A new and better FBS thread

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

NDSU could EASILY do this with the MWC or AAC as well.

NDSU could say "hey let us join, but we keep our LOCAL TV setup and only take 50% of your TV money"

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It's an interesting thought. I wonder if a deal could be structured to get us into the AAC where we take a quarter share or less for x amount of years. As long as we could retain statewide TV rights for home broadcasting, maybe it could be done. I'm pretty sure the new AAC schools (UNT, UTSA,Rice, UAB, Charlotte, FAU) are only pulling 2.5 million in rights compared to 7 million for the legacy members.

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Originally Posted by Gully

Well, if the MWC or AAC don't work out, I think I'm finally on board for Conference USA for football only. They just have to do something or they're going to lose the little of the momentum that is left. Bohl used to cite the quote of either being green and growing or ripe and dying. The program is no longer growing.

The competition isn't much of an upgrade from the Valley really but it would be FBS and might open the door to P4 money games. They would then be positioned well if the P4 end up completely breaking off to be at the FBS playoff level, which would really be where they belong.

I'm watching UTEP and Jack State now and it looks like JSU has a pretty cool setup (and I think they're still working on it).

As a fan would have some different road trips and matchups at least.

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I go back and forth on the Conference USA deal. Would Tue and Wed game keep us growing? I just don't think so when fan travel to games is huge for NDSU.

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Originally Posted by THEsocalledfan

I go back and forth on the Conference USA deal. Would Tue and Wed game keep us growing? I just don't think so when fan travel to games is huge for NDSU.

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Not ideal, for sure. Are they all on Tue and Wed?

In Jacksonville State's first game hosting a real FBS program in UTEP they drew just under 18k fans to their 24,000 seat stadium yesterday. That's just below their 2022 average (playing an ASUN/FCS schedule) and well below their heyday in 2015 when they averaged over 20k. They can't even use Auburn or Alabama as an excuse since neither played.

I don't think going FBS is going to be the automatic cure for NDSU football's slumping attendance. It would help I'm sure but it's also well within the realm of possibility that we never see the demand from the early to mid 2010s again even in the FBS.

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Originally Posted by THEsocalledfan

I go back and forth on the Conference USA deal. Would Tue and Wed game keep us growing? I just don't think so when fan travel to games is huge for NDSU.

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Tuesday Wednesday games are gross. Maybe 1 game I could stomach but 99% of people working until 5. Tailgating would be dead

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Originally Posted by AKBison

It's an interesting thought. I wonder if a deal could be structured to get us into the AAC where we take a quarter share or less for x amount of years. As long as we could retain statewide TV rights for home broadcasting, maybe it could be done. I'm pretty sure the new AAC schools (UNT, UTSA,Rice, UAB, Charlotte, FAU) are only pulling 2.5 million in rights compared to 7 million for the legacy members.

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I do think a deal like that could work. Hawaii has a similar deal for football only in the MW.

The key is "what's in it for the conference you wish to join?" I am only talking money wise. Do the other schools have to come out of pocket even a little to make it happen? Do you have to chip in some of your home broadcasting revenue to make it work?

Will ESPN kick in a little more dough to make it work. Will that work for all sports, including your extra travel expense? Will you pay a travel subsidy?

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Originally Posted by HerdBot

Tuesday Wednesday games are gross. Maybe 1 game I could stomach but 99% of people working until 5. Tailgating would be dead

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stop with the TUES/WED STRAWMAN BULLSHIT its only the MAC that plays those. NDSU will never goto the MAC

and with CUSA looks like 1 or 2 https://conferenceusa.com/news/2023/...ll-season.aspx

But both CUSA/MAC get the whole nation on ESPN on a Tuesday or Wednesday Night I guess.

(BUT NDSU ALREADY SAID NO TO CUSA & wont got MAC so this point / argument is MOOT)

/End Story

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

stop with the TUES/WED STRAWMAN BULLSHIT its only the MAC that plays those. NDSU will never goto the MAC

and with CUSA looks like 1 or 2 https://conferenceusa.com/news/2023/...ll-season.aspx

But both CUSA/MAC get the whole nation on ESPN on a Tuesday or Wednesday Night I guess.

(BUT NDSU ALREADY SAID NO TO CUSA & wont got MAC so this point / argument is MOOT)

/End Story

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The AAC does play Thursday football games. Pretty much 1 every week. Were you in the league you have a good chance of missing that most years..

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

stop with the TUES/WED STRAWMAN BULLSHIT its only the MAC that plays those. NDSU will never goto the MAC

and with CUSA looks like 1 or 2 https://conferenceusa.com/news/2023/...ll-season.aspx

But both CUSA/MAC get the whole nation on ESPN on a Tuesday or Wednesday Night I guess.

