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KC_Hats
06-29-2023, 03:20 AM
The NDSU Football team has created a NIL. I saw the Tweet tonight. Go Bison!

https://nilclub.com/north-dakota-state/football

SDbison
06-29-2023, 03:44 AM
Won't support this until NDSU Football moves to FBS. And maybe not even then. NIL and the transfer portal have made a mess of college sports.

El_Chapo
06-29-2023, 06:54 AM
not bad. but I'm with SD BISON

you go FBS. we will be fundraising like no other.

CaBisonFan
06-29-2023, 08:41 AM
Won't support this until NDSU Football moves to FBS. And maybe not even then. NIL and the transfer portal have made a mess of college sports.It's a disaster. As a coach... if you look at a player wrong... or bench them for disciplinary reasons... or yell at them... or limit their playing time... they gone.

bisonaudit
06-29-2023, 11:41 AM
It's a disaster. As a coach... if you look at a player wrong... or bench them for disciplinary reasons... or yell at them... or limit their playing time... they gone.

Yeah it’s suddenly a tough world out there for bad coaches who treat their players like shit. Cry me a river.

BigHorns
06-29-2023, 11:44 AM
This website is a joke if you look at the other teams and moneys raised.
https://nilclub.com

The top team there is giving players $15 each.

Better to take some players out for dinner and a few beers.

scottietohottie
06-29-2023, 12:11 PM
Yeah it’s suddenly a tough world out there for bad coaches who treat their players like shit. Cry me a river.

Not just guaranteed a fcs natty eh?

NDSU92
06-29-2023, 12:22 PM
This website is a joke if you look at the other teams and moneys raised.
https://nilclub.com

The top team there is giving players $15 each.

Better to take some players out for dinner and a few beers.

$15 a month is better than $0 a month for a college kid. Who knows, donate and maybe it takes off, could be a huge recruiting tool.

56BISON73
06-29-2023, 07:30 PM
I already donate enough. May some others can donate who have been riding on the coat tails of others.

Kevin
06-29-2023, 07:32 PM
I already donate enough. May some others can donate who have been riding on the coat tails of others.

whose coat has tails bro? it's 2022 come on.

even that goofy shit tab wears ain't got tails

HerdBot
06-30-2023, 12:13 AM
EDIT.

If you want to donate, join the real collective endorsed by NDSU Athletics

https://thegreenandthegold.com/

Not a lame one that 30% goes to administrative costs and takes 30% of $1,500 to split $1,050 between 118 players for a whoppimg $8.89 per month

The Green and the Gold Collective wants to raise hundreds of thousands to millions

Kevin
06-30-2023, 12:13 AM
This is great news. Now we just need a big donation from a big swinging dick like Burgum or Gary Tharaldson. :rofl:

Spread the word

I bet those weirdos have tails.

HerdBot
06-30-2023, 12:23 AM
This website is a joke if you look at the other teams and moneys raised.
https://nilclub.com



Better to take some players out for dinner and a few beers.

If you do the math, it takes 250k to fund 63 full cost of attendance paynents at 4 grand.

Now try to get an extra 1 grand a year for 115 players and its 115k or $9,583 per month

It's gonna take a while without a big donor...

EDIT.

If you want to donate, join the real collective endorsed by NDSU Athletics

https://thegreenandthegold.com/

Not a lame one that 30% goes to administrative costs and takes 30% of $1,500 to split $1,050 between 118 players for a whoppimg $8.89 per month

The Green and the Gold Collective wants to raise hundreds of thousands to millions

BigHorns
06-30-2023, 01:24 AM
If you do the math, it takes 250k to fund 63 full cost of attendance paynents at 4 grand.

Now try to get an extra 1 grand a year for 115 players and its 115k or $9,583 per month

It's gonna take a while without a big donor...


Sure, just saying most of the serious NIL stuff is started by big donors, this won't move the needle.
None of the teams on that site have raised anything too significant.

The website also sort of has the flavor of players setting out the coffee can and collecting nickels.
That's not going to change recruiting, maybe give the players an extra McDonalds or Starbucks each month.

Truly big donors will just setup their own thing, and not give 15% of the moneys to this site.

NDSU92
06-30-2023, 12:29 PM
Will be interesting to see what the exclusive content ends up being, if there ends up being anything. I could see a weekly or monthly virtual panel or something being low-hanging fruit that I would be interested in. Potentially a post-game exclusive area in (or outside) the Dome for NIL contributors. The players have the power to control it so where they take it is up to them.

NDSU92
06-30-2023, 01:32 PM
Also, for those of you who hate Matt Larsen, this is a great way for you to bypass the administration in the support of the student athletes. Although it seems like a lot of people who complain about Matt Larsen also complain about the student athletes.

