Fall enrollment ndsu

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Originally Posted by TransAmBison

NDSU turned it around? I guess I don't share that optimism. And in today's world, there is nothing wrong with having 1/3 virtual.

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NDSU doesn't want 1/3 virtual. Neither does Bismarck. And if most of them only last for 1 or 2 years ...

Try to be patient folks, that is assuming you really care (I know TAB does). DB left a major mess, and it is slowly but surely being turned around (and without turning into a virtual school). The goal this year was to turn it around, and they did. If you don't see a major jump next year, then you can go start sharpening your farming tools

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Originally Posted by LefseBison

Give my regards to your colleagues in Recruiting.

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spoken like a true troll

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

NDSU doesn't want 1/3 virtual. Neither does Bismarck. And if most of them only last for 1 or 2 years ...

Try to be patient folks, that is assuming you really care (I know TAB does). DB left a major mess, and it is slowly but surely being turned around (and without turning into a virtual school). The goal this year was to turn it around, and they did. If you don't see a major jump next year, then you can go start sharpening your farming tools

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I don't want NDSU turning into a virtual school (as in the majority virtual), but I think to be competitive they need to diversify. Plenty of people in the workforce that are going back to school to further their education (getting it paid by their company). I know at my company many of us have gotten another degree...and I don't know of one that went to NDSU for it.

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

And if most of them only last for 1 or 2 years ...

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Crazy that UND managed to have the highest retention rate in the history of the NDUS system since it started being tracked in 1990 with all those folks quitting after 1-2 years...

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Originally Posted by TransAmBison

I don't want NDSU turning into a virtual school (as in the majority virtual), but I think to be competitive they need to diversify. Plenty of people in the workforce that are going back to school to further their education (getting it paid by their company). I know at my company many of us have gotten another degree...and I don't know of one that went to NDSU for it.

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They are installing on-line degrees in engineering at NDSU right now. The prereqs just went live this year (intro physics) and are well subscribed. It is asynchronous, meaning both physical and virtual options are available for every student. Again, DB really screwed up on this front, and it baffles me how many alums still defend him

NDSU will be up this year, although not by much. Next year will be the real test, but based on what I'm hearing the fall cohort for 25 will be up 30% from this year. NDSU is installing targeted on-line programs, so the numbers will never be what they are GF. This is by design

Wrt the troll between our posts, all I know is what I hear through the grapevine from people who teach up there. We'll know the truth soon enough

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

They are installing on-line degrees in engineering at NDSU right now. The prereqs just went live this year (intro physics) and are well subscribed. It is asynchronous, meaning both physical and virtual options are available for every student. Again, DB really screwed up on this front, and it baffles me how many alums still defend him

NDSU will be up this year, although not by much. Next year will be the real test, but based on what I'm hearing the fall cohort for 25 will be up 30% from this year. NDSU is installing targeted on-line programs, so the numbers will never be what they are GF. This is by design

Wrt the troll between our posts, all I know is what I hear through the grapevine from people who teach up there. We'll know the truth soon enough

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My understanding is that UND hired Pearson, or a similar company, to develop their initial online programs, with the caveat that the system they put in place could be used for UND faculty to continue to develop similar programs. This did two things: It ensured consistency across courses and across programs in delivery style, and it put UND in a position to expand online programming using in-house faculty rather than farming everything out. This was very smart, on both counts, and they're clearly seeing good results. I agree that NDSU doesn't want 1/4 to 1/3 of their students fully online--we've always used online as a way to supplement face to face rather than replace it--but we've got to step it up, get back to where we were when we were the leader in this area.

What about all the dorms and whatnot? I hope they stop building them as they won't need as much. Anecdotally, I do not see the volume of students out on campus like I used to. Maybe because of on-line. MY GOD, do they ever look up from their cell phones?

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Originally Posted by LefseBison

What about all the dorms and whatnot? I hope they stop building them as they won't need as much. Anecdotally, I do not see the volume of students out on campus like I used to. Maybe because of on-line. MY GOD, do they ever look up from their cell phones?

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This fall looks pretty good to me--tons of students in the union, on the grounds, etc. With the two LLC's and the new Cater hall, we have plenty of really good dorm space for students. We could start looking at repurposing some of the older ones that don't have the amenities students want--could be good research space, especially with VPRC's push to expand funded research in the social/behavioral sciences and the humanities...

And that's big news....to quote:

"Researchers broke a 14 year-old record by earning $142.5M in external funding awards in FY24. Besides breaking that previous all-time high, they also surpassed FY23's awards total of $80.9M by 76%!
�� All NDSU colleges experienced growth in awards received.
�� The largest component of FY24 awards came from federal sources at $114.5 million or 79% of the total of all funding."

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Originally Posted by GCWaters

This fall looks pretty good to me--tons of students in the union, on the grounds, etc. With the two LLC's and the new Cater hall, we have plenty of really good dorm space for students. We could start looking at repurposing some of the older ones that don't have the amenities students want--could be good research space, especially with VPRC's push to expand funded research in the social/behavioral sciences and the humanities...

And that's big news....to quote:

"Researchers broke a 14 year-old record by earning $142.5M in external funding awards in FY24. Besides breaking that previous all-time high, they also surpassed FY23's awards total of $80.9M by 76%!
💫 All NDSU colleges experienced growth in awards received.
💫 The largest component of FY24 awards came from federal sources at $114.5 million or 79% of the total of all funding."

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Hhmm ... lets see. 2024 - 14 = 2010

So if I am reading this correctly, we just beat the old earmarks of the Chapman era, but with competitive funding instead of pork. I would say that's pretty damn good

In response to your previous comment, so far the fall 25 cohort suggests that we are indeed turning it around, and with only modest growth in on-line programs

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Originally Posted by TransAmBison

Disturbing trend we've noticed the last couple months. Our kids are juniors in high school so they are getting information packets from universities. They get stuff from UND at least once a week, sometimes more. They have gotten multiple items from a wide range of of universities from all over...even couple Ivy league schools. They have gotten 1 thing from NDSU. One. Both kids still have NDSU as their #1 pick so far, but that interest is starting to wane for them. Even my wife and I who want nothing to do with UND admit that UND is killing it as far as getting their name out there, and NDSU is doing next to nothing. Really looks like one university knows what they are doing and one can't get out of its own way. Really sad.

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That is weird. My daughter in NC is getting multiple mailings from NDSU.