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tony
06-04-2004, 07:49 PM
I've been trying to compile all the scores for all current DI-AA teams since 1973 and that's proving kind of hard.

However, I do have enough data for this, a comparision between average enrollments for four selected years:

YearDivCntEnroll*Grad

1973 NCAA I-A 119 22,0085,706
1973 NCAA II 130 9,8711,930

1983 NCAA I-A 102 24,3146,019
1983 NCAA I-AA 80 11,2522,453
1983 NCAA II 114 7,8261,544

1993 NCAA I-A 107 24,0925,895
1993 NCAA I-AA 112 10,4952,478
1993 NCAA II 140 5,9641,119

2003 NCAA I-A 117 23,8025,859
2003 NCAA I-AA 126 10,0672,276
2003 NCAA II 148 5,578913


* The enrollment figures are the most recent ones, not the ones corresponding to 1973, 1983, etc.

What I gather from this is that DI-A and DI-AA schools have attracted the same size of schools over time. DII's original schools are now twice as big on average as the current membership though. Of course, a lot of this has to do with DI-AA splitting off.

DII's was down to 96 members right after DI-AA was formed. In 2004, they'll have 145 members. That's kind of encouraging for them. DI-AA has seen modest growth over time even though some good programs have moved to DI-A football. I guess that would be encouraging for NDSU fans.

Just for fun, here are the 10 biggest DII schools rated by undergrad enrollment:

Undergrad Total
18407 31167 Wayne State (MI)
16875 20407 Grand Valley State
14897 16224 St. Cloud State
12988 15239 Central Oklahoma
12487 13865 Western Washington
12087 13795 Minn. State - Mankato
11834 13671 Indiana (PA)
11333 14451 Nebraska-Omaha
10467 12584 West Chester
10277 12423 North Dakota

DI-AA:

Undergrad Total
22871 28558 Cal State-Sacramento
22786 29807 UC Davis
21095 25041 Texas State - San Marcos
18994 23357 Northeastern
18606 24062 Massachusetts
18353 21183 Illinois State
18099 21289 Delaware
17794 18059 Weber State
17442 18453 Cal Poly-SLO
16863 21873 Southern Illinois

NDSU is #36.

Not much difference at the top, is there? Interesting that 8 of the 10 biggest DII schools are in the NW football region.

Median enrollment: DI-AA has 7,057 undergrad (8,930 total) and DII has 3349 undergrad (4676 total).

That's all the stupid stats for today.

LurkingDog
06-04-2004, 11:09 PM
I've been trying to compile all the scores for all current DI-AA teams since 1973 and that's proving kind of hard.


This is your lucky day. Someone has already found all those scores.

http://www.michigan-football.com/ncaa/ncaa_1aa.htm

JBB
06-05-2004, 04:43 AM
Thats really interesting. *A lot of schools have 500 games or more. *But some only have a few hundred or less. *When you look back on a history of 500 games or so your talking 100 yrs. *Those programs that have only played a couple of hundred games have a long way to go. *Look at the ups and downs at NDSU.