(BUT NDSU ALREADY SAID NO TO CUSA & wont got MAC so this point / argument is MOOT)

/End Story

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19 games on weekdays for a conference that only had 10 teams. None of the weekday games are on ESPN. 3 on ESPN2. 6 are on ESPNU. 10 are on CBS Sports Metwork

There are 3 total Saturday games conference wide on ESPN or ESPN2. 7 on CBS Sports Net. The rest are ESPN+

CBS SPORTS NETWORK

Thu 9/28 Middle Tennessee @ WKU 6:30 p.m. CT/7:30 p.m. ET
Fri 9/29 Louisiana Tech @ UTEP 8:00 p.m. CT/9:00 p.m. ET
Wed 10/4 FIU @ New Mexico State 8:00 p.m. CT/9:00 p.m. ET
Thu 10/5 Sam Houston @ Liberty 6:00 p.m. CT/7:00 p.m. ET
Tue 10/10 Louisiana Tech @ Middle Tennessee 6:00 p.m. CT/7:00 p.m. ET
Wed 10/11 Sam Houston @ New Mexico State 8:00 p.m. CT/9:00 p.m. ET
Tue 10/17 Middle Tennessee @ Liberty 6:00 p.m. CT/7:00 p.m. ET
Wed 10/18 FIU @ Sam Houston 6:00 p.m. CT/7:00 p.m. ET
Tue 10/24 New Mexico State @ Louisiana Tech 6:00 p.m. CT/7:00 p.m. ET
Wed 10/25 Jacksonville State @ FIU 6:00 p.m. CT/7:00 p.m. ET


ESPN2
Wed 10/11 UTEP @ FIU 6:30 p.m. CT/7:30 p.m. ET
Wed 10/18 New Mexico State @ UTEP 8:00 p.m. CT/9:00 p.m. ET
Wed 10/25 UTEP @ Sam Houston 7:00 p.m. CT/8:00 p.m. ET

ESPNU
Thu 9/28 Jacksonville State @ Sam Houston 7:00 p.m. CT/8:00 p.m. ET
Wed 10/4 Jacksonville State @ Middle Tennessee 7:00 p.m. CT/8:00 p.m. ET
Thu 10/5 WKU @ Louisiana Tech 7:00 p.m. CT/8:00 p.m. ET
Tue 10/10 Liberty @ Jacksonville State 6:30 p.m. CT/7:30 p.m. ET
Tue 10/17 WKU @ Jacksonville State 6:30 p.m. CT/7:30 p.m. ET
Tue 10/24 Liberty @ WKU 6:30 p.m. CT/7:30 p.m. ET

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Originally Posted by HerdBot

19 games on weekdays for a conference that only had 10 teams. None of the weekday games are on ESPN. 3 on ESPN2. 6 are on ESPNU. 10 are on CBS Sports Metwork

There are 3 total Saturday games conference wide on ESPN or ESPN2. 7 on CBS Sports Net. The rest are ESPN+

CBS SPORTS NETWORK

Thu 9/28 Middle Tennessee @ WKU 6:30 p.m. CT/7:30 p.m. ET
Fri 9/29 Louisiana Tech @ UTEP 8:00 p.m. CT/9:00 p.m. ET
Wed 10/4 FIU @ New Mexico State 8:00 p.m. CT/9:00 p.m. ET
Thu 10/5 Sam Houston @ Liberty 6:00 p.m. CT/7:00 p.m. ET
Tue 10/10 Louisiana Tech @ Middle Tennessee 6:00 p.m. CT/7:00 p.m. ET
Wed 10/11 Sam Houston @ New Mexico State 8:00 p.m. CT/9:00 p.m. ET
Tue 10/17 Middle Tennessee @ Liberty 6:00 p.m. CT/7:00 p.m. ET
Wed 10/18 FIU @ Sam Houston 6:00 p.m. CT/7:00 p.m. ET
Tue 10/24 New Mexico State @ Louisiana Tech 6:00 p.m. CT/7:00 p.m. ET
Wed 10/25 Jacksonville State @ FIU 6:00 p.m. CT/7:00 p.m. ET


ESPN2
Wed 10/11 UTEP @ FIU 6:30 p.m. CT/7:30 p.m. ET
Wed 10/18 New Mexico State @ UTEP 8:00 p.m. CT/9:00 p.m. ET
Wed 10/25 UTEP @ Sam Houston 7:00 p.m. CT/8:00 p.m. ET

ESPNU
Thu 9/28 Jacksonville State @ Sam Houston 7:00 p.m. CT/8:00 p.m. ET
Wed 10/4 Jacksonville State @ Middle Tennessee 7:00 p.m. CT/8:00 p.m. ET
Thu 10/5 WKU @ Louisiana Tech 7:00 p.m. CT/8:00 p.m. ET
Tue 10/10 Liberty @ Jacksonville State 6:30 p.m. CT/7:30 p.m. ET
Tue 10/17 WKU @ Jacksonville State 6:30 p.m. CT/7:30 p.m. ET
Tue 10/24 Liberty @ WKU 6:30 p.m. CT/7:30 p.m. ET

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Basically 50% of all CUSA games are midweek now.

Each school plays at least 4 midweek games. Last week of September and all of October is midweek.
Believe MAC does this in November instead.