Re: A new and better FBS thread
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bisonaudit
What’s your point? Nobody pays anyone more than the legal minimum just because they want to.
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You would be wrong.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Originally Posted by
bisonaudit
What’s your point? Nobody pays anyone more than the legal minimum just because they want to.
Well, that's not true at all.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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daddy daycare
lol...wut....if you're referring to me I never mention money as a hurdle. Geography is literally the only reason NDSU sits where they sit today.
AirPlanes from Fargo to Springfield Miss or Youngstown Ohio are same distance to Denver and Boise FFS
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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MWC
The players want to be considered employees. The schools simply do not have to pay them as much as an NL deal which comes from boosters. I do not know why the athletes are pursuing this path..If I were a school president I would welcome the employee model and do away with the scholarships..If your 'job' is to be a football player you don't even have to be a student..
The issue with NIL is that almost none of them are actual marketing deals. They’re salaries paid by boosters. So I think the idea is to stop pretending that we’re doing something that we’re not and just own up to the idea that we pay football players to play football.
I don’t see any freer market scenario where players get paid less.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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El_Chapo
AirPlanes from Fargo to Springfield Miss or Youngstown Ohio are same distance to Denver and Boise FFS
Yet it’s the main reason NDSU is still FCS.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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El_Chapo
AirPlanes from Fargo to Springfield Miss or Youngstown Ohio are same distance to Denver and Boise FFS
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daddy daycare
Yet it’s the main reason NDSU is still FCS.
How does the turbulence compare eh?
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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MWC
If the MW does add you would be down the list a bit. One of the hurdles is you have no history or familiarity with MW. Every school in the MW was in the WAC at one time. So were Utep, Texas State, NMSU and La Tech. They are a known quantity. SMU, UTSA, Tulsa, and Rice were Wacsters too. North Texas was in the Big West with several MW schools. They would be hard to get but not impossible.
There are options..
UTEP/NMSU/LT : can see them jumping at the chance, but are they really better adds than NDSU? I kind of doubt they are. Their records and Sagarin are horrible.
Texas St: maybe 50-50 chance of them leaving SBC for MWC. I do think they would go to AAC to join UNT, UTSA, SMU, etc.
UTSA, Tulsa, Rice, UNT: seem very unlikely to leave AAC for anything short of P5, also have a big exit fee. MWC should have added them before the AAC did. Now it's likely too late.
SMU: has been rumored for PAC or B12.
I'm not sure the realistic options extend beyond UTEP/NMSU/LT or FCS schools for backfills.
UTEP #128
NMSU #136
LT# 147
There's at least 15-20 FCS schools that would beat them on the field.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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BigHorns
UTEP/NMSU/LT : can see them jumping at the chance, but are they really better adds than NDSU? I kind of doubt they are. Their records and Sagarin are horrible.
Texas St: maybe 50-50 chance of them leaving SBC for MWC. I do think they would go to AAC to join UNT, UTSA, SMU, etc.
UTSA, Tulsa, Rice, UNT: seem very unlikely to leave AAC for anything short of P5, also have a big exit fee. MWC should have added them before the AAC did. Now it's likely too late.
SMU: has been rumored for PAC or B12.
I'm not sure the realistic options extend beyond UTEP/NMSU/LT or FCS schools for backfills.
I agree..It would be tough to get them. It might be hard to add any of them, including NDSU. I don't think NDSU's Sagarin ranking would play any role in the decision to add or not add your school. This not really a football centric conference though good football programs are always helpful. I do think SDSU is leaving but that doesn't mean any addition is necessary at this time.
It should be noted that San Diego State has been a WAC/MW member since 1978 and neither conference has ever garnered a lucrative tv deal. No addition is going to change that. SDSU is not a great football program but they are getting a P5 slot because their are over 3 million people in San Diego County and and they are in southern California. No potential add brings anything close to that.
If the MW loses only SDSU this round, the next tv deal will probably be about the same as it is now. The providers are paying for late night time slots. You simply don't move the needle enough..
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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taper
The only reason you think I talk in circles is because you straight up lie about what I said then compare that against what I did say.
As far as doomsday, were you around for any of the flood years? We started sandbagging long before the water was flowing down streets. Same thing here. Pay for play is coming and you can choose to be ready for it or not. Alston was a 9-0 SCOTUS decision. Johnson is in the 3rd Circuit, not some local small claims court. California assembly recently passed a revenue sharing bill that'll probably be passed by the senate and signed by the governor by the end of the year. House v NCAA is trying to get that nationwide. Nick Saban is calling for a players union. The Patriot League said they'll shut down before paying players. I didn't pull any of this out of thin air, it's happening whether you or I want it or not. Only question is how broad or narrow the policy will be.
Yes, changes are coming. College athletics is not going to end though. There's too much money and influence that want to preserve it. There will be compromise. If college athletics goes full on semi-pro they will lose their "niche". Name a semi-pro league in this country that has the interest and financial pull that college athletics do? The worst case scenario has a very small chance of happening. But yet you promote basing the future decisions of NDSU on the small chance that the worse case scenario happens.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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BigHorns
UTEP/NMSU/LT : can see them jumping at the chance, but are they really better adds than NDSU? I kind of doubt they are. Their records and Sagarin are horrible.
Texas St: maybe 50-50 chance of them leaving SBC for MWC. I do think they would go to AAC to join UNT, UTSA, SMU, etc.
UTSA, Tulsa, Rice, UNT: seem very unlikely to leave AAC for anything short of P5, also have a big exit fee. MWC should have added them before the AAC did. Now it's likely too late.
SMU: has been rumored for PAC or B12.
I'm not sure the realistic options extend beyond UTEP/NMSU/LT or FCS schools for backfills.
UTEP #128
NMSU #136
LT# 147
There's at least 15-20 FCS schools that would beat them on the field.
Only CUSA teams would consider leaving their current conference for the MWC, the sunbelt and AAC are coveted spots not worth giving up for a western conference.
