Cole is going to start at some point before he's "supposed to". Might not be this year. Next definitely.
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Cole is going to start at some point before he's "supposed to". Might not be this year. Next definitely.
Not unless cam gets hurt or completely falls apart. Zero chance of an open competition if they keep winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
Cole in a Quincy role with the added threat of a pass will be nice though in 2023.
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Zero chance that there’s zero chance bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiouxHockeyBisonFo
Has anyone really seen enough of Cole Peyton to judge his ability? If you have, when was that? It's not rocket science, coaches have an obligation to everyone concerned to play the best players. There is no tenure in college football.
If Cole looks better in practice, he will be given a shot. If Quincy improves as a passer, he is obviously the more effective carrying the rock.
Entz strikes me as being very fair to his guys. If I were going to suspect a coach of leaning in one direction, it might Rohl pushing for the better ball carrier.
Cole is the one of the three that I could see in the NFL someday.
Calves bro... The calves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alsen
annndd here we go.
It's better than threads about quarterback play last spring.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
cp.... Qb 1.5Quote:
Originally Posted by el_chapo
He can run like a deer, so yes. Good way to to ease him into things like we did with QuincyQuote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
What prompted this new information?
nevermind.
Clicked here before the QP thread huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by OrygunBison
Are you attempting to re-write history? Good God!Quote:
Originally Posted by HerdBot
No but I didnt make myself very clear. Quincy started right away but the playbook was very limited. Less than 10 passes a game and more runs than passes. Most everything out of shotgun. Cole should at the very least be where Quincy was and Cam should continue to improve. But Cole is a great athlete and those calves lolQuote:
Originally Posted by CAS4127
Cole will start at some point this fall.
We will have a Jensen/Wentz situation here; you don't pull the starter/winner of the previous national championship game for a "better" 2nd stringer unless said starter/winner starts losing or gets himself injured or comes down with some strange tropical disease.
Q never lost a game but was replaced. Entz isn't as bullheaded as Bohl was when Wentz was on the bench. Also, I like Cam but he's no Brock Jensen.Quote:
Originally Posted by southcliffbison
Cam can't run like Brock, but he is much more advanced than Brock was at this stage of his career. I'm a huge Brock supporter, but I have to admit his first couple years playing were not great. It wasn't until his senior year that he really turned it on.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrygunBison
Pretty much what I was gonna say. Agree on this stage of their careers but I do think Cam is the better passer at this point of his career.Quote:
Originally Posted by TransAmBison
Or a Wentz/Stick situation where you pull a QB who won 8 games for the previous starter who went something like 12 calendar weeks since his last start.Quote:
Originally Posted by southcliffbison
All prior examples are invalid. Cole's calves are without comparison.
the defense Brock had was insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by TransAmBison
Certainly agree that Cam is the better passer of the two. However, Brock had "it" starting about the time that they played the goofs in 2011, still his soph year. As much as I like Cam, I don't see "it", although I can't place why? Not sure if Cole has "it" either but just commenting on intangibles being a part of the metric and the decision-making process of who's starting as a result.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtoutfitter
Marcus Williams/Heagle had 14 points in that game though.. love Brock. But Defense was our calling card those few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrygunBison
I throw Cole out there Game 1 vs Drake (or give Cam drives 1 & 2 maybe) and see what we got. We can always fall back on Cam.
I understand that your mancrush had a great game but go back and watch the replay of the entire game. That is when Brock started playing differently, more commandingly.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Put Cole out there early for meaningful reps and then pull him if he under performs? That sounds like an excellent way to get him mentally prepared. No way that could cause any sort of issues down the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Cole caught whoop the mvfc with one calf tied behind his back.
New development: Kevin will no longer complain about the QB power play being run 12 times a game.
3rd and Cole FTMFW!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
Can't wait until the first time he pulls that Trey Lance fake draw and nails someone on a slant off the left side.Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
Going to add a whole new nightmare for defenses on many fronts.
Like Rocky 2 he can train to throw right handed until he switched back to the southpaw in the fourth quarter... They'll never see it coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
Couldn’t disagree more. Cam has it in spades.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrygunBison
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Because the possession of it is a post hoc narrative construction it is impossible to have it before you’ve done anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by steelbison
Cole Payton IS the next Steve Young. Believe it!
Perfect comparison as Steve young sat behind a very less athletic Joe Montana for numerous years. The way Cam played last year may make Cole sit just like young and even Wentz had to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alsen
Have we really seen Cam have any "Joe Montana" like moments yet? Great game manager, doesn't make a lot of mistakes. That's awesome. But when shit hits the fan can get us out of it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowgoose
If the answer isn't a definitive yes then it should be an open competition all season.
Missouri State game? We were dead in the water offensively until he came in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
Never heard of them bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by BisManBison
He also led a TD drive against JMU right after they took the lead to get momentum back.Quote:
Originally Posted by BisManBison
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Never heard of them, bro......Quote:
Originally Posted by gavin2126