Ah 50-2 31 straight. Yeah I'm used to it. Half the stadium is empty because it's not even competitive for 3rd straight home game. Open your eyes !!
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Ah 50-2 31 straight. Yeah I'm used to it. Half the stadium is empty because it's not even competitive for 3rd straight home game. Open your eyes !!
Alabama is up 52-0 over #21 a&m right now. Wonder if they have students leave early.
Their students leave early, but they don't give good seats to old people.Quote:
Originally Posted by BisonTeacher
I want a serious discussion about this. Please. 🙏 this is a joke. #11 & #21 team in nation and we destroy both
How can you ask for a serious discussion when you spit out exaggerated numbers and half truths.... where does the money come from to double the athletic budget first a straight answer on this....and then a real discussion can ensue
Oil money! Straight cash homie. Sorry, I'm not sure how to spell homie
He makes a great point. We destroyed another opponent today. And we were "coasting." Yawn.
Strongman. 50-2. I was at chubs at 27-3 & it was packed with people from the game. Lots of chatter about FBS
ANYWHERE ELSE we'd have 90% of the fans pushing for FBS and bigger challenges. Lately people just want to be the best of the lousiest! ! 50-2. 31 in a row. When we go 100-3 or so when will all of you be ready to move up? Fans are bored they leave early.
I know you posted this in a different thread but I wanted to reply here. Im guessing most people would admit their relationships with their spouse is not as exciting as it was when they first met. So does that mean because it may not be as exciting as it once was you are going to leave them for something newer, prettier and more of a challenge? And thats IF you could even get the invite. :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
If so that says a lot about who you are as a person.
Well its relieving to see people at chubs talkin about FBS. Any insight on what you're hearing from them at Chubs?Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
he's the only one talking about it so it's very similar to this threadQuote:
Originally Posted by MNLonghorn10
About 4-5 ndsu greats including a hall of famer. It's ok we are making progress last year everyone was like "Yea yea this is ndsu's best team ever let's see after we lose 20 seniors"
This year "el chapo you are onto something and I believe and yes NDSU needs to figure out thier future now!"
Yep ok chapo..... good one
ISUb beat writer sees eyes opening up to NDSU for Valley BB or FBS conferece. Still a long ways to go, but a fourth FCS championship, undefeated season, and new BB arena could bring in some offers. Most likely would be the MVC seeing Value beyond FB.
All this P5 separation talk is very premature. Does the MVFC, CAA, BSC, and SOCon need to separate from the rest of the FCS? When your at the top you already get the spoils, so why do you have to separate?
A question for the group (Even though I don't know why I bother).... If NDSU moves up will it negatively effect recruiting? We seem to win at least some recruiting battles with lower level FBS teams because kids want a chance to play for a championship. Or will competing against high level teams offset that loss.
If we were in a conference like the Big 12 I could see how playing teams like that could appeal to a kid. If we moved "up" to a conference like the Sun Belt I don't consider Arkansas State, South Alabama and Louisiana-Lafayette high level teams. Most likely that would kill recruiting in our current footprint as few parents/families would be able to attend many of the away games.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMB
Let's see, complain about people being bored and leaving early. Brag about leaving early.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
I am not sure the love affair with the big 12. Not sure the joy of watching all our sports getting their ass kicked.
Every year there is 8-10 recruits with NDSU offers or regional schools that PICK THE FBS school just because they are FBS. Fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMB
Miami Oh NIU Pitt Toledo Iowa St just to name a few.
