SLT FINALS: vs ORU

[HoopsBison]

Not much needs to be said on this one.... Its ORU....Its the championship game...8pm on ESPN2.

Lets go dancing!
Go Bison!

[Professor Chaos]

I've got a very odd feeling about this game - moreso than any other SLT title game I've got little expectation of them winning. That could be a good thing since the pressure is all on ORU and there's absolutely none on NDSU. Even if NDSU loses ORU is much better positioned to win a game in the round of 64 in the tournament so I'll be looking at the result tonight as a win/win scenario.

Ending SDSU's season in emphatic fashion will be a sweet highlight to this season no matter what happens tonight. :)

Go Bison! Play like there's nothing to lose because there literally isn't.

[heffray]

I've got a very odd feeling about this game - moreso than any other SLT title game I've got little expectation of them winning. That could be a good thing since the pressure is all on ORU and there's absolutely none on NDSU. Even if NDSU loses ORU is much better positioned to win a game in the round of 64 in the tournament so I'll be looking at the result tonight as a win/win scenario.

Ending SDSU's season in emphatic fashion will be a sweet highlight to this season no matter what happens tonight. :)

Go Bison! Play like there's nothing to lose because there literally isn't.

Yep. I have literally nothing to add except one specific thing:

Fuckem.

[Kevin]

Oral Roberts is a stupid name bro.

[heffray]

Oral Roberts is a stupid name bro.

He was a stupid person, but I digress.

[KSBisonFan]

Over/Under on how many minutes we miss due to the game before ours going long?
Looks like it's Fairleigh Dickinson vs Merrimack.

[southcliffbison]

Attacking the basket and getting to the FT line early and often big key to this game; oh, and making FTs is kinda important, too. How did Andrew Morgan learn to be successful at the line in the past 24hrs?

[heffray]

Attacking the basket and getting to the FT line early and often big key to this game; oh, and making FTs is kinda important, too. How did Andrew Morgan learn to be successful at the line in the past 24hrs?

Extra oil in the mullet.

[Mr. Burgundy]

I think Morgan is a guy who needs to feel important. Get him off to a great start. Getting their bigs into foul trouble is key. Morgan is good when he has his swagger. He can vanish. We need him! That is key to me. He can dominate. Unique body type. Be the aggressive kid.

[El_Chapo]

I think Morgan is a guy who needs to feel important. Get him off to a great start. Getting their bigs into foul trouble is key. Morgan is good when he has his swagger. He can vanish. We need him! That is key to me. He can dominate. Unique body type. Be the aggressive kid.

show him some Marshall Bjorkland tape all day today!

ORU will get tight sphincters tonight

[GCWaters]

Oral Roberts is a stupid name bro.

Tell that to his brother, Anal....

[Kevin]

He was a stupid person, but I digress.

Ever see Moral Orel on adult swim?

If not, go check youtube for it.

[Professor Chaos]

So to turn the subject to our favorite little opposing head coach to hate on - how telling is it that Paul Mills took a team like Oral Roberts to the Sweet 16 2 years ago and still hasn't parlayed that into a better job? They're sitting one spot outside the AP Top 25 right now. If he's still at ORU next year you can be pretty sure it's not just our NDSU bias that's showing through when it comes to his personality issues.

[Strommer10]

So to turn the subject to our favorite little opposing head coach to hate on - how telling is it that Paul Mills took a team like Oral Roberts to the Sweet 16 2 years ago and still hasn't parlayed that into a better job? They're sitting one spot outside the AP Top 25 right now. If he's still at ORU next year you can be pretty sure it's not just our NDSU bias that's showing through when it comes to his personality issues.

I would be surprised if Mills is back at ORU next season. I think he has been building ORU for Abmas' final season and will spring-board that up the coaching ladder in the offseason.

Personally, I hope that he stays. He has made ORU very strong. An NDSU/SDSU/ORU top of the Summit League is much better than the league was when NDSU first joined. Also I like having opposing coaches that you love to hate (Kampe @ Oakland, & Sutton @ ORU come to mind).

[HerdBot]

To say this would be an epic upset is an understatement. We need the Nelson to play his best and a great supporting cast

[heffray]

Ever see Moral Orel on adult swim?

If not, go check youtube for it.

