und coaching staff changes [Archive]

ndsubison

12-30-2003, 04:42 AM

Bubba is gone. Tibesar was supposedly wooed by Winless out at Suc-State before accepting the DC job @und, and I have a gut feeling that Lennon won't last more than a couple more years there, either. I guess that's what a little success does to a program. I am willing to bet that und's football roots are not as deeply rooted as their fans would like to think, and that their "program" will suffer from such a blood-letting. I may be wrong but after they go back to losing seasons all of their bandwagon fans will once again turn their attention to hockey. Anybody else have thoughts on this?

Bisonguy

12-30-2003, 06:25 AM

Bisonfan1234

12-30-2003, 07:21 AM

Mussman and Tibesar (who aparantly is a genius or something) i think are both going to leave.

Lennon might stay however.

JBB

12-30-2003, 11:58 AM

When all of their band wagon fans leave just exactly how many fans will be left? The way I figure it they only have about 6 - 7,000 reliable fans now. In the future college athletics in North Dakota is going to be about und hockie and all the NDSU sports. Hockie will come in third or fourth.

My guess is DIAA coaching hopeful Dale Lennon might be gone this year. He is looking at a minimimum of $20,000 more if his dream comes true, but he is a hayseed and might just be up there for life.

Winless is really trying to harvest und athletics.

wfduck

12-30-2003, 12:54 PM

If Lennon is smart he goes....NOW.

JBB

12-30-2003, 01:42 PM

My thoughts exactly the duck.

wfduck

12-30-2003, 03:09 PM

so where does he go?

anybody know?

or where should he go?

Bisonfan1

12-30-2003, 03:10 PM

According to the Jamestown Sun Dosch is the leading candidate for the head coaching job of the Jimmies, according to reports he will take the job. A formal introduction is set for later this week. Good news for the Jimmies.

Former_Hitman

12-30-2003, 03:36 PM

Thinking about Dale,

Why would he take the job at jamestown? Most goals of head coaches is to move up in divisions not move down.

runtheoption

12-30-2003, 03:49 PM

Former Hitman, Tommy Dosch is the one taking the Jimmie head coach job.

ndsubison

12-31-2003, 12:37 AM

I read on this forum that Lennon is applying for other jobs, as is Mussman. If that is true, it tells me that RT & Ralph U are indeed going to stay d2 for quite some time. I hope that they do and then WHEN they decide they belong at that level they have to wait a long time in the provisional period while they watch the BISON going head to head with top I-AA teams. Boy, the whining from s--uxville will never stop. They will have nothing to talk about but hockey. I hope all their good coaches bail. Good for RT & the entire nation of weasels up there. ;D ;D ;D

12-31-2003, 12:48 AM

I read on this forum that Lennon is applying for other jobs, as is Mussman. *If that is true, it tells me that RT & Ralph U are indeed going to stay d2 for quite some time. *I hope that they do and then WHEN they decide they belong at that level they have to wait a long time in the provisional period while they watch the BISON going head to head with top I-AA teams. *Boy, the whining from s--uxville will never stop. *They will have nothing to talk about but hockey. *I hope all their good coaches bail. *Good for RT & the entire nation of weasels up there. * ;D ;D ;D

Lennon hasn't applied for anything. Not sure who made that up.

ndsubison

12-31-2003, 12:59 AM

Lennon hasn't applied for anything. *Not sure who made that up.

Are you prepared to back that statement up with legitimate sources? If you can prove your statement as true, great. The rest of my previous post still applies ;D

ndsubison

12-31-2003, 01:02 AM

After recent events, next year's regional game(s) between GVSU & und should really be a clash of the titans ::). I just can't wait until Bubba and his Bulldogs are handing it to the s--ux in a few years. Oh, the irony :o

JBB

12-31-2003, 02:44 AM

We probably have Bubba and the Bulldogs next year in the Fabulous Fargo Dome. I like the game. We will have had shots at WSU, Concordia-St. Paul and now Duluth. Thats the best that conference has to offer, the top 3. I look forward to playing any of them in the future. We should always have room for the top 1 or 2 regional D2 programs.

ndsubison

12-31-2003, 04:06 AM

Tom Dosch, the OLB coach and Twin Cities recruiter, left UND today for Jamestown (head coach?). I think this will hurt UND's recruiting in the Minneapolis area. It's going to be a coaching carousel at UND for a while. Mussman and Lennon have both been applying for other jobs.

