Re: A new and better FBS thread
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The_Sicatoka
First sentence: Perfect summary.
Second sentence: Those student fees would go further if
NDSU's enrollment looked more 2014 and less 2005. And when local news reports show NDSU students question why an ITF when there are program cuts, the environment doesn't appear friendly to athletics fees.*
*Yes, the targeted donations built that ITF; not all the students understand or care about that detail.
https://www.valleynewslive.com/2022/...nization-plan/ <- 1:06 mark
You should be worrying about yourselves and not NDSU. UND athletic department is a money pit - having the taxpayers of GF subsidizing it and the city loaning money to it. You guys are just worried about being left behind again when we jump to FBS.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Bison Dan
You should be worrying about yourselves and not NDSU. UND athletic department is a money pit - having the taxpayers of GF subsidizing it and the city loaning money to it. You guys are just worried about being left behind again when we jump to FBS.
Subsidize? You mean like playing football in a city-owned facility? Guilty. As is NDSU.
And a city loan that'll be paid back resulting in a facility that'll be used by UND, GF Schools, and GF Parks.
The gross athletic budgets are nearly identical over the last five years. UND has hockey which is claimed here as a pit. What pit is NDSU throwing money down? Could some be used better to get the red out of academics?
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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The_Sicatoka
President Bresciani was tone deaf on a lot of items and didn't do much over his tenure to move the University forward. The current budget predicament was created under his leadership. I'm not sure I would use his opinion on this matter as a bellwether for the future. He didn't do anything terribly negative but he sure as hell wasn't someone that I would label as "visionary". So forgive me if I don't put much stock in that opinion.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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BigLakeBison
President Bresciani was tone deaf on a lot of items and didn't do much over his tenure to move the University forward. The current budget predicament was created under his leadership. I'm not sure I would use his opinion on this matter as a bellwether for the future. He didn't do anything terribly negative but he sure as hell wasn't someone that I would label as "visionary". So forgive me if I don't put much stock in that opinion.
But NDSU92 told me about this huge capital campaign during his tenure ...
Was he the best NDSU's had? Maybe not even top three, but he could get the donor bucks, so I'd say he knows donor bucks.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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oldmantutters
How about this for a conference?
Washington State
Oregon State
Boise State
Montana
Montana State
Wyoming
NDSU
SDSU
Colorado State
And fill in with 1-3 of the following:
UND
USD
Northern Colorado
Idaho
Idaho State
Portland State
If the PAC12 gets raided it could mean a huge shake up in the landscape of things.
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I think the remaining PAC schools pick off the best of the MWC before that happens.
All the bad things will happen to the new schools in this round of expansion too; no exit fee participation, entrance fee, uneven revenue distribution. They will all say yes to move up a tier, including NDSU.
New PAC10: Stanford, Cal, WSU, OSU, Boise, SDSUr, SMU, CSU, Fresno, UNLV (Maybe Rice and Tulane if you want 12)
New MWC: Air Force, Wyoming, NDSU, SDSUb, New Mexico, UTEP, Hawaii, USU, Nevada, SJSU, Montana, Montana State
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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EP NDSU Fan
I think the remaining PAC schools pick off the best of the MWC before that happens.
All the bad things will happen to the new schools in this round of expansion too; no exit fee participation, entrance fee, uneven revenue distribution. They will all say yes to move up a tier, including NDSU.
New PAC10: Stanford, Cal, WSU, OSU, Boise, SDSUr, SMU, CSU, Fresno, UNLV (Maybe Rice and Tulane if you want 12)
New MWC: Air Force, Wyoming, NDSU, SDSUb, New Mexico, UTEP, Hawaii, USU, Nevada, SJSU, Montana, Montana State
And thus “SDSUb” was born.
Do I give up my campaign to start calling them “Those Fucks”…?
…Time will tell…
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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The_Sicatoka
Subsidize? You mean like playing football in a city-owned facility? Guilty. As is NDSU.
And a city loan
that'll be paid back resulting in a facility that'll be used by UND, GF Schools, and GF Parks.
The
gross athletic budgets are nearly identical over the last five years. UND has hockey which is claimed here as a pit. What pit is NDSU throwing money down? Could some be used better to get the red out of academics?
Do you still give the majority of the football gate to the foundation running the facility you play hockey in even after all these years?
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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EP NDSU Fan
I think the remaining PAC schools pick off the best of the MWC before that happens.
All the bad things will happen to the new schools in this round of expansion too; no exit fee participation, entrance fee, uneven revenue distribution. They will all say yes to move up a tier, including NDSU.
New PAC10: Stanford, Cal, WSU, OSU, Boise, SDSUr, SMU, CSU, Fresno, UNLV (Maybe Rice and Tulane if you want 12)
New MWC: Air Force, Wyoming, NDSU, SDSUb, New Mexico, UTEP, Hawaii, USU, Nevada, SJSU, Montana, Montana State
I think the Pac will stay at the 10 they have now.
Maybe San Diego State goes to the Big 12 but that seems unlikely.
However, who knows.
As for your New MW. AFA would leave for the AAC, Hawaii would go independent, New Mexico would join with UTEP in CUSA, Utah State would likely go to CUSA as well. I don't know about San Jose State but Nevada could go AAC or just drop football and concentrate on basketball and baseball in the WCC.
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MWC
I think the Pac will stay at the 10 they have now.
Maybe San Diego State goes to the Big 12 but that seems unlikely.
However, who knows.
As for your New MW. AFA would leave for the AAC, Hawaii would go independent, New Mexico would join with UTEP in CUSA, Utah State would likely go to CUSA as well. I don't know about San Jose State but Nevada could go AAC or just drop football and concentrate on basketball and baseball in the WCC.
No one is going CUSA by choice
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Re: A new and better FBS thread
Nobody is going to hang in there with 4 FCS schools coming on board either..