Which makes me wonder what the hell you’re doing here anyways lol

BigHorns
06-30-2023, 08:12 PM
Also, for those of you who hate Matt Larsen, this is a great way for you to bypass the administration in the support of the student athletes. Although it seems like a lot of people who complain about Matt Larsen also complain about the student athletes.

Which makes me wonder what the hell you’re doing here anyways lol


Personally think ML and NDSU do a fabulous job raising funds and taking care of the athletes.
How many other FCS programs are paying out COA money on top of the scholarship? That covers a lot of the extras needed in school.

I don't even mind chipping in a few $ here. Just feel it would be more effectively spent in a targeted way.

I'd rather help sponsor a nice dinner and drinks for a few key guys than give everyone a milkshake. Just my opinion.

B.Schlossman Fan Club
07-01-2023, 04:34 AM
This is great news. Now we just need a big donation from a big swinging dick like Burgum or Gary Tharaldson. :rofl:

Spread the word

Lakes will make the call, he hooks those big wigs up with tickets all the time or at least in frisco that one time. Can say no to Harold Hamm just like they can’t say no to Lakes!

mtoutfitter
07-01-2023, 10:39 PM
Done! Go Bison!

HerdBot
07-02-2023, 01:16 AM
Personally think ML and NDSU do a fabulous job raising funds and taking care of the athletes.
How many other FCS programs are paying out COA money on top of the scholarship? That covers a lot of the extras needed in school.

I don't even mind chipping in a few $ here. Just feel it would be more effectively spent in a targeted way.

I'd rather help sponsor a nice dinner and drinks for a few key guys than give everyone a milkshake. Just my opinion.

I hear you but you couldnt really buy them dinner because that would be an NCAA violation

Honestly if it ends up being only $100 a month (or 1200 a year) for 115 players, that's impactful to a broke ass college kid who is too busy to work. College is full time and football is damn near a full time job

A full ride gets the full cost of attendance and a partial gets partial full cost of attendance payment. But walk ons don't get any of that so it will really help them. You can buy a lot of peanut butter sandwiches to put on weight with an extra $100 a month, use it towards gas, rent, or have fun and buy some alcohol, hookers, or weed in Moorhead August 1st :rofl:

Professor Chaos
07-02-2023, 05:33 AM
Glad to see someone is taking the initiative here even if it is the players and not the boosters. There are already NIL collectives springing up amongst FCS schools:

https://twitter.com/WinterSportsLaw/status/1659637312911712256

https://maroonfunds.com/

https://bobcatcollective.com/

https://www.supportrepthec.com/

If everyone donates $5 a month for every football season ticket (guessing they have about 10k tickets sold by the available seat map) that's $400+ a month going to every player on the roster. Stick your head in the sand if you want and pretend this isn't a thing but it's not going away and that's a monster recruiting tool for a school at NDSU's level.

SDbison
07-02-2023, 03:42 PM
Glad to see someone is taking the initiative here even if it is the players and not the boosters. There are already NIL collectives springing up amongst FCS schools:

https://twitter.com/WinterSportsLaw/status/1659637312911712256

https://maroonfunds.com/

https://bobcatcollective.com/

https://www.supportrepthec.com/

If everyone donates $5 a month for every football season ticket (guessing they have about 10k tickets sold by the available seat map) that's $400+ a month going to every player on the roster. Stick your head in the sand if you want and pretend this isn't a thing but it's not going away and that's a monster recruiting tool for a school at NDSU's level.I will tell them where to stick it!

HerdBot
07-02-2023, 05:19 PM
Glad to see someone is taking the initiative here even if it is the players and not the boosters. There are already NIL collectives springing up amongst FCS schools:

https://twitter.com/WinterSportsLaw/status/1659637312911712256

https://maroonfunds.com/

https://bobcatcollective.com/

https://www.supportrepthec.com/

If everyone donates $5 a month for every football season ticket (guessing they have about 10k tickets sold by the available seat map) that's $400+ a month going to every player on the roster. Stick your head in the sand if you want and pretend this isn't a thing but it's not going away and that's a monster recruiting tool for a school at NDSU's level.

This ^

$400 a month in spending cash would be game changing for walk ons, partial scholarships, and full rides. It will help with retention, less time working a part time job and more time focused on school and football. It's not going to prevent kids from being poached from power 5 schools, but will help retain others and close deals when comparing scholarship offers. Between FCOA and NIL, that would be nearly 9 grand a year cash

If in starte tuition is 10 grand and a walk on gets 4800 in NIL money...