Bisonguy,

Curious to where you heard of Lennon & Mussman applying for other coaching jobs. D from und claims this is not true and I personally have no idea either way. Lennon HAS to be getting restless with RT & his policies and obviously has to know he could get it done at the next level. Also, JBB has a good point of us scheduling the top one or two regional teams in the next two or so years (should they want to play NDSU). I think that would be good for both parties.

Hey D--Duluth is not scared to schedule the BISON, even before Bubba got there. I would also be willing to bet that GVSU would not shy away from a game in the FargoDome, either. Why is that? I know why, because one is a program on the rise who is not afraid to test their mettle and the other is a true champion who is as gracious in defeat as they are in victory. That doesn't sound much like und, does it ;D :o ;D

Bisonguy

12-31-2003, 04:37 AM

ndsubison,

Dale "Golly, Gee Whiz, those city lights sure are briight" Lennon was a finalist for the Sac State job last year, so he's been looking around. I'm sure he will take a better offer that comes around, especially if UND does not move to I-AA. After all, he has been telling recruits that UND is moving to I-AA, and is pushing RT to move up.

Mussman was a finalist for the UMD spot, and has been in the running for at least one other head coach spot last year. Obviously, he has multiple copies of his resume. Most knowledgable UND fans agree that he will be gone in the next couple years.

ndsubison

12-31-2003, 04:45 AM

Thanks Bisonguy--I am aware of Lennon's Sac State venture last year and the fact that Mussman was a finalist @UMD somehow slipped my mind. I am still curious if Lennon still has himself on the market presently, especially with the rumors of him telling recruits that und will be I-AA within 3 yrs, etc etc.....
I just cannot see him staying at und if they in fact remain d2. He would be selling himself short, career-wise (and level-wise, for the und lurkers reading this). 8)

12-31-2003, 04:54 AM

Bisonguy,

Curious to where you heard of Lennon & Mussman applying for other coaching jobs. *D from und claims this is not true and I personally have no idea either way. *Lennon HAS to be getting restless with RT & his policies and obviously has to know he could get it done at the next level. *Also, JBB has a good point of us scheduling the top one or two regional teams in the next two or so years (should they want to play NDSU). *I think that would be good for both parties. *

Hey D--Duluth is not scared to schedule the BISON, even before Bubba got there. *I would also be willing to bet that GVSU would not shy away from a game in the FargoDome, either. *Why is that? *I know why, because one is a program on the rise who is not afraid to test their mettle and the other is a true champion who is as gracious in defeat as they are in victory. *That doesn't sound much like und, does it ;D :o ;D

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why UMD scheduled NDSU, $$$. They need all they can get for their move up as they are roughly 15 scolies behind most of the rest of the NCC. They have no hope for the playoffs, so they don't have anything to lose by playing NDSU. Just to point out, Mankato scheduled a game at NDSU for next year, does that make them a program on the rise? They sure aren't one of the top 1, 2, or 20 programs in the region.

ndsubison

12-31-2003, 05:27 AM

und could make a lot of $$$$ by doing a home and home with NDSU but they choose not to. *Don't tell me that und doesn't need the money because everybody in the world needs more money, including you and me. *Mankato and Duluth have balls, und and RT do NOT. *GVSU was not scared to play (and beat) Davis. *NDSU was not afraid to go out to Montana at an obvious disadvantage and lay our balls on the line. *D III Carroll College of Montana was not afraid to take on (then ranked #2 in DII) Central Washington (I think und remembers them :o) and beat them. * Augustana was not afraid to take on UNC. It seems to me that balls abound in the world of college football. *Just not in Grand Forks. *Go ahead and use the fiscal and playoff rhetoric if you have to. *It's OK to be fiscally sound and still have no balls. *Especially in Grand Forks. *

C-Student

12-31-2003, 01:27 PM

There is no defense for UND's weak schedule......NO DEFENSE. It is, in typical fashion, its way of creating the facade of a quality program. I would be embarassed to be a UND football fan.

Flintstone

12-31-2003, 01:48 PM

ndsubison,

Carrol College is NAIA. That makes it worse yet.

