Some perspective after things have calmed down.

[HerdBot]

It's time for a youth movement.

The transfer portal hit the secondary in a big way. Am I worried? Not at all because we've been able to easily replace starters in the past with either freshman or transfers and we didn't miss a beat. Don't believe me?

What do Eubanks, Grimsley, Urzendowski, Ryan Smith, Josh Hayes, Colton Heagle, Bruce Anderson and Chase Morlock have in common? They all played an impact role as a TRUE freshman. Those are just a few

We lose a stud like Jalen Allison to injury before the JMU game? A redshirt freshman Marquise Bridges steps in after converting from WR and he's immediately an impact player. Need some depth at corner? Andre Martin is a 1 year grad transfer and makes an immediate impact. Bryan Shepherd, a D2 player at Nebraska Omaha plays 14 games in year 1 and becomes an impact player. 2010 we needed a corner? How about redshirt freshman Marcus Williams?

In 2010, we needed a linebacker and safety. Chad Willson and John Pike transfer in and are impact players on our first National Championship team. Speaking of 2011, mid season a redshirt freshman from nowhere ND named Travis Beck is inserted into the lineup and redshirt freshman Carlton Littlejohn starts to emerge.

We need a running back almost every year. Kobe plays as a true freshman. 2016, True Freshman Bruce Anderson gets hurt. Guess who steps in? Redshirt Freshman Ty Brooks. How about redshirt Freshman Lance Dunn? In 2017, we lose so many running backs to injury, a freshman named Seth Wilson steps in and we don't miss a beat. How about Chase Morlock playing in 15 games as a true freshman? We needed a fullback badly, how about redshirt freshman Andrew Bonnet?

We needed depth on the D-line in 2010. A guy named Cole Jirik, who was a skinny freshman in 2009 ads a ton of weight and steps in and is a 4 year starter. We needed improvement at the nose, how about redshirt freshman Ryan Drevlow?

2011 we need to replace Colter Boyer. A redshirt Freshman named Kyle Emanuel steps in and is a 4 year starter and future NFL player. Brayden Thomas becomes an impact player late in year 1. D Tackle is thin. Coster Ching moves from TE to DT and he's an immediate impact guy

2010 early season, our O-line is really struggling. We insert a freshman named Billy Turner at LT and move Paul Cornick to RG. Suddenly we are much better. A few years later, we have another hole to fill, so we plug in a walk on redshirt freshman at RT named Joe Haeg.

The common theme is either true freshman or redshirt freshman. Point is we can replace all these guys and we have time to do it. We may be able to actually upgrade. Will it be a redshirt freshman, talented true freshman or the transfer portal? Maybe a guy who has been waiting for his opportunity.

Not sure but I expect to be surprised. It's not always the 3 star stud with a dozen offers. It's sometimes the small town kid like Jackson Hankey, Travis Beck or Ryan Drevlow.

So look out for young guys like Toby Anene, McCaslin, Gannon Williams, Darius Givance, Jaquise Alexander, Huber, Magin, Logan Larson, Altepeter, Kaden Zenzen, Mekhi Collins, or Hegerle, Maybe it will be a true freshman like Jailen Duffie, Pickett, CharMar, Najee Nelson, Crumby, Noah Taylor or Azure? Maybe it's the kid with 0 offers. Maybe Enock Sibomana, Bryce Lance or Kpeenu are now ready to be the guy. Maybe the coaching staff, who now had extra scholarships go find some big time under the radar recuits in the next few weeks or the perfect transfer

So to the players who transfered out, good luck and thanks for your time here. The young guys may be hungrier to play and less worried about an NFL future 4 years from now.

[Professor Chaos]

It's time for some leadership. Whether it's by coaches or, more preferably, by the players. Attitude reflects leadership.

[HerdBot]

It's time for some leadership. Whether it's by coaches or, more preferably, by the players. Attitude reflects leadership.

Many of our veterans seemed more concerned with their NFL aspirations than winning a National Championship. No hunger. A player who is trying to not get hurt whiffs on an easy tackle in the biggest game. Not a hungry player. Some players were better as a freshman.

