2023 Round 2: Montana State

[tony]

Common opponents: SDSU and EWU. The Bobcats appeared to win the game against SDSU, but a TD was overturned. Final score: 16-20. They crushed EWU (it was 41-7 at the half.)

Montana State's defense stonewalled SDSU in the first half which is quite a contrast to how helpless they made NDSU's defense look. They use two QBs like NDSU and run them even more.

The Big Sky stats say #1 scoring offense, #2 scoring defense, #1 total offense, #3 total defense, #1 rushing offense, #4 rushing defense, #9 passing offense (yardage) but #2 in efficiency, #2 passing defense (yards) / #3 in defensive efficiency, #1 in net punting, #1 in sacks. Basically a pretty solid team all-around.

[BiZon22]

Massey predicts we win by 3 points with this game being played in Bozeman. Whatever that’s worth.

[NI4NI]

They may as well just go ahead and start selling Sac State vs Bison at the dome tickets.

[HerdBot]

Montana State will be tough but winnable. The team has the same Vigen system but better players. They've done a good job recruiting with NIL, increasing the budget, improving the stadium snd building an IPF and performance center in the same ballpark as our IPF. They are also bucking the trend of enrollment declines

[SoCalBison]

Sagarin favors Montana State by 0.32 points, due to a home field advantage of 2.33 points.

[bruinbison]

Bobcat looks from the 406

https://skylinesportsmt.com/stuber-mentality-of-bobcats-entering-2023-playoffs-will-be-essential-factor/

[Kevin]

Stop touchdown tommy and win. That simple.

Can we stop missing tackles in the middle? Not so simple.

[EC8CH]

Stop touchdown tommy and win. That simple.

Can we stop missing tackles in the middle? Not so simple.

This really is the question. So much of our run D especially up the middle has me scratching my head this year. So much over pursuit and poor gap control. Frustrating.

[KSBisonFan]

Our offense is going to have to outscore the Bobcats. I think they can, but having our front 7 force a few punts and create a couple turnovers would help matters.
If we cant stop their running game, we lose. That simple.

[heffray]

Our offense is going to have to outscore the Bobcats. I think they can, but having our front 7 force a few punts and create a couple turnovers would help matters.
If we cant stop their running game, we lose. That simple.

…we had trouble with Drake’s running game…

[KSBisonFan]

…we had trouble with Drake’s running game…

Yeah, I'm aware. That's why I'm more skeptical of a Bison win over MSU after watching our defense yesterday.

[heffray]

Yeah, I'm aware. That's why I'm more skeptical of a Bison win over MSU after watching our defense yesterday.

We saw the same things.

[TAILG8R]

HAven't watch more than one minute of MSU games this year. We know they are QB rush heavy. Do they runs tend to go "up the middle" or are they usually to the outside or off tackle?

[mtoutfitter]

HAven't watch more than one minute of MSU games this year. We know they are QB rush heavy. Do they runs tend to go "up the middle" or are they usually to the outside or off tackle?

A lot of up the middle and off tackle. Could be a long day for the Bison....hope I'm wrong.

[TAILG8R]

A lot of up the middle and off tackle. Could be a long day for the Bison....hope I'm wrong.

Maybe the coaches can admit this isn't the Bison D of the past and go ahead and stack the box and make TD Tommy throw up some ducks.

[heffray]

Maybe the coaches can admit this isn't the Bison D of the past and go ahead and stack the box and make TD Tommy throw up some ducks.

Chambers has a decent arm and can run, too.

[gavin2126]

Chambers has a decent arm and can run, too.

They are hell bent on starting Mellot, but if they were smart Chambers would be the main guy with some Tommy sprinkled in.

[Hammerhead]

…we had trouble with Drake’s running game…

They only had 122 rushing yards or 61 net yards since sacks count as rushing attempts.

[Kevin]

They are hell bent on starting Mellot, but if they were smart Chambers would be the main guy with some Tommy sprinkled in.

What’s chambers do that’s better? I don’t follow that program closely.

If mallet can throw a bubble screen and run cole formations that’s all they probably need.

[Gully]

Common opponents: SDSU and EWU. The Bobcats appeared to win the game against SDSU, but a TD was overturned. Final score: 16-20. They crushed EWU (it was 41-7 at the half.)

Montana State's defense stonewalled SDSU in the first half which is quite a contrast to how helpless they made NDSU's defense look. They use two QBs like NDSU and run them even more.

The Big Sky stats say #1 scoring offense, #2 scoring defense, #1 total offense, #3 total defense, #1 rushing offense, #4 rushing defense, #9 passing offense (yardage) but #2 in efficiency, #2 passing defense (yards) / #3 in defensive efficiency, #1 in net punting, #1 in sacks. Basically a pretty solid team all-around.

I agree with you.

You're all knowing and never wrong. Everyone should agree with whatever you say.

In no way are you an arrogant know it all asshole.

[tony]

I agree with you.

You're all knowing and never wrong. Everyone should agree with whatever you say.

In no way are you an arrogant know it all asshole.

Fair enough.

[scottietohottie]

We beat drake eh

[gavin2126]

What’s chambers do that’s better? I don’t follow that program closely.

If mallet can throw a bubble screen and run cole formations that’s all they probably need.

Chambers can throw the ball much better and is a more straightforward powerful runner. Any throw more than 10 yards downfield and Mellot has to shotput it out there. If they were smart they'd use Mellot like Taysom Hill.

[TAILG8R]

They only had 122 rushing yards or 61 net yards since sacks count as rushing attempts.

122 seems like a lot to give up to the likes of Drake


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[heffray]

They only had 122 rushing yards or 61 net yards since sacks count as rushing attempts.

I don’t follow the “net 61 since sacks count as rush attempts…” wouldn’t that make their net rush yards more since sacks are net negative?

Either way, the way they were gashing us up the middle, even into the 3rd, was not good and it doesn’t really matter what the numbers say.

[Kevin]

I don’t follow the “net 61 since sacks count as rush attempts…” wouldn’t that make their net rush yards more since sacks are net negative?

Either way, the way they were gashing us up the middle, even into the 3rd, was not good and it doesn’t really matter what the numbers say.

For what it’s worth that back should transfer to Ndsu he seemed like a straight ahead no nonsense bro.

[Twincitybizon]

For what it’s worth that back should transfer to Ndsu he seemed like a straight ahead no nonsense bro.

Not sure what the coaches are telling the running backs but they seem very hesitant. Need to let these guys run loose and make plays

[TAILG8R]

Not sure what the coaches are telling the running backs but they seem very hesitant. Need to let these guys run loose and make plays

There were some good looking runs in the UNI and SIU games but yesterday they were back to hesitating hitting the hole which means running into a clogged gap.


