Re: A new and better FBS thread
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BigLakeBison
It’s hard to believe that some deny that NDSU doesn’t belong in the FCS. WIU left the MVFC/Summit because NDSU raised the bar for budgets especially for football and the other 3 Dakotas are chasing them. We spend like a G5 school. We don’t belong here and it’s not good for anyone. Not for NDSU and not for the rest of the FCS.
Don't think anyone would argue with a MWC or AAC move, and thats what we seem to be interested in.
Its looking likely there will be slots there, just the PAC-4 and other conferences have to figure things out. Personally, I'd be ok with MAC as well, and think we'd have a shot, but maybe the money doesn't work. Bus leagues are generally that way to save money.
CUSA would be a competitive downgrade, literally. Sagarin ratings make that clear. It was the right call for NDSU to say no to that trainwreck.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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BigHorns
Don't think anyone would argue with a MWC or AAC move, and thats what we seem to be interested in.
Its looking likely there will be slots there, just the PAC-4 and other conferences have to figure things out. Personally, I'd be ok with MAC as well, and think we'd have a shot, but maybe the money doesn't work. Bus leagues are generally that way to save money.
CUSA would be a competitive downgrade, literally. Sagarin ratings make that clear. It was the right call for NDSU to say no to that trainwreck.
If a better spot opens up in the next few years, yes. If NDSU remains in the FCS for the next decade or more, then I disagree. I guess we’ll see. I hope you’re right because I do agree that MWC or AAC are better options.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Professorbum
Hoping for stars to align is not a plan. Same ol' back-footed, "see how things shake out" approach to FBS as always. What we've always needed, and have always lacked, is a will to go to FBS come hell or high water because we belong there. And have a Plan A, Plan B, and Plan C to get there. And then go after each plan one by one until we are in FBS. This has never been our mentality.
The plan has always been to take the opportunity to move up to the FBS if an invite comes, I’m sure we have always been prepared to accept an invite if the right one comes. Sad thing is we haven’t gotten any invite. Hard to blame the administration when it’s really out of their hands. CUSA is the only thing we could have tried to jump at and instead we are are in the FCS waiting for the door to open.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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BigLakeBison
My interpretation of things is that Cook is more open to FBS than Bresciani ever was. I think that along with the recent FCS to FBS move ups, the response to Covid from the larger FCS and the continuing decline in fan engagement has made staying in the FCS more risky for NDSU. That is what I think is driving their more public openness to the prospect of moving to FBS. I would agree that ML doesn't deserve the entirety of criticism that he gets. It very well could be that he has been banging the FBS drum behind the scenes and has been met with opposition by higher ups. If that was the case though I would think he would have become very frustrated and likely not want to remain in a position where he feels his opinions regarding the Ath. Dept. don't carry the weight he would like. It is probably more realistic that he shared similar views to the higher ups and didn't think FBS was the right move until recently. I don't know, just speculating.
Anyone who is president right now would be open to moving to the FBS as they would see that the program is slowly fading way due to “bison fatigue”. The cash cow is dying and you can’t just let that happen without changes.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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BigLakeBison
I think there is (1) FBS at any cost. I think the rest have differing levels of cost that they would support.
You could count me but my stakes are different so I don't think I should count.
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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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El_Chapo
Yeah Washington State and Oregon State.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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daddy daycare
Yeah Washington State and Oregon State.
I agree that is the most likely target but $4m/yr is going to be a very tough pill to swallow.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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TAILG8R
I agree that is the most likely target but $4m/yr is going to be a very tough pill to swallow.
but even then MWC can add more to get to 16 teams
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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El_Chapo
but even then MWC can add more to get to 16 teams
Right. It's possible, maybe not likely, the MWC has decided that with all this chaos you're either growing or dying and they want to add for strength in numbers.
