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Maybe they use/leverage the PAC Network for production, assuming that wasn't totally dismantled.
It just seems that there would be mutual benefits for Netflix and PAC to have this as part of the base package and distributed to all subscribers. I'd agree that if they make it a separate add-on subscription, it may be doomed.
I sort of want to see a streaming model like this succeed. If it works for the PAC, then that makes it a viable path for the MWC as well, and solves their late night game times. The major linear channels are already saturated with P5 contracts, mostly B1G, SEC, B12. Would be nice to have more competition and outlets willing to pay for games.
I agree with a lot of what you’re saying. I think it’s a great option for the G5 teams. No more Tuesday night or 10pm games that no one is watching anyways. I don’t think it’s a good option for a P5 conference, though. The P12 has learned that the big value in being a P5 conference is having people talking about you all the time - it helps the brand immensely. This would be a move that takes it further out of the limelight and frankly would put it in direct competition to linear and cable TV providers. There is 0 chance ESPN/Fox/CBS/NBC talking heads are going to spend time telling viewers about games on a streaming platform.
I am also jaded because I see what happens with the soccer rights in the US. I’ve been following Leeds since 2018 and if you were wanting to have access to all of their games over a season you would need: ESPN+, linear tv, cable, cable sports package, Peacock, Paramount+. Not apples to apples but I could see a situation where a mountain west fan would need a subscription to a cable sports package, fox sports streaming and paramount+ just for conference games - then maybe ESPN+ for a non-con road game. They carve up the schedule to make you pay three different organizations to watch the games. That’s how they all make their money.
I jumped on the ala cart slingtv bandwagon in 2015 thinking it was going to be this super democratic free choice I can pick what I want option. Let’s just say I went back to cable and a sports package with espn+ on the side. Haven’t ever thought of looking back.
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Just because they are streaming doesn't mean they'll change the times. If all the games are on at the same time, fewer people will watch. Tuesday and Wednesday games get decent ratings. Probably better than their Saturday games earlier in the year. Streaming services passed cable in the last year or two and only expects to grow. I do have multiple streaming subscriptions, but it's still cheaper than what I paid for cable, and I dint feel like I'm missing anything. Young people today don't know much different. It may be 10 years away, but I expect this will be the norm.
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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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IndyBison
Just because they are streaming doesn't mean they'll change the times. If all the games are on at the same time, fewer people will watch. Tuesday and Wednesday games get decent ratings. Probably better than their Saturday games earlier in the year. Streaming services passed cable in the last year or two and only expects to grow. I do have multiple streaming subscriptions, but it's still cheaper than what I paid for cable, and I dint feel like I'm missing anything. Young people today don't know much different. It may be 10 years away, but I expect this will be the norm.
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Yeah there’s no doubting the long-term trends. But what matters now is what’s happening now. I guess to bring the conversation back to where it started, the P12 is either ending up on streaming platform or cable - no room on the linear TV. The comparison isn’t between cable/streaming it’s linear/streaming. And either way it’s not getting a deal to match the B12 if those are it’s only two options.
And if that’s the case, it’s cooked as we know it.
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Yeah there’s no doubting the long-term trends. But what matters now is what’s happening now. I guess to bring the conversation back to where it started, the P12 is either ending up on streaming platform or cable - no room on the linear TV. The comparison isn’t between cable/streaming it’s linear/streaming. And either way it’s not getting a deal to match the B12 if those are it’s only two options.
And if that’s the case, it’s cooked as we know it.
Here we agree.
The PAC has the inherent problem that 80% of the people of the US live in the Eastern or Central time zones (basically east of a line from San Antonio to Grand Forks).
At 7 pm Pacific most (~80%) of the country is winding down their day: fewer viewers means less money.
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It's 3 Eastern, noon Pacific, and ... crickets. Nothing PAC; nothing SDSUred; nothing nothing. Crickets.
Has someone checked on Chapo today?
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NDSU92
I agree with a lot of what you’re saying. I think it’s a great option for the G5 teams. No more Tuesday night or 10pm games that no one is watching anyways. I don’t think it’s a good option for a P5 conference, though. The P12 has learned that the big value in being a P5 conference is having people talking about you all the time - it helps the brand immensely. This would be a move that takes it further out of the limelight and frankly would put it in direct competition to linear and cable TV providers. There is 0 chance ESPN/Fox/CBS/NBC talking heads are going to spend time telling viewers about games on a streaming platform.
I am also jaded because I see what happens with the soccer rights in the US. I’ve been following Leeds since 2018 and if you were wanting to have access to all of their games over a season you would need: ESPN+, linear tv, cable, cable sports package, Peacock, Paramount+. Not apples to apples but I could see a situation where a mountain west fan would need a subscription to a cable sports package, fox sports streaming and paramount+ just for conference games - then maybe ESPN+ for a non-con road game. They carve up the schedule to make you pay three different organizations to watch the games. That’s how they all make their money.
I jumped on the ala cart slingtv bandwagon in 2015 thinking it was going to be this super democratic free choice I can pick what I want option. Let’s just say I went back to cable and a sports package with espn+ on the side. Haven’t ever thought of looking back.
To be fair, college football teams only participate in one competition a year rather than 4, but yes as you say, they are still subject to multiple broadcast agreements which may require multiple subscriptions in order to get every single game. But one (or perhaps two) should get you most of them and the most important ones. I think last year only 1 bison football game wasn’t on ESPN+?
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Pete Thamel
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Source: San Diego State is expected to deliver a notice to the Mountain West today that it will not withdraw from the league, as the school previously stated it intended to do. San Diego State plans to move forward as part of the Mountain West.
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/statu...23-page-7.html
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sdsu always screwing us... argh
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sdsu always screwing us... argh
Red or Blue?
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Red or Blue?
yes.
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