CN vs. NDSU....

[CNCEagle97]

Hello all! I'm extremely excited about CN playing NDSU, would feel better if we were playing you at The Creek though.

I look for a very competitive ball game, CN appears to be loaded on offense, this could be our best offense since 1999. The D Line will need to step up because we're replacing all three starters.

I guarantee you that we will make a better showing than Tusculum did last season.

[somebison]

I think it should be a good game as well. *CN's record (http://www.bisonville.com/zt000019.html) over the last few years is impressive

[Bisonguy]

Should be a great game. It should be interesting to see NDSU's old offense (veer) and the new offense (WCO) during the same game.

CNCEagle97,

Are you going to make it to the game?

[Bisonfan1234]

Does CN run split back or I?

[BisonInTexas]

If they still run the veer, it is a split backfield.

Craig

[CNCEagle97]

CN runs the Split Veer with formations varying from Two Back/Double Tight End, all the way to Single Back/4 wide sets.

With our current QB and WR's we are more of a downfield passing threat than in years past as well.

I am going to try and make the game, I've never been to ND. Which Air Port would one fly into?

I hear that you guys got some of the coaches from Frank Solich's staff at NU, who were they?

[KTF]

Fly into Hector Airport in Fargo it is about 2 miles from the FargoDome (where the Bison Roam). Across the road from the dome, there is a nice hotel which will make tailgating activities before the game easily accessible without a vehicle! I believe it is the Days Inn on 19th Ave N but I am not sure if that is the correct name. The rest of the hotels are a ways away from the dome.

The coaches are Craig Bohl (def coordinator with NU) head coach, Jimmy Burrow (grad assistant @ nu, I think) def cord, Nelson Barnes (defensive ends) defensive line, Tim Albin (grad assist) OC.

A link to the coaches is http://www.gobison.com/mens/football/coaches/, if you want more info.

[IowaBison]

'tis the Days Inn Airport

[Bisonfan1234]

I might recomend flying into the Mpls airport via Northwest or Sun Country. You might be able to find some real steals as far as price is concerned.

You'd need someone to drive you the rest of the way though.

[Bisonguy]

I might recomend flying into the Mpls airport via Northwest or Sun Country. You might be able to find some real steals as far as price is concerned.

You'd need someone to drive you the rest of the way though.

For the trip to Davis (flying into Oakland) it was only $12 more to fly out of Fargo. 3.5 hours of driving each way(and a rental car for CNCEagle97) is not worth a $12 savings imo.

[TheBisonator]

There's no reason you can't fly to Chicago O'Hare then take a transfer flight to Fargo. I'm sure there's lots of good deals out there.

The only problem is that almost all the city's hotels are clustered around West Acres Shopping Center. The only airport hotel is the Days Inn, if I'm not mistaken. They're planning an on-campus hotel at NDSU, tho.

[Bisonfan1234]

For the trip to Davis (flying into Oakland) it was only $12 more to fly out of Fargo. 3.5 hours of driving each way(and a rental car for CNCEagle97) is not worth a $12 savings imo.


In that situation, of course not.

But you never know, check out both Mpls (driving and flying) and Chicago.


And FYI, it's 240 mi. from Fargo to Mpls. That's a 3 hour drive. ::)

[Bisonguy]

The on-campus hotel probably won't even break ground before winter.

There's also a Radison (one of Fargo's tallest buildings-around 16 floors :o) and the Hotel Donaldson (very recent remodel/restoration to a historic Fargo hotel- complete with martini bars and roof-top patio). Both of these hotels are located downtown (don't worry-Fargo's not that big) so they're about 5-10 minutes from the Fargodome. The Hotel Donaldson has been featured in a lot of press about Fargo's downtown revitalizion. Both of these hotels would be up-scale by Fargo standards, and would set you back about $100/night. Plus, if you want to go any bars, most of them are located downtown and you can walk back to your room ;D.

[Bisonguy]

In that situation, of course not.

But you never know, check out both Mpls (driving and flying) and Chicago.


And FYI, it's 240 mi. from Fargo to Mpls. That's a 3 hour drive. *::)

By the time you get stuck in any sort of traffic slowdown in Minneapolis, the airport traffic, any road construction, and refueling, it's a 3.5 hour drive.

[TheBisonator]

The on-campus hotel probably won't even break ground before winter.