That’s a hard maybe. I’ll see if I have time…

[Strommer10]

To say this would be an epic upset is an understatement. We need the Nelson to play his best and a great supporting cast

Keys tonight:
DWT needs to lock up Abmas like he did to Mayo last night. That was almost a "Kory Brown" level of effort last night from him on the defensive end. If NDSU lets Abmas run wild, its over and doesn't matter what else happens.

On offense: Grant will get his 20+ & Boden will get his 15. NDSU needs that 3rd scoring threat. At least one of DWT, Morgan or Miller needs another breakout game tonight. Dave's shortened the rotation to essentially 6 guys (plus Streit for fouls on Vanover tonight).

[Professor Chaos]

I would be surprised if Mills is back at ORU next season. I think he has been building ORU for Abmas' final season and will spring-board that up the coaching ladder in the offseason.

Personally, I hope that he stays. He has made ORU very strong. An NDSU/SDSU/ORU top of the Summit League is much better than the league was when NDSU first joined. Also I like having opposing coaches that you love to hate (Kampe @ Oakland, & Sutton @ ORU come to mind).
Crazy thing is I think Abmas could use his COVID year and come back again next year if he really wanted to.

[Herd]

I’ve wondered the last 2 years, what’s the Abmas/Obanor relationship is like today, and the ORU fan take on both players? Just think if KO was still playing for ORU, they’d be that much stronger. High major good.

I guess we’d be pretty strong with Griesel, Eady and Hays too.

[Old Titan]

Crazy thing is I think Abmas could use his COVID year and come back again next year if he really wanted to.

True, but Max has made it clear his fourth season with ORU will be his last. What remains to be seen is whether he goes pro, or plays a fifth year for a P5 program.

Regardless, he will remain one of the more beloved ORU players in history; he could have bolted either of the past two season and no one would have blamed him, but he chose to stay. ORU and the Summit League all benefitted.

[NDSUBowler]

Which Grant Nelson shows up tonight?

In the home game vs ORU this year, first half he went 19pt 4reb 1blk 1stl and NDSU was down 5 at half. Second half he had 2pt 2reb 1ast 2to and NDSU got blown out.

[OrygunBison]

Oral Roberts is a stupid name bro.

...but Oral Roberta is the bomb.

[heffray]

...but Oral Roberta is the bomb.

I see what you did there.

[El_Chapo]

Max & Mcbride driving to the basket is what I will see if NDSU can stop . that'll be key.

[KSBisonFan]

One of my favorite days of the year. I have a good feeling about this game. I made the comment in the last ORU GDT that they were beatable and gave me hope for the Summit Tourney and here we are.

ORU has all the pressure on them. We have none. Play loose, limit turnovers, get in their face on defense and play to win. We can do this. We'll need 4 guys in double figures and one of them has to be Morgan. He has to be the confident, physical, smart version of himself and make FTs like he did last night.

[EC8CH]

Punch bob in the mouth... Then go dancing... Paul Mills is a little bitch.

[Bison03]

Death, taxes, and NDSU playing to get to the big dance! All the pressure is on them. Need to come out swinging like last night. Pound the ball down low and get their big in foul trouble. Limit Abmas as much as you can. Lets Go Bison!! And as Saul Phillips famously said in 2009; Lets go cut down some nets boys!!

[Bison03]

Alright, dont need overtime, or a fight like last year to delay watching our game.

[Bison4peat]

How do we reboot the computer for them?

[WestCoastBison]

Let’s go! 68-62 Bison

[ByeSonBusiness]

Offense looks horrid so far

[WestCoastBison]

Call a timeout

[Bison4peat]

This could get ugly

[El_Chapo]

just left Underwood v Henning Girls Section Finals.. what the HELL did I miss?

ORU just unconscious shooting?

we will start hooping now I'm here

[Schwarz04]

Don’t call a timeout until it’s too late.

[Bison03]

Cant hit anything!!

[ByeSonBusiness]

Things could change but this seems to be what ORU has done to teams all year?

[El_Chapo]

Call a timeout

1st game for you ?? that'd be the #Hallmark

[HerdBot]

This ones over 4 minutes in unless we can figure something out. We look slow. They dont

[unbison]

Don’t call a timeout until it’s too late.

Shit is it over already

[HerdThat!]

Fuckin go at them down low and make them foul, giving up weak passes near the rim

[unbison]

just left Underwood v Henning Girls Section Finals.. what the HELL did I miss?

