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NorthernBison
Redshirt Freshman.
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Really? Oh well, next time I tell it, he'll have been a high-school junior! :biggrin:
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JMU Post-Game Thoughts & Discussion
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DCinOK
Watching the game on DVR, JMU's first drive of the second half...they have a 3rd and 2 at about our 10 yard line. They split the Stapleton boys out to the right....tight end Dylan on the line, with Riley behind him. The ONLY Bison out there with both is Josh Hayes....they throw the quick pass to Riley in the flat and Dylan is blocking little 'ol Josh Hayes. Hayes fights off the block of the much bigger Dylan and tackles Riley for no gain. They get a field goal out of the drive instead of a TD. It was a RIDICULOUS play by Josh Hayes.
Total blown coverage by the Bison. Should have been an easy TD. 14 made a HELL of a play.
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Who the fuck only has 2 plays that they can call for a 2-point conversion?
My 7th and 8th grade team has WAY more than that, although admittedly we don't really kick other than kickoffs.
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Also, Jeff C. is no Scotty Miller. Man, I still miss his calls. When he got really excited, he sometimes sounded a little like Kermit the Frog.
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Vet70
If JMU had scored and made the 2 point conversion who wins in OT?
JMU's two point conversion would have so outphysicalled NDSU they would have been awarded three points.
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scottietohottie
He was a freshmen and couldn't be that good. Just didn't play any competition this year. He'll crumble under real Duke pressure. That was the plan.
Got a feeling they threw all their chips in to get his first INT.
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steelbison
Total blown coverage in the Bison. Should ah e been an easy TD. 14 made a HELL of a play.
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Yeah, presnap you could see Hayes motioning with his hand for someone else to come over and HELP! But when nobody showed up he had to completely OUTPHYSICAL a massive tight end in Dylan Stapleton to get to his Dylan's Bathroom-Locking brother, Riley, and make the solo tackle.
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Originally Posted by
DCinOK
Watching the game on DVR, JMU's first drive of the second half...they have a 3rd and 2 at about our 10 yard line. They split the Stapleton boys out to the right....tight end Dylan on the line, with Riley behind him. The ONLY Bison out there with both is Josh Hayes....they throw the quick pass to Riley in the flat and Dylan is blocking little 'ol Josh Hayes. Hayes fights off the block of the much bigger Dylan and tackles Riley for no gain. They get a field goal out of the drive instead of a TD. It was a RIDICULOUS play by Josh Hayes.
Josh was money all game long.
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Professor Chaos
Why? When you kick the XP you know you only have to play for one more possession.
Besides you should be playing for 2 more possessions regardless because you'd always prefer to win in regulation over going to OT.
If you need a PAT2 you should try it as early as possible so if you fail you can adjust accordingly.
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Bison Loaf
Really? Oh well, next time I tell it, he'll have been a high-school junior! :biggrin:
No problem. That recruiting class had 3 ND athletes of the year. Travis Beck, Ryan Smith, and Esley Thorton.
Smith played as a true Freshman. The other two redshirted.
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Bison Loaf
Really? Oh well, next time I tell it, he'll have been a high-school junior! :biggrin:
How many more years of eligibility left then after a high school junior year?
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OrygunBison
Also, Jeff C. is no Scotty Miller. Man, I still miss his calls. When he got really excited, he sometimes sounded a little like Kermit the Frog.
Scotty was one of a kind and will never b replaced!!! A bison legend for his voice. I will cut Jeff some slack he does a great job filling an NDSU broadcasters hall of famers shoes, he does get excited, just listen to the 3rd and 23 call at the beginning of the 4th quarter. He does a great job for this program. Not busting your balls because we are all on the same team!!!! Scotty is smiling down on all of bison nation!!!!!!!!!
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Bizon28
Scotty was one of a kind and will never b replaced!!! A bison legend for his voice. I will cut Jeff some slack he does a great job filling an NDSU broadcasters hall of famers shoes, he does get excited, just listen to the 3rd and 23 call at the beginning of the 4th quarter. He does a great job for this program. Not busting your balls because we are all on the same team!!!! Scotty is smiling down on all of bison nation!!!!!!!!!