Now I'm starting to get why the coaches love a guy like Jake Kava. Not the biggest guy but he is a great leader and he actually cares and gives full effort. Its shocking a 6-1 converted linebacker from Fargo is a solid D1, DE. He knows he's probably not an NFL prospect but he still brings something big to the table. We really need guys like him to lead and push the younger DEs who are probably more talented than he is. He is the type of player I want to see as a captain as a senior.

[heffray]

Good thoughts, HerdBot.

That Bridges 2017 game was one for the ages. And unheralded. No one knew who he was before that game.

[reformedUNDfan]

14-1, lose in Brookings and win in Frisco

[DCinOK]

I'm still very much pissed about 2 Sundays ago. Curbstomped by the southern team in Frisco?! For years Bison fans have said, "No big deal when we lose to sdsu in reg. season...because "It's their SUPER BOWL, dontcha know!" Now they actually beat us IN the actual Super Bowl, and now look at us...

[thebigund]

It's time for a youth movement.

The transfer portal hit the secondary in a big way. Am I worried? Not at all because we've been able to easily replace starters in the past with either freshman or transfers and we didn't miss a beat. Don't believe me?

What do Eubanks, Grimsley, Urzendowski, Ryan Smith, Josh Hayes, Colton Heagle, Bruce Anderson and Chase Morlock have in common? They all played an impact role as a TRUE freshman. Those are just a few

We lose a stud like Jalen Allison to injury before the JMU game? A redshirt freshman Marquise Bridges steps in after converting from WR and he's immediately an impact player. Need some depth at corner? Andre Martin is a 1 year grad transfer and makes an immediate impact. Bryan Shepherd, a D2 player at Nebraska Omaha plays 14 games in year 1 and becomes an impact player. 2010 we needed a corner? How about redshirt freshman Marcus Williams?

In 2010, we needed a linebacker and safety. Chad Willson and John Pike transfer in and are impact players on our first National Championship team. Speaking of 2011, mid season a redshirt freshman from nowhere ND named Travis Beck is inserted into the lineup and redshirt freshman Carlton Littlejohn starts to emerge.

We need a running back almost every year. Kobe plays as a true freshman. 2016, True Freshman Bruce Anderson gets hurt. Guess who steps in? Redshirt Freshman Ty Brooks. How about redshirt Freshman Lance Dunn? In 2017, we lose so many running backs to injury, a freshman named Seth Wilson steps in and we don't miss a beat. How about Chase Morlock playing in 15 games as a true freshman? We needed a fullback badly, how about redshirt freshman Andrew Bonnet?

We needed depth on the D-line in 2010. A guy named Cole Jirik, who was a skinny freshman in 2009 ads a ton of weight and steps in and is a 4 year starter. We needed improvement at the nose, how about redshirt freshman Ryan Drevlow?

2011 we need to replace Colter Boyer. A redshirt Freshman named Kyle Emanuel steps in and is a 4 year starter and future NFL player. Brayden Thomas becomes an impact player late in year 1. D Tackle is thin. Coster Ching moves from TE to DT and he's an immediate impact guy

2010 early season, our O-line is really struggling. We insert a freshman named Billy Turner at LT and move Paul Cornick to RG. Suddenly we are much better. A few years later, we have another hole to fill, so we plug in a walk on redshirt freshman at RT named Joe Haeg.

The common theme is either true freshman or redshirt freshman. Point is we can replace all these guys and we have time to do it. We may be able to actually upgrade. Will it be a redshirt freshman, talented true freshman or the transfer portal? Maybe a guy who has been waiting for his opportunity.

Not sure but I expect to be surprised. It's not always the 3 star stud with a dozen offers. It's sometimes the small town kid like Jackson Hankey, Travis Beck or Ryan Drevlow.

