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Originally Posted by
NDB2
None, they actually pay for theirs AND have the ability/incentive to sell/trade it.
There is no cost to students to attend OR not attend but can still waste a ticket.
We pay plenty for ours too.
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Re: I'll be the first to apologize for the student section
Really.
How much does a student pay for a football ticket?
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Originally Posted by
NDB2
Really.
How much does a student pay for a football ticket?
Student fees. Plenty of money.
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How much?
How much does a student who goes to a football game pay versus a student who does not?
How much does a student who gets the last ticket to the Homecoming football game pay? How about the next student who does not?
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Re: I'll be the first to apologize for the student section
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Originally Posted by
NDB2
How much?
How much does a student who goes to a football game pay versus a student who does not?
How much does a student who gets the last ticket to the Homecoming football game pay? How about the next student who does not?
I'd be glad to pay for football tickets if it meant I didn't pay any money to the athletics programs via the money the school gets from me.
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As well as all the clubs you aren't a member of?
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Re: I'll be the first to apologize for the student section
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Originally Posted by
NDB2
How much?
How much does a student who goes to a football game pay versus a student who does not?
How much does a student who gets the last ticket to the Homecoming football game pay? How about the next student who does not?
Actually the student fees for athletics are a screw job for a student. What if you don't use or want to go to the tickets? Let's say that is half the student base. So they are taxed and get nothing for it. Additionally on the flip side students will say there is more than 4,000 demand for tickets. So there is a portion of the student base that wants tickets, pays for the right to ticket and can't get tickets. This is worse than joe fan that wants tickets but can't get tickets because that doesn't cost them anything.
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To all those complaining 'bout students....They payed for what amounts to season tickets when they paid to attend school. Complaining about how they use this privilege is no different then me demanding your car because I don't believe you use it enuff.
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The student activity fee pays for a lot more than athletics.
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kab1one
Actually the student fees for athletics are a screw job for a student. What if you don't use or want to go to the tickets? Let's say that is half the student base. So they are taxed and get nothing for it. Additionally on the flip side students will say there is more than 4,000 demand for tickets. So there is a portion of the student base that wants tickets, pays for the right to ticket and can't get tickets. This is worse than joe fan that wants tickets but can't get tickets because that doesn't cost them anything.
I agree.
Except they don't pay for the right to a ticket/that's the point.
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Originally Posted by
kab1one
Actually the student fees for athletics are a screw job for a student. What if you don't use or want to go to the tickets? Let's say that is half the student base. So they are taxed and get nothing for it. Additionally on the flip side students will say there is more than 4,000 demand for tickets. So there is a portion of the student base that wants tickets, pays for the right to ticket and can't get tickets. This is worse than joe fan that wants tickets but can't get tickets because that doesn't cost them anything.
I do agree it sucks for students that don't use the athletic tickets. That being said, I never go to the Union and use any of the services that they offer through student fees there. There are people who never go to the wellness center, but they don't get their money back. The athletic fans who are students, students who use the union and students who use the Wellness Center all benefit from everyone contributing a little bit instead of some paying through the nose. Not trying to be argumentative but in my opinion it's for the benefit of the non-hermit student.
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Originally Posted by
NDB2
I agree.
Except they don't pay for the right to a ticket/that's the point.
With the payment of the fee they have access to 1 of 4,000 football tickets, and basketball, etc. The fee covers many things, but one of them is admission to athletic events. It was talked about at length on another thread previously.
The problem with NDSU football tickets is there is no continuity. You might be paying $25/ticket whereas the person next to you is effectively $500 a ticket. There are so many deals cut for NDSU tickets and grandfather this, grandfather that it would make your head spin. New AD should take over the tickets and just say the fees related to sections, 1, 2 are X, section 3, 4 are y and so forth.
All non team maker seats are now subject to the same fees or a sliding scale since the seats aren't as good. Just because you are grandfather'd (whatever that means) doesn't mean you should have 3 row on the 45 yard line for 200 bucks a ticket for the year. This isn't the rule, but the exception, but an exception, but just goes to show the disparity that exists.
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Originally Posted by
kab1one
With the payment of the fee they have access to 1 of 4,000 football tickets, and basketball, etc. The fee covers many things, but one of them is admission to athletic events. It was talked about at length on another thread previously.
The problem with NDSU football tickets is there is no continuity. You might be paying $25/ticket whereas the person next to you is effectively $500 a ticket. There are so many deals cut for NDSU tickets and grandfather this, grandfather that it would make your head spin. New AD should take over the tickets and just say the fees related to sections, 1, 2 are X, section 3, 4 are y and so forth.
All non team maker seats are now subject to the same fees or a sliding scale since the seats aren't as good. Just because you are grandfather'd (whatever that means) doesn't mean you should have 3 row on the 45 yard line for 200 bucks a ticket for the year. This isn't the rule, but the exception, but an exception, but just goes to show the disparity that exists.
Spot on. Spot On. David Crum wanted to do that, a change. You see how far that got him.