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[El_Chapo]

I just got off the phone with a couple huge Montana Griz boosters. Let’s just say. This one is in the Bag.

Sac State at Fargodome Friday Night on ESPN with 19,000 loud fans gonna be LIT!!

[56BISON73]

Still tickets for sale.

[LefseBison]

I just got off the phone with a couple huge Montana Griz boosters. Let’s just say. This one is in the Bag.

Sac State at Fargodome Friday Night on ESPN with 19,000 loud fans gonna be LIT!!

Whose bag is it in? My God, you know everyone!

[heffray]

For what it’s worth that back should transfer to Ndsu he seemed like a straight ahead no nonsense bro.

I’m more worried about our interior rush blocking, hesitant to blame the backs at this point. Line play has been lackluster all year, the backbone of our program.

[mtoutfitter]

Whose bag is it in? My God, you know everyone!

You don't actually believe the stuff he posts do you?

[LefseBison]

You don't actually believe the stuff he posts do you?

Are you kidding me? Of course I do. Very well connected person.

[El_Chapo]

Are you kidding me? Of course I do. Very well connected person.

Where do you think Jason Petrino is from??? No need to squabble. We got this.

[LefseBison]

Where do you think Jason Petrino is from??? No need to squabble. We got this.

Thanks, big guy. I know I will sleep better knowing you have everything under control. :)

[El_Chapo]

Thanks, big guy. I know I will sleep better knowing you have everything under control. :)


https://youtu.be/agq5ZZipL1Q?si=qcL8_18770IOTsJP

[North Side]

This wil be a great FCS playoff game. Bison can win this game. It would easily be the best win of the year.

[ndsubison1]

It looks like an even matchup. Maybe we can be okay enough against the run to win. Sellout against it. Force some turnovers and keep converting redzone opportunities into tds.

[Bison2024]

Very winnable game.

Need to stop the run and win the turnover battle.

[sage]

The kitty's haven't been playing that well lately. They will need to stop tommy running wild though one way or another. A very winnable game for us and I'm hoping Bison come ready to kick ass and have that killing confidence attitude.

We need a no turnover game next week.

[NI4NI]

We need a no turnover game next week.

This was once a given. That and no mental penalties.

[KSBisonFan]

Where do you think Jason Petrino is from??? No need to squabble. We got this.

Cuz our defense has been able to scheme, tackle and be more physical against other decent, run-heavy teams this year.....

[Bisonator98]

We'll need to find a way to stop the run, I'd like to see us run blitzing all game. Might give a up a big play down field occasionally but it's better then a slow death by having them run it down our throats all game. I'm confident our offense will put up points if we let Cam sling it. If Roehl goes into his stubborn run it into a wall mentality or QB runs every other play then we won't keep up with them. Time to open up the offense and out score them!

[tony]

There were some good looking runs in the UNI and SIU games but yesterday they were back to hesitating hitting the hole which means running into a clogged gap.

I haven't re-watched it, but, holy cow, I switched to the Youngstown State game - they were running a similar offense and, in comparison, our RBs looked like people my age walking up to a bank teller to attempt to deposit an Olive Garden coupon into their account (i.e. slow, not quite sure what was going on or where they were, and liable to drop the coupon.) If we have a RB 8 yards deep in the backfield, 50% of the time they meet a defender at the QB. I'm guessing that's why they put RaJa back there because he doesn't screw around back there and has great vision.

They've got to step it up. I know TaMerik can do it, Barika shows flashes, and TK... c'mon man.

[ndsubison1]

5 Dimes has MSU favored by 1. Total of 59.

[cats2506]

Should be a close hard fought game. Cats haven't been as good later in the season, hopefully we have a couple players return to full strength. NDSU is having a down year but is still very dangerous. I think the team that wins this one is going to go on a run to the championship game.

[runtheoption]

I haven't re-watched it, but, holy cow, I switched to the Youngstown State game - they were running a similar offense and, in comparison, our RBs looked like people my age walking up to a bank teller to attempt to deposit an Olive Garden coupon into their account (i.e. slow, not quite sure what was going on or where they were, and liable to drop the coupon.) If we have a RB 8 yards deep in the backfield, 50% of the time they meet a defender at the QB. I'm guessing that's why they put RaJa back there because he doesn't screw around back there and has great vision.

They've got to step it up. I know TaMerik can do it, Otis shows flashes, and TK... c'mon man.

That sounds a little rapey.

[tolnabison]

A group of us did the one day charter back in 2010. Still my favorite trip of all time. Including every FBS game I have been too and Frisco. Is there a charter going this year? I can't go this year.

[KSBisonFan]

A group of us did the one day charter back in 2010. Still my favorite trip of all time. Including every FBS game I have been too and Frisco. Is there a charter going this year? I can't go this year.

I received an email gaging interest in a charter. Probably got it on Sunday?

[tolnabison]

I received an email gaging interest in a charter. Probably got it on Sunday?

Awesome. Wish I could attend. A bunch of our group is going to drive it I believe on Thursday rather then do the charter.

[TAILG8R]

Are you kidding me? Of course I do. Very well connected person.

Oh man, now I KNOW this is Chapo's grandma

[tony]

That sounds a little rapey.

Brain fart on my part. I was thinking he ran a bit like Otis and so...

[LefseBison]

Oh man, now I KNOW this is Chapo's grandma

Nope. Not a grandma. Don't quite get all the outrage/fuss about Lakes. He is a little eccentric but aren't we all? A little profane but aren't YOU ALL? I look forward to his posts so I can get the "skinny" on where this team is headed...Plus I love to read about his exploits and conversations with well-known people most of us only dream about knowing.

I am NOT a troll. Been lurking here for years and finally decided to "out" myself and start posting several months ago. Female. Not flirting with any of you but I do have a playful personality with both guys and gals so don't take anything personally with me or think I have ulterior motives. Betrothed.

[KSBisonFan]

Nope. Not a grandma. Don't quite get all the outrage/fuss about Lakes. He is a little eccentric but aren't we all? A little profane but aren't YOU ALL? I look forward to his posts so I can get the "skinny" on where this team is headed...Plus I love to read about his exploits and conversations with well-known people most of us only dream about knowing.

I am NOT a troll. Been lurking here for years and finally decided to "out" myself and start posting several months ago. Female. Not flirting with any of you but I do have a playful personality with both guys and gals so don't take anything personally with me or think I have ulterior motives. Betrothed.

You need new batteries in your bullsit detector if you believe most of what Chapo claims.