So look out for young guys like Toby Anene, McCaslin, Gannon Williams, Darius Givance, Jaquise Alexander, Huber, Magin, Logan Larson, Altepeter, Kaden Zenzen, Mekhi Collins, or Hegerle, Maybe it will be a true freshman like Jailen Duffie, Pickett, CharMar, Najee Nelson, Crumby, Noah Taylor or Azure? Maybe it's the kid with 0 offers. Maybe Enock Sibomana, Bryce Lance or Kpeenu are now ready to be the guy. Maybe the coaching staff, who now had extra scholarships go find some big time under the radar recuits in the next few weeks or the perfect transfer

So to the players who transfered out, good luck and thanks for your time here. The young guys may be hungrier to play and less worried about an NFL future 4 years from now.

The nice thing about these fr is they get Entz from day 1. He gets to establish his signature champion acumen.

[HerdBot]

The nice thing about these fr is they get Entz from day 1. He gets to establish his signature champion acumen.

They are "his guys" since Klieman doesnt have his prints on them.

Entz actually has a pretty good championship acumen.

He has won the National Championship 50% of the time, made the National Championship game 75% of the time, and made quartfinals 100% of the time. Only major hiccup was the fake covid season. If you remove that year he has won the Natty 2 of 3 years and made it every year He has twice as many National Championships as John Stiegelmeier

He was also the DC under Klieman and recruited many current players

[BigHorns]

They are "his guys" since Klieman doesnt have his prints on them.

Entz actually has a pretty good championship acumen.

He has won the National Championship 50% of the time, made the National Championship game 75% of the time, and made quartfinals 100% of the time. Only major hiccup was the fake covid season. If you remove that year he has won the Natty 2 of 3 years and made it every year He has twice as many National Championships as John Stiegelmeier

He was also the DC under Klieman and recruited many current players

This is a good point. Most schools would kill to have a coach with these results.

After this season though, Entz does have some work to do. We need to improve our offensive schemes one way or another. The days of just manhandling everyone else seem to be over.

[Kevin]

How many of those players did Entz recruit?

[heffray]

How many of those players did Entz recruit?

I’m not even sure which answer to root for…

[mtoutfitter]

How many of those players did Entz recruit?

I would say he wasn't their regional/original recruiter but guessing he was HC at time most signed. Edit....Bussey, Jones, Gonella, Hart, Sigle, Eubanks and maybe more were all brought here under his watch. So if these guys are all going FBS how can they be recruiting the wrong guys....according to Crapo at least?

[BigHorns]

How many of those players did Entz recruit?

You're saying all our worries are Jimmies and Joes, not x's and o's ?

[EagleBison]

Is 2020 Entz first year for recruits?

NORTH DAKOTA STATE 2020 FOOTBALL SIGNING CLASS
Name Pos. Ht. Wt. Yr. Hometown/Previous Schools
Seth Anderson OL/DL 6-5 253 Fr. Moorhead, Minn./Moorhead HS
Oscar Benson LB 6-0 180 Fr. Hillsboro, N.D./Hillsboro HS
Jack Bram TE 6-3 215 Fr. Maryville, Mo./Maryville HS
Courtney Eubanks CB 5-10 175 Fr. St. Petersburg, Fla./Admiral Farragut Academy
Dominic Gonnella RB 5-11 190 Fr. Riverview, Fla./Bloomingdale HS
Tyson Gordon S 6-2 177 Fr. Omaha, Neb./Skutt Catholic HS
DJ Hart WR 6-0 180 Fr. Suwanee, Ga./North Gwinnett HS
Nolan Jacobs DT 6-2 243 Fr. Cedar Rapids, Iowa/Kennedy HS
TK Marshall RB 5-11 189 Fr. Minneapolis, Minn./Southwest HS
Cam Miller QB 6-1 205 Fr. Solon, Iowa/Solon HS
Mason Miller OL 6-6 232 Fr. Ada, Minn./Ada-Borup HS
RaJa Nelson WR 5-8 175 Fr. Lakeville, Minn./Lakeville North HS
Loshiaka Roques DE 6-3 215 Fr. Maple Grove, Minn./Wayzata HS
Ty Satter S 6-1 167 Fr. Fargo, N.D./Fargo Davies HS
Marques Sigle CB 5-10 170 Fr. Omaha, Neb./Omaha North HS
Joe Stoffel TE 6-3 234 Fr. River Falls, Wis./River Falls HS
Cole Wisniewski LB 6-3 189 Fr. Sparta, Wis./Sparta HS
Grey Zabel OL 6-5 247 Fr. Pierre, S.D./T.F. Riggs HS
RECRUITED WALK-ONS (12)
Andre Carrier TE 6-3 197 Fr. Cavalier, N.D./Cavalier HS
Joseph Deyak WR 6-2 190 Fr. West St. Paul, Minn./St. Thomas Academy
Bryce Friday DT 6-4 240 Fr. Markesan, Wis./Markesan HS
Nathan Goldade RB 5-10 202 Fr. West Fargo, N.D./Sheyenne HS
Jesse Hastings FB 5-11 229 Fr. Woonsocket, S.D./Mount Vernon HS
Hayden Johnston OL 6-1 259 Fr. Albert Lea, Minn./Albert Lea HS
Sam Jung S 5-10 175 Fr. Neenah, Wis./Neenah HS
Joe Kava DT 5-11 229 Fr. Moorhead, Minn./Fargo Shanley HS
Nick Radunz OL 6-3 295 Jr. Becker, Minn./Becker HS/NDSCS
Trey Steinbach DE 6-3 220 Fr. Marshall, Minn./Marshall HS
Tyler Terhark WR 6-2 192 Fr. Horace, N.D./Sheyenne HS
Nathan Whiting K 5-11 201 Fr. Rosemount, Minn./Rosemount HS