JBB

12-31-2003, 02:18 PM

No matter what happens, in the future NDSU will find competition like und hard to come by. *Our competition will be better and more exciting to watch. *In a few short years a und game would be a breather. *

Sure there are better games than Mankato, but a lot of regional teams are playing Mankato this year. *Many teams are stepping up to compete. *One is not. *I have heard that SCSU and Marshall are playing BB against the Gophers next season, DII playoffs be damed.

Because of their spite und has covered their sports program in a cloak of humiliation. * Its something that should be looked into. *Decision making on such a petty level is certainly hurting both NDSU and the suck in the pocket book.

NDSU cant stay in DII just to play und. *They have far more to gain in DI without the rivalry. *Obviously by presenting the contracts to the und brain trust NDSU recognized the mutual benefit of continuing the games. *

und on the other hand gains nothing by refusing to play, has disappointed most regional sports fans and hurt both schools financially. *Flimsy excuses aside, it is such a poor decision that it calls into question their clear thinking. * *

Its difficult to imagine, Glas not withstanding, that the coachs are happy with this. I think there will be a lot of changes up there including the AD.

Bison_Kent

12-31-2003, 02:25 PM

I am very excited that NDSU has gotten any I-AA teams to come to Fargo next year. This year is kind of a limbo year for NDSU (and SDSU). The Bison count as a I-AA opponent for DII or lower competition but as a DII against I-AA or higher competition.

Having an entire DII team home schedule was what I expected. This is what UC-Davis and N. Colorado had last year. But having Cal-Poly (who were nationally ranked in I-AA) coming to Fargo is very good land for Gene and company. As is having road games at SDSU, N. Colorado, UC-Davis, and St. Mary's.

Having MN-Duluth might be the local rivalry home game since their coaching staff is now mostly UND former coaches.

I would be happy with Mankato and any other NCC team coming to Fargo. Those teams can use the game as a measuring stick game much like we used Montana last year.

UNDvince97-01

12-31-2003, 02:31 PM

why would we be scared to play a team that we have owned in recent history? i think its so funny how every year you have the self-proclaimed best recruiting classes, the best scheduling, best coaching, and best players, yet come game time with UND none of that seems to show up. we are NOT afraid to add another win to our column every year by scheduling NDSU. however, we are worried about the consequences of playing a non-d2 school, as it will hurt our strength of schedule index when playoff time rolls around EVERY year for us. case and point UNA and ndsu this year. of all people that should know about that, its ndsu fans. even i think ndsu should have made the playoffs this year, even though they had 3 losses. your "awesome" scheduling hurt you this year. stop saying that we "dont have the balls" to play you guys anymore, and come to reality with yourselves and the issue at hand. WE ARE NOT AFRAID OF A TEAM AND UNIVERSITY THAT WE HAVE BEEN BEATING REGULARLY. sorry, but the cons heavily outweigh the pros for us in this instance. i understand that there is alot of pent up frustration from all the recent success of the ndsu football program, but please come to reality.

ok, all smack aside, i think ndsu will do fine in d1-aa. they will impact that division immediately. they CAN compete immediately and WILL. imo, d2 in football talent in general in very similar to d1-aa. d-1aa just has more quality depth at every position because of the scolarship differential. good luck with your move. just stop with trying to blame UND for doing something that is in their own best interest.

Bison_Kent

12-31-2003, 02:39 PM

UNDVince,

I for one would like to see the UND game stay on the schedule like most people but I see why UND would not want to do it.

However, when it comes to lost revenue, UND might be the one over time that loses out. The 2004 game would be scheduled for Fargo but the 2005 game would have been in Grand Forks. Who does UND think will draw even close to the NDSU game?

NDSU (being in I-AA) will have many national powers such as Montana, Montana State, or Northern Iowa to make up for the lost revenue from the UND game. I just don't see what kind of game UND could get by staying with an entire DII schedule.

UNDvince97-01

12-31-2003, 02:47 PM

UNDVince,

I for one would like to see the UND game stay on the schedule like most people but I see why UND would not want to do it. *

However, when it comes to lost revenue, UND might be the one over time that loses out. *The 2004 game would be scheduled for Fargo but the 2005 game would have been in Grand Forks. *Who does UND think will draw even close to the NDSU game? *

NDSU (being in I-AA) will have many national powers such as Montana, Montana State, or Northern Iowa to make up for the lost revenue from the UND game. *I just don't see what kind of game UND could get by staying with an entire DII schedule.

