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Two words for you lakes. Deny's


(Poor man's Perkins)

it's gonna take 1 of these guys pushing NDSU to FBS unfortunately since Dean is gone and Matt has no frigging clue

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

it's gonna take 1 of these guys pushing NDSU to FBS unfortunately since Dean is gone and Matt has no frigging clue

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JFC you're a one trick pony.

You think this money fell out of the sky? Your exalted Gene Taylor took forever to find 35 million for the SHAC and STILL fucked that up.

They got 50 million for this IPF in 3 years and shovels are already in the ground.

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Originally Posted by Bison 4 Life

JFC you're a one trick pony.

You think this money fell out of the sky? Your exalted Gene Taylor took forever to find 35 million for the SHAC and STILL fucked that up.

They got 50 million for this IPF in 3 years and shovels are already in the ground.

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Methinks Chapo should just become a Gophers fan so he can watch a "nationally relevant" team.

So you want him to enter NDSU in the "transfer portal" and hope a better conference invites us and then look dumb when nobody has after 10 years.

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Originally Posted by MankatoBison

Alot of extremely valid points made in this post.

I just want him to make ANY statement, not veiled in double speak etc about whether or not they desire FBS or not, notice the crumbling FCS or not, and what-if anything- they are doing or have done within their power to address the situation, or if they believe there is nothing to be addressed in the first place!

There is a giant F*cking elephant in the room and he has pretended to ignore it publicly for 6 months. He has addressed that an elephant exists and but has purposefully stated nothing of substance about what the hell their approach to the elephant is.

If they want to stay #FCSforever, state it publicly and reap the consequences/benefits of it. Just be honest about your position with your donors, and we could put alot of this to rest instead of keeping so many of us on the hook donating more and more for something the admin has no interest in in the first place. So irresponsible and dishonest, for ML not to be forthright in their intentions. Its astonishing how no one is holding his feet to the fire on this

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead

So you want him to enter NDSU in the "transfer portal" and hope a better conference invites us and then look dumb when nobody has after 10 years.

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Exactly. I prefer having Kolpack, Izzo and McFeely do the PR work on this question. Let ML stay "clean", although I disagree about the "still here in 10 years" thing. I expect we’ll be long gone by then. Hopefully we all live long enough to see it …

Fundraise the City, University the amount of money around town is what's a good word for it. Unbelievable.
Uncle Doug always comes through.

People in Grand Forks think a downtown Grocery store is something Fargo is jealous of. Ha

Why did the Blattner Company or any other Minnesota company allow the U of Minnesota cut athletic programs?

How many cities in America have an endless supply of cash like this one? Lucky city.

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Originally Posted by reformedUNDfan

Mayan revival is great and so is Nativity


As a previous resident of downtown Grand Forks and downtown Fargo, a downtown grocery is something Fargo should be very jealous of. For that matter downtown Grand Forks in many ways is better than downtown Fargo now.

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I guess it's not a priority in Fargo. Challenge these guys and see what happens.
Maybe there running out of room.

How about a 75 Million Dollar downtown Basketball arena. Before the game and after the game Bison Burgers and Buds.
How about a new 250 Million Football Dome Downtown. Make room.

Top it off with an invite to The Big 12.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

I hope NDSU is smart enough to let Blattner flip the coin Saturday or at least recognize them in the president's suite besides daylryple getting his free tickets

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Can I say how much I despise that we have to announce whatever politician has graced us with their attendance every frickin gameday??? Who the F cares?

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Originally Posted by Bison Dan

BS - GF is limited on everything and Hugo's downtown will be a money loser but they're the only game in town so they don't care.

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Epic razed the hotel so that kinda sucks, but on the other hand Grand Forks has a downtown state park and a sixteen-plex theatre. The surviving pre-flood architecture is better though.

Downtown Hugo's should make big money since there isn't another grocery within 3 miles.

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Originally Posted by TAILG8R

Can I say how much I despise that we have to announce whatever politician has graced us with their attendance every frickin gameday??? Who the F cares?

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All 5 fans who applaud?

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Originally Posted by GRAFTONBISON

All 5 fans who applaud?

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Lol I do take solace in the realization almost no one reacts.

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Originally Posted by TAILG8R

Lol I do take solace in the realization almost no one reacts.

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I'll occasionally give a "woooooo! Alright Politicians!!!!"

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Originally Posted by EC8CH

I'll occasionally give a "woooooo! Alright Politicians!!!!"

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You would!!!

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Beware the Aggies, I guess. What about the Aztecs and the B12? Right ...

NDSU would do just fine in the MWC. Just fine

What did the MWC say again … "If football success on the field matters ..."

