Mountain West is the #1 choice
MAC is the #2 choice
Sun belt if first 2 fail.
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Mountain West is the #1 choice
MAC is the #2 choice
Sun belt if first 2 fail.
B12 is the only choice. The rest represent mediocrity. Go Big or go home.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Now, go get the invite.
Might I present a small counter-argument? I think it's pretty clear that going to the Big 12 straight from FCS is just not going to happen. But what if there were discussions between interested parties like NDSU, ESPN & the Big 12? What if they said (internally) that the Big 12 might be an option if NDSU were to prove itself in a lower FBS conference first. Say, the MAC? Maybe five years to become a little more than just competitive? Contend for the conference title a time or two?Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueBisonRock
Now I'm not saying any of this is happening. In fact, I'm a lot less certain of ESPN backing us in anything, much less something as big as a conference invite, than I was before the second GameDay visit. But I'm just asking if you would view a move to the MAC(or MWC or even SBC) as acceptable if it was the first step toward a Big 12 move? Just curious for your answer.
Lakes: Do not for one second view this post as me supporting your views. I don't. Not in the least. You and I are worlds apart on this topic, and I'll thank you to not drag me into another one of your lying babbles. I'm sorry, I meant your calmly reasoned, slight exaggerations.
There's no lying, it's speculation. Hammer you're the man
If Texas/Oklahoma goes to SEC the big 12 would look different.
Or you get to the MWC/MAC like now, succeed, then 5 years later use as springboard to big 12
It's be nice to have a stadium plan in place in case something happens.
All this is moot if NDSU admin isn't out selling and proactively pimpin NDSU!
You will still have some shit bowls when playoffs first expand.Quote:
Originally Posted by natstar1
I said actual attendance. MAC schools have inflated #s for years. Research and look up articles on subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by missingnumber7
Why? We stay in Summit for all sports except football.Quote:
Originally Posted by missingnumber7
This guy is beat writer for the trees.
https://twitter.com/tribstartodd/sta...94180443688961
Sent using both a Speak-n-Spell and an Etch-a-Sketch
Excelllent..........no wait MWC not MVC. #idiots.
CMU, EMU have definately inflated, but NIU's are fairly legit, and I wouldn't totally doubt Buffalo's either. Also ironic when playoffs come to NDSU the attendance drops because they count through the gate attendance. Just sayin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
The NCAA only care's about reported numbers, and you stated that NDSU would be #1 when the fact is we don't have the capacity to compete with some of these schools.
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Originally Posted by missingnumber7
Not entirely accurate statement here. There are other exclusions. Just sayin..
Answer this question. If there are NO invites to any conferences even after extensive pr campaigns what would you have NDSU do?Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
What if no conference will have us?Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
If you're dead set going FBS you campaign year after year the conferences you want an invite from.Quote:
Originally Posted by 56BISON73
It worked for UND in finally getting a game with us.
But they want to move up NOW.Quote:
Originally Posted by natstar1
oh my the UND game? That was going to happen. It wasnt a question of if ,it was just a question of when.
North Dakota State joining the Sun Belt for football only is not as absurd as it sounds especially if they move up with teams from MVC and/or Big Sky. NDSU, Northern Iowa, South Dakota, SDSU, Montana, Montana State, and Eastern Washington join the Sun Belt or some combination thereof. Sun Belt protects itself with a Super Conference and a title game. Hence, the aforementioned teams along with Idaho and New Mexico State form the West Division of the Conference.
The idea is not as absurd as the Big Sky Commissioner has talked smack about the whole conference moving up--which, in my opinion, is not plausible. Conferences expansion and the assimilation of teams for protection is going to happen.
Within 5 years, the Big Five will probably be down to 3 or 4 conferences. (You know the SEC is going to keep expanding.) And the other 5 conferences will probably be down to 3 or 4 conferences.
As a practical matter NDSU would be in a "local" regionalized conference (West Division of the Sun Belt). But would have to travel for the annual Sun Belt title game and the occasional East Division opponent.
Obviously you havent read SV over at SS. The only way NDSU goes FBS is by joining the Big Fluffy. Their commissioner supposedly has the inside track on this maneuver. Thats why GT left because he couldnt stand the thought of being in the same conference with the UN-. S our current pres told him to leave. Hey he. has it on good authority that this is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
Oh nice try.