Why would you think that? We would get Big 12 recruits just like everyone in the conference, if not better.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMB
BUT, we're better than those programs. Sounds like we are still getting the best of the best. I think we are winning that exchange. They get the problem children. We get the smart guys with character.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Besides the fact there is no recruiting base in North Dakota? And our facilities are subpar (per big 12 standards). Or that out alumni support is a fraction of Big 12 schools. And if we had a fraction of success the other schools would just hire our coaches?Quote:
Originally Posted by BisonNation11
That is the most ignorant post ever. That's a flat out falsehood (most problem kids go juco), a marginal fbs recruit will take the FBS offer most times, heck they take FBS PWO'S over fcs full rides most times just to say they are a fbs playerQuote:
Originally Posted by NorthernBison
So let me get this straight.... FBS teams have an institutional recruiting advantage because they are FBS and get better recruits. However if NDSU went to the MAC or MWC we would contend immediately for the conference title even though we have FCS players?Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
How many MAC teams have we lost to? Your argument is that we lose players to schools like that "just because they are FBS". Even if you weren't making it up (yeah right), I would expect us to be much worse than your typical MAC football team.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
But we're not. In fact, you yourself, have proposed the argument that we would WIN the MAC.
If FCS is such a recruiting disadvantage that we lose great recruits just because of the initials, how are we doing so well? It seems impossible.
Cripes, you even threw ISU in there to TRY and make a point. Of course kids take P5 offers all the time (and we still beat them). I'd say any kid who takes a MAC or Sun Belt offer "just because they are FBS" is NOT the kind of "character" player we want on the roster. Kids commit here because they want to play for the Bison and be a part of something special.
Those that want to brag about playing FBS and have that as their motivation aren't worthy of playing for the Bison without an attitude adjustment.
Oh, and I'm sure you have the record for ignorant posts. Just pick one anywhere. One of the memorable recent ones was your "math" in calculating how we'd make $1.28 million per year selling beer. Business Major? Really? Do you even know what COGS stands for?
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Originally Posted by NorthernBison
So you are saying that kids who want to play at the highest level of football need an attitude adjustment?
22 more full rides to give to the 22 regional kids who otherwise went FBS or the top.2-3 recruits of sdsu uni usd siu Montana etc. Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by JMB
COGS = What Spacley Sprocket used to sell on the jetsons!
Hate to correct ya there ol' buttless chaps................Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Mr. Cogswell sold cogs.
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...._Cogswell.jpg
George's boss Mr. Spacely.....sold only sprockets.
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...31/Spacely.png
They dont take the offer to SAY they are an FBS player. They take the offer because they WANT TO BE an FBS player. They think they have the talent to play at that level. No different than players who come here as a walkon as opposed to accepting a D2 offer or NAIA.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
The tip is in the name--Spacely SPROCKETS. GEEZQuote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Izzy u r da man!!Quote:
Originally Posted by IzzyFlexion
Hawaii just joined the MWC in 2010. Theyre not going anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
We would need those extra rides if you were evaluating the talent. Jose Mohler wasn't able to crack the starting lineup of a D2 team and you thought he was the next Steve Walker. You said Brock Jensen wasn't good enough to start at NDSU. There's a lifetime of head scratchers right there. There's a thing called credibility. You'll never know what it is. We're doing fine competing with the MAC teams right now. After all, we'd dominate that league with our current roster. Right? I think you've already said that several times.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
The fact that NDSU would win the Sunbelt and MAC RIGHT NOW does not change the fact that we should move up.
I think we WOULD move to FBS if somebody other than the Sun Belt offered us a spot in their conference. Crickets..Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
Hawaii will drop football before they leave or get kicked out of the MWC.Quote:
Originally Posted by ndsubison1
What are the chances if we moved up we would get a yearly game with the Gophers? Kind of like ISU/Iowa. I guess I can't see the Gophers coming to Fargo every other year.
0%. They know no matter what venue we play them at, we'd dominate them.Quote:
Originally Posted by natstar1
Actually I disagree, Gopher admin really wants to play ndsu again.
coaches and players not so much.
WHEN NDSU is in the mountain west or mac, we would have a shot at a 3-1 with Gophers (pending a new stadium in fargo)
Holy Crap! I agree with your numbers. Well done. I need a nap.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo