A new and better FBS thread

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

They all potentially benefit though from the additional PAC bids and tourney credits. It's in the best interests of all for the PAC conference to exist, if they can agree on financial terms that work.

Continue to believe this is the best answer for all of them *IF* they can cooperate on it. Fear or Greed could mess it up though.

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So why does the PAC/MW conference get two auto bids for all sports, but every other conference with two divisions only gets one?

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

So why does the PAC/MW conference get two auto bids for all sports, but every other conference with two divisions only gets one?

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In the relegation model it's not one conference with divisions it's two conferences.

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

So why does the PAC/MW conference get two auto bids for all sports, but every other conference with two divisions only gets one?

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That's exactly the "magic" with this. It's technically two conferences, even though they periodically shuffle teams between the two conferences. A conference only needs 8 members according to NCAA and FBS rules. All the other schools ran off. Effectively owning two conferences would be a coup for this group of schools.

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Originally Posted by TAILG8R

In the relegation model it's not one conference with divisions it's two conferences.

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Yes, I’m sure the B10, SEC and B12 will all see it that way lol

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

That's exactly the "magic" with this. It's technically two conferences, even though they periodically shuffle teams between the two conferences. A conference only needs 8 members according to NCAA and FBS rules. All the other schools ran off. Effectively owning two conferences would be a coup for this group of schools.

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Yes, we’ll call it “magic”

The rest of the NCAA will call it “double dipping”

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

Yes, we’ll call it “magic”

The rest of the NCAA will call it “double dipping”

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Not a whole lot NCAA could do about it easily. It's technically two FBS conferences, and would comply with all rules.

They'd either have to say Promotion/Relegation concept is not permitted (unlikely), or revisit the entire membership structure of conferences in general and autobids.

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

They all potentially benefit though from the additional PAC bids and tourney credits. It's in the best interests of all for the PAC conference to exist, if they can agree on financial terms that work.

Continue to believe this is the best answer for all of them *IF* they can cooperate on it. Fear or Greed could mess it up though.

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How would a team stuck in the bottom division benefit from this regelation model? I don’t see anymore money going to these teams than what they get now. OSU and WSU not wanting the bottom feeders of the MWC through a complete merger is why they will never get enough votes to approve this model.

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

Not a whole lot NCAA could do about it easily. It's technically two FBS conferences, and would comply with all rules.

They'd either have to say Promotion/Relegation concept is not permitted (unlikely), or revisit the entire membership structure of conferences in general and autobids.

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New NCAA bylaw saying that if two conferences adopt a promotion/relegation agreement the lesser conference forfeits its autobid. The NCAA’s lawyers would give that setup the “Sonny on the Causeway” treatment.

Of course maybe that’s what they want. A perceived continuation of the degradation of the college athletics landscape. Then those in power can remake it to their liking or break off completely.

Let me get this straight, the two entities share teams, a media deal, NCAA payout money, and operate in every other conceivable way as a single conference (besides having a different suite #’s), and have a legally binding contract that conferences can never separate - and the NCAA isn’t going to push back?

All the NCAA would have to do is revoke the MW’s charter

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Originally Posted by B.Schlossman Fan Club

How would a team stuck in the bottom division benefit from this regelation model? I don’t see anymore money going to these teams than what they get now. OSU and WSU not wanting the bottom feeders of the MWC through a complete merger is why they will never get enough votes to approve this model.

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$$$$$

You don't see this model as generating more $$ than the two separate conferences doing their own thing?

I don't care which teams go where in a standard conference model they are nowhere near as valuable as they are as a connected relegation model from a media contract standpoint.

The teams that are at the bottom would also be at the bottom of their shitty single conference worth less money. The upper teams also aren't as valuable without the "risk" of relegation to sell on the media side so they need the bottom feeders to fill out the roster of schools.