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isn't west virginny in the big 13?

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

they "think" they are elitist which is even worse

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No. They really don't.

If he came from Columbia or NYU... sure. But he didn't. He came from a New York public school on Long Island.

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Originally Posted by ByeSonBusiness

No. They really don't.

If he came from Columbia or NYU... sure. But he didn't. He came from a New York public school on Long Island.

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Chapo rails against "elitism" in the same breath that he's calling people from western north dakota hillbillies lol

Cannot make it up

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

Chapo rails against "elitism" in the same breath that he's calling people from western north dakota hillbillies lol

Cannot make it up

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Chapo could make good money as a Facebook bot :)

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Originally Posted by TAILG8R

Chapo could make good money as a Facebook bot :)

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the thing about artificial intelligence is that it's intelligent

its right in the name bro

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

I know you western nodakers don't get out much. but these things called airplanes. they go 550mph. costs the same to fly San Diego to Wyoming as San Diego to Fargo

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fucking geography. amazing isn't it. college sports common sense 101.

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Originally Posted by Kevin

the thing about artificial intelligence is that it's intelligent

its right in the name bro

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didn't having Kevin turning heel in my Bisonville 2022 Bingo Card....

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

didn't having Kevin turning heel in my Bisonville 2022 Bingo Card....

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do u think you're smarter than skynet lakes?

skynet would have had us in the MW by now.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

I know you western nodakers don't get out much. but these things called airplanes. they go 550mph. costs the same to fly San Diego to Wyoming as San Diego to Fargo

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Costs the same except when it doesn't. Especially when it's a charter. Time and fuel, Chapo, time and fuel.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

orrr. we get someone with some balls and not an east coast elitist softie.

HES COASTIN & AINT GONNA UPSET HIS APPLE CART...

COOK should bring in his own people & get FBS moving here at NDSU. Alot of people pushed to get Cook this job because he has a Big 12 guy, time to pay it off.

151-12 in last 11 years & 9 titles ....and the fcs is watered down badly at this point.

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So you're saying we win too much?

Would it make you happier if we started losing games like Arizona does?
They are "big time", but lose games to our lesser FCS brethren.

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

So you're saying we win too much?

Would it make you happier if we started losing games like Arizona does?
They are "big time", but lose games to our lesser FCS brethren.

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Yes, we win too much. Who's saying we have to have a W/L like Arizona? I'd settle for Alabama's :)

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

Yes, we win too much. Who's saying we have to have a W/L like Arizona? I'd settle for Alabama's :)

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I'd rather win like this in the FBS

sounds like kolpack & izzo are finally listening to me and banging the drum for ndsu to fbs when talking IPF today on air.

let's get this done Dr Cook

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

sounds like kolpack & izzo are finally listening to me and banging the drum for ndsu to fbs when talking IPF today on air.

let's get this done Dr Cook

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All your years of hard work are starting to pay off.

They’re dreaming of media rights to the Idaho potato bowl.

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Originally Posted by Hammersmith

If truthful, he must be getting a little creative with the criteria.

Possibilities:
Not counting Texas and Oklahoma because they're moving to the SEC.
Only counting the Big XII wrestling schools and not the whole Big XII.
Using subsidy as a percentage of the athletic budget in some cases, but as an absolute value in others.

The go to source was always USA Today, but that's now behind a paywall.

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Here's the KnightNewhouse data: https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/8d0136cf

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TOTAL INSTITUTIONAL/GOVERNMENT SUPPORT AND STUDENT FEES
Combination of Institutional/Government Support and Student Fees.

I excluded Texas and Oklahoma because they are $0.00 subsidy (and the web tools wouldn't chart that many schools).

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Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka

Here's the KnightNewhouse data: https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/8d0136cf

Graph data is:
TOTAL INSTITUTIONAL/GOVERNMENT SUPPORT AND STUDENT FEES
Combination of Institutional/Government Support and Student Fees.

I excluded Texas and Oklahoma because they are $0.00 subsidy (and the web tools wouldn't chart that many schools).

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Did you happen to compare the revenues of NDSU and und? UND takes over 11M from the ND taxpayer SU is 4M -- Students contribute 3.3M at und vs .98 from SU.

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Originally Posted by Bison Dan

Did you happen to compare the revenues of NDSU and und? UND takes over 11M from the ND taxpayer SU is 4M -- Students contribute 3.3M at und vs .98 from SU.

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The conversation was NDSU in comparison to its conference rivals and Bresciani's claim that NDSU was lowest in each conference (proven otherwise).

Feel free to use that same site and make your comparison graph.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

sounds like kolpack & izzo are finally listening to me and banging the drum for ndsu to fbs when talking IPF today on air.

let's get this done Dr Cook

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If you're talking about HOT MIC, Izzo wasn't even on air and a direct quote from Kolpack when asked if he thinks it'll happen: "No, we are too far north." LOL.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

sounds like kolpack & izzo are finally listening to me and banging the drum for ndsu to fbs when talking IPF today on air.

let's get this done Dr Cook

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Dude you cant even get Your lies straight so please dont try to piggy back on statements that werent made by other people.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

They’re dreaming of media rights to the Idaho potato bowl.

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Doesn't ESPN own rights to all of the bowl games with maybe an exception or two for the big bowls traditionally held on Jan 1st?

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead

Doesn't ESPN own rights to all of the bowl games with maybe an exception or two for the big bowls traditionally held on Jan 1st?

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I thought we were here just to make shit up.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

I thought we were here just to make shit up.

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You could be an official!