SDbison
07-03-2023, 02:34 AM
This ^

$400 a month in spending cash would be game changing for walk ons, partial scholarships, and full rides. It will help with retention, less time working a part time job and more time focused on school and football. It's not going to prevent kids from being poached from power 5 schools, but will help retain others and close deals when comparing scholarship offers. Between FCOA and NIL, that would be nearly 9 grand a year cash

If in starte tuition is 10 grand and a walk on gets 4800 in NIL money... Just say no to NIL.

HerdBot
07-03-2023, 02:38 AM
Just say no to NIL.

On principle, I dont like it but everyone is doing it. Either embrace it or float to the bottom with the turds

SDbison
07-03-2023, 12:03 PM
On principle, I dont like it but everyone is doing it. Either embrace it or float to the bottom with the turds So how does this work when the "skill" players get thousands of dollars from several sources and the lineman maybe get hundreds? Doubt that creates a feeling of team unity. How about all the lack of loyalty with players transferring to get more money? What a joke! About ready to pull my support of so called college athletics unless something is done to end this crap! Hope others will do the same.

GreenfieldBison
07-03-2023, 12:34 PM
So how does this work when the "skill" players get thousands of dollars from several sources and the lineman maybe get hundreds? Doubt that creates a feeling of team unity. How about all the lack of loyalty with players transferring to get more money? What a joke! About ready to pull my support of so called college athletics unless something is done to end this crap! Hope others will do the same.

Sounds like a pretty accurate reflection of the real world these players will matriculate to after their collegiate career. Everybody getting the same is a bit socialist is it not? Don't we live in a meritocracy? If you are born with "skill" or light colored skin you are just better off from the get go.

- Perhaps the so called "skill" players with outsized rewards can do a little wealth sharing on their own (philanthropy).
- Or the NIL club could "tax" all of the NIL "income" and redistribute the proceeds based on need rather than merit.

Professor Chaos
07-03-2023, 12:37 PM
So how does this work when the "skill" players get thousands of dollars from several sources and the lineman maybe get hundreds? Doubt that creates a feeling of team unity. How about all the lack of loyalty with players transferring to get more money? What a joke! About ready to pull my support of so called college athletics unless something is done to end this crap! Hope others will do the same.
Those "several sources" can spend their money how they see fit as can you if you choose to take it elsewhere. This NIL Club splits the money evenly between every player on the roster.

NDSU92
07-03-2023, 01:50 PM
If NDSU had an established NIL culture last year, the two individuals receiving the most specific contributions would’ve been a left tackle and a glorified fullback…

And has been said, this club splits it evenly from starting QB to youngest walk-on. I suppose you’ll freak out about that being socialist now.

HerdBot
07-03-2023, 02:46 PM
So how does this work when the "skill" players get thousands of dollars from several sources and the lineman maybe get hundreds? Doubt that creates a feeling of team unity. How about all the lack of loyalty with players transferring to get more money? What a joke! About ready to pull my support of so called college athletics unless something is done to end this crap! Hope others will do the same.

The world isnt fair. You can either be Carson Wentz or the 3rd string QB. Scheels wont pay the 3rd string for a TV commercial and most reasonable people understand that.

We cant control what hasnt happened yet but for now a team collective is fair

scottietohottie
07-03-2023, 02:51 PM
The world isnt fair. You can either be Carson Wentz or the 3rd string QB. Scheels wont pay the 3rd string for a TV commercial and most reasonable people understand that.

We cant control what hasnt happened yet but for now a team collective is fair

Are you trying to say hunting and fishing is better then being a third string quarterback?

Going to need this analogy broken down a little eh.

HerdBot
07-03-2023, 03:38 PM
We've already grabbed the top spot on the platform after 3 days with no major media plugs or shares

daddy daycare
07-03-2023, 03:41 PM
not bad. but I'm with SD BISON

you go FBS. we will be fundraising like no other.

The 2 geniuses have spoken. Lead us to the promised land.

heffray
07-03-2023, 03:50 PM
Won't support this until NDSU Football moves to FBS. And maybe not even then. NIL and the transfer portal have made a mess of college sports.

not bad. but I'm with SD BISON

you go FBS. we will be fundraising like no other.

I don’t think that’s how this works at all… you show your support at this level and it gives the decision makers (both NDSU AND other FBS conferences) a reason to believe we will succeed at the next level. Then you go next level and you increase your support.

I don’t understand the “I’m not supporting my favorite sports team unless they do what I want in a system they had no control over” bullshit. Makes me wonder if you were ever really a fan to begin with.

I will support and love Bison Football until the day I die as I’d do it if they were NAIA.

