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Re: 2021 Verbal: Cole Payton
Was talking to someone in frisco saturday night who believes that ALL 3 QB's are staying & Coaches will allow ALL 3 QB's to audition for starting job. I found that interesting & might actually benefit Cole Payton to be honest.
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Originally Posted by
El_Chapo
Kevin. I spent an hour w coles bro/family in hot tub after game.. pm me for info. your name & this thread was brought up without provocation.... hmmmmm
Chapo, grandmas, and hot tubs... a formula as tried and true as spaghetti, meatballs, and parmesian.
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El_Chapo
Was talking to someone in frisco saturday night who believes that ALL 3 QB's are staying & Coaches will allow ALL 3 QB's to audition for starting job. I found that interesting & might actually benefit Cole Payton to be honest.
Duh. Cole will be a Redshirt Freshman next year. When we signed him, I'm sure he anticipated sitting a few years behind Trey Lance.
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HerdBot
Duh. Cole will be a Redshirt Freshman next year. When we signed him, I'm sure he anticipated sitting a few years behind Trey Lance.
When he signed Trey had already began his NFL prep. When he committed (May 2020) that wasn't a for sure thing but IIRC at that time the draft buzz around Trey and him leaving after the 2020 fall season that never happened was already very string.
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Originally Posted by
Professor Chaos
When he signed Trey had already began his NFL prep. When he committed (May 2020) that wasn't a for sure thing but IIRC at that time the draft buzz around Trey and him leaving after the 2020 fall season that never happened was already very string.
Even if we ignore the Lance thing, he knew there was a guy here who was pretty highly recruited as well.
Then again, look at how FBS guys are doing things these days....oh...I didn't beat out the starter? Guess I'll transfer
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I'm definitely spooked that CP will leave. Gosh I hope not.
I am STOKED that QP is staying, but it would have made things alot less stressful in regards to keeping CP.
If CP doesnt get meaningful playing time this fall, I would look out for K-State to poach him. they just got Adrian Martinez for his least year in the transfer portal... after that?? Gotta imagine CP's phone has been ringing
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Anyone else's heart drop through the floor when they saw this thread trending?
Just me?
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Minimum8Pete
I'm definitely spooked that CP will leave. Gosh I hope not.
I am STOKED that QP is staying, but it would have made things alot less stressful in regards to keeping CP.
If CP doesnt get meaningful playing time this fall, I would look out for K-State to poach him. they just got Adrian Martinez for his least year in the transfer portal... after that?? Gotta imagine CP's phone has been ringing
Definitely a big concern now with the transfer portal. Maintaining a pipeline at QB is even more difficult.
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Somebody open the checkbook and get CP a killer NIL deal lol, we cant lose this kid
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El_Chapo
he beat Kansas & Montana St so shut your whore mouth.....
dammit now I gotta go find coles grandma
Because Kansas is a SUPER POWER and Montana State has really been proven a tough program to beat….
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Broseed will pay in safemoon.
Also lakes chilling with grandmas in the hot tub should be made into a bville NFT.
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Originally Posted by
El_Chapo
Kevin. I spent an hour w coles bro/family in hot tub after game.. pm me for info. your name & this thread was brought up without provocation.... hmmmmm
Lakes you can admit it now….you were just in the hot tub with Cole’s Grandma….not his bro/family.
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2011BisonAlumni
Lakes you can admit it now….you were just in the hot tub with Cole’s Grandma….not his bro/family.
LOL didn't see Cole's Grandma.... Mom/little brother.
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Re: 2021 Verbal: Cole Payton
I honestly figured QP would transfer to one of the FCS schools in Illinois (being from the Chicago area). Could have saw him starting at ISU-R, WIU, or Eastern Illinois next season. Which would have led Cole Payton into taking his reps as the running QB that Quincy had been playing the last half of the season. I was perfectly fine with this outcome. For all three of them to be back is great. Something has to give in my mind. All three are too competitive and too talented to sit a watch.
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Originally Posted by
tolnabison
I honestly figured QP would transfer to one of the FCS schools in Illinois (being from the Chicago area). Could have saw him starting at ISU-R, WIU, or Eastern Illinois next season. Which would have led Cole Payton into taking his reps as the running QB that Quincy had been playing the last half of the season. I was perfectly fine with this outcome. For all three of them to be back is great. Something has to give in my mind. All three are too competitive and too talented to sit a watch.
