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Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka

I can prove to you right now that when a vote comes to become a relegation system no president will vote for it.
How?

Look how hard WasSU and OrSU are fighting to keep the "PAC" name and avoid ... relegation ... to the Mountain West.

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Oregon St didn't seem overly concerned about that aspect in the Athletic article. Perhaps they should be, but maybe they would also get some type of permanent status, or would at least stack the deck in their own favor there.

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Chun said he had not studied the Boise State model but wouldn’t believe Oregon State or Washington State would be at risk of relegation in a relegation model because both are top-25 football programs right now.

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Unless the PAC-2 end up financially strong enough to poach, their only other option than Promotion/Relegation system would be to outright join MWC, which is arguably an even lower status.

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Originally Posted by TAILG8R

Trying hard not to look through green and yellow glasses here ... in a promotion/relegation system I think NDSU and even SDSU are perfect candidates to draw eyeballs. NDSU especially. A large number of college football fans know of NDSU's success, it's a story that can be discussed ad nauseam by reporters and game coverage, and "eveyone" wants to see if NDSU can truly make it with the "big boys". What better way to prove that than in this model? Honestly it's almost reality TV which audiences eat up.

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Right, I COMPLETELY agree. But I’d argue that is a competition play for potential eyes and money, not a financial play for guaranteed money. Splitting hairs maybe, but wanted to clarify what I meant.

This quote from the Boise St AD tells you all you need to know about the G5 thought process, the potential split(not happening any time soon) and why things like keeping the PAC name is important. It's all about perception imo.

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His proposal begins by telling athletics officials to “control what you can control.” In reference to the Power conferences, it asks: “Do you want to be at the kids’ table under the same roof, or eating at a different establishment?”

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Originally Posted by TAILG8R

This quote from the Boise St AD tells you all you need to know about the G5 thought process, the potential split(not happening any time soon) and why things like keeping the PAC name is important. It's all about perception imo.

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Everybody not in a P4 conference is at another establishment while the bottom feeders in the the P4 are at the kids table.

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead

Everybody not in a P4 conference is at another establishment while the bottom feeders in the the P4 are at the kids table.

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There is a lot of truth to that but they all pretend they are still part of the party and no one wants to be the first to leave(or be left out)

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Originally Posted by TAILG8R

There is a lot of truth to that but they all pretend they are still part of the party and no one wants to be the first to leave(or be left out)

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I don't think anybody is pretending about anything..G5 conferences know their place in the hierarchy. They are not snobby or unwilling to add from FCS if it makes sense for a conference to do so. Lots of FCS schools have moved up.

As for getting left behind. OSU and WAZZU are the only P5 schools to be left in the lurch, so far. There will be more. It should be noted that no G5 school or conference caused the demise of the Pac 12..They did it to themselves.

One positive that may emerge from this is a more regional makeup of G5 conferences. The AAC is not pursuing OSU/Wazzu and their commissioner said they were looking at a more regional model. Scott Barnes, who is the AD of Oregon State also said that the health and welfare of their student athletes is better served by less time and travel in a non regional conference.

I don't think the relegation model will happen with the PAC/MW partnership but that doesn't have to happen anyway. I do think all the MW schools will be part of the merger if that does indeed occur. If not, then there could be some schools leaving.

https://athlonsports.com/college-foo...homa-situation

Some residual drama from OU and UT's exit from the Big XII.

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Originally Posted by MWC

I don't think anybody is pretending about anything.

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You must not know lakes very well eh.

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...l-worthy-study

Some of the same quotes from Barnes were in the Athletic article.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...ts-coming/amp/


A lot of chatter growing over the idea of relegation.


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