So tell me MWC. Does it??

Yes Mountain West is the logical play. mostly Land Grant University's like NDSU

Some of the zebras are wearing streaming bodycams in the B!G Championship game. Pretty cool views.

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Originally Posted by Bison Dan

BS - GF is limited on everything and Hugo's downtown will be a money loser but they're the only game in town so they don't care.

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There are some people who care about GF. Just not the right people.

They seem to care about Jamestown.

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Originally Posted by Bison Dan

BS - GF is limited on everything and Hugo's downtown will be a money loser but they're the only game in town so they don't care.

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Dan is the School of Science branch in Fargo going to be apart of tri college?

You'll have to change the name?

You can play football at SU and be a Plumber. Or whatever they offer at Fargo Science.

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Originally Posted by TAILG8R

Can I say how much I despise that we have to announce whatever politician has graced us with their attendance every frickin gameday??? Who the F cares?

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You're not the only one who thinks that's annoying.

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead

So you want him to enter NDSU in the "transfer portal" and hope a better conference invites us and then look dumb when nobody has after 10 years.

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Hmmm weird, no I dont recall saying that at all! Its almost like you made that comment up out of whole cloth!

If I recall correctly, I said:

"I just want him to make ANY statement, not veiled in double speak etc about whether or not they desire FBS or not, notice the crumbling FCS or not, and what-if anything- they are doing or have done within their power to address the situation, or if they believe there is nothing to be addressed in the first place!"

If you believe that addressing a question about the future of the football program should be completely off limits for the ATHLETIC DIRECTOR of the college, then AD position is completely and utterly useless. Honestly astonishing that you think making asking ML to make a comment about the landscape of FCS football, and our position in it, just too crazy of an idea to be entertained. lol

There's a cute little subset of Bisonvillers that represent .0000001% of the fanbase that seem to think the AD needs to get on the media and show his ass by saying no conference wants us right now.

What a great statement to the donors, weakness and failure.


Your delusions of grandeur do not conscript the leadership into availing you of those silly notions.

judging by attendance you might want to adjust that percentage

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Originally Posted by Bison 4 Life

There's a cute little subset of Bisonvillers that represent .0000001% of the fanbase that seem to think the AD needs to get on the media and show his ass by saying no conference wants us right now.

What a great statement to the donors, weakness and failure.


Your delusions of grandeur do not conscript the leadership into availing you of those silly notions.

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"I just want him to make ANY statement, not veiled in double speak etc about whether or not they desire FBS or not, notice the crumbling FCS or not, and what-if anything- they are doing or have done within their power to address the situation, or if they believe there is nothing to be addressed in the first place!"

please tell me, in detail, what would be inappropriate about an athletic director commenting about the current position, and future positioning of the subdivision and of the place of their program in it?

I'm sure your answer will be utterly and completely fascinating

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Originally Posted by MankatoBison

"I just want him to make ANY statement, not veiled in double speak etc about whether or not they desire FBS or not, notice the crumbling FCS or not, and what-if anything- they are doing or have done within their power to address the situation, or if they believe there is nothing to be addressed in the first place!"

please tell me, in detail, what would be inappropriate about an athletic director commenting about the current position, and future positioning of the subdivision and of the place of their program in it?

I'm sure your answer will be utterly and completely fascinating

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The clear statement is where NDSU will sit eventually. FBS is the top tier, full stop. Putting Akron in the same division as Ohio State is stupid as fuck but organizationally that's where they are.

Saying NDSU wants to be FBS would be against what their stated goals are, to be rightfully in the organizational second tier.

A lot of nuance, I get it, hard to understand what's going on if you don't hear "bUt muH fBS!!!!1!!!

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Originally Posted by Bison 4 Life

The clear statement is where NDSU will sit eventually. FBS is the top tier, full stop. Putting Akron in the same division as Ohio State is stupid as fuck but organizationally that's where they are.

Saying NDSU wants to be FBS would be against what their stated goals are, to be rightfully in the organizational second tier.

A lot of nuance, I get it, hard to understand what's going on if you don't hear "bUt muH fBS!!!!1!!!

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And yet, note the first line - https://twitter.com/McFeely_Inforum/...43708725465089

"A number of people in NDSU athletics want to go to the Mountain West if possible."

I doubt Akron survives in FBS, FWIW. I know a few people on faculty there. The long knives are out and they are sharp ...

Correction: "knew" ... they all left for greener pastures due to budget cuts

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

And yet, note the first line - https://twitter.com/McFeely_Inforum/...43708725465089

"A number of people in NDSU athletics want to go to the Mountain West if possible."

