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Originally Posted by WRSDBison

BS. I want 15-0

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Based on the sports network's projected bracket...

15-0 33.7%

lol(elo) chess says we are #26 lol.

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Originally Posted by NDSUstudent

Not that it means anything since the "predictor" is the best but we did jump to 41 in his sagarin rating and 26 in ELO-CHESS.

That just goes to show how messed up the BCS is, NDSU is almost a top 25 team in one of it's rating systems.

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Originally Posted by Hammersmith

Yeah, it's total BS. I just ignore it and suggest everyone else do the same. While I list them in my list, I actually consider it a top-four and not a top-five. The Great West just has too many non-DI teams on their schedules and it completely skews their results. They are just a mathematical oddity.



And I sometimes get the feeling that a few posters wonder why I use the Sagarin numbers that I do and not the main column that everyone else does. Especially when the Bison are way up at 41 in the combined standings. It's because of that damned Elo Chess rating that the BCS forces Sagarin to use. As of last night, the Bison are the number 26 team in the country according to that rating. Does anyone really believe that we should be sniffing the top-25? The same top-25 that has LSU at the top? I surely don't. We're got a damned good team, but not that good. But a rating that high is what happens when you ignore just about everything except the W/L record. By comparison, last week the Sagarin numbers I use predicted we would beat Indiana State by 9.2. We actually beat them by 9. I think I'll keep using the number I have been and let the BCS keep using the BS numbers.

BTW, Bison over YSU by 2 TDs.


edit: Do'h. Took me too long to post again.

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This just in from correspondent Twentysix:

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Originally Posted by Twentysix

lol(elo) chess says we are #26 lol.

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SAY WHAT???????

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Originally Posted by MNLonghorn10

every bcs teams need 5+ losses, then ndsu is in the rose bowl:)

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I know i'd love to lose 52-10 on national tv :)

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Originally Posted by 344Johnson

I know i'd love to lose 52-10 on national tv :)

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itd be worse. much worse, trust me.

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Originally Posted by BisonNeil

Great West conference #2? Give me a break.

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Yeah, that's totally inflated. One look at the strength of schedule stat between North Dakota State (supposedly #155) and North Dakota (they of the non-scholly Drake and three NAIA teams, two of which are transitioning to D-II, supposedly at #145) tells you something's not right, assuming you're of sound mind.

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Originally Posted by Tatanka

Yeah, that's totally inflated. One look at the strength of schedule stat between North Dakota State (supposedly #155) and North Dakota (they of the non-scholly Drake and three NAIA teams, two of which are transitioning to D-II, supposedly at #145) tells you something's not right, assuming you're of sound mind.

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Yeah, pretty sad when by the end of the season will have played 4 possibly 5 top 25 FCS teams along with a BCS and the who fans still think they had a tougher schedule

SIU #16
UNI #2
ISU-B #16
ISU-R is currently ranked and really hot
YSU is #23 in the GPI along with 5 other valley teams

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Originally Posted by Tatanka

Yeah, that's totally inflated. One look at the strength of schedule stat between North Dakota State (supposedly #155) and North Dakota (they of the non-scholly Drake and three NAIA teams, two of which are transitioning to D-II, supposedly at #145) tells you something's not right, assuming you're of sound mind.

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Non d1 opponents aren't included in the SOS calc. It's a limitation in the formula.

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Originally Posted by bisonaudit

Non d1 opponents aren't included in the SOS calc. It's a limitation in the formula.

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Precisely. A point that's often overlooked by the mouthbreathers.

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Originally Posted by Tatanka

Precisely. A point that's often overlooked by the mouthbreathers.

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It's their way of skewing stats in their favor...