2008 NDSU Recruits

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Originally Posted by SirHinn

Mr. Kramer can't teach someone to run a 4.4 40 if they only run a 4.7, either you have it or you don't.

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You might not get a 4.7 to a 4.4 but it all depends on the athlete. A good athletic trainer can work to get the fast twitch muscle fibers working efficiently and work with the muscle memory and stretching and you can improve statistical speed. You get muscles to work at peak performance and lengthened out by stretching you can improve most players coming out of High school in my opinion.

You can't train the "it" but you can give a athlete better tools to use when they "have it".

Here is one study that looked at someones loss after a decreasing training:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum


Here is another in the conclusion states: Complex training can be another valuable method for short-term power and speed improvements in athletes in isolation or in conjunction with other power development methods.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum

Just my .02

I didn't think Bisonhusker was talking smack, I think he just wanted to remind the Tight End that verballed to SDSU that the team enters the field from a mobile home. I thought it was one of the funniest posts in a long time. It is true. I am guessing he was being funny, no smack intended. I could be wrong.

I sent out a little smack. True, not the appropriate forum to do it, but still just having fun with our "rival" and didn't think it would cause a problem. So, I am sorry for saying the women's basketball team is taken to away games in a horse trailer.*






*I do not in fact know it is a "horse" trailer. Some form of livestock trailer, but not definitely a "horse" trailer. Sorry for the confusion. Won't happen again. Honest. I mean it. As always, I kid because I care.

So I see we have 9 verbals and 1 transfer.

I didn't read the entire thread so I'm sorry if this has been discussed, but anyone know where we were at last year with the amount of verbals we had?

Signing day is early February, and I'm wondering if we maybe just don't have many scholarships to give out and this is what our class will be looking like, or if we can hope for a few more in the next couple of weeks?

For some reason I'm thinking we had more last year at this time, but I could be wrong, or maybe we just had more scolarships to give out...

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Originally Posted by Mr. Burgundy

I didn't think Bisonhusker was talking smack, I think he just wanted to remind the Tight End that verballed to SDSU that the team enters the field from a mobile home. I thought it was one of the funniest posts in a long time. It is true. I am guessing he was being funny, no smack intended. I could be wrong.

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I doubt it.

We had more schollies to give out...and we dont need a big recruiting class this year....we have some amazing freshman, redshirt freshman, and a very solid soph. and jr. class comin up :D

Nobody really recruits tight ends. If the kid can play, he will likely end up at DE, or put on weight and play tackle. You can "manufacture" a tight end out of most any good athlete......why recruit one.

You recruits kids that can play tight end, thats why...haha they are kinda an important part of an offense for blocking and short to mid passing game. but i agree most of the time u recruit someone that fits the size and play him elsewhere but at the same time the TE is a very important position

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Originally Posted by Notorious

Nobody really recruits tight ends. If the kid can play, he will likely end up at DE, or put on weight and play tackle. You can "manufacture" a tight end out of most any good athlete......why recruit one.

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Yeah, that's why Bohl brought in AJ Cooper as a JUCO transfer.

That's why Wurzbacher was recruited as a TE.


The TE at NDSU is no longer referred to as the Outside Tackle of the Babich era. :smh:


There will be six TE's returning next year. That's why recruiting a TE was not a priority

Part of the reason why it's difficult to get a lot of early verbals is because they are targeting athletes also recruited by mid-level FBS programs. It's a filtering down process.

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Originally Posted by Notorious

Nobody really recruits tight ends. If the kid can play, he will likely end up at DE, or put on weight and play tackle. You can "manufacture" a tight end out of most any good athlete......why recruit one.

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Totally disagree---Tight Ends are generally one of the best athletes on the team if not "thee best" They have to have great hands --must also be able to block the big boys inside, as well as smaller quicker D-backs and linebackers. They recruit tight ends----and move them from there.

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Originally Posted by jackrabbit1979

Point taken. I just noticed in the article that NDSU was going to bring him in on an official visit so I thought I would point that out. I didn't think SDSU was either and it has been reported that we signed two and are looking hard at one more in WI. We have had some history of turning big and athletic TE's into very good offensive linemen though so that could be our reason.

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Signing day is Feb 6. Until then athletes can ony verbal, and there word isn't always good. So, SDSU hasn't signed two TEs, technically speaking.

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Originally Posted by Wacker_in_the_Hall

Totally disagree---Tight Ends are generally one of the best athletes on the team if not "thee best" They have to have great hands --must also be able to block the big boys inside, as well as smaller quicker D-backs and linebackers. They recruit tight ends----and move them from there.

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Ideally, yes, TE should have great hands. However, the UND grad who plays for the Vikes (brain fart, can't remember his name) has terrible hands thats why they don't throw to him. Wurzbacher has okay hands, snaches some great ones, but dropped two probable TDs this year, one against MN.

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Originally Posted by OldBison

Ideally, yes, TE should have great hands. However, the UND grad who plays for the Vikes (brain fart, can't remember his name) has terrible hands thats why they don't throw to him. Wurzbacher has okay hands, snaches some great ones, but dropped two probable TDs this year, one against MN.

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Kleinsasser.