ORU just unconscious shooting?

we will start hooping now I'm here
Hoople vs who?

[blackdiamond2]

Don't panic. Start playing harder the shots will even out. We need to get the bodies moving and rebound better.

[El_Chapo]

some life here?

[El_Chapo]

dam is Mcbride better than Max?

[El_Chapo]

timeout?????

[Portlandbison]

Bison won last night because they hit 40% from 3s. Tonight, lets try to attack 7'5" down low

[KSBisonFan]

Vanover is in our heads big time.

[HerdThat!]

Not hard for ORU to defend us cuz it’s basically 4 on 5 if Streit doesn’t even have a glance towards the basket like he thinks of making the defense think he’s going try to score

[El_Chapo]

can we get 1 backdoor alley oop to Grant?? just 1. do we even have a play call for that?

[semobison]

ORU raining three’s, need some stops!

[Ms Snorty]

Uff da! Now's the time to get something going while he's on the bench

[HerdBot]

I'm not a great basketball mind but isn't it stupid to attack the rim vs a 7-5 guy? St Thomas drained threes and it was a 5 point game. Our guys look scared to get their shots blocked

[chuckles]

I mean, Dave made it to the 'ship, thats what Larson's benchmark is and why he got extended, what more is there to do? oh, maybe win or show up?

[blackdiamond2]

we are getting destroyed on the boards (16 to 6).

[OrygunBison]

Bison are playing like a bunch of 7th graders. Super sloppy all around.

[Schwarz04]

Absolute asinine ply calling with ORUs big man out.

[KSBisonFan]

I'm not a great basketball mind but isn't it stupid to attack the rim vs a 7-5 guy? St Thomas drained threes and it was a 5 point game

St Thomas was making their 3s, we're not.

[CalBison97]

Embarrassing. We look lost on both ends of the court.

[semobison]

SDSU hangover??

[BisManBison]

St Thomas was making their 3s, we're not.

St Thomas figured out how to get open looks. We’re throwing up contested bricks.

[Bison03]

ORU is the best team in the league, definitely showing it right now. Abmas only has 3 points! They cant miss from 3

[Professor Chaos]

Look on the bright side: the way this game is playing out has to enrage the bunnies and their fans even more.

[ByeSonBusiness]

NDSU looks like a middle school team playing against high school players. Credit to ORU. Good luck in the dance

[HerdBot]

ORU is the best team in the league, definitely showing it right now. Abmas only has 3 points! They cant miss from 3

To my untrained eye, it looks like 3 point warmups with no one even trying to play defense.

[blackdiamond2]

Hopefully ORU will ease up here a little as they are up by 25.

[El_Chapo]

LOVE DOING THIS ON ESPN 2

last 2 NDSU appearances on NATL TV = ouch.

I'm eating lots of crow 2nite via text/messages for the Winning and bragging last 10 years

[HerdBot]

ORU is the best team in the league, definitely showing it right now. Abmas only has 3 points! They cant miss from 3

And Grant Nelson is a non factor. I think the NBA scouts are there to see the 7-5 guy

[OrygunBison]

LOVE DOING THIS ON ESPN 2

last 2 NDSU appearances on NATL TV = ouch.

I'm eating lots of crow 2nite via text/messages for the Winning and bragging last 10 years

It's all about you again, huh?

[heffray]

And Grant Nelson is a non factor. I think the NBA scouts are there to see the 7-5 guy

Him or Abmas.

[El_Chapo]

It's all about you again, huh?

huh? not about me. you aren't getting messages or seeing them on twitter/Facebook? we have been on top for 10+ years. people are taking their shots but NDSU will survive

[HerdBot]

St Thomas figured out how to get open looks. We’re throwing up contested bricks.

And having Morgan try to post up a 7-5 guy. Just stupid. Its like running into a brick wall and wondering why its not working. What is he 1-4 with 3 blocked shots?

Dave doesnt understand matchups

[heffray]

Are 30-point leads common in first halves of basketball games? Asking for a friend…

[El_Chapo]

Put grant nelson in. Wtf

is he trying not to let scouts see him so he stays?? what's going on. we are DOWN 30

[HerdThat!]

Jacari can spend the off-season working on basic passing techniques. Like with intention and effort.

[HerdBot]

Are 30-point leads common in first halves of basketball games? Asking for a friend…

But Dave in March

[HerdBot]

Put grant nelson in. Wtf

is he trying not to let scouts see him so he stays?? what's going on. we are DOWN 30

No, our NBA guy isnt needed.

[OrygunBison]

Didn't we beat UND like this in this game a few short years ago?

[TAILG8R]

But Dave in March

Apparently it’s all about 2 games in March not 3.


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[Big Bird]

My god, this is embarrassing

[OrygunBison]

Well, at least the rest of my night is free since I don't have to watch the second half.

[HerdBot]

If I was at this game, I would boo the shit out of them at half and throw popcorn at Dave

[KSBisonFan]

Defensive effort has been nonexistent and that's really disappointing.

[Wolfie]

If I was at this game, I would boo the shit out of them at half and throw popcorn at Dave

Matt Larsen is writing up his new midnight contract as we speak

[Bison03]

You know we are pissed but can we not recognize that ORU is really fucking good?! Lol.

[HerdThat!]

Apparently it’s all about 2 games in March not 3.


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Maybe if he gave a fuck before March we’d get a top seed to not play 3 straight nights

[Kevin]

Wtf bros? See you next March.

[HerdThat!]

If I was at this game, I would boo the shit out of them at half and throw popcorn at Dave

Why waste good popcorn?!? Just use the unpopped kernels

[Wolfie]

You know we are pissed but can we not recognize that ORU is really fucking good?! Lol.

ORU could make another sweet 16 run if they can continue to shoot well.

[heffray]

But Dave in March

I’m told my ceiling isn’t the right level. Apparently my ceiling should be a floor in Sioux Falls.

[garbageman]

If I was at this game, I would boo the shit out of them at half and throw popcorn at Dave

Then they would think your a jackrabbit fan cause that’s how they act

[ByeSonBusiness]

Imagine this ORU team if that one dude hadn't transferred lol holy fuck.

[KSBisonFan]

Imagine this ORU team if that one dude hadn't transferred lol holy fuck.

Obanor, who's at Texas Tech.

[NDSUstudent]

Disappointing, ORU is great but no excuse for this.

[Portlandbison]

You know we are pissed but can we not recognize that ORU is really fucking good?! Lol.

Pomeroy ratings have them at #67, 10 spots behind a 13-18 Ohio State team. They do look great when playing teams like #204 NDSU though.

[ByeSonBusiness]

Pomeroy ratings have them at #67, 10 spots behind a 13-18 Ohio State team. They do look great when playing teams like #204 NDSU though.

Considering every player on both these teams tonight would have probably gladly accepted an Ohio State offer and they are considered that close to them is pretty impressive.

[HerdThat!]

Morgan gets it, go at him!!

[El_Chapo]

oh wow ORU ran a set play alley oops to Vanover

I wish we could do that 1 time to Nelson. just 1

[ByeSonBusiness]

Morgan gets it, go at him!!

I like the aggression but he's gotten blocked like 4 times

[HerdThat!]

I like the aggression but he's gotten blocked like 4 times

Draw the fouls to get him out of the game, whether he gets blocked, makes it, misses it - try and get fouls to do what’s going so we can at least start penetrating and not taking lean back soft rainbows everytime we get in the lane

[bisonranch]

Draw the fouls to get him out of the game, whether he gets blocked, makes it, misses it - try and get fouls to do what’s going so we can at least start penetrating and not taking lean back soft rainbows everytime we get in the lane

I dont understand why Nelson and Morgan aren't doing exactly this rather than taking bad shots that miss anyway.

[ByeSonBusiness]

I dont understand why Nelson and Morgan aren't doing exactly this rather than taking bad shots that miss anyway.

I mean we were down 30 at half, I'm not gonna judge the 2nd half gameplan. Basically just putting it in God's hands at that point

[gavin2126]

SDSU hangover??

At least NDSU won their Super Bowl last night :hide:

[heffray]

At least NDSU won their Super Bowl last night :hide:

Oh fuck. You win.

