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Originally Posted by scottietohottie

53 to 21. Still 56 seconds left in the first half! Tar heels taking the dukey.

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Final score 70-50. Crazy, maybe it was preseason basketball?

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Originally Posted by TAILG8R

Talked with someone connected to the university in athletics. Definitely made it sound like internally the narrative is still “it’s not the right time”


WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Connected like a night janitor, or closer to the top?

Sad, if true. This may be our last chance for a while.
MW shakeup is the opening we needed.

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

Final score 70-50. Crazy, maybe it was preseason basketball?

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Wasn't too long ago we were beating JMU in FCS.
They are in a completely different spot from NDSU since then. In a really good way for them.

Us, not so much

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

Connected like a night janitor, or closer to the top?

Sad, if true. This may be our last chance for a while.
MW shakeup is the opening we needed.

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Connected like has daily convos with dept heads.


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Good article

https://thednvr.com/why-colorado-sta...tes-should-be/

It's becoming ever clearer that the NDSU leadership is fine with the football program staying put in FCS, winning consistently against East Bugwhistle Poly and Texas U Haventeverheardov.

But standing still is not really standing still when FCS is deteriorating quickly.

Yes, I understand that it takes money to move up, and even apart from that there will be difficult fights with Bismarck.

However, not publicly advocating for Mountain West membership means it won't happen. The current members of the MWC aren't going to do our work for us. They aren't going to develop a case for admitting the Bison, absent interest and information from NDSU. How likely is it that the MWC will pick a team that doesn't have enough balls to even say publicly "We want to join you, and here's what NDSU would bring to the conference." (And if we don't have a strong list of what we'd bring, start putting one together.)

I'd lead with NDSU football having a record of success, a dedicated regional fanbase, and national interest cultivated through a decade-long championship run featured in multiple national broadcasts each year.

In contrast, Sacramento State is involving community and state leaders in their efforts. The MWC won't have to imagine what Sac State brings. They won't have to compile basic information for themselves. Who would you pick? The school that says, "Here's what we can do" or the school standing outside the door that says "Put together the information yourself. We've got a game against East Bugwhistle coming up. And you know what? We're going to dominate them."

Yesterday, Dom mentioned Youngstown State's current woes and wondered if Jim Tressel-era fans could have ever imagined what would happen to their powerhouse program.

I think there might be a similar question lurking for Bison fans and NDSU administrators in another decade or so when 5,800 show up to the Fargodome and we're told it's a pretty good crowd for a Saturday*.

(*Apologies to Billy Joel)

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Originally Posted by TAILG8R

Connected like has daily convos with dept heads.


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If all the AAC schools stay out east, which seems pretty plausible, the PAC will decimate the MWC, leaving Nevada, Wyoming, New Mexico, Hawaii, and San Jose State

At that point it’s easy to think that everyone looks for an exit and the MWC ‘dies’

I would guess that’s what they are thinking in terms of immediate outcomes of this cycle

But as we are seeing with the PAC, it is not that easy to kill a conference …

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Originally Posted by SoCalBison

It's becoming ever clearer that the NDSU leadership is fine with the football program staying put in FCS, winning consistently against East Bugwhistle Poly and Texas U Haventeverheardov.

But standing still is not really standing still when FCS is deteriorating quickly.

Yes, I understand that it takes money to move up, and even apart from that there will be difficult fights with Bismarck.

However, not publicly advocating for Mountain West membership means it won't happen. The current members of the MWC aren't going to do our work for us. They aren't going to develop a case for admitting the Bison, absent interest and information from NDSU. How likely is it that the MWC will pick a team that doesn't have enough balls to even say publicly "We want to join you, and here's what NDSU would bring to the conference." (And if we don't have a strong list of what we'd bring, start putting one together.)

I'd lead with NDSU football having a record of success, a dedicated regional fanbase, and national interest cultivated through a decade-long championship run featured in multiple national broadcasts each year.

In contrast, Sacramento State is involving community and state leaders in their efforts. The MWC won't have to imagine what Sac State brings. They won't have to compile basic information for themselves. Who would you pick? The school that says, "Here's what we can do" or the school standing outside the door that says "Put together the information yourself. We've got a game against East Bugwhistle coming up. And you know what? We're going to dominate them."

Yesterday, Dom mentioned Youngstown State's current woes and wondered if Jim Tressel-era fans could have ever imagined what would happen to their powerhouse program.

I think there might be a similar question lurking for Bison fans and NDSU administrators in another decade or so when 5,800 show up to the Fargodome and we're told it's a pretty good crowd for a Saturday*.

(*Apologies to Billy Joel)

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Are any teams (FCS or FBS) actively lobbying for an MWC invite?

One article I read recently put it like this: A program won't get a conference invite unless they've already accepted the non-existent invitation.

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Originally Posted by KSBisonFan

One article I read recently put it like this: A program won't get a conference invite unless they've already accepted the non-existent invitation.

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This makes sense. Why would a FBS conference extend an invite to any school if there's any chance that said school may decline the offer. It'd be like asking an ugly girl to dance and being shot down.