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Originally Posted by Aces1180

Kleinsasser.

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Thank you for helping my old brain!

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Originally Posted by Aces1180

KleinDROPPER.

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Fixed it for ya.

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Originally Posted by OldBison

Ideally, yes, TE should have great hands. However, the UND grad who plays for the Vikes (brain fart, can't remember his name) has terrible hands thats why they don't throw to him. Wurzbacher has okay hands, snaches some great ones, but dropped two probable TDs this year, one against MN.

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Kleinsasser and Wurzbacher were elite high school athletes. Both were excellent Basketball players. They may not have NFL hands but both are excellent blockers and capable receivers

its amazing HOW LITTLE we know about verbals and possible verbals and possible recruits,

we have the most CLOSED LIP coaching staff in the country!!

someone's GOTTA get some more info, other than wissports.com

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Originally Posted by lakesbison

its amazing HOW LITTLE we know about verbals and possible verbals and possible recruits,

we have the most CLOSED LIP coaching staff in the country!!

someone's GOTTA get some more info, other than wissports.com

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Why spoil the signing day party?

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Originally Posted by lakesbison

its amazing HOW LITTLE we know about verbals and possible verbals and possible recruits,

we have the most CLOSED LIP coaching staff in the country!!

someone's GOTTA get some more info, other than wissports.com

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Coaches can't comment publicly on any of the recruits until after signing day. The reason you know about the BCS schools recruits is because of Rivals and Scout who have guys that make their living hounding these kids and their high school coaches to get the info from them.

Wurzbacher has had very few missed passes. In fact, he has made many very difficult catches. Don't forget, even the pros drop passes...sometimes several per game. This is no different than a running back with an occasional fumble. Noone is perfect. Not the pros, and certainly not college kids!!

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Originally Posted by imported_Bisongold

Wurzbacher has had very few missed passes. In fact, he has made many very difficult catches. Don't forget, even the pros drop passes...sometimes several per game. This is no different than a running back with an occasional fumble. Noone is perfect. Not the pros, and certainly not college kids!!

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That's for sure...The Vikings paid a lot of money for a free-agent TE (Visanthe Shiancoe) who can't catch.

i KNOW they cant comment..

but dam, some of us insiders should have some info on KIDS we' are targeting and stuff..

word gets out at most schools.. ndsu and our coaches really have been tight lipped... Im not saying its a BAD THING.. im just saying..

maybe some of "us" insiders do have the info.

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Originally Posted by Thunder_Struck

maybe some of "us" insiders do have the info.

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Rep points for U!!!!! Good one!

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Originally Posted by OldBison

Ideally, yes, TE should have great hands. However, the UND grad who plays for the Vikes (brain fart, can't remember his name) has terrible hands thats why they don't throw to him. Wurzbacher has okay hands, snaches some great ones, but dropped two probable TDs this year, one against MN.

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Actually he had great hands and speed in college if i remember right?

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Originally Posted by mn_bison_

Rep points for U!!!!! Good one!

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Looks like we may have another recruit out of Illinois.

http://www.areavoices.com/bisonmedia/


I can't beleive Lakes wasn't on this one earlier with all his inside info.

I love a big tough kid like that....I couldn't find any scouting info on him. I will keep digging. I hope we keep redshirting these kids.

Flew from Chicago to Fargo last night with Coach Garza and a few young men who I assume are recruits.

One guy was absolutely huge (the wrestler referred to above?). Each player looked stoic, athletic. Hope they enjoy Fargo.

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Originally Posted by NDSUFan_Sav

Actually he had great hands and speed in college if i remember right?

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Nope, not good hands then either at that time... Many drops then too, and some that hurt em real bad in big games.

Wurz is a little different, he is a more of a catching type than blocking. His drops appear to be more of concentration loss than otherwise stone hands.

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Originally Posted by NDB2

Flew from Chicago to Fargo last night with Coach Garza and a few young men who I assume are recruits.

One guy was absolutely huge (the wrestler referred to above?). Each player looked stoic, athletic. Hope they enjoy Fargo.

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Did you happen to see two guys each about 6'3"ish about 210 lbs who run a 4.45 with a cannon arm, and ivy league smarts? ....Just hoping.... :blush:

I wonder what the recruits are thinking about the -20 degree weather. I wonder how big of an influence that has on kids?

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Originally Posted by NDB2

Flew from Chicago to Fargo last night with Coach Garza and a few young men who I assume are recruits.

One guy was absolutely huge (the wrestler referred to above?). Each player looked stoic, athletic. Hope they enjoy Fargo.

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They sure picked a cold day to host recruits! I mean it can't get any colder than this this... However it was below zero in Chicago too so the guys are definatley NOT pussies when it comes to the weather. Even though it's colder than hell, somehow recruits get hooked.

It is old, but I found it again this morning, I can't wait for this kid next year!!! This article was obviously written prior to him verballing to NDSU. Pretty much the same that I have always heard about him, not a total speedster, but great hands. Hey, if he was faster....we would have lost him!