[HerdBot]

I like the aggression but he's gotten blocked like 4 times


Draw the fouls to get him out of the game, whether he gets blocked, makes it, misses it - try and get fouls to do what’s going so we can at least start penetrating and not taking lean back soft rainbows everytime we get in the lane

https://media.tenor.com/hqze9KtFA0sAAAAC/blocked-kid.gif

[Bison03]

Well that last bucket by the Bison was huge! They only lost by 34. Preserving the record for largest margin of victory in a Summit championship game at 36. Set by NDSU vs UND. Lol

[Professor Chaos]

You can say anyone in Summit League would've lost to ORU the way they played tonight but I'd say the Bison would've lost to anyone in the Summit League the way they played tonight. As good as ORU is they made them look way better with lazy defense/box outs and no offensive aggressiveness.

Still the end of the season is something they can build on going into next year if they can retain the contributors. Hopefully that wasn't Grant Nelson's last game as a Bison because it was a forgettable one.

[heffray]

Well that last bucket by the Bison was huge! They only by 34. Preserving the record for largest margin of victory in a Summit championship game at 36. Set by NDSU vs UND. Lol

The ceiling is high!

[Portlandbison]

Considering every player on both these teams tonight would have probably gladly accepted an Ohio State offer and they are considered that close to them is pretty impressive.

You think?

Point is before we crown ORU as a great team, a little perspective on how bad the Summit was this year and the teams that ORU beat are. ORU is ranked 10 spots behind the 13th team in the Big 10 that is having their worst season in 25 years.

[Kujava23]

Great season Grant Nelson, all the best in your future!

Young guards were EXPOSED tonight again...cmon people
Cant guard ball screen--fight over....and poor shot selection...play through Grant to help open up easier opportunities...not sure whyyy insisted to dump to Morgan in mid post up since he cant drive or great passer out of double teams....2-13 3's isnt gonna win any big game!

Bison could be really small next yr

[HerdBot]

I like the aggression but he's gotten blocked like 4 times


You can say anyone in Summit League would've lost to ORU the way they played tonight but I'd say the Bison would've lost to anyone in the Summit League the way they played tonight. As good as ORU is they made them look way better with lazy defense/box outs and no offensive aggressiveness.

Still the end of the season is something they can build on going into next year if they can retain the contributors. Hopefully that wasn't Grant Nelson's last game as a Bison because it was a forgettable one.

ORU beat NDSU by 30, SDSU by 40 and USD by 50. Oddly UND and St Thomas played them close

Our style is just a bad matchup. You beat them by shooting 3's and midrange jumpers. Their center is next level and he was in their heads. We dont have anyone to match up against him. I hate that style of basketball that involves launching thees but duh. Only way to beat ORU

Next year will be our year

[El_Chapo]

Well that last bucket by the Bison was huge! They only lost by 34. Preserving the record for largest margin of victory in a Summit championship game at 36. Set by NDSU vs UND. Lol

Silver Linings. yes!!!

[SDbison]

I don't care how good ORU is that beat down was plain embarrassing. Our players didn't show up and Dave Richman still sucks. Told the fans at the pep rally before the Bison were playing to win. LMFAO

[HerdBot]

ORU beat NDSU by 30, SDSU by 40 and USD by 50. Oddly UND and St Thomas played them close

Our style is just a bad matchup. You beat them by shooting 3's and midrange jumpers. Their center is next level and he was in their heads. We dont have anyone to match up against him. I hate that style of basketball that involves launching thees but duh. Only way to beat ORU

Next year will be our year

The only other way to match up is to have a big that can play above the rim and get their crotch in a 7-5 centers face. The guy is 7-5 but he's a bean pole. Need muscle inside like Dex and some flying elbows. That guy can be pushed around but you cant shoot over him

[CaBisonFan]

ORU looks like an elite NCAA tournament team. They could play with anybody. I wonder how they got those players.

[scottietohottie]

Did they win eh?

[BigLakeBison]

You can say anyone in Summit League would've lost to ORU the way they played tonight but I'd say the Bison would've lost to anyone in the Summit League the way they played tonight. As good as ORU is they made them look way better with lazy defense/box outs and no offensive aggressiveness.

Still the end of the season is something they can build on going into next year if they can retain the contributors. Hopefully that wasn't Grant Nelson's last game as a Bison because it was a forgettable one.

You nailed it. ORU is a really good mid-major basketball team and they are going to be a tough out for anyone in the tournament. They have size inside, good guards and a superstar in Abmas. That being said, they aren't as good as we made them look last night and they aren't as good as the Summit League made them look this entire season.