TAILG8R
07-03-2023, 03:57 PM
I don’t think that’s how this works at all… you show your support at this level and it gives the decision makers (both NDSU AND other FBS conferences) a reason to believe we will succeed at the next level. Then you go next level and you increase your support.

I don’t understand the “I’m not supporting my favorite sports team unless they do what I want in a system they had no control over” bullshit. Makes me wonder if you were ever really a fan to begin with.

I will support and love Bison Football until the day I die as I’d do it if they were NAIA.

Spoiled little snowflakes

unbison
07-03-2023, 03:57 PM
I don’t think that’s how this works at all… you show your support at this level and it gives the decision makers (both NDSU AND other FBS conferences) a reason to believe we will succeed at the next level. Then you go next level and you increase your support.

I don’t understand the “I’m not supporting my favorite sports team unless they do what I want in a system they had no control over” bullshit. Makes me wonder if you were ever really a fan to begin with.

I will support and love Bison Football until the day I die as I’d do it if they were NAIA.


Fandom may not be questioned in his logic but maturity of thought and reasoning absolutely can be

Besides that if they are waiting for a check from him might as move on

heffray
07-03-2023, 04:04 PM
Fandom may not be questioned in his logic but maturity of thought and reasoning absolutely can be

Besides that if they are waiting for a check from him might as move on

I think both are brought into question. But hey, that’s just me. I hope as many people remain Bison fans as possible, but if you don’t like the way College Football is going and it’s a tombstone for your interest and support, then good luck to ya, was glad to have ya.

HerdBot
07-04-2023, 02:49 AM
I don’t think that’s how this works at all… you show your support at this level and it gives the decision makers (both NDSU AND other FBS conferences) a reason to believe we will succeed at the next level. Then you go next level and you increase your support.

I don’t understand the “I’m not supporting my favorite sports team unless they do what I want in a system they had no control over” bullshit. Makes me wonder if you were ever really a fan to begin with.

I will support and love Bison Football until the day I die as I’d do it if they were NAIA.

Yep. Prove your fan base cares and can up the game and raise money. This happens before an invite, not after.

We know excitement will go up a notch or ten when we get an invite, but the financials are key

Support Teammakers
Buy season tickets
Donate to the football endowment fund
Donate to NIL

Heck donate to the softball indoor hitting facilty. Perception is everything

bisonaudit
07-04-2023, 02:55 AM
Yep. Prove your fan base cares and can up the game. This happems before an invite, not after.

The fan base is doing more than it’s share already but the institutional support isn’t coming regardless so we’re on our own to fund a move.

56BISON73
07-04-2023, 02:56 AM
not bad. but I'm with SD BISON

you go FBS. we will be fundraising like no other.

Youve been saying you were going to donate for years if this happened and if that happens. Every time the bench mark is reached you move the goals posts.
You proved yourself a liar so please just stop.

CaBisonFan
07-05-2023, 03:13 AM
The NIL and transfer portal will be the demise of college athletics. They've already done great harm. How does a coach discipline players... or bench them... without fearing a knock on the door from that player? Seriously... I couldn't... and wouldn't... deal with it if I was a coach. The number of players in the transfer portals is ridiculous. And there's no way to effectively... and fairly... deal with the NIL. I'm all for players getting some money to live on during college... no problem. But this is way, way, way out of control. And as for transfers... the old transfer rules were effective. The ncaa screwed up big-time.

IndyBison
07-05-2023, 04:17 AM
The NIL and transfer portal will be the demise of college athletics. They've already done great harm. How does a coach discipline players... or bench them... without fearing a knock on the door from that player? Seriously... I couldn't... and wouldn't... deal with it if I was a coach. The number of players in the transfer portals is ridiculous. And there's no way to effectively... and fairly... deal with the NIL. I'm all for players getting some money to live on during college... no problem. But this is way, way, way out of control. And as for transfers... the old transfer rules were effective. The ncaa screwed up big-time.I agree, but I'm far from definitely predicting the demise. I do think it could happen though. Unfortunately there was nothing the NCAA could do to stop it once a couple states started passing legislation. It sounds like they may try to put some restrictions on it. This is not at all what the NCAA wanted to happen and we are seeing the reasons why.

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56BISON73
07-05-2023, 04:31 AM
I agree, but I'm far from definitely predicting the demise. I do think it could happen though. Unfortunately there was nothing the NCAA could do to stop it once a couple states started passing legislation. It sounds like they may try to put some restrictions on it. This is not at all what the NCAA wanted to happen and we are seeing the reasons why.