[BISONBRI53]

Nope. Not a grandma. Don't quite get all the outrage/fuss about Lakes. He is a little eccentric but aren't we all? A little profane but aren't YOU ALL? I look forward to his posts so I can get the "skinny" on where this team is headed...Plus I love to read about his exploits and conversations with well-known people most of us only dream about knowing.

I am NOT a troll. Been lurking here for years and finally decided to "out" myself and start posting several months ago. Female. Not flirting with any of you but I do have a playful personality with both guys and gals so don't take anything personally with me or think I have ulterior motives. Betrothed.

I wouldve gotten away with murder back in the day if you were my mom!!! My "bible study" Friday nights would have been believed!!! :biggrin:

[THEsocalledfan]

To win, we have to score a ton. Only can win via track meet due to our defense.

[LefseBison]

I wouldve gotten away with murder back in the day if you were my mom!!! My "bible study" Friday nights would have been believed!!! :biggrin:

I believe everyone until I have been given a reason to NOT believe them. Nothing Lakes has said or done has given me reason to doubt him. He has a wife and children who look up to him so I try to be kind. What if they were reading Bisonville?

[Snowgoose]

I haven't re-watched it, but, holy cow, I switched to the Youngstown State game - they were running a similar offense and, in comparison, our RBs looked like people my age walking up to a bank teller to attempt to deposit an Olive Garden coupon into their account (i.e. slow, not quite sure what was going on or where they were, and liable to drop the coupon.) If we have a RB 8 yards deep in the backfield, 50% of the time they meet a defender at the QB. I'm guessing that's why they put RaJa back there because he doesn't screw around back there and has great vision.

They've got to step it up. I know TaMerik can do it, Barika shows flashes, and TK... c'mon man.

One of our running issues is that we don’t do the read option out of the pistol. I hate that we don’t but I am not sure I have seen it all year. 100% of the time we line up that way we look to the sideline. I think we should do it out of the pistol as that is way more similar to our power I offense anyways. This brings up CAs point of knowing which okay is coming with which grouping we put on the field. Harbaugh wouldn’t even need to steal our signals.

[steelbison]

One of our running issues is that we don’t do the read option out of the pistol. I hate that we don’t but I am not sure I have seen it all year. 100% of the time we line up that way we look to the sideline. I think we should do it out of the pistol as that is way more similar to our power I offense anyways. This brings up CAs point of knowing which okay is coming with which grouping we put on the field. Harbaugh wouldn’t even need to steal our signals.

Agree 100 percent.


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[NDSU92]

I haven't re-watched it, but, holy cow, I switched to the Youngstown State game - they were running a similar offense and, in comparison, our RBs looked like people my age walking up to a bank teller to attempt to deposit an Olive Garden coupon into their account (i.e. slow, not quite sure what was going on or where they were, and liable to drop the coupon.) If we have a RB 8 yards deep in the backfield, 50% of the time they meet a defender at the QB. I'm guessing that's why they put RaJa back there because he doesn't screw around back there and has great vision.

They've got to step it up. I know TaMerik can do it, Barika shows flashes, and TK... c'mon man.

I have been wildly disappointed in our RBs this season. I thought TW would’ve gone for 1000 yards this year in his sleep. Part of that is our QBs getting 20 carries a game, but it’s on the RBs to run with authority and make some friggin plays.

[tony]

I have been wildly disappointed in our RBs this season. I thought TW would’ve gone for 1000 yards this year in his sleep. Part of that is our QBs getting 20 carries a game, but it’s on the RBs to run with authority and make some friggin plays.

In most of those QB carries, it's the QB who decides who keeps the ball. Cole Payton does some QB power, but even if it's read-option, he will keep the ball 99% of the time no matter what the defense is showing.

[steelbison]

In most of those QB carries, it's the QB who decides who keeps the ball. Cole Payton does some QB power, but even if it's read-option, he will keep the ball 99% of the time no matter what the defense is showing.

We actually don't know if it is a true read option. It might be pre-determined.

[Twincitybizon]

Great to have athletic qb to extend plays and put pressure on the d. Gives numbers to the qb run game. However their primary job is the throw the fucking football. Montana State messed that up. Not saying their qb's are terrible. But they cannot pick a d apart with any consistency. Plus side for them, they may not need to pass..... Game will be won or lost on QB missed tackles from our d. I would not gamble on this game. Anything could happen. Could see us blowing them out. Then blowing us out. Anything in between.

[tolnabison]

Great to have athletic qb to extend plays and put pressure on the d. Gives numbers to the qb run game. However their primary job is the throw the fucking football. Montana State messed that up. Not saying their qb's are terrible. But they cannot pick a d apart with any consistency. Plus side for them, they may not need to pass..... Game will be won or lost on QB missed tackles from our d. I would not gamble on this game. Anything could happen. Could see us blowing them out. Then blowing us out. Anything in between.

Can we gamble on the over/under of total QB runs between the two teams? 35.5?

[GreenfieldBison]

Looks like the weather conditions in Bozeman on Saturday are going to be roughly equivalent to the outdoor practice conditions in Fargo this week. Plus about 4,000 ft of elevation.

[Twincitybizon]

Can we gamble on the over/under of total QB runs between the two teams? 35.5?

HAMMER that over :)

[cats2506]

Can we gamble on the over/under of total QB runs between the two teams? 35.5?

I will take the over

[Sun Bison]

Can we gamble on the over/under of total QB runs between the two teams? 35.5?

You're crazy not to take the under! Entz has been hiding his playoff pass-happy offense all season.

[Twincitybizon]

Can we gamble on the over/under of total QB runs between the two teams? 35.5?

Their qb's ran 31 times against SDSU lol

[cbline]

Looks like the weather conditions in Bozeman on Saturday are going to be roughly equivalent to the outdoor practice conditions in Fargo this week. Plus about 4,000 ft of elevation.

Well, then turn down the temp in the practice facility and suck out some of the oxygen to simulate the game conditions. Problem solved.

[The_Sicatoka]

Well, then turn down the temp in the practice facility and suck out some of the oxygen to simulate the game conditions. Problem solved.

I'd offer the High Altitude Training Room but it's in use this week (games upcoming at Denver).
https://www.theralph.com/about-the-arena/weight-room-renovation


Honestly, the first game you feel winded; manage the substitutions.
The second game of a back to back is when your legs really go dead.

[TAILG8R]

If we can score 27 we might have a chance.

[Jim Puetz]

Screw the doom and gloom. We're gonna beat the Bobcats just like we have the past few years. This is destiny; greatest playoff run ever capped with a Natty over the Jacks. So it has been written, so it must be done. Go Bison!