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With a desire to implement the spread offense at Minnesota, the new coaching staff is going to add talent at the receiver position. One of the best in state options is Hakeem Bourne-McFarlane (6-foot-3, 200 pounds) of Bloomington Kennedy. Bourne-McFarlane has no offers yet, but is receiving interest from all of the top programs in the upper Midwest.



According to his head coach, Bourne-McFarlane has the best hands of any high school receiver he has ever seen.
Three of the Big Ten's biggest rivals have been in contact with Bourne-McFarlane.

"Right now I am hearing from Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota, and North Dakota State." Bourne-McFarlane said. Right now they are all just talking, no fire yet. No one has offered, but I think Minnesota could be getting close."

Bourne-McFarlane is very impressed with Tim Brewster, the new head coach at Minnesota. He has not met any of the other schools head coaches and that is an advantage for Minnesota.

"Coach Brewster is really thinking big at Minnesota. I know some people that play at the U and they speak highly of him and what he is going to do there. He is the only head coach that has stopped by my school. Wisconsin had their receiver coach out and North Dakota State had an assistant out to meet me. Coach Brewster has put together a really nice staff and they are going to throw the ball more so as a receiver that means a lot."

Bourne-McFarlane will be looking at several aspects of the different schools that are recruiting him before making a decision. There is one part of his selection criteria he will not be flexible with, position.

"I want to remain at receiver in college. Wisconsin told my coach that I would make a good outside linebacker, but I don't like playing defense. I am also going to be looking at what the coaching staff says to me while they are recruiting me. I want to feel like they really want me, not that they are just telling me what I want to hear. I also want to go to a school with good academics. I want to make sure that whatever I decide to get my degree in, that I get a good education so I can succeed in life after football. I have some time to look around, I am not going to make any decisions until after my senior season."

This spring and summer will be very busy for Bourne-McFarlane. He is planning on going to as many camps and combines as he can to get the maximum exposure for himself. His college tour will start this weekend.

"I will be going to junior day at Minnesota this weekend. I am also going to go to camps a Minnesota, Wisconsin, and NDSU for sure. I might also go to Iowa. I am looking at going to at least one other out of state camp to get my name out there. I want to go to USC and maybe one more. I have to talk with my coach and decide which one will be best."

Kennedy Head Coach Dave Frisell counts Bourne-McFarlane as one of the best receivers he has ever seen at the high school level. He believes his star could also succeed on defense in college.

"Hakeem has great hands, best hands I have seen in high school football." Said Coach Frisell. "He is athletic and strong. Hakeem is just learning how to use that strength to his advantage. He needs to work on his running technique and get a little faster, but if you watch film of him he has great game speed and runs away from people so he can run. He is going to run track this spring and that will help a great deal. If he can improve this aspect of his game, he is a D-I receiver for sure. I think he could play outside linebacker or strong safety at the D-I level as well."

wow sounds impressive, and if he redshirts...jsut think how much faster and stronger he will get :D

Talked to one of the assistants at the MBB on Saturday. Didn't ask him about any recruits. He just said that if cold was an issue with a kid, we wouldn't want him. Also said that he had a busy 2 weeks coming up traveling to Chicago and Houston. He said that Coach Nystrum got the kid from Michigan.

Okay, I'm going to take a guess on who the football player/wrestler is from Illinois (Chicago) that supposedly commited according to the Bison Media Blog. I'll say it's Jason Schepler (6'3 240 lbs.) from Sycamore, IL. He is the third ranked heavyweight in Illinois and also received quite a few honors as a defensive end in football. There's a link to a story down below. Remember this is only an educated/uneducated guess....

http://daily-chronicle.com/articles/...s/sports01.txt

I'll add a second link to a story which says he's leaning towards playing football at the University of Illinois, but is keeping his options open...
http://www.daily-chronicle.com/artic...s/sports01.txt

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Originally Posted by Trainer

Okay, I'm going to take a guess on who the football player/wrestler is from Illinois (Chicago) that supposedly commited according to the Bison Media Blog. I'll say it's Jason Schepler (6'3 240 lbs.) from Sycamore, IL. He is the third ranked heavyweight in Illinois and also received quite a few honors as a defensive end in football. There's a link to a story down below. Remember this is only an educated/uneducated guess....

http://daily-chronicle.com/articles/...s/sports01.txt

I'll add a second link to a story which says he's leaning towards playing football at the University of Illinois, but is keeping his options open...
http://www.daily-chronicle.com/artic...s/sports01.txt

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Sounds about right. He does sound like a good get.

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Originally Posted by Trainer

Okay, I'm going to take a guess on who the football player/wrestler is from Illinois (Chicago) that supposedly commited according to the Bison Media Blog. I'll say it's Jason Schepler (6'3 240 lbs.) from Sycamore, IL. He is the third ranked heavyweight in Illinois and also received quite a few honors as a defensive end in football. There's a link to a story down below. Remember this is only an educated/uneducated guess....

http://daily-chronicle.com/articles/...s/sports01.txt

I'll add a second link to a story which says he's leaning towards playing football at the University of Illinois, but is keeping his options open...
http://www.daily-chronicle.com/artic...s/sports01.txt

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I hope you're right, he sounds great. Interesting dilema for him, walking on at IL or getting a scholie at a lower division school.