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I'm not sure how to take that?Quote:
Originally Posted by semobison
But, I certainly hold no ill will against anyone for feeling differently about this than I do. I'm just one of those personalities that gets really pissed when something like that happens.
As Bergundy said, (I'm actually paraphrasing)....the table was being set perfectly for a public relations explosion next week in Fargo that would have propelled this program to an even more fantastic level. Epic? Oh, yes.....mucho epic.
Take er with a grain of salt Izzy! Or a shaker of salt and la lemon slice!! Bottom line. Referees are part of the game, and you know they did a decent job when you didnt notice them at all!
That's another interesting quote. It's also a goal of most officials but sometimes the ball doesn't bounce their way. This play was a perfect example. No matter what they decided on that play, everybody would have noticed them. You can't be completely invisible.Quote:
Originally Posted by semobison
Trying to watch the replay on ESPN3.com and just saw the 3rd down pass on the EWU second series. On a small screen of a webcast it is so hard to tell but it definitely looked like it hit the ground. The only way I can see that as a catch is if his hands were at least somewhat under the ball. The ball can contact the turf as part of the catch as long as the ground wasn't used to help complete the catch. Those of you who have the TV broadcast probably had a much better view than me. Not as obvious as many described but I think it was incomplete.
NDSU was penalized 4 times for 50 yards. Only one was for a personal foul. Please.Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
Two personal fouls, one in the first half, one in the second half.Quote:
Originally Posted by houndawg
I've watched the replay on espn3 a couple times and I still think he was down. I can understand the on field officials ruling fumble because it's a bang bang play and replay CAN correct an obvious error if you let it go. If you rule down and replay shows it was a fumble it can not be reviewed. Officials who work games with replay are instructed to lean this way on close plays. The problem is the replay officials are instructed to only overturn a call on the field if there is overwhelming evidence it was wrong. My guess here is the replay's definition of "overwhelming" wasn't enough in this play. I think there is some question on whether the ball was coming loose as he was reaching forward before he was down but I think he still had possession when his arms hit the ground and the ball popped out.
This play is a perfect example of why instant replay is not always a good thing. If the officials did not have replay, this most likely would have been ruled down on the field. The philosophy I've been taught is to lean toward down if it's this close because you don't want to allow a cheap turnover. But replay changes that philosophy because you can't review a play for fumble/no-fumble if the runner is ruled down. Then add in the "overwhelming" evidence criteria and replay doesn't help the situation but hurts it.
Careful what you ask you when it comes to replay. It's not a perfect system either.
The ruling on the field was fumble, touchback! The replay official agreed! I dont know if replay is good or not in the FCS games, because of lack of camera's. There were a couple of instances in the Nova-App game where I thought the replay official would overturn the play on the field, and they didnt..... I know what Vince Lombardi would say about this replay shit....WHAT IN THE HELL IS GOING ON OUT THERE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPGW_81TleI
here you go