Jeff’s catch phrase seems to be “GET IN THERE BABY!!!!”
Iunno, I could get used to it...
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For those watching the CFP championship there was an illegal blind side block called on a long run by Clemson in the first quarter. This was easier to pick up because the officials are in normal position and have better coverage. With a fake FG 4 of the 7 officials were out of position to officiate a regular play.
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Congrats on another dominant year by the Bison.
It was strange to see JMU not try to match personnel with NDSU at the LOS especially when all of Cignetti’s rhetoric leading up to the game indicated he wanted to stop the QB run first, second, and third. With NDSU living in 2 TE sets and mixing in 3 TE/FB sets JMU stayed in its base 4-2-5 all game. We never saw a 3rd linebacker on the field and it was comical watching some of the blocks as 190LB safeties tried to fend off blocks from 250lb TE’s.
I’m sure Entz was waiting for JMU to insert a larger personnel grouping which would then open up the passing game, but it never happened.
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bisonaudit
If you need a PAT2 you should try it as early as possible so if you fail you can adjust accordingly.
You don't go for 2 until you absolutely need it. Otherwise, you take your team out of the game.
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James Madison
Congrats on another dominant year by the Bison.
It was strange to see JMU not try to match personnel with NDSU at the LOS especially when all of Cignetti’s rhetoric leading up to the game indicated he wanted to stop the QB run first, second, and third. With NDSU living in 2 TE sets and mixing in 3 TE/FB sets JMU stayed in its base 4-2-5 all game. We never saw a 3rd linebacker on the field and it was comical watching some of the blocks as 190LB safeties tried to fend off blocks from 250lb TE’s.
I’m sure Entz was waiting for JMU to insert a larger personnel grouping which would then open up the passing game, but it never happened.
Thanks for the congratulations. I think you folks got out-coached in this one.
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Bison20
Don’t tell dinouche that cause that’s cheating and unsportsmanlike
Lakes wasn’t at the game—he is either making that up or heard it from an unreliable source. Play happened right in front of me and I heard nothing of the sort.
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td577
You don't go for 2 until you absolutely need it. Otherwise, you take your team out of the game.
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Wrong on every level. Idk why anyone would believe this. It's not complicated to understand.
Assuming the two point conversion fails, would you rather be aware of that reality with 6 minutes left or with 6 seconds left?
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Vet70
Thanks for the congratulations. I think you folks got out-coached in this one.
I agree. It was a head scratcher. You know job #1 is to stop the QB run, but you don’t change anything defensively to match NDSU’s jumbo sets. Also, having no spy on Lance seemed arrogant. The D-line was very good all year, but you can’t expect them to beat 5, 6 or 7 blockers on passing downs and contain a mobile QB.
I don’t blame Entz one bit for running Lance that much. Cignetti refused to match personnel the entire game. I would have enjoyed seeing Lance being forced to pass more because I know he is a good passer. We didn’t get to see much of that and why would we if the QB run is being effective.
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How do you know a fake reverse is legit? There are at least 9 JMU guys who either had to do their job and contain the fake or took false steps because their eyes told them the ball was going the other way. Also when you have 4 or 5 OL/TE's lead blocking way down field and basically getting to the end zone as fast as Sproles, that's a pretty good sign too.
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The performance of the line on that play was unreal.
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Going for two earlier and failing is deflating for the offense and crushes the momentum you have. It's an instance where the math says one thing but the momentum said another.
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ByeSonBusiness
Wrong on every level. Idk why anyone would believe this. It's not complicated to understand.
Assuming the two point conversion fails, would you rather be aware of that reality with 6 minutes left or with 6 seconds left?
