A new and better FBS thread

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Originally Posted by ndsustudent

what is lakes going to do with his life once ndsu is fbs?

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Power 4, Power 4!

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Originally Posted by NDSUstudent

What is lakes going to do with his life once NDSU is FBS?

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Complain that we should have joined CUSA so we would be in P2 with UMich and UMinn now :rofl:

Meanwhile over at SS.com they want the Summit to kick NDSU out of the conference if we leave. Do they think ORU, Denver, KC, Omaha and UST really care and would want to lose NDSU over something like this? A school that they have a history with and either worked to add said school to the conference or in the case of ORU and KC brought them back with open arms.

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Originally Posted by NDSUstudent

Meanwhile over at SS.com they want the Summit to kick NDSU out of the conference if we leave. Do they think ORU, Denver, KC, Omaha and UST really care and would want to lose NDSU over something like this? A school that they have a history with and either worked to add said school to the conference or in the case of ORU and KC brought them back with open arms.

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NDSU in the MWC for FB might actually help elevate the Summit. If SDSU goes too, even more so, but I’m not holding my breath on that one

Not at all surprised by this and you knew it was coming

I find it interesting that ESPN hasn’t picked this up yet. They were all over NIU/Toledo right away if I recall correctly …

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

NDSU in the MWC for FB might actually help elevate the Summit. If SDSU goes too, even more so, but I’m not holding my breath on that one

Not at all surprised by this and you knew it was coming

I find it interesting that ESPN hasn’t picked this up yet. They were all over NIU/Toledo right away if I recall correctly …

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Yes, if anything it would elevate the league. It would really only hurt UND and maybe SDSU, although we could be building a bridge for SDSU to go FBS eventually if they want that.

USD has no FBS ambitions so I am not sure why they would care.

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Originally Posted by MWC

If NDSU gets an invitation that won't be well received by the MVFC..Nobody likes to lose members.

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This might be an exception... I mean, here are the records of MVFC schools against NDSU since 2011

South Dakota State 12-7 (four of NDSU wins were knocking SDSU out of the playoffs)
South Dakota 10-2
Indiana State 8-1
Murray State 2-0
Northern Iowa 13-1
North Dakota 4-1
Youngstown State 11-1
Illinois State 13-0
Southern Illinois 11-1
Missouri State 12-0
Western Illinois 9-0

The average margin of victory for NDSU is 3 TDs.

I'm sure that NDSU's administration hates that this got leaked. I really hope the MWC communicated directly with NDSU beforehand. And, yeah, you're right - there are lots of schools out west - personally, I'm surprised that conferences aren't going after UC Davis, for example.

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Originally Posted by MWC

If NDSU gets an invitation that won't be well received by the MVFC..Nobody likes to lose members. The current MW was not at all happy about being poached. I don't think that played any role in whether NIU and Toledo leaves or not. It has to make financial sense for the everybody to get somebody to move. NIU and Toledo want more money so they hard taking a stern stand in the negotiations. The MW is using the standard negotiation tactic of leaking out that there are other schools they can add if the can't make a deal.

The thing that helps the MW is they don't have to add anybody. They have 8 full members. They would like to get another football school to get an 8 game conference schedule so they will likely keep trying to do that. But they will not come off a very tough negotiating stance.

If they have indeed opened a possible window to FCS, there are lots of potential candidates.

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None better than NDSU. In fact, with NDSU's winning tradition the Bison are already better than most G5 schools. Does the Mountain West want to continue a downward slide after losing some of their best football members, or do they want to build on improving the conference? Look how NDSU was the driver for the MVFC in the FCS to relatively became like the SEC of the FBS.

This has gotta be the second best scenario for NDSU, after going MWC for all sports. Bison football would be so much more fun playing an MWC schedule and mostly FBS non-con games. Leaving the other dakota schools behind is the icing on the cake.

A glimpse at some football fiscals:
https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/ca0de22d

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Originally Posted by NDSUstudent

Meanwhile over at SS.com they want the Summit to kick NDSU out of the conference if we leave. Do they think ORU, Denver, KC, Omaha and UST really care and would want to lose NDSU over something like this? A school that they have a history with and either worked to add said school to the conference or in the case of ORU and KC brought them back with open arms.

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Silly message board fodder is silly. The MVFC would be just fine with 10 remaining members if NDSU left and no one in the Summit, including the schools whose football teams are in the MVFC, would want to be booting anyone given that stability is a constant concern for a conference at the Summit League's level and it's not like they have a line up of schools clamoring to get in.