I doubt Akron survives in FBS, FWIW. I know a few people on faculty there. The long knives are out and they are sharp ...

Correction: "knew" ... they all left for greener pastures due to budget cuts

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I'd bet they would also like to be in the Big 10.......if possible.

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Originally Posted by Bison 4 Life

I'd bet they would also like to be in the Big 10.......if possible.

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Your avatar serves you well, or maybe it's the other way around. Won't matter soon enough ...

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

Your avatar serves you well, or maybe ts the other way around. Won't matter soon enough ...

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Honestly, everyone acts like ML needs to just go on Tik Tok and give one of those promposals to the MW and they will immediately say yes.

Nobody wants football only schools anymore, especially ones that don't offer anything else.

Instead of just screaming Mountain West/FBS, has anyone thought of contacting them and seeing if they've considered NDSU? Have they talked with ML? The deputy commisioners email is easily found. bgilliland@TheMW.com

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Originally Posted by mtoutfitter

Instead of just screaming Mountain West/FBS, has anyone thought of contacting them and seeing if they've considered NDSU? Have they talked with ML? The deputy commisioners email is easily found. bgilliland@TheMW.com

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Try it and you'll probably get a generic answer that the conference is always considering options for adding new teams. They aren't going to say that they haven't heard from NDSU or that Matt Larsen did call and we told him to pound sand.

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead

Try it and you'll probably get a generic answer that the conference is always considering options for adding new teams. They aren't going to say that they haven't heard from NDSU or that Matt Larsen did call and we told him to pound sand.

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I'm not gonna try it as I'm good with whatever NDSU does. Who knows what they'll say. Just saying it's an option, you're probably right on their response but you never know.

So now we have another thread that's become all about FBS. I'm all for going but we don't need to ruin this board by injecting the topic into every single thread. Pretty soon, CAS is going to be taking more de-wormer due to the infectious nature of FBS talk on BV.

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Originally Posted by OrygunBison

So now we have another thread that's become all about FBS. I'm all for going but we don't need to ruin this board by injecting the topic into every single thread. Pretty soon, CAS is going to be taking more de-wormer due to the infectious nature of FBS talk on BV.

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Well, at least he’ll be worm free then.


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I'm bumping this one.

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Originally Posted by tony

I'm bumping this one.

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yea I don't know why all the FBS talk cant go into this one....

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Originally Posted by Bison 4 Life

The clear statement is where NDSU will sit eventually. FBS is the top tier, full stop. Putting Akron in the same division as Ohio State is stupid as fuck but organizationally that's where they are.

Saying NDSU wants to be FBS would be against what their stated goals are, to be rightfully in the organizational second tier.

A lot of nuance, I get it, hard to understand what's going on if you don't hear "bUt muH fBS!!!!1!!!

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So you have no answer. I understand they have said the 2nd tier thing in the past. but everything has changed so incredibly since that time, to pretend that our situation is the same as before is to completely ignore reality. It also ignores the reality that ML said this calendar year that if teams start leaving the FCS, it may be time to start reevaluating our situation. You cant pick ML soundbites you like, and ignore the ones you dont. He said both. I want someone to ask him to simply clarify.

Its wild that you think having the AD address a question about the changing landscape of the division is just too insane and inappropriate that it doesn't even merit a response. lol. Its not "mUh fBs!" to ask a question about the deterioration of the FCS and have ML comment if it concerns him or not.

I know you dont want to go FBS, and that's ok, but all of the endless pearl clutching at the idea that someone should ask a question to the man in charge is pretty ridiculous to me

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Originally Posted by mtoutfitter

Instead of just screaming Mountain West/FBS, has anyone thought of contacting them and seeing if they've considered NDSU? Have they talked with ML? The deputy commisioners email is easily found. bgilliland@TheMW.com

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You can do a freedom of information request for all the presidents/AD's of Mountain West schools and Matt Larson.

Problem is people have wised up and tend to user burner phones now lol

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

yea I don't know why all the FBS talk cant go into this one....

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I think it is impossible to limit ALL FBS talk to a single thread. It is an issue that permeates so many other issues. Think about the Bison Fatigue thread. That isn't necessarily an FBS thread. It is a thread to speculate about the causes of fandom decline. But of course FBS is going to be a part of that discussion. I see the thread moves as a silencing of dissent. Which is fine. I've wasted too much time already over the past few months thinking about this issue and arguing a position. Fans don't have a say. We're not moving to FBS with the current leadership, which means the clock will run out and we won't be moving to FBS at all. Not much left to discuss that hasn't been discussed. I'm going to move on. The basketball season awaits my undivided attention.

Seriously, this isn't an FBS thread.