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Originally Posted by tjamz
You again are talking out of your ass on subject you have no clue about.Quote:
Originally Posted by bisonaudit
Very enlightening. Thanks for your feedback.Quote:
Originally Posted by 56BISON73
You are speaking on a subject you have extensive first hand knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by 56BISON73
Oh come on, that was in the leather helmet eraQuote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
Nah, him talking about people talking out of their asses on subjects they know nothing about. PL is a certificate expert on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by HerdBot
we are gonna need a passing game to beat JMUQuote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
You know PL was a O Lineman for both Iowa and NDSU so him calling bullshit about cadence/pre snap movements and the causes is not out of line. Especially when the person who he is talking to doesn't have the same experiences. At least that's what I see here.Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
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Originally Posted by El_Chapo
And at this point, Cam gives us the best chance. You really don't want to put in a true Freshman at the most important game in 2 years. The problem isn't the QB. It's the receivers who couldn't get open and dropped 4 balls.
Not what I'm talking about. But Pat also said don't start Wentz against JSU at the championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtoutfitter
I know that you have issues with him but, him calling bullshit on BA for something that PL knows way more about should not be one of those issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
I don't think anyone blames the quarterback, but rather the OC that changed up the QB situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by bisonaudit
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So Pat says the false starts last game are because QP took some snaps? Ok? He also said don't start Wentz because the offense was used to Stick. That was boarder line retarded, but guess he had to be right because according to you he should know way more about that stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtoutfitter
Also Pat says vaccines weren't tested with double blind trials he probably talked to a guy who knows about such things.
Please.....Wentz/Stick, judgement call. Double blind trials is something I'm tired of hearing about. I'm just saying people should respect his opinion on the false starts as he was a College OL and I would think he would know A LOT more about it than the average poster.Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
Hahaha. No judgement call. Klieman himself said not even a decision. Second Wentz was ready, you play him.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtoutfitter
Sick of double blind studies? Pat can correct himself and I'll probably stop bringing it up from time to time.
In all fairness, I was in the same boat. But had I known he had been secretly practicing for 3 weeks, I might have felt differentlyQuote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
Without question, he knows a thing or 2 about O-line. He has forgotten more than I know. Unfortunately the lack of padding in the leather helmets gave him brain damage and he forgot it all. As a result, he now slow roasts raccoons assholes on a stick and calls it sausage.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtoutfitter
Personally I think too much QB rotation can have a negative impact but Quincy was in at QB for what 6 snaps? It's really no different than most teams that do a wildcat and they don't suddenly jump offsides every play. And as i pointed out earlier, of the 4 false starts, only 1 was on an offensive lineman. I think the bigger issue is the loss of Gindorf is having a patchwork of guys do the work of the TE. All the penalties were during shifts to that spot
Plus being the center Im pretty in tune with different QBs. Not only cadence but hand placement and teaching the QB he needs to ride the center forward for a split second when delivering the ball while hes under center while Im flying off the LOS. There are many nuances most dont have a clue about.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtoutfitter
What do either of those things have to do with the insiders info PL has with QB cadence and how it affects an OL?Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
I played guard in high school. That's how I was able to determine you start the senior NFL draft pick over the red shirt freshman. Lots of nuances most wouldn't pick up on without that experience.
One, his excuse to not play Wentz was similar about the offense not adjusting to a new QB. Herp Derp... Play Wentz.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtoutfitter
B. He talks out of his ass all the time about shit he's clueless about... See double blind studies.
Nope nobody is blaming the QB. But a QB makes a difference thats all that was said. But the usual jackasses made it out to more than what what was intended.Quote:
Originally Posted by tjamz
Its what they do.
Not really....Wentz was an opinion, everybody had one, turned out his wasn't the one Klieman went with. Like I said just his personal opinion, as another poster said earlier PL didn't know that Wentz had been practicing. Adjusting as an OL to a new QB is something he has personal experience with.Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
More like some say the linemen, TEs and fullbacks who jumped are responsible for their own mistakes. The usual crew with their axes to grind particularly about the OC, want to blame it on him giving Quincy a few snaps. They seem to be the ones making more out of that decision even some stupid shit about making players happy like it's some handout to QP?Quote:
Originally Posted by 56BISON73
Klieman disagreed. Flat out said it was a no brainer. Look it up. He didn't need to consider it for a second.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtoutfitter
I know that but your dislike of PL keeps you from seeing his point. Instead you want to divert to Wentz/Stick and Double Blind Trials and refuse to give a nod to experience. Good night all.Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
That doesn't make Klieman right or wrong. Thats an opinion thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
The "cadence" thing is pretty widely accepted as an issue across football lmaoo
That Wentz torn the stuffing out of the Gamecocks makes Klieman and everyone who saw the obviousness of starting Wentz right. Silly overblown concerns were silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ByeSonBusiness
Also made Klieman and the Bison National Champions.
Same guys experience lead to that bonehead opinion about Wentz over similar concerns. Same bonehead talks out of his ass and is completely wrong on other subjects like vaccines. I feel my point is crystal clear and relevant, good day if you disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtoutfitter
I see Pats point. I think he is overblowing it just like his reasons not to start Wentz. I think CAS is overblowing it because he loves grinding his axe about Roehl.
I think QP is a special talent. Ran all over ETSU and they knew it was coming and couldn't stop it. Good on Roehl for getting him on the field to contribute to the offense.
It didn't "make" ndsu champions. They would have won either way in retrospect. They turned the ball over three times lol. Their decision ended up not biting them in the ass though and thats good.Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
Nobody's blaming Quincy. It's just a fact that introducing more variables into an equation complicates the result.Quote:
Originally Posted by bisonaudit
People are also painting a revisionist history. Before the game we were told Wentz was healthy, and some believed that and some didn't. Some believed his wrist would be nagging. It's really easy to say "See I was right!" 6 years later, but at the time it was a judgement call. Kleiman saying "no real decision" is just coach speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtoutfitter
The truth is, Easton would have also won that game by multiple touchdowns.
Seriously dude. Quit while you're only a little behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
Coaches say aaaaaalllllllll kinds of things. He made the decision, and put his full support behind Wentz. Anything less would be dereliction of his duties.Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
I still don’t know what’s going on in this thread but Cole should start.
On Friday.
I'm sure it's ultra one way vs ultra the other way bro. Cool kids vs computer dork eh. CAS wasn't needed here. Painting was involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
Maybe, but I'm not as confident of that as you seem to be. Going strictly on recall here, the single pass that Easton threw in that game, to Carson, was pretty weak and short and picked IIRC. This was definitely not the same Easton we saw after another off season with Kramer et. al.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreThePride
Still, you may be correct but I bet the game would have looked quite a bit different. Carson carved those chickens up with his arm talent.
Pretty sure he has already been named the starting Clipboard Commander for this tilt. Did I miss something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
I agree, not playing Wentz would have been dereliction of dutyQuote:
Originally Posted by WeAreThePride
Exactly this! It's not the fault of the QB/Wildcat. It's a byproduct of a change of pace/cadence, that adds an unnecessary level of complexity at times.Quote:
Originally Posted by 56BISON73
Would be so much easier to just play the most gifted guy on the roster with the biggest calves.