Maybe they all have high character and want to play their part in helping their school win another championship?
QP could transfer to Illy State, but then he'd be the qb at Illy State. I'd rather have 5-10 snaps per game at NDSU.
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Originally Posted by
NDSU92
Maybe they all have high character and want to play their part in helping their school win another championship?
QP could transfer to Illy State, but then he'd be the qb at Illy State. I'd rather have 5-10 snaps per game at NDSU.
Judging someone's character? Time out here. So you are saying that a player has a bad character if they want to improve their chances of starting by transferring to another school? Every person's character is different. It depends on what they want in life. Some want to start, some want to win. I wouldn't be judging anyones character based on transferring. Especially in a world where we have 1,000+ kids in the transfer portal. Hell Georgia's starting corner, hit the portal the day after they won the championship.
I was just saying I wouldn't have been surprised if he would have left. He would have an opportunity to start at one of those schools.
Myself, I am ready to see Cole Payton in some shape or form. I see in my eyes, that he could play QPs role as the running quarterback in our offense as a way to integrate him into our offense.
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Originally Posted by
Professor Chaos
When he signed Trey had already began his NFL prep. When he committed (May 2020) that wasn't a for sure thing but IIRC at that time the draft buzz around Trey and him leaving after the 2020 fall season that never happened was already very string.
Cole verballed May 5th 2020. Trey declared for the NFL Draft Oct 6th after playing his last game on Oct 3rd. Cole signed the paperwork Dec 18, 2020
So he verballed before he declared and nobody through he would declare. It is still surprising
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Originally Posted by
NDSU92
Maybe they all have high character and want to play their part in helping their school win another championship?
QP could transfer to Illy State, but then he'd be the qb at Illy State. I'd rather have 5-10 snaps per game at NDSU.
I agree with the idea here, except for that it implies that CP or QP would have bad character if they chose to leave
Remember, QP CAME HERE... did he show bad character in that decision, but now that hes with us, he's back to being a good character kid again?
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tolnabison
Judging someone's character? Time out here. So you are saying that a player has a bad character if they want to improve their chances of starting by transferring to another school? Every person's character is different. It depends on what they want in life. Some want to start, some want to win. I wouldn't be judging anyones character based on transferring. Especially in a world where we have 1,000+ kids in the transfer portal. Hell Georgia's starting corner, hit the portal the day after they won the championship.
I was just saying I wouldn't have been surprised if he would have left. He would have an opportunity to start at one of those schools.
Myself, I am ready to see Cole Payton in some shape or form. I see in my eyes, that he could play QPs role as the running quarterback in our offense as a way to integrate him into our offense.
I quipped earlier in the season that I want a delta formation of Cole, Quincy, Luepke and T Williams. with max tight ends on the field. and see how many times we get their defensive coordinator to call time outs until they let us run the play
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So if QP comes back for one more season and splits snaps with Cam, if he graduates after next year as a Senior, would CP possibly fill that roll and split snaps with Cam the following year?
CP hasn't used a season of eligibility yet I believe, so next year will be his redshirt freshman year and he could possibly be splitting snaps as a sophomore. That would get somewhat on track to a regular QB progression but requires playing two QB's for the next 2-3 years.
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Originally Posted by
tolnabison
Judging someone's character? Time out here. So you are saying that a player has a bad character if they want to improve their chances of starting by transferring to another school? Every person's character is different. It depends on what they want in life. Some want to start, some want to win. I wouldn't be judging anyones character based on transferring. Especially in a world where we have 1,000+ kids in the transfer portal. Hell Georgia's starting corner, hit the portal the day after they won the championship.
I was just saying I wouldn't have been surprised if he would have left. He would have an opportunity to start at one of those schools.
Myself, I am ready to see Cole Payton in some shape or form. I see in my eyes, that he could play QPs role as the running quarterback in our offense as a way to integrate him into our offense.
Who said everyone who transfers has bad character? It surely wasn't me.
I know it's 2021 but try not to get offended by everything someone says lol. Thanks for the speech tho
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Originally Posted by
Minimum8Pete
I agree with the idea here, except for that it implies that CP or QP would have bad character if they chose to leave
Remember, QP CAME HERE... did he show bad character in that decision, but now that hes with us, he's back to being a good character kid again?