[Alsen]

Don't be surprised if they go, hurry up, all game long and try to wear out the starting DL.

[TAILG8R]

Don't be surprised if they go, hurry up, all game long and try to wear out the starting DL.

Who’s they?


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[heffray]

Who’s they?


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Montana St, guessing. Not a bad game plan actually.

[GreenfieldBison]

Here’s hoping that Kittie FB is as inept as their media crew is

https://youtu.be/TdUqWLnzOnE?si=4igBaW3NTBFbtsAT

[TAILG8R]

One thing Entz said at his presser yesterday that I liked was mentioning they need to treat MSU almost like an option team. I was thinking about that the last few days and my less than stellar football education tells me to limit the damage you have to be gap sound and trust each other to make the play. It comes down to one on one tackling(which will be an issue) but "flowing to the ball" can get you killed in this situation.

I used cliche terms(and maybe incorrectly) but it was easier than writing out entire definitions of what I think should happen.

[cats2506]

One thing Entz said at his presser yesterday that I liked was mentioning they need to treat MSU almost like an option team. I was thinking about that the last few days and my less than stellar football education tells me to limit the damage you have to be gap sound and trust each other to make the play. It comes down to one on one tackling(which will be an issue) but "flowing to the ball" can get you killed in this situation.

I used cliche terms(and maybe incorrectly) but it was easier than writing out entire definitions of what I think should happen.


I heard that too, "play them like an option team" which is true. So the best way to play an option team is to force their weakest option. Is that the "dive" with #32 running between the tackles, or the QB run on the edge, to the Pitch/RPO pass to TE. If our OC has his head out of his ass this week we can run inside power from the same formations, and the LB still has to watch for Tommy on the edge.

If our OC is on his game it is really difficult to stop, however he has tendency to get cute and throw in a play that loses yards (trick plays, reverses ect...) or he gets way to predictable based on formations.

I am hoping Vigen slapped him around a little bit and our OC calls a decent game but you never know what the gameplan is with this guy until it starts.

[G_Funky]

One thing Entz said at his presser yesterday that I liked was mentioning they need to treat MSU almost like an option team. I was thinking about that the last few days and my less than stellar football education tells me to limit the damage you have to be gap sound and trust each other to make the play. It comes down to one on one tackling(which will be an issue) but "flowing to the ball" can get you killed in this situation.

I used cliche terms(and maybe incorrectly) but it was easier than writing out entire definitions of what I think should happen.

Treating them like an option team just tags each player on defense with a specific offensive player they are responsible for and limits the defensive formations and movement. You pretty much run with the same personnel regardless of the offensive groupings and you recognize they're just trying to do the same things out of different formations.

See GA Southern when Heagle dismantled their triple option.

I would assume that they spent a good majority of last week scheming for Mont State...as they knew how bad Drake was. So I hope we're not just trying to install a different defense 5 days before the game.

But I also would think that Entz could very well be bold face lying, or at least keeping MSU guessing, because there really is not a logical reason to put your defensive strategy out there for all to hear.

At the end of the day, the scheme is only half the battle. You have to have guys that can make plays. You can obviously do things that would put the players in a better position to be successful, but that still doesnt matter if you cant wrap up or make a play in space.

[cats2506]

Here’s hoping that Kittie FB is as inept as their media crew is

https://youtu.be/TdUqWLnzOnE?si=4igBaW3NTBFbtsAT

I don't know why they cant get a microphone for the press to ask their questions. I guess its because we are a STEM school and not a school of dance and music like the guys over the hill.

[TAILG8R]

I don't know why they cant get a microphone for the press to ask their questions. I guess its because we are a STEM school and not a school of dance and music like the guys over the hill.

Can they give us a camera angle where we don't have to see Vigen's nose hairs?

[TAILG8R]

Treating them like an option team just tags each player on defense with a specific offensive player they are responsible for and limits the defensive formations and movement. You pretty much run with the same personnel regardless of the offensive groupings and you recognize they're just trying to do the same things out of different formations.

See GA Southern when Heagle dismantled their triple option.

I would assume that they spent a good majority of last week scheming for Mont State...as they knew how bad Drake was. So I hope we're not just trying to install a different defense 5 days before the game.

But I also would think that Entz could very well be bold face lying, or at least keeping MSU guessing, because there really is not a logical reason to put your defensive strategy out there for all to hear.

At the end of the day, the scheme is only half the battle. You have to have guys that can make plays. You can obviously do things that would put the players in a better position to be successful, but that still doesnt matter if you cant wrap up or make a play in space.

My two biggest concerns on D are our ability to tackle one on one has been terrible and watching so many plays were the LB or safety coming up to fill a gap runs right at the blocker and dances with them while the ball carrier zips by.

[cats2506]

Can they give us a camera angle where we don't have to see Vigen's nose hairs?


https://youtu.be/x_F7DuljfTc?si=gP8vcXEQO3e16ljO

The one you had from Skyline is a zoom recording

[cats2506]

My two biggest concerns on D are our ability to tackle one on one has been terrible and watching so many plays were the LB or safety coming up to fill a gap runs right at the blocker and dances with them while the ball carrier zips by.

We seem to have had problems tackling as of late too.

[totoinfl]

5 Dimes has MSU favored by 1. Total of 59.

If the weather is clear, take the over. I see this as a shootout...I don't they can stop each other more than once or twice during the game.

[totoinfl]

Can we gamble on the over/under of total QB runs between the two teams? 35.5?

Yeah, take the over

[Gully]

I'm looking forward to a great game. My heart says the Bison have a chance but my head says the Cats will win. I just don't think we can stop their running game enough to win. I think our offense can score some...but will it be enough?

[bruinbison]

Here is the Bobcat two-deep:

https://twitter.com/VictorFlores406/status/1729200311192150116?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

I found the exchange immediately after interesting, especially since I didn’t get a chance to watch the Cat-Griz game



Roger Fischer
@rfischeresq
·Nov 27

Can you ask him if Chambers will start? It really seems like he should.



Victor Flores
@VictorFlores406
·Nov 27

Chambers is listed as the backup still. Vigen said he wants to play Chambers more than he played in the Brawl, but there’s no indication that Chambers will start.

[BisonHorns]

https://youtu.be/x_F7DuljfTc?si=gP8vcXEQO3e16ljO

The one you had from Skyline is a zoom recording

This video and Vigen look and sound like UNI's Mark Farley 10 years ago. Welcome to the crypt keeper!

[GrizAlum'10]

I don't know why they cant get a microphone for the press to ask their questions. I guess its because we are a STEM school and not a school of dance and music like the guys over the hill.

You realize the T in STEM stands for technology, right? Of course you don't, because you're a moron who didn't graduate from any institution of higher learning.

[tony]

Here is the Bobcat two-deep:

https://twitter.com/VictorFlores406/status/1729200311192150116?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

I found the exchange immediately after interesting, especially since I didn’t get a chance to watch the Cat-Griz game

That's a young team - a good sign for the Bobcats going forward.

[BiZon22]

That's a young team - a good sign for the Bobcats going forward.

Most bobcat fans feel that this will be their best chance at a title for a long time.

[BigHorns]

Most bobcat fans feel that this will be their best chance at a title for a long time.

What are they losing after this year?

[cbline]

What are they losing after this year?

If the Bison do well this weekend, perhaps their dignity, their sense of self-worth, their purpose in life . . .

[cats2506]

Most bobcat fans feel that this will be their best chance at a title for a long time.

I have felt that we should be better next year, and given the number of Seniors on both the NDSU and SDSU teams I think we should have a good shot next year

[cats2506]

What are they losing after this year?

Biggest loss is Chambers, then WR Thomas, On defense probably Price and Askelson.

[El_Chapo]

You realize the T in STEM stands for technology, right? Of course you don't, because you're a moron who didn't graduate from any institution of higher learning.

BAHAHAHA the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

[GreenfieldBison]

A little underdog dynasty article: https://www.underdogdynasty.com/2023/11/28/23972438/montana-state-bobcats-north-dakota-state-bison-fcs-playoffs-2023-preview-brent-vigen-tommy-mellott
and 406 sports: https://406mtsports.com/college/big-sky-conference/montana-state-university/montana-state-bobcats-taylor-housewright-football/article_084b1358-8e2c-11ee-b369-ef6d2ce78819.html
and this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brxD6iAWf9o

[Bisonator98]

Biggest loss is Chambers, then WR Thomas, On defense probably Price and Askelson.

What's the deal with Chambers? Is he hurt? Your OC had some strange comments about him in an article I read, almost sounded like he was in the dog house or something.

[El_Chapo]

he thinks its "TOUGH" to play at Bozeman? NDSU won't be intimidated by anywhere, cmon dude.

[cats2506]

What's the deal with Chambers? Is he hurt? Your OC had some strange comments about him in an article I read, almost sounded like he was in the dog house or something.

I don't know, he was limping in the EWU game but played, only played a little in real time against the dark pink, OC id kinda a dickhead so don't really know what is happening.

[BiZon22]

I have felt that we should be better next year, and given the number of Seniors on both the NDSU and SDSU teams I think we should have a good shot next year

I don’t disagree. Just what I have read on AGS and Reddit

[SoCalBison]

Has anyone heard more about possible national TV coverage of a Saturday afternoon FCS playoff game, per Izzo's report in the Forum the other day?

[Bisonator98]

Has anyone heard more about possible national TV coverage of a Saturday afternoon FCS playoff game, per Izzo's report in the Forum the other day?

That's next week in the quarterfinal round.

[Honeybooboo]

he thinks its "TOUGH" to play at Bozeman? NDSU won't be intimidated by anywhere, cmon dude.

You sure??? I love NDSU but we will see, not the same Athletes/coaches from 2010-2019...different animal, hopefully they hit another gear and open this bitch up which I know we can if the coaches don't get in their way. I, more worried about NDSU getting a 2 score lead and TR freezing and going conservative playing not to lose which nearly always results in not winning.

[GreenfieldBison]

You sure??? I love NDSU but we will see, not the same Athletes/coaches from 2010-2019...different animal, hopefully they hit another gear and open this bitch up which I know we can if the coaches don't get in their way. I, more worried about NDSU getting a 2 score lead and TR freezing and going conservative playing not to lose which nearly always results in not winning.
See Day, Ryan.

[Honeybooboo]

See Day, Ryan.

I should clarify im calling a 7point win for NDSU hopefully more, but would not be shocked to be run out of the stadium either...

[Bison03]

The 4 other times NDSU has played, and blown out, Montana St in the playoffs:


2021: 38-10
2019: 42-14
2018: 52-10
2010: 42-17

[Honeybooboo]

The 4 other times NDSU has played, and blown out, Montana St in the playoffs:


2021: 38-10
2019: 42-14
2018: 52-10
2010: 42-17

None of those teams are like the current, I hope I'm wrong and will definitely eat boiled crow.

[SoCalBison]

That's next week in the quarterfinal round.

Thanks, I read it too quickly.

[SDbison]

The 4 other times NDSU has played, and blown out, Montana St in the playoffs:


2021: 38-10
2019: 42-14
2018: 52-10
2010: 42-17 Doubt very much the Bison can hold them to 17 or less in this game. I would be thrilled to see us hold them to 24 or less. If the weather is as forecasted, wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts over 30 mph and 30% chance of snow, things may get interesting for NDSU to score as much as they need to win.

[Kevin]

None of those teams are like the current, I hope I'm wrong and will definitely eat boiled crow.

Would be curious to know where those teams ranked in tackling those years.

[TAILG8R]

Doubt very much the Bison can hold them to 17 or less in this game. I would be thrilled to see us hold them to 24 or less. If the weather is as forecasted, wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts over 30 mph and 30% chance of snow, things may get interesting for NDSU to score as much as they need to win.

Did the forecast change drastically? It was going to be 40 and low wind.


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[SDbison]

Did the forecast change drastically? It was going to be 40 and low wind.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This is the current National Weather Service forecast for Saturday in Bozeman, MT:
A 30 percent chance of snow after noon. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 37. South southwest wind 10 to 18 mph, with gusts as high as 31 mph. New snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible.

[Honeybooboo]

Would be curious to know where those teams ranked in tackling those years.

If I said better would that count..or would exceptional be preferable

[El_Chapo]

It’s in the BAG…. No worries about this game

[NI4NI]

It’s in the BAG…. No worries about this game

Great. But I'm still gonna watch it.

[cats2506]

Has anyone heard more about possible national TV coverage of a Saturday afternoon FCS playoff game, per Izzo's report in the Forum the other day?

So. Ill @ Idaho is on ESPN2 & ESPN+ 10PM EST

[cats2506]

Did the forecast change drastically? It was going to be 40 and low wind.


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Weather looks good

https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?w0=t&w1=td&w2=wc&w3=sfcwind&w3u=1&w4=sky&w5=pop&w6=rh&w7=rain&w8=thunder&w9=snow&w10=fzg&w11=sleet&w13u=0&w15u=1&AheadHour=29&Submit=Submit&FcstType=graphical&textField1=45.6793&textField2=-111.0323&site=all&unit=0&dd=&bw=

High 30's Winds 16 mph gusting to 24

Bring a bottle of Fireball

[GreenfieldBison]

Here's a little Bobcat Insider with HCBV


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=772lo18TkIk

[SDbison]

For reference I watched the NDSU - Montana State national championship game last night. This year's Bison team is so different and not in a good way (slower, less confident, more mistake prone, poor tackling, lack of energy / fire, and not as physical / dominant). The team that beat Montana State had a defense that gave up some yards in chunks, but unlike this year's team would eventually make drive ending plays. The offense had Luepke, Watson, Gindorf and Babicz to make big plays. Miller did well then and has improved this year. Patterson's role is somewhat like Payton currently provides. In summary, this years offense has issues executing when playing big games, and the defense just can't make stops at critical times. On Saturday without some help on turnovers, and/or special teams making something good happen it looks like Montana State will win this game. Even with their recent struggles they still have home field advantage, lots of motivation to get a win and the Bison are not what they once were. Hope somehow they prove me wrong, show up with an attitude and play their best game.

[NDSU_grad]

For reference I watched the NDSU - Montana State national championship game last night. This year's Bison team is so different and not in a good way (slower, less confident, more mistake prone, poor tackling, lack of energy / fire, and not as physical / dominant). The team that beat Montana State had a defense that gave up some yards in chunks, but unlike this year's team would eventually make drive ending plays. The offense had Luepke, Watson, Gindorf and Babicz to make big plays. Miller did well then and has improved this year. Patterson's role is somewhat like Payton currently provides. In summary, this years offense has issues executing when playing big games, and the defense just can't make stops at critical times. On Saturday without some help on turnovers, and/or special teams making something good happen it looks like Montana State will win this game. Even with their recent struggles they still have home field advantage, lots of motivation to get a win and the Bison are not what they once were. Hope somehow they prove me wrong, show up with an attitude and play their best game.
This is exactly how I feel going into this game. We have to force some turnovers(which we’ve been pretty good at) and special teams has to play well (which we haven’t been good at) to win.

[tony]

For reference I watched the NDSU - Montana State national championship game last night. This year's Bison team is so different and not in a good way (slower, less confident, more mistake prone, poor tackling, lack of energy / fire, and not as physical / dominant). The team that beat Montana State had a defense that gave up some yards in chunks, but unlike this year's team would eventually make drive ending plays. The offense had Luepke, Watson, Gindorf and Babicz to make big plays. Miller did well then and has improved this year. Patterson's role is somewhat like Payton currently provides. In summary, this years offense has issues executing when playing big games, and the defense just can't make stops at critical times. On Saturday without some help on turnovers, and/or special teams making something good happen it looks like Montana State will win this game. Even with their recent struggles they still have home field advantage, lots of motivation to get a win and the Bison are not what they once were. Hope somehow they prove me wrong, show up with an attitude and play their best game.

Against Drake, the defense was getting away with just diving at people shoulders first and making no attempt to wrap up. I doubt that'll work against Montana State. Heck, the second and third stringers were tackling better, for the most part.

On the plus side, Southern Illinois and Northern Iowa were huge games and the defense came to play for them. I don't care what people say about UNI, but beating them at their place on senior day was a pretty big deal.

[SDbison]

Against Drake, the defense was getting away with just diving at people shoulders first and making no attempt to wrap up. I doubt that'll work against Montana State. Heck, the second and third stringers were tackling better, for the most part.

On the plus side, Southern Illinois and Northern Iowa were huge games and the defense came to play for them. I don't care what people say about UNI, but beating them at their place on senior day was a pretty big deal.I too noticed the difference (better tackling) by the 2nd and 3rd stringers near the end of the Drake game. Tried to figure out how that happens, or if just wrongly perceived by me. Are the younger guys better motivated, less entitled, or more talented? They are all coached the same. Maybe they play more instinctively and are less incumbered by complicated defenses (I believe CAS will agree with this). Gives me hope for future Bison defenses, but then who knows if coaching eventually holds them back.

[El_Chapo]

Against Drake, the defense was getting away with just diving at people shoulders first and making no attempt to wrap up. I doubt that'll work against Montana State. Heck, the second and third stringers were tackling better, for the most part.

On the plus side, Southern Illinois and Northern Iowa were huge games and the defense came to play for them. I don't care what people say about UNI, but beating them at their place on senior day was a pretty big deal.


TONY is absolutely correct here, I think that was the MOJO this team needed for this road playoff run.

[tony]

I too noticed the difference (better tackling) by the 2nd and 3rd stringers near the end of the Drake game. Tried to figure out how that happens, or if just wrongly perceived by me. Are the younger guys better motivated, less entitled, or more talented? They are all coached the same. Maybe they play more instinctively and are less incumbered by complicated defenses (I believe CAS will agree with this). Gives me hope for future Bison defenses, but then who knows if coaching eventually holds them back.

I generally assume that when guys tackle like that they are banged up and/or gassed. Younger guys are fresher in both respects.

Anyway, it'd be awesome to win this game because I'm pretty sick of the "NDSU is a terrible playoff road team" drivel.

[cbline]

I generally assume that when guys tackle like that they are banged up and/or gassed. Younger guys are fresher in both respects.

Anyway, it'd be awesome to win this game because I'm pretty sick of the "NDSU is a terrible playoff road team" drivel.

Not much of a sample size for that claim.

[THEsocalledfan]

Not much of a sample size for that claim.

Particularly if you throw out the fake spring crap.

[tony]

Not much of a sample size for that claim.

It doesn't make any sense either.

a. Historically, only one team has been good on the road in the playoffs: Youngstown State (I think that they got screwed because they were independent for most of those wins.)
b. Yes, NDSU is 1-2, but the reason those teams were on the road because they were an unseeded team playing a seeded team.
c. Yes, NDSU is 1-2, but the two teams they lost to, one in OT and one where NDSU had a 4th quarter lead, went on to win national championships.
d. NDSU is 9-1 on neutral site games against the best of the best. Neutral site games played 1000 miles away are not home games.

[barnwintersportsengelstad]

It’s in the BAG…. No worries about this game

10343
Holes
10 char

[heffray]

10343
Holes
10 char

How does the bag look for your second round game?

[TAILG8R]

How does the bag look for your second round game?

He found that image while searching “sack hole” so I guess you have your answer. lol.


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[heffray]

He found that image while searching “sack hole” so I guess you have your answer. lol.


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Everyone has their kinks. Who am I to judge?

[steelbison]

That's a young team - a good sign for the Bobcats going forward.

Very young and Vigen recruits. We are the opposite kleiman recruits playing and very few Entz recruits making a difference.