Kent,

you are probably right about the revenue issue, but i think that making the playoffs is more important to the football program right now than revenue and attendance figures. *some money will probably be lost from losing ndsu from the schedule, but i dont think it is enough to trump the playoff criteria importance. *thanks for being reasonable and agreeing that you could see why UND would not want to continue playing a d1-aa ndsu. *nice job with your column this year on d2football.com.

by the way, do you already have um, msu, and northern iowa on your schedule already for next year? just curious.

tony

12-31-2003, 03:36 PM

...by the way, do you already have um, msu, and northern iowa on your schedule already for next year? *just curious.

I haven't heard of any of those teams being on next year's schedule yet. As Bison_Kent pointed out, next year's schedule is going to be the toughest one for NDSU to put together. Obviously, BK's planning horizon, just like Taylor's, extends beyond next year's season.

I'd also agree that UND's administration isn't afraid of NDSU in football. They're being more spiteful than afraid and want to teach NDSU a lesson for going DI. That makes me think that either a) they are never going DI or b) their planning horizon is about as wide as Gene Roebuck's pornstache.

Bison_Kent

12-31-2003, 03:59 PM

Vince,

No, none of the schools I mentioned are on next year's schedule. But future seasons they will be.

I have heard plans of other Big Sky and Gateway schools, however for next season. I have heard Portland State and Western Illinois listed but nothing is concrete as of now.

Thanks for the column comments. It was pretty fun to do for a year. One year was all I am doing it for, however. It was time consuming but learning about the West Region teams has kept a better prespective now as many of the DII West teams played the I-AA independent teams that have been discussed joining NDSU and SDSU for the new conference. Keep your eye out on i-aa.org. I might pop up again there.

UNDvince97-01

12-31-2003, 04:02 PM

I haven't heard of any of those teams being on next year's schedule yet. As Bison_Kent pointed out, next year's schedule is going to be the toughest one for NDSU to put together. Obviously, BK's planning horizon, just like Taylor's, extends beyond next year's season.

I'd also agree that UND's administration isn't afraid of NDSU in football. They're being more spiteful than afraid and want to teach NDSU a lesson for going DI. That makes me think that either a) they are never going DI or b) their planning horizon is about as wide as Gene Roebuck's pornstache.

LMAO!!!! gene roebuck's porn stache?!?! thats some funny stuff. i will have to admit, there may be a little spite in the decision by the administration, but thats not the main reason. you'll have to admit that.

JBB

12-31-2003, 04:59 PM

Since the no compete ban extends across all sports except maybe baseball Im led to believe the main motivator is spite. But I agree, the main reasons are playoff implications and recognizing the gulf between a DI and DII school athletically.

The first reason is off set by the expanded playoff field and no implications in other sports. The second reason is off set by recognizing that NDSU is not fully acclimated to DI and wont be for several years.

I thought NDSU did the right thing by offering to play. Certainly it would help us out a lot because it is difficult scheduling in the transition. Thats where the spite comes in. Unfortunately regional sports fans are suffering and money is being lost.

WYOBISONMAN

12-31-2003, 05:11 PM

I do have to give some credence to the Strength of Sched argument that UND advances. I think that the primary motivator is spite, but clearly there is the issue of SOS. Bottom line is that the SOS is another reason why it is a good thing to get the hell out of D2.

JBB

12-31-2003, 06:11 PM

I agree, but SCSU and SW Minnesota State - Marshall are playing the Gophers in BB next year. That certainly draws a contrast to unds approach to competitiveness. I cant really see this policy as inspiring to their coaches and may in itself hasten change. The staff moves seem to be the start of that. Heck I like those guys. Nobody has supported them over the years as much as I have but they dont look good here. 8)

airmail

12-31-2003, 06:12 PM

ndsubison,

Dale "Golly, Gee Whiz, those city lights sure are briight" Lennon was a finalist for the Sac State job last year, so he's been looking around.

If it hasn't been mentioned already, that was just to appease Terry "I messed with the UND hockey program and got my ass kicked all the way to California" Wanless.

Kind of like when someone from the neighborhood is in some pyramid scheme, and wants to sell you on it. You don't tell him to piss off and slam the door in his face... you listen to his garbage, pretend you're possibly interested, and turn him down politely.
Just like Lennon did with Wanless...