Never said transfers all have bad character. People transfer for all kinds of reasons.
Here's an example: a coach coming to tell you that you might as well transfer because you're buried on the depth chart or losing your scholarship. I bet it happens a lot more often than we think.
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Originally Posted by
NDSU92
Maybe they all have high character and want to play their part in helping their school win another championship?
QP could transfer to Illy State, but then he'd be the qb at Illy State. I'd rather have 5-10 snaps per game at NDSU.
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Originally Posted by
Minimum8Pete
I agree with the idea here, except for that it implies that CP or QP would have bad character if they chose to leave
Remember, QP CAME HERE... did he show bad character in that decision, but now that hes with us, he's back to being a good character kid again?
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Originally Posted by
NDSU92
Who said everyone who transfers has bad character? It surely wasn't me.
I know it's 2021 but try not to get offended by everything someone says lol. Thanks for the speech tho
You insinuated that by staying that makes them have high character by wanting to stay and not leave. And I am not the only one who thought you did.
I am not offended one bit. I am just saying hard to judge a person's character in the world of the transfer portal.
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Side note - Both MSU and ISU got Minnesota Gopher QB transfers in last week.
Missouri State - Jacob Clark
Illinois Sate - Zach Annexstad
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Originally Posted by
blackdiamond2
Side note - Both MSU and ISU got Minnesota Gopher QB transfers in last week.
Missouri State - Jacob Clark
Illinois Sate - Zach Annexstad
Can't even beat out garbage Tanner Morgan. Gross. I think Annexstad was a walk on though.
Morgan is below average on a good day, other than the 1 year he had 2 NFL receivers on his team.
**Edit to reflect that one was a walk on***
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I wish every job had a transfer portal.
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BisonHorns
I wish every job had a transfer portal.
Then there would just be a bunch of below average people thinking they can get a better job, when in reality, they would end up at Walmart.
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Wolfie
Then there would just be a bunch of below average people thinking they can get a better job, when in reality, they would end up at Walmart.
Or Hoople U.
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Originally Posted by
tolnabison
You insinuated that by staying that makes them have high character by wanting to stay and not leave. And I am not the only one who thought you did.
I am not offended one bit. I am just saying hard to judge a person's character in the world of the transfer portal.
Sorry forgot this is Bisonville where people will spend time arguing with you about what you meant lol carry on
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He needs to work on that release. Looks like he's throwing in slow motion talk about a wind up.
But those calves man.....
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Bisonator98
He needs to work on that release. Looks like he's throwing in slow motion talk about a wind up.
But those calves man.....
Like Popeyes forearms.
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EC8CH
Like Popeyes forearms.
We can sit and analyze Cole, but at this point we may never see him play much in a Bison uni if Cam keeps playing the way he did last year till his senior year. Cam played really well last year and if he improves some more this year look out.
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Snowgoose
We can sit and analyze Cole, but at this point we may never see him play much in a Bison uni if Cam keeps playing the way he did last year till his senior year. Cam played really well last year and if he improves some more this year look out.
Agreed. Wouldn't be surprised to see Cole transfer after next year if Cam keeps trending up.
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Snowgoose
We can sit and analyze Cole, but at this point we may never see him play much in a Bison uni if Cam keeps playing the way he did last year till his senior year. Cam played really well last year and if he improves some more this year look out.
Wouldn't Cole still have two years as starter?
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Cole could beat out Cam if coaches gave him 50% of the snaps in camp. having Quincy around ruins that
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El_Chapo
Cole could beat out Cam if coaches gave him 50% of the snaps in camp. having Quincy around ruins that
Just out of curiosity, what kind of grade would you give Cam for the 2021 season?
I mean, to my untrained eye, that looked like an A grade.
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ZHerd
Wouldn't Cole still have two years as starter?
If Cam uses all of his eligibility here Cole could have at most... one year.
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tony
Just out of curiosity, what kind of grade would you give Cam for the 2021 season?
I mean, to my untrained eye, that looked like an A grade.
I was fine with cams 2021 season, I just think there's more upside playing cole
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El_Chapo
I was fine with cams 2021 season, I just think there's more upside playing cole
Sorry going to agree to disagree. Peyton better athlete. Cam better QB at this point and it’s not close. Cam played great last year and got better as the year went in. He’s by far the more polished passer. Maybe they will use Cole like Quincy when he graduates.
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