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So how much does the athletic department get from student fees?
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kab1one
With the payment of the fee they have access to 1 of 4,000 football tickets, and basketball, etc.
If the fee provides a right to a ticket, how come students go without for high demand games? Oh, that's right. It doesn't.
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El_Chapo
Spot on. Spot On. David Crum wanted to do that, a change. You see how far that got him.
Use your PSL example at new viking staduim. You want a good seat, you pay for it. Guy next to pays the same.
As more people want tickets, and find out how disjointed the current system, complaining and related bad press will occur and changes will be made.
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JMB
So how much does the athletic department get from student fees?
About $1 million per year.
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The reason some are grandfathered in is because they've been there for 40 years straight, regardless of how good the team is or is not. It's tough to force a fan like that out. From what I understand they are gradually evening things out.
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JMB
So how much does the athletic department get from student fees?
Probably enough to make sure the athletics budget is balanced...
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Ndsu84
The reason some are grandfathered in is because they've been there for 40 years straight, regardless of how good the team is or is not. It's tough to force a fan like that out. From what I understand they are gradually evening things out.
really? maybe in 1983 that's fine.
its 2014 a ticket down there should be $100/game & $10,000/year
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El_Chapo
Spot on. Spot On. David Crum wanted to do that, a change. You see how far that got him.
Link? Source?
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Ndsu84
The reason some are grandfathered in is because they've been there for 40 years straight, regardless of how good the team is or is not. It's tough to force a fan like that out. From what I understand they are gradually evening things out.
So I know someone that sits in great seats. $800 a year, two seats to football and basket. Had seats for 25 years. Spends $20k over lifetime.
Guy next to him, $2,500 a year per seat.
Grandfather'd guy falls behind pretty quick.
It is what it is.
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Originally Posted by
Ndsu84
The reason some are grandfathered in is because they've been there for 40 years straight, regardless of how good the team is or is not. It's tough to force a fan like that out. From what I understand they are gradually evening things out.
So I know someone that sits in great seats. $800 a year, two seats to football and basket. Had seats for 25 years. Spends $20k over lifetime.
Guy next to him, $2,500 a year per seat.
Grandfather'd guy falls behind pretty quick.
It is what it is.
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Originally Posted by
Ndsu84
The reason some are grandfathered in is because they've been there for 40 years straight, regardless of how good the team is or is not. It's tough to force a fan like that out. From what I understand they are gradually evening things out.
Yep. But the piss and moaners will always piss and moan. Same shit from these people just a different day.
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56BISON73
Yep. But the piss and moaners will always piss and moan. Same shit from these people just a different day.
Like I said, doesn't impact me one bit. I lost think it silly on the lost opportunity. Its the program that is missing out on the opportunity, NDSU athletics in 3 years, 5 years when they aren't the cool kid on the block (it always happens, its a cycle) will sit back and wish, we banked a bit more coin. No different than ND right now. People bitch and moan about the 10-12 billion in the various rainy day funds, but be thankful they banked it when they had the chance.
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kab1one
Like I said, doesn't impact me one bit. I lost think it silly on the lost opportunity. Its the program that is missing out on the opportunity, NDSU athletics in 3 years, 5 years when they aren't the cool kid on the block (it always happens, its a cycle) will sit back and wish, we banked a bit more coin. No different than ND right now. People bitch and moan about the 10-12 billion in the various rainy day funds, but be thankful they banked it when they had the chance.
Yawn.........
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344Johnson
Probably enough to make sure the athletics budget is balanced...
Yep. It's always on the backs of you poor, hardworking students. I feel sorry for you. I really do
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students just coughed up $12 million for an aquatics center, they can afford the $1 million a year they give to NDSU athletics (NDSU athletics - basketball & football exposure will help them get jobs out in the real world!)
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Hail bison
Yep. It's always on the backs of you poor, hardworking students. I feel sorry for you. I really do
If the boosters walk, you have an intramural team. Students pay some bills but the grown ups keep the program running.
These kids act like they're the first ones ever to pay this stuff. We did it too.
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Bison 4 Life
If the boosters walk, you have an intramural team. Students pay some bills but the grown ups keep the program running.
These kids act like they're the first ones ever to pay this stuff. We did it too.
Yes. You do realize I was being a smartass?
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Hail bison
Yes. You do realize I was being a smartass?
Shocking.... :rofl:
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Hail bison
Yes. You do realize I was being a smartass?
You could easily have been sympathetic, you're good like that.
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Hail bison
Yes. You do realize I was being a smartass?
:eeek::eek::D
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BisonFan02
Shocking.... :rofl:
Not me! :biggrin:
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Bison 4 Life
You could easily have been sympathetic, you're good like that.
Should have used purple
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Originally Posted by
Hail bison
Should have used purple
Just let my comment stand for any of these current whiny bitches
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Bison 4 Life
Just let my comment stand for any of these current whiny bitches
I'm with you
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BisonFan02
I find this gif entertaining.