JBB

12-31-2003, 06:17 PM

Yea right.

somebison

12-31-2003, 06:29 PM

If it hasn't been mentioned already, that was just to appease Terry "I messed with the UND hockey program and got my ass kicked all the way to California" Wanless.

you should tell that to the sac-staters.. according to them wanless was partially responsible for securing ralphies donation

"Why does everybody in North Dakota despise Dr. Terry Wanless? Ok, so he was your rivals AD, he helped your rival gain a $100M athletic enhancement donation and elevated your rival to the 'next level' in athletics."

http://bigskyconference.community.everyone.net/community/scripts/topics.pl?NodeID=207903&ClientID=1224590

under vultures from fargo

somebison

12-31-2003, 06:53 PM

their planning horizon is about as wide as Gene Roebuck's pornstache.

is a pornstache required to be a coach at und

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12-31-2003, 06:57 PM

;D ;D Thanks for throwing in the picture of the softball coach (the last one). I believe she used to have a mustache too, but it hurt recruiting so she was sent orders to shave it. Her sideburns were pretty sweet though. That wildabeast needs to be canned on looks alone, let alone her annual 7-30 record.

WYOBISONMAN

12-31-2003, 07:03 PM

I saw her picture and I thought my computer had a damn virus!!!!!

12-31-2003, 07:11 PM

I saw her picture and I thought my computer had a damn virus!!!!!

And that picture doesn't do her any justice. She is actually uglier in real life. Think Tuddy/Truddy from the Facts Of Life, - a few inches, + 45-75 lbs, with a hint of Sherri Kleinsasser, and a voice deeper than most guys. UGGGGGGGGGGGLY! Hell, she's a female softball coach, that's probably the norm.

somebison

12-31-2003, 07:15 PM

And that picture doesn't do her any justice. *She is actually uglier in real life. *Think Tuddy/Truddy from the Facts Of Life, - a few inches, + 45-75 lbs, with a hint of Sherri Kleinsasser, and a voice deeper than most guys. *UGGGGGGGGGGGLY! *Hell, she's a female softball coach, that's probably the norm.

You mean natalie from the facts of life? (the fat white one).. I was actually looking for a picture of sherry but couldn't find one so the picture of the softball coach had to suffice :)

airmail

12-31-2003, 07:24 PM

you should tell that to the sac-staters.. according to them wanless was partially responsible for securing ralphies donation

He was... his departure made the donation possible. :D (but don't quote me on it)

BTW the "picture post" was hilarious. I recommend it be elevated to the "best of smack" archives.

12-31-2003, 07:32 PM

You mean natalie from the facts of life? (the fat white one).. I was actually looking for a picture of sherry but couldn't find one so the picture of the softball coach had to suffice *:)

Natalie for size, but Tuddy or whatever the hell her name is because of her hair, that classy female mullet look that all the best lookin broads sport, it just screams lesbian. *Her picture worked just fine. *I only wish I had a shot of her in the 3rd base coaching box in her nice tight pants. *WOW!! *And she is reading this while crying as we speak.

C-Student

12-31-2003, 07:48 PM

Moustache, combined with feathered hair, parted down the middle is worse than a mullet.

tony

12-31-2003, 08:17 PM

BisonInTexas

12-31-2003, 09:18 PM

UNDVince-etc, yeah, SOS is a good reason for not playing NDSU next year - however, UND was talking about running away from the rivalry for months before we found out how DII was going to use the strength of schedule. Back then, Thomas was saying, "We need an appropriate number of home games" - whatever that means. Nor does that explain UND not playing NDSU in basketball.

BTW, I didn't come up with pornstache thing. I wish I could remember who came up with it and give them credit (think it was a Valdosta fan).

I agree Tony. The SOS argument is a convenient cover (althought not a very convincing one). First off, the expanded playoff field should make UND a lock for post-season in the watered-down DII. Second, most Sioux fans point to the UNA schedule as the reason that they got home field in the playoffs. They were right - but it wasn't because UNA played (and beat) and DI-AA team. It was because they played (and beat) a DII provisional team, which earned them 2 points in the SOS (or is that POS?) formula. People also (conveniently) ignore the fact that TAMUK played not one but two (horrors!) DI-AA teams and still hosted playoff games. If the SOS formula got changed (and some in DII are trying to get it changed (but not UND) ), my bet is UND would still not play NDSU.