So now instead of getting one team a conference invite, you want to get an entire conference? How is that any easier?
This just keeps getting better doesnt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BisonNation11
I didn't think it could, but I've been proven wrong once again. Let me try... SEC, PUMP IT UP!Quote:
Originally Posted by 56BISON73
NEW NEWS ON NDSU TO FBS:
http://conferenceexpansion.com
With only ten schools and Karl Benson wanting a conference championship in the Sun Belt, he would most likely petition the president to take North Dakota State as a football-only member
2 divisions:
Arkansas State
UL Lafayette
South Alabama
UL Monroe
Appalachian State
Liberty
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
Texas St
Troy
Idaho
NDSU
NDSU with Idaho, rivals Georgia Southern and Troy (d2 days) and easy flights to Atlanta and Texas
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Originally Posted by El_Chapo
ahhh THE article doesnt say that.
I did hear people on the radio wondering if the Big XII will be looking to add 2 more teams so they can have a conference championship game to increase the chances of making the playoffs.
You guys don't have to PM me his stuff, but I have to defend his lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by 56BISON73
Are you blind? It's towards the bottom. Shut up.
If I was one of the presidents or the commissioner, it would be a tough choice but I would choose UT-San Antonio. The facilities and fan base alone would tip the scales in their favor. C-USA would have to fill the void with a western school they would choose between New Mexico State and Texas State. New Mexico State would get the nod because C-USA needs a rival for UTEP that is in close proximity to them. With only ten schools and Karl Benson wanting a conference championship in the Sun Belt, he would most likely petition the president to take North Dakota State as a football-only member while adding Liberty or Eastern Kentucky as a full-member. Another alternative altogether would be Air Force staying in the MWC and breaking this chain of events
Hip hip hooray. Some Sioux Volley type blogger throws together a rambling treatise about conference realignment that mentions NDSU.
Who knows. Maybe the Sun Belt will come calling. The prospect of playing the teams in that conference for a chance to play in an obscure Bowl game doesn't seem exciting. That conference is like the misfits of college football.
I'll trust the new AD and Dean to make that decision.
SamQuote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
You are correct. That little snippet wasnt in the the main talking points of NDSU in another part of that website.. I was wrong.
But If you want to shut me up you know where I tailgate. Feel free to come over and try.
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Originally Posted by NorthernBison
:biggrin::biggrin: Ditto. But they mentioned NDSU so its gotta be true----right?
Thats like saying lakes far flung scenarios are also news.
How old are we boys meet me behind the school after the bell ringsQuote:
Originally Posted by 56BISON73
A lot of shit got settled in that scenario. Doubt he has the nuts to do so at any age.Quote:
Originally Posted by unbison
Confront about what him wanting to go fbs and you not wanting to wtf .... How absurd....Quote:
Originally Posted by 56BISON73
No it has nothing to do with his FBS BS. Really????? Has more to do with his vulgar pms and threats.Quote:
Originally Posted by unbison
Absolutely absurd....pat time to grow up..... Your just as guilty as him of making this absurd it's bs
[QUOTE=unbison;930206]Absolutely absurd....pat time to grow up..... Your just as guilty as him of making this absurd it's bs[/QUOTE
So he told me to shut up and I am being absurd? Yeah ok you go with that.
wow. just wow. and im the 1 who gets banned.
theres a reason the ignore feature works.
Then use it.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
So you like the idea of moving up for this...games against a team that isn't even remotely driveable for a road game for 90% of the fanbase and thats the closest game. The only good part of a schedule like that is that the visitors sections tickets would go on sale the week of the game and more people could go because they sure as heck aren't coming to Fargo.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
With us moving to MN in the future we certainly would miss more away games. All of those are a long haul. Certainly not in our recruiting foot print.Quote:
Originally Posted by missingnumber7
I would feel for road in that situation...TSCF would have to teach him to travel hack.Quote:
Originally Posted by 56BISON73
Whats funny is even if I stayed in AR most of those games would still be a long haul.Quote:
Originally Posted by missingnumber7