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Originally Posted by mnriverbison

It feels weird to say, but that looks like an over/under on regular season wins at 10.5 and I think I'd take the under. Losing Bohl and multiple NFL players is not free. Granted we demolished literally everyone in the playoffs so could conceivably fall back and still win 11 games, but that is a lot to lose and still dominate.

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Good eye. My model suggests just a smidgen under 10.5, again based on Sagarin's preseason start values which we know next to nothing about how he arrives at. Also, the start values are the same for all of the models he presents contrary to what I may have implied yesterday.

I always enjoy your points on this stuff audit, keep 'em coming.

the backups more than held their own in the playoffs. This year is going to be another fun one.

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Originally Posted by reformedUNDfan

the backups more than held their own in the playoffs. This year is going to be another fun one.

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Exactly we were extremely deep last year

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Originally Posted by NDSUFan_Sav

Exactly we were extremely deep last year *

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*TWTGW (that's what this guy wishes)

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Not being a homer. But I don't see the Bison losing more than one game in the season until the semifinals or national championship game. If the Bison don't make the final four, I would be shocked. THEY DON'T HAVE TO DOMINATE. They just have to win their games. Their team was stacked last year. IF their quarterback stays healthy, they have a legit chance to win another national championship. I am not saying they will, but the odds are at least 4:1.

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Originally Posted by Strongman

Not being a homer. But I don't see the Bison losing more than one game in the season until the semifinals or national championship game. If the Bison don't make the final four, I would be shocked. THEY DON'T HAVE TO DOMINATE. They just have to win their games. Their team was stacked last year. IF their quarterback stays healthy, they have a legit chance to win another national championship. I am not saying they will, but the odds are at least 4:1.

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4:1? How did you figure that? I'm thinking 50:50. Either they will or they won't. :p

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Originally Posted by IzzyFlexion

*TWTGW (that's what this guy wishes)

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Since when did you become a teacher?

Great thread, great data and I also look forward to this "type" of thread. ISU will be a great test for this coaching staff and players. Sagarin and Massey seem to think it'll be a good game and I agree.

10-2 and playoffs is a great year for most, funny how it's the floor for us at this point.

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Originally Posted by TateMosersneighbor

Great thread, great data and I also look forward to this "type" of thread. ISU will be a great test for this coaching staff and players. Sagarin and Massey seem to think it'll be a good game and I agree.

10-2 and playoffs is a great year for most, funny how it's the floor for us at this point.

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ISU fans are happy if they finish above .500. Reading threads at Cyclone Fanatic is depressing........they already accept the fact they will likely have another bad season, but "hope" for something better.