The fact that BB is not competing next year is pure spite. The difference in the short term between a fledgling DI program and a solid DII team would not be that great, so the games would certainly be competitive and would have no bearing whatsoever on playoff seeds in DII. Reading Glas's comments, you can practically see him grinding his teeth in anger.

The real losers in this are the fans, because it doesn't have to be this way.

Craig

JBB

12-31-2003, 10:42 PM

Ånybody who doubts that und is out to do harm to NDSU any way that it can need look no further than this fiasco. Its a disappointment to the fans and is costing both schools a lot of money. This type of decision making is very questionable.

It does establish und as a division 2 school. They cant compete with any DI or DIAA teams without playing NDSU, thats for sure. This will certainly widen the gulf between the 2 schools athletically. Over the next several years I look for NDSU athletics to really take over the spotlight in North Dakota.

Its going to be hard to find competition as good as und. Its all going to be better.

Bisonfan1

01-02-2004, 04:50 PM

Tom Dosch was introduced today (Friday) as the new Jamestown Jimmies head Coach. For those of you who dont know, Dosch is a Strasburg native and was the Jimmies assistant head coach and offensive coordinator in 95-96. He was the defensive line and outside linebackers coach for UND (oh well) . Since I am from Jamestown this is good news to get a quality coach in place for the Jimmies. Maybe the Jimmies will move into the NCC in the near future, I have heard that the University of Mary would like to move up within 4 years. While the Bison are reaping the benifits of 1-AA, the SUE could be playing Mary, Jamestown, Valley City State. "The New NCC" All speculation of course!!

gobison

01-04-2004, 02:03 AM

Hey yeah BFan1, I heard Mary is moving up also. Kind of funny that the Bison want to better and improve their program while the Sue feel content to hang back in the dark ages. Of course, that's always been the difference between the two programs (case in point --- Bison playing opening games games with playoff contenders and ACTUAL opponents while the Sue play the likes of Moorhead, and Mayberry College and any other easy victory they can cough up). Sure, with DII, that gets them in the playoffs, but the Bison would rather face a challenge and a true contender than ridicule their program, even when risking their offseason. It seems to me that while the Bison are moving up, the Sioux are backing down -- i.e. -- teams aren't moving up to DII, the Sue are GOING DOWN to NAIA -- And so Jimmy Kleindropper thinks the Bison are stupid ??!!

BisonWarrior

01-04-2004, 05:31 AM

Thanks Bisonguy--I am aware of Lennon's Sac State venture last year and the fact that Mussman was a finalist @UMD somehow slipped my mind. *I am still curious if Lennon still has himself on the market presently, especially with the rumors of him telling recruits that und will be I-AA within 3 yrs, etc etc.....
I just cannot see him staying at und if they in fact remain d2. *He would be selling himself short, career-wise (and level-wise, for the und lurkers reading this). * 8)

I spoke with a UND/NDSU recruit this week and when he specifically asked Lennon about UND going D1AA, Lennon said it would be at least 5 years. I predict recruiting will get alot tougher for UND with the coaching change. I am sure he told this recruit 5 years because the one thing they have left to sell is the possibility of playoffs. If they make the move anywhere from 1 to 3 years it will put this year's recruiting class in a very tough place.

ndsubison

01-05-2004, 06:45 PM

Bison Warrior--that is very interesting. Is Lennon telling potential recruits bald-faced lies or does s--uxville have something up their collective sleeves? All of this has me really curious. Another question: IF und were to move up within 2-5 yrs, how would modified provisional period affect them and what would the ramifications of leaving the NCC be for und? I have heard something like having to giver the NCC 18 mo's notice (?) of departure and that the provisional period for FB will be changed (i.e. extended). If I am incorrect on this I hope that somebody will clarify it.

BisonMav

01-05-2004, 07:24 PM

There is an 18 month notice required by the NCC to leave the conference without a penalty. UND could pay the penalty and leave earlier. If not, they are at least six or seven years, depending on timing, away from being I-AA playoff eligible.

I wonder if Lennon would leave UND to Coach SDSU if the job were open in Brookings. He would be moving up the ladder, SDSU would get a good coach, and he could still go after the Bison.