There's also a Radison (one of Fargo's tallest buildings-around 16 floors :o) and the Hotel Donaldson (very recent remodel/restoration to a historic Fargo hotel- complete with martini bars and roof-top patio). Both of these hotels are located downtown (don't worry-Fargo's not that big) so they're about 5-10 minutes from the Fargodome. The Hotel Donaldson has been featured in a lot of press about Fargo's downtown revitalizion. Both of these hotels would be up-scale by Fargo standards, and would set you back about $100/night. Plus, if you want to go any bars, most of them are located downtown and you can walk back to your room *;D.

The Radisson is the tallest building in the city at 18 floors and 208 feet tall.

(Just gotta use more of my architecture knowledge. ;D)

[Trimmy]

Is it the tallest in the state? (In other words, is it taller than the capital building?)

[TheBisonator]

It's the 2nd tallest in the state. The State Capitol is 19 floors and 246 feet tall. But three of ND's four tallest buildings are in Fargo. The Radisson (18, 208), The Senior Citizen's High Rise (22, 207) and the Bank Of The West Tower (12, 162) are the 2nd, 3rd and 4th tallest.

More architecture tidbits.

[Bisonfan1234]

The entire state's tallest building is not even 250 ft. tall.

[bisonranch]

There's a law that prohibits buildings from being taller than the capitol in Bismarck. And I think it's 241' 8", not that it matters.

[whatever_]

The radisson is actually 19 floors. There is a mezzanine level between the numbered 1st and 2nd floor. So the 2nd floor is actually the 3rd etc etc.

Any by the way it is in a very good spot if you want to hit the bars downtown before the game and stumble home from after the game. :)

[TheBisonator]

The radisson is actually 19 floors. *There is a mezzanine level between the numbered 1st and 2nd floor. *So the 2nd floor is actually the 3rd etc etc.

Any by the way it is in a very good spot if you want to hit the bars downtown before the game and stumble home from after the game. :)

Hmm, I did not know that... I walked in there one day, and I thought that floor was just the 2nd floor.

Oh well, good news nonetheless. ;D

[TheBisonator]

There's a law that prohibits buildings from being taller than the capitol in Bismarck. *And I think it's 241' 8", not that it matters.

They may seriously have to abolish that law once Fargo's downtown starts really taking off.

[IowaBison]

I don't know where you've been Bisonator, but Americans are more into sprawl, and suburban campuses, than height now adays.

[tony]

There's a law that prohibits buildings from being taller than the capitol in Bismarck. *And I think it's 241' 8", not that it matters.

I know it's going to be a good day when I learn something from a football board that doesn't involve sports.

[WYOBISONMAN]

We could start a ND trivia thread....a good starter question would be.....What is the name of the oil well where oil was first discovered in North Dakota. For a BONUS...what County is it in??

[tony]

Tioga rings a bell. No idea was county that it is in or what the oil well was named. I will look it up after posting this though :)

[NDSU_grad]

I'll take a guess that it's Williams County. And I think it was discovered in 1951. By the way, I worked on the oil rigs for two summers while attending NDSU. By far the most interesting job (in a lot of ways) I've ever had.

[TheBisonator]

I'm gonna guess one of those underwater towns near the Garrison Dam/Lake Sakakawea. Is it Sanish or Van Hook by any chance??

[BisonMav]

Clarence Iverson Well?

[Bisonfan1234]

Isn't the tallest TV tower in ND somewhere?

I don't think anyone is going to be building any tall buildings downtown anytime soon.

Most of Fargo's growth is going to be rural people who start moving into the city (finally getting with the times) and more retail business to service them. I think NDSU might try and push some growth in the high-tech fields, but I don't forsee any big tech companies putting buildings in Fargo when the cities are only 3 hours away.

[BisonMav]

Isn't the tallest TV tower in ND somewhere?

I don't think anyone is going to be building any tall buildings downtown anytime soon.

Most of Fargo's growth is going to be rural people who start moving into the city (finally getting with the times) and more retail business to service them.

Jobs is why they are moving. Most rural people don't mind driving to Fargo to shop. Especially when they can buy a nice house for 50K in a rural area. The same house in Fargo would be 150K, or 300K in the Twin Cities. In some cases you can buy a whole farm yard with barn, shop and a 50 year old house for 10K. You have to have a job to support you house payments if you move to Fargo.