You never turn a one score game back into a two score game. There is nothing logical about doing that. You take your chances with 2 when you've worked your way down to the possible tie. It isn't about knowing what to do if you don't make it, it is about narrowing the amount of moves you have to make. 2 scores and a 2 point conversion will always be easier than 3 scores. Always.
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td577
You never turn a one score game back into a two score game. There is nothing logical about doing that. You take your chances with 2 when you've worked your way down to the possible tie. It isn't about knowing what to do if you don't make it, it is about narrowing the amount of moves you have to make. 2 scores and a 2 point conversion will always be easier than 3 scores. Always.
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This is 110% wrong.
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ByeSonBusiness
This is 110% wrong.
Bahahaha. Dabo says you go for 2
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Early 2 pt converted for Clemson. LSU lead down to 3.
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JMU came into the championship game averaging 472 yards of offense per game.
Bison defense held them to 365 yards.
Only West Virginia and Northern Iowa held them to fewer yards (328 and 346)
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IzzyFlexion
JMU came into the championship game averaging 472 yards of offense per game.
Bison defense held them to 365 yards.
Only West Virginia and Northern Iowa held them to fewer yards (328 and 346)
A number of posters have mentioned the awesome Bison offense. It also is worth noting the defense finished 1st in scoring defense and second in total defense behind JMU.
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scottietohottie
Bahahaha. Dabo says you go for 2
What the hell does Dabo know? He has only won two championships and makes like a gazillion dollars.
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westnodak93bison
What the hell does Dabo know? He has only won two championships and makes like a gazillion dollars.
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Completely different scenario, as in time of game, etc.
Had a good time with you at game tho![emoji1303]
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TAILG8R
How does it feel to throw an interception on the last play of your career?
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I would say way worse than it did for SDSU QBs Austin Sumner and Taryn Christion.
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heffray
There’s a cell phone video where you can hear someone yelling “PICK! PICK!” Also I think the radio coverage mentioned this, but maybe that’s what Lakes was claiming, I didn’t hear it. The video with that audio is posted in here somewhere, tho...
Why does anyone care if someone yelled "pick" or not? The guys on the field dont hear that lmao.
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ByeSonBusiness
Why does anyone care if someone yelled "pick" or not? The guys on the field dont hear that lmao.
I removed my comment because Charlie was talking about something else and I misunderstood.
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Still haven't found the trophy presentation on youtube. Is this Cignetti the son of the Cignetti who was coach of Indiana State of PA when the Bison hammered them in a DII Title game?
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bloodmakesthegrassgrow
Still haven't found the trophy presentation on youtube. Is this Cignetti the son of the Cignetti who was coach of Indiana State when the Bison hammered them in a DII Title game?
Yes.
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td577
You never turn a one score game back into a two score game. There is nothing logical about doing that. You take your chances with 2 when you've worked your way down to the possible tie. It isn't about knowing what to do if you don't make it, it is about narrowing the amount of moves you have to make. 2 scores and a 2 point conversion will always be easier than 3 scores. Always.
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This is most definitely wrong.
In a spot where you are down 15, always go for 2 first. If you go for 1 right away, what are you playing for? A last second td where you are 50/50 to tie or lose with no time left? You have no incentive to rush it since best you can do is tie and hope other team doesnt have time to score.
If you go for 2 and make it, you are in same scenario as above except instead of a 50/50 chance at tie with td, its 95% (or 50/50 chance for WIN if you go for 2 again)
If you go for 2 and miss it at 50/50, now you know you need to rush your next score because you need one more.
Limiting coinflips at end of games (a 2pt conversion) and knowing exactly what pace you need to play is by far the most important thing.
Going for 1 after first td is by FAR the worst decision and just another reason why JMU was outmatched on the coaching front.
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I was very surprised to see how little Kobe contributed after the three week layoff. He must still be suffering from the concussion suffered earlier in the playoffs, he just doesn't seem to have the same explosiveness he had earlier in the year. I realize we were heavy on the Trey for this game but Kobe seemed to be a shadow of himself. I, for one, am hoping for a full recovery for this very special young RB.