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Originally Posted by Bison Dan

Did you happen to compare the revenues of NDSU and und? UND takes over 11M from the ND taxpayer SU is 4M -- Students contribute 3.3M at und vs .98 from SU.

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11 Million to 4 Million. Good news Holmberg gone.


Students contribute less at SU than UND? Does that mean tuition is lower at SU. That's a good thing yes no.

Heard SU gets 40 million a year for Ag Research. Must be needed for World Class Research. What do other ND Colleges get for Research?

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Originally Posted by PickedBess

11 Million to 4 Million. Good news Holmberg gone.

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The $4M number is 2021. It was between $6 and $8M the prior four years.
https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/e7345ae6

Are UND student fees higher? Yes.
Do they have 20 home hockey game dates also (that NDSU does not)? Yes.

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Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka

The $4M number is 2021. It was between $6 and $8M the prior four years.
https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/e7345ae6

Are UND student fees higher? Yes.
Do they have 20 home hockey game dates also (that NDSU does not)? Yes.

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Don't UND students have to pay separately for hockey tickets?

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Originally Posted by taper

Don't UND students have to pay separately for hockey tickets?

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Not sure how they're doing that now.
I thought lower bowl student section was reserved (pay for) seats but upper deck were still GA and no cost with student ID.

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Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka

Not sure how they're doing that now.
I thought lower bowl student section was reserved (pay for) seats but upper deck were still GA and no cost with student ID.

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https://www.theralph.com/events/student-tickets

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Originally Posted by GCWaters

https://www.theralph.com/events/student-tickets

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Interesting. The whole student section. There must be enough demand they can put a surcharge price on them above other fees.

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Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka

Interesting. The whole student section. There must be enough demand they can put a surcharge price on them above other fees.

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Wow. You really are as bad as Lakes. Absolutely no possibility of saying UND's fees are comparable to NDSU's. None. Hockey tickets alone are almost the entire NDSU athletics fees for that semester.

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Originally Posted by taper

Wow. You really are as bad as Lakes. Absolutely no possibility of saying UND's fees are comparable to NDSU's. None. Hockey tickets alone are almost the entire NDSU athletics fees for that semester.

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Sicatoka is trying to defend the undefendable.

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Originally Posted by taper

Absolutely no possibility of saying UND's fees are comparable to NDSU's.

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Where'd I say 'comparable'?

What I did say was: Are UND student fees higher? Yes.

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Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka

Where'd I say 'comparable'?

What I did say was: Are UND student fees higher? Yes.

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Are und professor's sexual preferences younger? Yes.

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Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka

Interesting. The whole student section. There must be enough demand they can put a surcharge price on them above other fees.

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My best friend graduated from UND in 2014. If I remember right, if they got season tickets they ended up paying like $5/game back then. I think they got lower bowl tickets one night, then upper bowl the next. If the demand is there, I don't have a real problem with that. UND had 23 exhibition/regular season home games this year. For $166, that works out to like $7/game.

The*Mountain*West*signed a six-year, $270 million national TV deal last time around.

Mountain West schools get $2.5 mil per team for Big Dance Money.

NDSU instantly adds $6-7 million joining day 1.

I am not sure about your numbers there.. CBS and Fox pay 45 million a year to the MW which is then distributed to the schools. The conference takes some to fund operations, Boise gets a larger share and Hawaii gets a smaller cut. There are 3rd tier tv rights available for games not picked up by CBS or Fox.

The basketball credits go to the conference who splits them evenly to the 11 basketball schools but the payout is over a 6 year period. That does tend to work out to 2.5 million total in a 1 bid league. The MW usually gets 2 in.

All of this doesn't add up to your 6-7 million per team per year assertion. The amount is less than you think..It is also no where near enough. Like all G5 conferences budgets are tight..

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Originally Posted by MWC

I am not sure about your numbers there.. CBS and Fox pay 45 million a year to the MW which is then distributed to the schools. The conference takes some to fund operations, Boise gets a larger share and Hawaii gets a smaller cut. There are 3rd tier tv rights available for games not picked up by CBS or Fox.

The basketball credits go to the conference who splits them evenly to the 11 basketball schools but the payout is over a 6 year period. That does tend to work out to 2.5 million total in a 1 bid league. The MW usually gets 2 in.

All of this doesn't add up to your 6-7 million per team per year assertion. The amount is less than you think..It is also no where near enough. Like all G5 conferences budgets are tight..

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Yep, P5 is where the real money is. MWC though is probably one of the best in terms of G5 conference financials.

CUSA recently filed to seal court records regarding their financial settlement with the departing schools, on the basis it could irreparably harm them, and cause their new members not to join. It's rumored cusa financials are so bad member schools are going to have to pay in each year to keep the conference alive and pay debts, rather than receiving any payout. They have bupkiss for a television deal.

FBS is not an automatic financial win, and most bowl payouts are deceptive too, in terms of what the school takes home after expenses.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

The*Mountain*West*signed a six-year, $270 million national TV deal last time around.

Mountain West schools get $2.5 mil per team for Big Dance Money.

NDSU instantly adds $6-7 million joining day 1.

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The MWC basketball payout is about 200,000/school. So you know, you’re only off by a factor of 10.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

The*Mountain*West*signed a six-year, $270 million national TV deal last time around.

Mountain West schools get $2.5 mil per team for Big Dance Money.

NDSU instantly adds $6-7 million joining day 1.

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The MWC basketball payout is about 200,000/school. So you know, you’re only off by a factor of 10.

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Originally Posted by NDSU_grad

The MWC basketball payout is about 200,000/school. So you know, you’re only off by a factor of 10.

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You can say that again!