That type of team should be the goal for NDSU. I know it's not attainable to have that type of team every year in the Summit but with legitimate funding, good coaching/player development and some luck it isn't some impossible, unattainable dream. Making excuses about why we can't get there more consistently isn't going to do anything. A 27-30 win team every so often with 22-25 win teams consistently should be the standard for NDSU in the Summit. A really solid mid-major basketball team should win 13-15 games in Summit Conference play. Get another 7-10 wins OOC and your in that 20-25 win range every year. The competition in this league, or lack thereof, should be more incentive to push to be the absolute dominant force. Look what we have accomplished so far and in my opinion the administration hasn't done much to get behind the program. If they showed some more support, I don't think it is too far fetched to think that we couldn't absolutely become the clear #1 program in the conference and position ourselves for opportunities to build a national reputation outside of the Summit.

[heffray]

You nailed it. ORU is a really good mid-major basketball team and they are going to be a tough out for anyone in the tournament. They have size inside, good guards and a superstar in Abmas. That being said, they aren't as good as we made them look last night and they aren't as good as the Summit League made them look this entire season.

That type of team should be the goal for NDSU. I know it's not attainable to have that type of team every year in the Summit but with legitimate funding, good coaching/player development and some luck it isn't some impossible, unattainable dream. Making excuses about why we can't get there more consistently isn't going to do anything. A 27-30 win team every so often with 22-25 win teams consistently should be the standard for NDSU in the Summit. A really solid mid-major basketball team should win 13-15 games in Summit Conference play. Get another 7-10 wins OOC and your in that 20-25 win range every year. The competition in this league, or lack thereof, should be more incentive to push to be the absolute dominant force. Look what we have accomplished so far and in my opinion the administration hasn't done much to get behind the program. If they showed some more support, I don't think it is too far fetched to think that we couldn't absolutely become the clear #1 program in the conference and position ourselves for opportunities to build a national reputation outside of the Summit.

Nonsense. I have been ASSURED that our ceiling is exactly where we are at and yesterday is perfectly acceptable.

[El_Chapo]

seems a little quiet in here this morning. . . the knee padders don't want to discuss it.

[DORMIE]

Aside from running into a buzz saw, 13 3's, having to play 3 day's
in a row had to be tough on this young team against a team that
had played one game with a day's rest. Probably never played
back to back games all year.

[heffray]

seems a little quiet in here this morning. . . the knee padders don't want to discuss it.

The Chapo Challengers will be tested with this one…

[THEsocalledfan]

While I was disappointed last night, that ORU team will win at least 1 NCAA game. My goodness, they are good.

[totoinfl]

The Chapo Challengers will be tested with this one…

LOLZ....you nailed it. If this was the football forum i would be more likely...in this case...meh.

[El_Chapo]

LOLZ....you nailed it. If this was the football forum i would be more likely...in this case...meh.

back to apathy . that 14-17 D1 record didn't really generate much buzz.

[heffray]

LOLZ....you nailed it. If this was the football forum i would be more likely...in this case...meh.

Look at you rising to the challenge tho

[bruinbison]

The Chapo Challengers will be tested with this one…

He does seem quite happy with himself.
What a perfect day for him to gloat on Bisonville!!! :nod:
Bison had a bad game coaching.
Bison had a bad game playing.
Bison had a bad game on the scoreboard, he doesn’t have to contend with NDSU making the NCAA’s again……

[scottietohottie]

Did they win eh?

[heffray]

He does seem quite happy with himself.
What a perfect day for him to gloat on Bisonville!!! :nod:
Bison had a bad game coaching.
Bison had a bad game playing.
Bison had a bad game on the scoreboard, he doesn’t have to contend with NDSU making the NCAA’s again……

If the Bison MBB team had half the grit and fortitude of our Chapo Challengers, they would have only lost by 15… proud of my challengers today. Just hoping this momentum carries us into football season…

[El_Chapo]

If the Bison MBB team had half the grit and fortitude of our Chapo Challengers, they would have only lost by 15… proud of my challengers today. Just hoping this momentum Carrie’s us into football season…

sticking head in the sand does work for a lot of people in their lives to allow them to carry on.

[heffray]

sticking head in the sand does work for a lot of people in their lives to allow them to carry on.

This is why they call it a challenge, guys. I never said it was going to be easy.

[totoinfl]

This is why they call it a challenge, guys. I never said it was going to be easy.

He isn't making it easy Heff....