Vigen has done very well. I believe they have two actual true freshman starting.


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[El_Chapo]

Lets kick some fucking cat ass tomorrow!!!!

[El_Chapo]

10343
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10 char

how did you get your MOM's Bag IZZY used the other night??

[El_Chapo]

Montana State might be distracted with this! Tommy Mellott's GF is a GRIZ Cheerleader??

Outkick even picked it up hahaha

https://www.outkick.com/montana-state-qb-tommy-mellott-girlfriend-andi-newbrough-photos/

She went Private! BOOO https://www.instagram.com/andinewbrough/

https://www.google.com/search?q=+Andi+Newbrough&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwig9qLy6-6CAxV4wskDHSmXBSUQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=+Andi+Newbrough&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQA1DOCFjOCGCFD2gAcAB4AIABogOIAaUEkgE HMC4xLjQtMZgBAKABAaoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1nwAEB&sclient=img&ei=liJqZaDTLfiEp84Pqa6WqAI&bih=390&biw=865&client=firefox-b-1-e#imgrc=_JMI4UNleZjPjM


#WOULD

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[NI4NI]

Montana State might be distracted with this! Tommy Mellott's GF is a GRIZ Cheerleader??

Outkick even picked it up hahaha

https://www.outkick.com/montana-state-qb-tommy-mellott-girlfriend-andi-newbrough-photos/

She went Private! BOOO https://www.instagram.com/andinewbrough/

https://www.google.com/search?q=+Andi+Newbrough&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwig9qLy6-6CAxV4wskDHSmXBSUQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=+Andi+Newbrough&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQA1DOCFjOCGCFD2gAcAB4AIABogOIAaUEkgE HMC4xLjQtMZgBAKABAaoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1nwAEB&sclient=img&ei=liJqZaDTLfiEp84Pqa6WqAI&bih=390&biw=865&client=firefox-b-1-e#imgrc=_JMI4UNleZjPjM


#WOULD

10346

Ahhhhhh, plowing with the enemy! LOL


It's all good. My buddy's nephew (Trevor Gebhart) married a Georgia Southern cheerleader (Carla Metts), so it happens here too!

[LefseBison]

Ahhhhhh, plowing with the enemy! LOL


It's all good. My buddy's nephew (Trevor Gebhart) married a Georgia Southern cheerleader (Carla Metz), so it happens here too!

I seem to recall that story from a long time ago. She was a beauty!.

[NI4NI]

I seem to recall that story from a long time ago. She was a beauty!.

Still is!
https://www.google.com/search?q=carla+metts+gebhart&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjBzMyXj--CAxWaxMkDHQzQDi0Q2-cCegQIABAA&oq=carla+metts&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQARgBMgQIIxAnMgUIABCABFAAWABgiQpoAHA AeACAAXSIAXSSAQMwLjGYAQCqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=mEdqZcGgEJqJp84PjKC76AI&bih=732&biw=1600&rlz=1C1ARAB_enUS504US578

They're in Charlotte now.

[MyOhMy]

PFF ranks NDSU at 102 in the FCS at tackling, that's just pathetic. I know I throw a lot of shit Cam's way (and some of the things he does drive me crazy) but he IS good enough that the Bison would not have lost 3 games if the defense had the discipline to make the correct read to cover the correct gap, wrap up and make easy tackles, complete sacks instead of letting QBs escape and stop short gains from becoming long ones. If the Bison fix the tackling issues we've had all season we win this one, if not it's going to be a long afternoon.

[runtheoption]

PFF ranks NDSU at 102 in the FCS at tackling, that's just pathetic. I know I throw a lot of shit Cam's way (and some of the things he does drive me crazy) but he IS good enough that the Bison would not have lost 3 games if the defense had the discipline to make the correct read to cover the correct gap, wrap up and make easy tackles, complete sacks instead of letting QBs escape and stop short gains from becoming long ones. If the Bison fix the tackling issues we've had all season we win this one, if not it's going to be a long afternoon.

The thing that baffles me with our defense is it seems like our guys are almost always in the right spot/gap on runs and are putting heavy pressure on the QB, but are trying to make arm tackles or simply don't wrap up and just throw a shoulder at them.

I said it in another thread -- I am expecting a huge shootout. #1 (them) and #3 (us) scoring offenses, #3 (them) and #6 (us) YPG offenses. We are also the #3 red zone offense. I would put the over/under at 87, and 1st team to 40 wins. The Cats are gonna run for 250+ on us, and Cam is gonna throw for 300+ for us.

However, if we play defense like Bison of old, we blow these guys out on Saturday. If that's the case, the over/under is well under 87 if our defense steps up.

[CAS4127]

The thing that baffles me with our defense is it seems like our guys are almost always in the right spot/gap on runs and are putting heavy pressure on the QB, but are trying to make arm tackles or simply don't wrap up and just throw a shoulder at them.

I said it in another thread -- I am expecting a huge shootout. #1 (them) and #3 (us) scoring offenses, #3 (them) and #6 (us) YPG offenses. We are also the #3 red zone offense. I would put the over/under at 87, and 1st team to 40 wins. The Cats are gonna run for 250+ on us, and Cam is gonna throw for 300+ for us.

However, if we play defense like Bison of old, we blow these guys out on Saturday. If that's the case, the over/under is well under 87 if our defense steps up.

At 87, the team with 40 loses. Are you that poor at math? /p

[runtheoption]

At 87, the team with 40 loses. Are you that poor at math? /p

Me thinks you don't understand how "the first team to X points" works...

GD lawyers.

[cats2506]

Montana State might be distracted with this! Tommy Mellott's GF is a GRIZ Cheerleader??

Outkick even picked it up hahaha

https://www.outkick.com/montana-state-qb-tommy-mellott-girlfriend-andi-newbrough-photos/

She went Private! BOOO https://www.instagram.com/andinewbrough/

https://www.google.com/search?q=+Andi+Newbrough&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwig9qLy6-6CAxV4wskDHSmXBSUQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=+Andi+Newbrough&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQA1DOCFjOCGCFD2gAcAB4AIABogOIAaUEkgE HMC4xLjQtMZgBAKABAaoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1nwAEB&sclient=img&ei=liJqZaDTLfiEp84Pqa6WqAI&bih=390&biw=865&client=firefox-b-1-e#imgrc=_JMI4UNleZjPjM


#WOULD

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Old news, they have been a couple for at least 3 years, She is on the Dance Squad, not a cheerleader

[mtoutfitter]

Old news, they have been a couple for at least 3 years, She is on the Dance Squad, not a cheerleader

Apparently you'e not up to speed on Lakes' drivel. He thinks he's some kind of insider with breaking stories.

