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tony
11-18-2004, 07:35 PM
Turns out that Bisonville's all-time win-loss record against Montana was wrong. The series is tied at 3-3 with Montana picking up wins in 1921 and 1941. Looks like the NDSU media guide has the same problem.

On the plus side, NDSU is two games closer to evening their record with Montana State :)

The Montana State record vs North Dakota State might still be wrong because I think NDSU and Montana State disagree on the number of times the two teams have met.

Bisonfan01234
11-18-2004, 08:30 PM
Games before 73 don't count. End of story.l

TheBisonator
11-18-2004, 09:00 PM
In your sick sad little world, they don't.

Bisonfan01234
11-18-2004, 09:13 PM
College football wasn't even popular until the 90's.

KTF
11-18-2004, 09:24 PM
BF01234
WHAT THE F#$% ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!! I WISH YOU WOULD GET THE H*&# OFF THIS BOARD!!

roadwarrior
11-18-2004, 09:29 PM
I guess 01234 wasnt even born until the 90's, thereby explaining his reasoning.

JBB
11-18-2004, 09:43 PM
My great uncle was captain of the 1915 BISON. That was a full 58 yrs before the games counted! My oh My. :P

WYOBISONMAN
11-18-2004, 10:39 PM
I was at NDSU in the 1980s and I can assure you that NDSU Football was a huge event on campus, in Fargo, and indeed the entire state od North Dakota! :-/

Bisonfan01234
11-18-2004, 10:44 PM
Of course it was, NDSU was a football school.

I'm talking about the broad, on TV 19days in a row sense.

BisonFan
11-19-2004, 12:16 AM
Tony, please pull the plug on 01234!

BisonMav
11-19-2004, 12:49 AM
College football wasn't even popular until the 90's.
This is the wildest thing I have ever heard you say. Have you ever heard of Knute Rockne, Bernie Bierman, Pop Warner, Jim Thorpe, Amos Alonzo Stagg, Bronko Nagurski, Nile Kinnick, Four Horsemen, etc..... College football has been very popular since College football began. The game of the century was in 1971, Nebraska vs Oklahome. Sports Illustrated has had a College football issue since the 1950s.

Bisonfan01234
11-19-2004, 02:49 AM
So?

How much TV money did they pull in back then?

Until the 90's and the BCS, college football was fine and dandy, but afterward it was a cash cow.

BisonMav
11-19-2004, 03:10 AM
So?

How much TV money did they pull in back then?

Until the 90's and the BCS, college football was fine and dandy, but afterward it was a cash cow.

It's all relative to the times. There was no TV in 1908 when Jim Thorpe played. I should have learned, you can't argue with an idiot and expect to win.

Bisonfan01234
11-19-2004, 03:59 AM
So it doesn't matter what happened before the era of big TV college football except to local fans.

BisonMav
11-19-2004, 12:58 PM
So it doesn't matter what happened before the era of big TV college football except to local fans.
How did a couple local Carlisle College guys become famous Nationwide? How did Knute Rockne become famous outside South Bend? Newspaper, Radio, National Publications all have been around for a long time.

Bisonfan01234
11-19-2004, 02:06 PM
But the game didn't make an serious money until the big tv era.

runtheoption
11-19-2004, 03:58 PM
BisonZERO1234, first you say games didn't count before 1973. WHAT?? Ever heard of Michigan v Ohio State, Oklahoma v Nebraska, Army v Navy, Harvard v Yale or Army, Notre Dame v everyone and last but not least NDSU v UND? Believe me, games counted before 1973. Then you say something idiotic about the lack of popularity of college football before the 1990's. Refer to my previous sentences. Those games and storied rivalries captivated many people all across the nation. After realizing how f***ing stupid that was, you change your line of reasoning (and I use "reasoning" in the most liberal sense) to say, "B-b-b-b-b-but football didn't start making money until the 90's and the BCS." How the hell does that show that college football wasn't popular before the 90's?

BisonZERO1234, it's time for you to go home now.

BisonMav
11-19-2004, 04:23 PM
Why did colleges pay players as far back as 1890's to play for their school, if they were not making money?

Bisonfan01234
11-19-2004, 04:55 PM
If it was popular before the 90s, then why did it take so long for the TV companies to start cashing in on it?

I will say without hesitation that it was popular before the 90s, even before 73, within the college's circle of fans.

Even at a school like Michigan, you're getting the same 100000 or so fans coming to the games each week. 100000 out of 250 million doesn't mean squat.

Being able to package college football to the everyday person who's watching TV is what distinguishes football from being a niche sport to a publicly popular sport. That has only happened since the 90s.

JBB
11-19-2004, 06:12 PM
College football has been on TV forever. *Anybody remember wide world of sports or maybe Notre Dame highlights. *Its also been on the radio since shortly after Marconi invented it. *Are you being stupid on purpose?

In Utah they call behavior like yours ignorant. *That means your going out of your to not get along.

Bisonfan01234
11-19-2004, 07:03 PM
Being on it once in a while hardly means they made the big bucks they make today off of it then.

GFBison
12-08-2004, 05:17 AM
Where were those games going to be broadcast?

Some points of interest:

ESPN's first broadcast, Sports Center was in 1979 and shown twice daily 7 and 11 pm.

ESPN's 1984 Olympic budget was $240,000 dollars for everything.

Vitale broadcast the first NCAA basketball game on ESPN in 1979.

In 1989, ESPN and Major League Baseball reached a $400,000 agreement under which ESPN would televise 175 games a year. I guess baseball wasn't popular until after 1989.

ESPN gave sports an opportunity to evolve into what it is today.