Re: A new and better FBS thread
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BigHorns
The interesting thing is a lot of the PAC expansion targets are already in MWC. They would need two more to make this work.
AAC has a few potential targets: Tulane, Memphis, UTSA. Maybe Tulsa or UNT. The money would need to support AAC buyout.
Other than that, our competition would likely be Sac St, Montana and MSU. Maybe UCD for the market/location.
I’m not sure why they wouldn’t go for one of the 7 G5 schools in Texas? Maybe they actually get the fact that no one cares about their programs?
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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bisonaudit
I’m not sure why they wouldn’t go for one of the 7 G5 schools in Texas? Maybe they actually get the fact that no one cares about their programs?
They won't touch the garbage that is CUSA now, but some of the AAC texas teams could be in play, especially the better ones like UTSA. The AAC exit fees could be a barrier also though, depending what the PAC/MWC can come up with money wise.
In theory, Texas St could also be in play, but they are at the bottom of SBC, and probably not a first choice. They have a reasonable fanbase and stadium, but have not been good on the field. Just hired UIW's coach, and maybe better this year. They knocked off Baylor and show signs of improving.
Went and double checked, with the departure of SMU to ACC, there's only 6 G5 in Texas.
CUSA: SHSU, UTEP
SBC: Texas St
AAC: UTSA, UNT, Rice
Of those, I'd say UTSA or UNT most likely. UNT is mediocre.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Originally Posted by
BigHorns
They won't touch the garbage that is CUSA now, but some of the AAC texas teams could be in play, especially the better ones like UTSA. The AAC exit fees could be a barrier also though, depending what the PAC/MWC can come up with money wise.
In theory, Texas St could also be in play, but they are at the bottom of SBC, and probably not a first choice. They have a reasonable fanbase and stadium, but have not been good on the field. Just hired UIW's coach, and maybe better this year. They knocked off Baylor and show signs of improving.
Went and double checked, with the departure of SMU to ACC, there's only 6 G5 in Texas.
CUSA: SHSU, UTEP
SBC: Texas St
AAC: UTSA, UNT, Rice
Of those, I'd say UTSA or UNT most likely. UNT is mediocre.
Two FCS names were mentioned but don't forget Sac St just humbled mighty Stanford and Montana State gave SDSUblue all it wanted.
They have numerous options for "15 and 16" should this become more than a thought experiment.
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The_Sicatoka
Two FCS names were mentioned but don't forget Sac St just humbled mighty Stanford and Montana State gave SDSUblue all it wanted.
They have numerous options for "15 and 16" should this become more than a thought experiment.
I have a hard time coming up with more compelling options than those I listed:
AAC: Tulane, Memphis, UTSA. (If they find the new arrangement and money side compelling enough to pay AAC exit fees)
FCS: Sac St, Montana, MSU. (If they are willing and able to move up)
That just may be THE list of most realistic options other than NDSU/SDSU.
Anything else is starting to dig deep into mediocrity.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
What does a P5 pay a G5 for an OOC game? Those PAC/MW crossover games could be a good opportunity to help stabilize the money piece. The PAC teams host, the MW teams get some cash equivalent for going into a P5 stadium.
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When it’s time for the MW to expand, it’ll be NDSU and SDSU.
Sac State’s athletic department is abysmal from top to bottom, excepting the football program for exactly one season and three games.
Their basketball stadium holds 1k, football stadium is a high school stadium. Have never made the NCAA tourney and last year they had their first ever FCS playoff victory.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Originally Posted by
BigHorns
The interesting thing is a lot of the PAC expansion targets are already in MWC. They would need two more to make this work.
AAC has a few potential targets: Tulane, Memphis, UTSA. Maybe Tulsa or UNT. The money would need to support AAC buyout.
Other than that, our competition would likely be Sac St, Montana and MSU. Maybe UCD for the market/location.
Sac St beating Cal doesn’t help NDSU, I guess…
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Don’t discount UC Davis, probably the best academic school in the MWC. Their fan base excitement just isn’t there in the Big Sky but elevating them to the MWC or PAC instantly makes their teams more exiting and relevant to the eyeballs in the area.
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B.Schlossman Fan Club
Don’t discount UC Davis, probably the best academic school in the MWC. Their fan base excitement just isn’t there in the Big Sky but elevating them to the MWC or PAC instantly makes their teams more exiting and relevant to the eyeballs in the area.
Mentioned UCD, but I see them as a darkhorse, not a leading contender.
If they went that way, it would indicate a focus on geography, market, potential, and academics. It would also likely mean some other more desirable teams said no, or couldn't afford exit fees. Not a team that moves the needle competitively in the near term. Long term potential could be there.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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BigHorns
Mentioned UCD, but I see them as a darkhorse, not a leading contender.
If they went that way, it would indicate a focus on geography, market, potential, and academics. It would also likely mean some other more desirable teams said no, or couldn't afford exit fees. Not a team that moves the needle competitively in the near term. Long term potential could be there.
Agree with this… the whole idea appears to be some kind of play on being more competitive on the field. Not academic acumen…