I would be happy/grateful for whichever one you can help us land in :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MWC
Both would be nice homes imo. I am not very optimistic the PAC will glance our way, and do think MW has room to add a few more.
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I would be happy/grateful for whichever one you can help us land in :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MWC
Both would be nice homes imo. I am not very optimistic the PAC will glance our way, and do think MW has room to add a few more.
If ndsu and sdsu are subtracted from the mvfc and added to cusa, cusa blows the mvfc away.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
Your arguement mistakenly includes ndsu/sdsu in the value of the mvfc to ndsu and sdsu.
In fact cusa jumps the mac as is. Cusa goes to 59.2 with the addition of sdsu and ndsu right now. Its just under the current mwc with both boise and unlv in the top 40.
Mac adding ndsu/sdsu jumps to a mean of 60.4.
The mac is 57.96. Removing toledo and niu makes the mac 56.48. Adding ndsu and sdsu in place of toledo and niu improves upon the mac to 59.54.
Mwc (as is today) adding ndsu/sdsu jumps to a mean of 63.87, jumping the mwc over the sunbelt and american.
Removing ndsu and sdsu drops the mvfc to 50.92.
Ndsu and sdsu are worth 74.84 averaged together right now. Toledo and NIU are worth 65.35 averaged together. UTEP is worth 51.4. Nebraska is worth 74.83, .01 less than Ndsu/sdsu averaged.
Ndsu and sdsu added to every conference in D1 would improve its sagarin strength, except b12, big10, and sec.
Adding ndsu/sdsu is a net gain for the ACC. A functioning power conference. These G5 conferences are fucking idiots.
The ACC is 74.05, with ndsu/sdsu it increases in strength to a 74.13. Minor, but an addition.
Any G5 conference that doesn't see the metric fuckton of football strength that the dakota states weild is idiotic. It is akin to saying as a G5 you dont want a program like syracuse, arizona state, texas tech, nebraska etc to join your conference for football only. Obviously they do and would. Those are the comparable football programs on the field. The strength of your league generates the ability to make the playoff. Making the playoff generates interest and viewers in your conferences games. All of this is where the money is. Weak leagues will never have a champion that makes the playoff. If you want money build a league that can make the playoff. Inviting utep is how you damn your champion to never making the playoff.
Toledo and niu are idiotic football only adds for the mwc. They are substantially worse football programs than ndsu/sdsu. People watch good football. The more good football is elevated the larger the audiences. Good football = $$$$$$$.
Adding utep was dumb, adding niu and toledo is dumb.
Looking at the on field performance data makes me very frustrated regarding this topic lol
Been trying to explain this to him for years. You can’t say “the MVFC is better for us than CUSA because it’s stronger at the top”. WE ARE the fuckin top lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Twentysix
Exactly!
And here's the ironic twist...
FCS becomes BETTER once the _DSUs are gone. Our dominance has totally ruined the FCS playoff allure. Everyone is sick of "those damned Dakota teams" winning everything every year. Hell, the FCS should be willing to fund our transitions just to get rid of us!
I wish conferences used the same criteria you do above and based additions on competitive strength. All the activity of the past several cycles suggests they don’t and care more about location, markets, and media $. If a media partner tells the conferences they will pay them more per school to add us, then we have a chance. It always comes down to things like travel and money. Schools like Kennesaw obviously don’t belong in FBS but supposedly add the “Atlanta market” according to CUSA. They hardly give two shits about how many games they won or lost in FCS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Twentysix
This is the based perspective. It’s time to give the little basketball school teacher colleges their subdivision back. Been saying it since 2019.Quote:
Originally Posted by NI4NI
FCS is an awesome level for them. Ho hum sweatervest-wearing “golly gee shucks hope the ol’ ball coach can put together a winning season” subdivision. No place for a high G5 program.
Perfectly stated and well done. However, logic doesnt seem to be a part of the equation any longer. I have it on pretty good authority that the "warning" from Sankey and the SEC to not add additional FCS schools was very persuasive/determinative to the MWC. After that discussion from their overlords, the conversation with SDSU/NDSU changed significantly with Sankey's directive being cited.Quote:
Originally Posted by Twentysix
Well that sucks donkey balls! I was afraid that might be a factor based on media reporter rumors, but wasn't certain. It seems you have a confirmed source.Quote:
Originally Posted by BisonJD
Does college football have an anti-trust exemption? Since this is all apparently 'business' now with 'employees', how can industry incumbents work together (collude) to reduce competition? Seems like a clear case to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by BisonJD