[Kevin]

You're saying all our worries are Jimmies and Joes, not x's and o's ?

i don't know what that means bro

but yes.

[HerdBot]

Is 2020 Entz first year for recruits?

NORTH DAKOTA STATE 2020 FOOTBALL SIGNING CLASS
Name Pos. Ht. Wt. Yr. Hometown/Previous Schools
Seth Anderson OL/DL 6-5 253 Fr. Moorhead, Minn./Moorhead HS
Oscar Benson LB 6-0 180 Fr. Hillsboro, N.D./Hillsboro HS
Jack Bram TE 6-3 215 Fr. Maryville, Mo./Maryville HS
Courtney Eubanks CB 5-10 175 Fr. St. Petersburg, Fla./Admiral Farragut Academy
Dominic Gonnella RB 5-11 190 Fr. Riverview, Fla./Bloomingdale HS
Tyson Gordon S 6-2 177 Fr. Omaha, Neb./Skutt Catholic HS
DJ Hart WR 6-0 180 Fr. Suwanee, Ga./North Gwinnett HS
Nolan Jacobs DT 6-2 243 Fr. Cedar Rapids, Iowa/Kennedy HS
TK Marshall RB 5-11 189 Fr. Minneapolis, Minn./Southwest HS
Cam Miller QB 6-1 205 Fr. Solon, Iowa/Solon HS
Mason Miller OL 6-6 232 Fr. Ada, Minn./Ada-Borup HS
RaJa Nelson WR 5-8 175 Fr. Lakeville, Minn./Lakeville North HS
Loshiaka Roques DE 6-3 215 Fr. Maple Grove, Minn./Wayzata HS
Ty Satter S 6-1 167 Fr. Fargo, N.D./Fargo Davies HS
Marques Sigle CB 5-10 170 Fr. Omaha, Neb./Omaha North HS
Joe Stoffel TE 6-3 234 Fr. River Falls, Wis./River Falls HS
Cole Wisniewski LB 6-3 189 Fr. Sparta, Wis./Sparta HS
Grey Zabel OL 6-5 247 Fr. Pierre, S.D./T.F. Riggs HS