[CAS4127]

Me thinks you don't understand how "the first team to X points" works...

GD lawyers.

@87 the first team to 44 wins every time. @ 40, assuming 87 is the number (it’s yours) the 40 team never wins.

May I have an audience please?

I rest my case.

Maybe /p. Or should we do blue for for fun bickering?

[Jim Puetz]

Hey, stop bitchin on this thread. We're going to beat the Bobcats tomorrow. And then we are going to beat the next team we have to play. And then we will beat some team in the semifinals and head back to our Southern home residence and beat the friggin Jagoffrabbits. Go Bison!!!

[mtoutfitter]

Hey, stop bitchin on this thread. We're going to beat the Bobcats tomorrow. And then we are going to beat the next team we have to play. And then we will beat some team in the semifinals and head back to our Southern home residence and beat the friggin Jagoffrabbits. Go Bison!!!

I like the way you think. I feel better now so I'm gonna go to the Legion and drink till I can't see....wake up tomorrow and cheer on the Bison!

[89MTBISON]

Win or lose will be decided by two things. Avoid third and long on offense, get off the field on third down on defense. We'll know the answer to these questions before the end of the 1st quarter. Gonna be windy, run the ball. Off to Bozangeles. Go Bison.

[56BISON73]

I like the way you think. I feel better now so I'm gonna go to the Legion and drink till I can't see....wake up tomorrow and cheer on the Bison!

Tell Art and the guys HI!!!!!!!!!

[Kujava23]

Hey Question for you....what is NDSU's record the last two years when werent favored by over -7 pts?

El CHAPO ...give me the numbers

[BisonHorns]

Is it tomorrow yet?

[Kevin]

Is it tomorrow yet?

In the Atlantic somewhere bro.

[MyOhMy]

Gonna be windy, run the ball. Off to Bozangeles. Go Bison.

Right now, I'm seeing a prediction of ~8-10mph S to SW wind at kickoff through 6pm BUT there's now a 50/50 chance of flurries by 3pm MST... soooo it should be fine throwing weather, maybe running gets a little sketchy if those flurries show up and strengthen at all.

[THEsocalledfan]

Is it tomorrow yet?

Yes.........

[Jim Puetz]

Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Beat the Bobkittens! We're the Mighty Bison, Who the F are U!! I don't give a flyin F what happened in the first season, this is the second season and we own the second season. Get yourself ready for a great game. Grab a bloody mary or two, get a couple of shots in you, and start getting excited for your favorite football team to win!

[GreenfieldBison]

Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Beat the Bobkittens! We're the Mighty Bison, Who the F are U!! I don't give a flyin F what happened in the first season, this is the second season and we own the second season. Get yourself ready for a great game. Grab a bloody mary or two, get a couple of shots in you, and start getting excited for your favorite football team to win!
Hey Jim - take it over to the GDT - hef is workin hard so let's keep synced up. Kevin is already working on the post game list.

GO BISON!!

[bisonaudit]

If we can score 27 we might have a chance.

I’m not worried about scoring so much. It’s how many we’re going to give up that’s a bigger concern for me.

[heffray]

I’m not worried about scoring so much. It’s how many we’re going to give up that’s a bigger concern for me.

Samesies. . .

[El_Chapo]

GOTTA STACK THE BOX & MAKE MSU THROW

4-3 STACKED. Trust the Safeties to help with corners.

PERIOD END OF STORY.

[El_Chapo]

Hey Question for you....what is NDSU's record the last two years when werent favored by over -7 pts?

El CHAPO ...give me the numbers

at Arizona NDSU was +5
at SDSU NDSU was + 8
at UNI NDSU was -3

so 2-1 ATS

[Kevin]

Not gonna be around much for this one bros. Extremely ill (negative for coof) and they thought possibly a reaction to some new bp meds (fuck these, seriously). But then spiked 104+ fever last night. Currently fighting my wife to avoid an ER trip PL please send 55 gr 223.

I’ll get the post game thread up early.

If you don’t see it I’m dead lol

[mtoutfitter]

Not gonna be around much for this one bros. Extremely ill (negative for coof) and they thought possibly a reaction to some new bp meds (fuck these, seriously). But then spiked 104+ fever last night. Currently fighting my wife to avoid an ER trip PL please send 55 gr 223.

I’ll get the post game thread up early.

If you don’t see it I’m dead lol

117 gr 25-06 work?

[GreenfieldBison]

Not gonna be around much for this one bros. Extremely ill (negative for coof) and they thought possibly a reaction to some new bp meds (fuck these, seriously). But then spiked 104+ fever last night. Currently fighting my wife to avoid an ER trip PL please send 55 gr 223.

I’ll get the post game thread up early.

If you don’t see it I’m dead lol

If you’re at 104 it’s time to go
Or just take that ice bath.

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[heffray]

Not gonna be around much for this one bros. Extremely ill (negative for coof) and they thought possibly a reaction to some new bp meds (fuck these, seriously). But then spiked 104+ fever last night. Currently fighting my wife to avoid an ER trip PL please send 55 gr 223.

I’ll get the post game thread up early.

If you don’t see it I’m dead lol

Shit bud. In all seriousness go in. We need you around here.

/Sincerity

[Kevin]

117 gr 25-06 work?

No I am a man.

[Kevin]

Shit bud. In all seriousness go in. We need you around here.

/Sincerity

Think about the financials here with 1-1-24 looming lol

And insurance that started in October.

[Kevin]

If you’re at 104 it’s time to go
Or just take that ice bath.

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Fever broke this morning after an epic Roman Empire hallucination I’ll pm you details later.

[Kevin]

Actually it’s creeping back up now I might just live blog this game in a state of higher conscious.

[mtoutfitter]

Tell Art and the guys HI!!!!!!!!!

Art says Hello

[mtoutfitter]

No I am a man.

Thought maybe you were just a prairie dog or coyote since you were wanting the 55 gr 223. :biggrin:

[Kevin]

Thought maybe you were just a prairie dog or coyote since you were wanting the 55 gr 223. :biggrin:

She’s a 120 pound woman bro. I also need be conscious of collateral damage because I always empty the mag (that’s a clip heffy).

Always.

[heffray]

She’s a 120 pound woman bro. I also need be conscious of collateral damage because I always empty the mag (that’s a clip heffy).

Always.

I’m not following any of this but I wish all of you the best of luck.

[Kevin]

Mercer sucks bro why I am watching this.

[Kevin]

I should note I am not going to kill the wife and mother of my children.

I am going to lay suppressive fire to deter her from taking me to a forced vaccination center.