Re: A new and better FBS thread
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I very much guess that they don’t, USF and FAU, Temple, ECU, Charlotte, UAB, etc. are going to choke on Wyoming, USU, etc. Hell I think they probably choke on Air Force too. All the travel of the ACC/B10, without the tv revenue.
Similar to the PAC savior schools, AFA would be leaving the MW to try to get away from those schools, so what benefit is there for them?
I would guess invitations go out this FY for schools to join MW in fall 2026. What happened to the PAC has got to be weighing on the minds of Nevarez and the remaining MW presidents. Either CUSA schools or FCS. Clock is ticking…
The MW does not have to do anything for 2 years. They can also get an additional 2 years with a waiver from the NCAA like the Pac 2 got. Lots of things can shake out all over the country by 2028. The clock is ticking very very very slowly. Maybe the Belt poaches some AAC schools. Maybe CUSA poaches some MW schools. Nothing has to make sense anymore..
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The MW does not have to do anything for 2 years. They can also get an additional 2 years with a waiver from the NCAA like the Pac 2 got. Lots of things can shake out all over the country by 2028. The clock is ticking very very very slowly. Maybe the Belt poaches some AAC schools. Maybe CUSA poaches some MW schools. Nothing has to make sense anymore..
Sure, they can get a waiver like the PAC did. Knowingly following in the PACs footsteps seems like a great idea. OSU and WSU seem like they’ve been having a lot of fun over the last two years lol.
That’s my point. When you’re in a position of control you can afford to wait. When you’re not, you can’t. You either pull a plan together for the conference moving forward, or schools are going to make other plans. Quickly.
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You either pull a plan together for the conference moving forward, or schools are going to make other plans. Quickly.
Making rash decisions is how you end up like CUSA instead of the Sun Belt.
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Making rash decisions is how you end up like CUSA instead of the Sun Belt.
What rash decision put CUSA in their current position? Not having a plan and getting outmaneuvered while they sat with their hands in their pockets is what got CUSA to where they currently are. Everything since has been an exercise in survival.
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I think UNLV (Pac) and AFA (AAC) will be gone soon. The leftovers would be at 6 football schools but only 5 full time members. They have 4 years to figure something out. The departing schools will still be here until fall of 26. Whatever is left can get a 2 year grace period to rebuild to 8 if they choose. They will have pretty much milked the poaching and exit fees dry by then. But.....
Would any school want to join that? Would FCS schools want to pay the 5 million, plus the additional costs to join that? NMSU and UTEP are in a far more stable situation. Why would they give that up for a dead man walking conference?
There can't be two G5 level conferences in the West. It just doesn't work.
In my mind, this is also what I'm thinking. And exactly what helps out XDSU's in getting invites, potentially. Yes, XDSU's will want it; but you are also right that folks from other FBS probably don't.
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Sure, they can get a waiver like the PAC did. Knowingly following in the PACs footsteps seems like a great idea. OSU and WSU seem like they’ve been having a lot of fun over the last two years lol.
That’s my point. When you’re in a position of control you can afford to wait. When you’re not, you can’t. You either pull a plan together for the conference moving forward, or schools are going to make other plans. Quickly.
To that end I would agree. The MW now has the unenviable task of trying to negotiate a new media deal for 26/27 and beyond. That is going to be a slog. With the now G5 Pac offering late night west coast and mountain time slots, the MW looks far less inviting. It will be pretty much impossible to get any bump from what the MW gets now. Sac State and Davis share a really big market but I am not sure they move the needle. The Montanas and the Dakotas have rabid fans that fill their stadiums, neither has large media markets. NMSU and UTEP don't move the needle. I am not sure what draw the MW has to get much. However, it would behoove them to figure out which schools might help with their pitch quickly.
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To that end I would agree. The MW now has the unenviable task of trying to negotiate a new media deal for 26/27 and beyond. That is going to be a slog. With the now G5 Pac offering late night west coast and mountain time slots, the MW looks far less inviting. It will be pretty much impossible to get any bump from what the MW gets now. Sac State and Davis share a really big market but I am not sure they move the needle. The Montanas and the Dakotas have rabid fans that fill their stadiums, neither has large media markets. NMSU and UTEP don't move the needle. I am not sure what draw the MW has to get much. However, it would behoove them to figure out which schools might help with their pitch quickly.
I would point out the media markets for Sioux Falls, SD and Fargo, ND are bigger than Missoula or Bozeman. (yes, still nothing compared to major metro areas.....) Granted, all are state and/or land grant universities, so all 4 have wide appeal in their states.
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There is no way in hell the MWC takes years to hand out invites. lol.
We will know who is joining the MWC before the football season is over.
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There is another path. The Pac and the AAC take at least 9 MW schools between them who would then vote to dissolve the conference. No exit fees, no poaching fees.. No MWC
I doubt the AAC will look beyond Air Force and UNLV, they can always look to the Sun Belt. JMU and/or Texas State would get a look long before the remaining MWC schools. CUSA may be the only option for the remaining if they want to leave.
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No I am not. If they want AFA badly enough, and I think they do, it may well have to come as a package deal with the other Rocky Mountain schools. Or maybe not. If the MW tries to rebuild it will be a few years before invitations go out. The schools leaving aren't going until 2026.
Why would AFA care enough to force the AAC to take schools the league isn't interested in? AFA has been flirting with the AAC when it was still the Big East. The key now is that CSU is gone, and Army has joined Navy in the AAC. The AAC is the safest place AFA can be in the new world of college football.