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The NCAA could have settled the lawsuit that they spent millions fighting. Then they could have set up guidelines and revamped the set up and had a structured process where this could have all been hashed out.. But the 2-A slit their own throats and in the process doomed college sports.

https://i.imgur.com/vcGRmK3.jpg

bisonaudit
07-05-2023, 11:19 AM
Funny how not paying people what they’re worth really f#cks things up in the long run.

scottietohottie
07-05-2023, 11:21 AM
Funny how not paying people what they’re worth really fucks things up in the long run.

Bahahahaha

Professor Chaos
07-05-2023, 12:45 PM
RIP Bison football - I'm sure the $17.91 a month each these 115 players are getting out of this so far is going to destroy it.

BISONBRI53
07-05-2023, 01:07 PM
So how does this work when the "skill" players get thousands of dollars from several sources and the lineman maybe get hundreds? Doubt that creates a feeling of team unity. How about all the lack of loyalty with players transferring to get more money? What a joke! About ready to pull my support of so called college athletics unless something is done to end this crap! Hope others will do the same.

AWESOME!!! Does that mean you will stop coming on here and bitching about everything? GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!

IndyBison
07-05-2023, 09:30 PM
The NCAA could have settled the lawsuit that they spent millions fighting. Then they could have set up guidelines and revamped the set up and had a structured process where this could have all been hashed out.. But the 2-A slit their own throats and in the process doomed college sports.

https://i.imgur.com/vcGRmK3.jpgThese were not lawsuits. They were legislation passed in a few states that made it difficult for the NCAA to prevent NIL payments. They rooks have lost any lawsuit they were going to file, and they knew it. Now that they've had time to observe how it's working and look into legal options, they will try to address them. The Ed O'Bannon lawsuit was settled long before this happened.

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semobison
07-08-2023, 01:36 PM
Not a fan of NIL or the Portal. I guess it’s my age…but, adapt or die!

southcliffbison
07-08-2023, 07:30 PM
Funny how not paying people what they’re worth really f#cks things up in the long run.

Exactly who determines what a 18 or 19 year old is worth?

TAILG8R
07-08-2023, 08:05 PM
Exactly who determines what a 18 or 19 year old is worth?

The market. Gotta love capitalism.


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scottietohottie
07-08-2023, 08:37 PM
Exactly who determines what a 18 or 19 year old is worth?

Only fans eh.

GreenfieldBison
07-08-2023, 11:07 PM
Only fans eh.

You can get that up there in South Canada?

Anyway, I thought it was The Invisible Hand but the #meToo crowd assert's that it ain't all that invisible. Different hand probably...

El_Chapo
07-31-2023, 04:24 PM
I just texted and congratulated Mr Burgandy... I suggest all of you do this as well.

I was asked by some fans/businesses and I know some of you were asked to start 1 as well

... but lets face facts.....
Mr Burgandy will do a great job with this and we will all support this NIL
no matter our differences or past pettiness BisoNation will all come together as a family to make NDSU Succeed!

Lets go Bison NIL!

3pm presser at Herd N Horns if you're in Fargo get over there.

HerdBot
07-31-2023, 06:16 PM
NDSU alum Jay Bartley starting NIL collective to benefit Bison student-athletes

https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/ndsu-alum-starting-nil-collecti

TAILG8R
07-31-2023, 08:03 PM
I love that we now have an NIL collective. First order of business ... get a pro to create a real logo. ::hide:

BISONBRI53
07-31-2023, 08:41 PM
i love that we now have an nil collective. First order of business ... Get a pro to create a real logo. ::hide:

scream yellow!!!!!

KSBisonFan
07-31-2023, 10:52 PM
I just texted and congratulated Mr Burgandy... I suggest all of you do this as well.

I was asked by some fans/businesses and I know some of you were asked to start 1 as well

... but lets face facts.....
Mr Burgandy will do a great job with this and we will all support this NIL
no matter our differences or past pettiness BisoNation will all come together as a family to make NDSU Succeed!

Lets go Bison NIL!

3pm presser at Herd N Horns if you're in Fargo get over there.

If the press conference is available, can someone please post it? Thanks.

bruinbison
08-26-2023, 12:37 AM
NDSU NIL Store

https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone

Professor Chaos
08-26-2023, 12:51 AM
NDSU NIL Store

https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone
Here's the link to the store itself if anyone wants to do some shopping: https://ndsu.nil.store/

It ain't cheap.

NDSU92
08-26-2023, 04:03 AM
Here's the link to the store itself if anyone wants to do some shopping: https://ndsu.nil.store/

It ain't cheap.

Already grabbed Tamerick’s tshirt. Pretty cool idea hope it takes off