Re: A new and better FBS thread
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NDSUstudent
AAC taking Texas State would make things interesting, would put the MWC and PAC fighting over even more of the same limited FBS options.
None of these FBS programs being considered have very good football, which could help us potentially. UTEP for example gets a lot of hype but they haven't done anything in football for decades. NMSU is even worse, they would be a mid FCS program.
The whole thing is a joke. Why would NIU and Toledo leave the MAC for the depleted Mountain West who has no TV contract and half the good teams left? Plus for Toledo (Eastern Time Zone) all the road games will be 2 to 3 timezone away
Both Conferences are desperate and think they are bigger than they are. The Pac 12 was pretty arrogant thinking Memphis will leave a much more stable AAC and better conference. Now they are so desperate they are looking at UCONN
Both the MW and Pac12 have 7 teams with no additions and it's diluted. Both are at risk of collapsing.
What happens in a few years when the PAC gets a better TV deal than the MW? How many teams will jump to the PAC? Or what if Washington State or Oregon State get a P4 offer?
You dont get a good TV deal by staying small and hoarding the money. You need a conference of 12-14 teams. Sorry but UNLV isn't a big deal. If they were, the MW would have a huge TV deal already. UNLV has the worst TV ratings in the conference
The only teams that are realistic are Texas State, New Mexico State, and UTEP. So you have 2 conferences with 7 teams fighting over 3 teams. So you end up with 2 bad conferences
If that happens, CUSA will be down to 9 teams and Sam Houston or Jacksonville State want to will jump to the Sunbelt
So they could be down to 8 or less
But if I'm the AAC, I'm going to add those teams first to screw over the PAC12 for trying to poach my top teams
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Originally Posted by
HerdBot
The whole thing is a joke. Why would NIU and Toledo leave the MAC for the depleted Mountain West who has no TV contract and half the good teams left? Plus for Toledo (Eastern Time Zone) all the road games will be 2 to 3 timezone away
Both Conferences are desperate and think they are bigger than they are. The Pac 12 was pretty arrogant thinking Memphis will leave a much more stable AAC and better conference. Now they are so desperate they are looking at UCONN
Both the MW and Pac12 have 7 teams with no additions and it's diluted. Both are at risk of collapsing.
What happens in a few years when the PAC gets a better TV deal than the MW? How many teams will jump to the PAC? Or what if Washington State or Oregon State get a P4 offer?
You dont get a good TV deal by staying small and hoarding the money. You need a conference of 12-14 teams. Sorry but UNLV isn't a big deal. If they were, the MW would have a huge TV deal already. UNLV has the worst TV ratings in the conference
The only teams that are realistic are Texas State, New Mexico State, and UTEP. So you have 2 conferences with 7 teams fighting over 3 teams. So you end up with 2 bad conferences
If that happens, CUSA will be down to 9 teams and Sam Houston or Jacksonville State want to will jump to the Sunbelt
So they could be down to 8 or less
But if I'm the AAC, I'm going to add those teams first to screw over the PAC12 for trying to poach my top teams
Toledo @ hawaii is 5 timezones. A 7pm hawaii game would start at midnight in toledo and finish at 3-4am lol. Idk if hawaii plays night games though.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
This whole round of shuffling is feeling slightly insane.
All started with USC and UCLA to B1G, which was a geographic misfit, but done for media money. The $ at that level are huge.
Then PAC imploded, and we had wierdness like Calford buying their way into the ACC out of desperation.
We got to the PAC rebuild, and the moves to take top of MW and try to poach top of AAC were somewhat expected.
But now unless they have some master plan we can't see, its looking like the MW has drunk the same koolaid and gone batshit crazy. Reaching all the way to NIU and Toledo is nothing more than trying to skim the top couple MAC teams.
Not sure what this means next, maybe the top SBC teams are targets too.
Feels like everyone is racing now to grab as much cream off the top as they can, and leave the duds behind.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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BigHorns
This whole round of shuffling is feeling slightly insane.
All started with USC and UCLA to B1G, which was a geographic misfit, but done for media money. The $ at that level are huge.
Then PAC imploded, and we had wierdness like Calford buying their way into the ACC out of desperation.
We got to the PAC rebuild, and the moves to take top of MW and try to poach top of AAC were somewhat expected.
But now unless they have some master plan we can't see, its looking like the MW has drunk the same koolaid and gone batshit crazy. Reaching all the way to NIU and Toledo is nothing more than trying to skim the top couple MAC teams.
Not sure what this means next, maybe the top SBC teams are targets too.
Feels like everyone is racing now to grab as much cream off the top as they can, and leave the duds behind.
A) I don’t believe it
B) If it actually did happen I’m guessing it was a consultant doing some out of the box thinking and the MW schools said “ahh what the hell let’s give it a shot”. This is probably most likely scenario IMO. Just a new consultant doing due diligence and peeking under every rock before exploring less desirable options.
C) If it is part of a serious plan, either these schools will say no or they will fall for a one-time payout and be doomed to terrible travel forever and they can kiss goodbye to the MAC for Olympics. My guess is they’ll say no, SBC schools will be next and they’ll say no (especially to a GoR or any sort of written commitment). And the MW will be back in the same boat as the PAC. Maybe more money, but travel and the thought of excluding yourself from a future ACC or AAC invite is a dealbreaker for schools outside their geographic footprint to the east.
Literally makes 0 sense to me but that’s fine I guess. The good news is they’re apparently desperate and now apparently the big three excuses as to why we can’t get an invite (location, media market, football only invite) are all thrown out the window.
Hell, maybe the mac gets nervous and passive aggressive and talks to us and SDSU as a way to strengthen their western flank and also take options off the table for MW.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
Be careful guys. You're distracting the Bison defense.
Bahahahaha.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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HerdBot
Both Conferences are desperate and think they are bigger than they are.
When they figure that out, after rejection after rejection, they'll end up together in the end is still my guess.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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The_Sicatoka
When they figure that out, after rejection after rejection, they'll end up together in the end is still my guess.
They have 2 years, so you could be right. Cooler heads may eventually prevail. With that said, lots of bruised egos right now; just have to hope they stay mad at each other. :)
Re: A new and better FBS thread
Guano Loco Scenario:
- Have the MWC snag four full from MAC (NIU, Tol, and 2 of 3 of Buff/Kent/Ohio)
- MAC backfills with a western pod of "Dakota Four"
No crazier than Toledo and NIU as FB only to MWC.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Originally Posted by
The_Sicatoka
Guano Loco Scenario:
- Have the MWC snag four full from MAC (NIU, Tol, and 2 of 3 of Buff/Kent/Ohio)
- MAC backfills with a western pod of "Dakota Four"
No crazier than Toledo and NIU as FB only to MWC.
A month ago everyone would have called that insane.
Now, who knows? Its like the weird kids with money are running around town on prom night asking out all the hottest chicks and seeing who says yes. Eventually they work their way down to the cute girls next door.
May be a few more crazy weeks ahead.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Originally Posted by
BigHorns
A month ago everyone would have called that insane.
Now, who knows? Its like the weird kids with money are running around town on prom night asking out all the hottest chicks and seeing who says yes. Eventually they work their way down to the cute girls next door.
May be a few more crazy weeks ahead.
That only works until the normal kids with money get tired of the weird kids hitting on the cute girls and put the weird kids back in their place.