[Bisonfan1234]

The jobs will be in the expanded service industry...which will be servicing the increased population.

[WYOBISONMAN]

Sorry it has taken me a while to get back to our TRIVIA answer.....The correct answer is the Clarence Iverson #1 well in Williams County!

Tony was close with Tioga....it is south of Tioga a few miles. NDSU_grad got the county and BisonMav got the well!!!!

.....I am in Las Vegas at a conference and I have been occupied with entertainment the past few days.... ;) I have been checking to see if I can place any wagers on the D1AA teams, but none of the sportsbooks have anything out on non-BCS games yet. Hopefully next time I am down here I can place a legit wager on the Bison.

By the way......I think some of these casinos owe me some money...so I have to run! ;D

[IowaBison]

a conference in Las Vegas? who scheduled that?

[WYOBISONMAN]

What can I say.....but Vegas is much better in November than July!

[Bison_Dan]

At least CN has quality people running their FB program and aren't scared to play quality teams or make up excuses (lies) about why they can't play. *They are light years ahead of some teams in the NCC in that dept. * ;D ;D

[JBB]

CN will arrive in Fargo after a week off. *They have some rebuilding to do. *Both their offensive and devensive lines were about cleaned out by graduation. *

On the other hand they have all 3 of their top running backs returning. *These guys didnt go over 1,000 yds but all three were close or over 700 with JJ Chapman just under a 1,000 and Shane Kelly not far behind with 826. *They also have their starting QB and WRs returning along with some great LB and defensive backs.

It sounds to me like they rotate backs a lot a la the old NDSU system. *I dont know how hard its going to be to replace the lineman.

This game shouldnt be a laugher. *I dont expect it to be. *They will be in mid season form and should be well rested. *

[CNCEagle97]

Actually our O-Line will be one of our strengths with 3 starters returning and the other two have started at other times in the past. Our offense might be our best since 1999 with the ability to be more balanced this season, we just have to hold on to the ball. Last year we went 6 deep at RB so we have depth there, and Shane should have a real nice SR season. Our biggest weapon on offense might be our TE Leonard Weaver.

You're right about the D-Line though, we are looking at three new starters, but our LB's are very good and our defensive backfield might be the best CN has had sine moving to D2 in 1993.

I really think this team will be closer to the 96-99 teams at CN. It really should be a great game, I'm looking forward to it.

Here is a preview of the 04 Eagles

http://news.cn.edu/athletics/Football/home.html

[WYOBISONMAN]

Thanks....great link!

[JBB]

Lets just look at QB. tony Stauss had 15 TDs and 2,134 yds. His interception ratio was about the same as Kellys. I dont think you will have an advantage at running back either. We have Kyle Steffes returning. He had just under 600 yds but was injured for the last couple of games. He can run against the best and proved it. he is coming off injury. We also have some great freshman in the wings. These are untested young men that can step up. Primarily C. Chapman.

The thing about Shane Kelley is this. He is a great rusher. a 4th back. He didnt get 1,000 but he is dangerous. NDSU has to stop that part of his game. Make him pass or run for 2 with punishment I dont think the NDSU defense is going to leave the cutback alleys open for him.

Its a great matchup. I promoted this for years when I used to post over on d2.com. You can bet there will be 1 fan there.

[TheBisonator]

I think Cinque Chapman proved in the spring game that he can take the #2 RB position. He was a running machine that game.

The great thing about Steffes is that he's only a sophomore, but he's just as good as any senior RB in the conference. Think about what the next few years could bring for him as long as he doesn't get injured anymore. Let's just hope he doesn't re-aggravate that ankle.

[CNCEagle97]

Lets just look at QB. *tony Stauss had 15 TDs and 2,134 yds. *His interception ratio was about the same as Kellys. *I dont think you will have an advantage at running back either. *We have Kyle Steffes returning. *He had just under 600 yds *but was injured for the last couple of games. *He can run against the best and proved it. *he is coming off injury. *We also have some great freshman in the wings. *These are untested young men that can step up. *Primarily C. Chapman.

The thing about Shane Kelley is this. *He is a great rusher. *a 4th back. *He didnt get 1,000 but he is dangerous. *NDSU has to stop that part of his game. *Make him pass or run for 2 with punishment *I dont think the NDSU defense is going to leave the cutback alleys open for him. *

Its a great matchup. *I promoted this for years when I used to post over on d2.com. *You can bet there will be 1 fan there.


I didn't really say we had an advantage, I was just trying to fill you in a little on this years team. We expect a lot out of them this season.

[Bisonfan1234]

I think Cinque Chapman proved in the spring game that he can take the #2 RB position. He was a running machine that game.

The great thing about Steffes is that he's only a sophomore, but he's just as good as any senior RB in the conference. Think about what the next few years could bring for him as long as he doesn't get injured anymore. Let's just hope he doesn't re-aggravate that ankle.

I've heard Chapman was good enough to take the #1 spot.

Obviously #1 is going to be given to Steffes out of respect of his brillent season last year, but Chapman might end up getting plenty of PT this year.

[JBB]

I didn't really say we had an advantage, I was just trying to fill you in a little on this years team. We expect a lot out of them this season.

I wasnt being argumentative CNCEagle97, i was just putting forward some of my own optimism about the BISON. *We have high hopes too. *I think the QB comparison is a good one. *I feel the BISON have that same edge all the way down the line. *

[Schemer]

I think Cinque Chapman proved in the spring game that he can take the #2 RB position. He was a running machine that game.

The great thing about Steffes is that he's only a sophomore, but he's just as good as any senior RB in the conference. Think about what the next few years could bring for him as long as he doesn't get injured anymore. Let's just hope he doesn't re-aggravate that ankle.

Are you talking about the NCC or Great West Conference? (This is a bold statement if you're talking about the G.W. Conf, just be aware)

[Bison_Dan]

Are you talking about the NCC or Great West Conference? *(This is a bold statement if you're talking about the G.W. Conf, just be aware)


I don't really think so. They list the SD State running back as the #1 back in the conference, which I think is a joke. He had around 50 yards against us. With steffes and Chapman we'll have the best 1-2 punch in the conference.

[whatever_]

Just a comparison here....

I was a sophomore when Lamar Gordon was a Freshman. Granted he was a true freshman, Lamar didn't show me a lot more talent than steffes did. Lamar had more speed etc. which took him to the professional level, but as a start in their college career in my opinion kyle reminds me alot of lamar in certain areas. Kyle is very hard to tackle, has some great m oves when he's in traffic and will only get better with time just like lamar.

Just my opinion.

[Schemer]

This year will be a big one for Steffes. We'll start to see whether he will be anchoring our running game, or whether we will have RB's 'by committee'. I think Steffes is an very good back, he doesn't have the ability (yet) to make the defense bite just on his footwork. Lamar could.

In other words, he doesn't remind me of Lamar..........yet.

[BisonMav]

I think the tempo change last year when Steffes and Malone rotated, caused the opposing teams defense some problems. Steffes looked harder to tackle up the middle than Malone last year, but Rod had more speed, hitting the holes faster. At least that's what it looked like from the stands last year.

[KTF]

I would suspect that once Cinque gets some playing time that he will be the #1 spot. I was at the spring game but don't really remember if Cinque had great foot work but the speed was impressive though :)

Gut feeling - he is going to be another Lamar.

[Bisonfan1234]

We'll start to see whether he will be anchoring our running game, or whether we will have RB's 'by committee'.

Not that committee backs are because neither back can do it by himself.

[Schemer]

Not that committee backs are because neither back can do it by himself.

Huh?

[Bisonfan1234]

You said it as if having commitee backs was plan B, as if he wasn't good enough to do it by himself.

[Schemer]

Deciding a position by 'committee' is usually Plan B. I can't think of a situation when it would not be. You said...


...as if having commitee backs was plan B, as if he wasn't good enough to do it by himself.

'Good enough' is conveniently vague, isn't it? I'm saying it's very difficult to judge whether a position will be effective when transitioning between 'levels'. Steffes was (and would be) valuable in DII - we know that. Will he be valuable in DI-AA? Only time will tell.

The 'RB's by committee' comment was pointing out if Steffes isn't effective @ I-AA, who do we go to? Chapman...a freshman? I would say that option is about as close to deciding by 'committee' as we can get.

[Bisonfan1234]

I'm going under the assumption that a Steffes/Chapman committee backs approach would be plan A for NDSU.

Malone/Steffes worked better for us than just Malone last year. Montana is a perfect example.