RECRUITED WALK-ONS (12)
Andre Carrier TE 6-3 197 Fr. Cavalier, N.D./Cavalier HS
Joseph Deyak WR 6-2 190 Fr. West St. Paul, Minn./St. Thomas Academy
Bryce Friday DT 6-4 240 Fr. Markesan, Wis./Markesan HS
Nathan Goldade RB 5-10 202 Fr. West Fargo, N.D./Sheyenne HS
Jesse Hastings FB 5-11 229 Fr. Woonsocket, S.D./Mount Vernon HS
Hayden Johnston OL 6-1 259 Fr. Albert Lea, Minn./Albert Lea HS
Sam Jung S 5-10 175 Fr. Neenah, Wis./Neenah HS
Joe Kava DT 5-11 229 Fr. Moorhead, Minn./Fargo Shanley HS
Nick Radunz OL 6-3 295 Jr. Becker, Minn./Becker HS/NDSCS
Trey Steinbach DE 6-3 220 Fr. Marshall, Minn./Marshall HS
Tyler Terhark WR 6-2 192 Fr. Horace, N.D./Sheyenne HS
Nathan Whiting K 5-11 201 Fr. Rosemount, Minn./Rosemount HS

ABOVE, I the Bolded are players that are no longer on the roster. 18 Scholarship players. 9 remain. That's 50%. Of the 9 that left, Sigle, Eubanks, and Hart were good players who contributed, so it's not like it was talent.

4 of the 12 remain, but Hastings never signed. He got a full ride at USD

By comparison, let's take a look at the 2009-2010 recruiting classes, one of our best ever. Retention is so high, I can simply bold the players who left. Those back to back classes built the dynasty. HOWEVER, the 2011 class kind of sucked because the 2009-2010 were so good

Verbals(22)
Garrett Bruhn, 6'2, 215, Beatrice, NE *1/20/2009*
Ryan Drevlow, 6'5, 240, Gwinner, ND (Milnor/North Sargent) *12/16/2008*
Josh Gatlin, 6'2, 195, Jacksonville, FL/NDSCS *12/17/2008*
Tyler Gimmestad, 6'4, 270, Marshall, MN *12/9/2008*
Andrew Grothman, 6'1, 210, Hillsboro, ND *12/16/2008*
Sidney Haynes, 6'3, 215, Suwanee, GA (transfer from Central Florida) *1/16/2009*
Hank Jacobs, 6'4, 275, Beaver Dam, WI *12/18/2008*
Brandon Jemison, 6'1, 195, Fargo (Fargo South), ND *12/16/2008*
Brock Jensen, 6'3, 210, Waupaca, WI *1/29/2009*
Jeff Jerve, 6'4, 270, Montevideo, MN *12/22/2008* **CAREER ENDING INJURY**
Cole Jirik, 6'4, 220, Northfield, MN *12/15/2008*
Justin Juckem, 6'5, 245, Chilton, WI *12/8/2008*
Taylor Nelson, 6'5, 230, Minnetonka, MN *1/26/2009*
Sam Ojuri, 6'1, 190, Barrington, IL *1/26/2009*
Bobby Ollman, 5'11, 200, Homestead, WI *1/20/2009*
Leevon Perry, 6'5, 245, St. Paul (St. Agnes), MN *1/14/2009*
Nicalaus Powell-Calhoun, 6'4, 210, Santa Ana (Segerstrom), CA *1/27/2009*
Sam Rogers, 6'2, 210, West Los Angeles Community College, CA *2/2/2009*
Michael Sigers, 5'9, 170, Houston (Forest Brook), TX *1/31/2009*
Kevin Vaadeland, 6'4, 225, Park Rapids, MN *6/24/2008*
A.J. Van Voorhis, 5'9, 180, Champlain Park, MN *1/20/2009*
Cooper Wahlo Jr., 6'2, 175, Woodbury, MN *1/29/2009*

Preferred Walkons
Logan Hushka, 5'11, 190, Fargo (Shanley), ND
Derrick Lang, 6'1, 205, Wausau West, WI
Danny Luecke, 6'5, 225, Fargo (South), ND

Let's look at 2010. Out of 27, only 6 left. Of the 6, one was a JUCO who never made it on campus. The other was a walkon. The 3rd ended up going D2 for a scholarship

SIGNEES (27)
Boen Anderson, 6-3, 300, Minnetonka, MN/NDSCS (JUCO), OL 12/8/2009 Kolpack/Forum
Travis Beck, 6-1, 190, Langdon/Munich, ND, ATH, 12/11/2009 Kolpack/Forum/Bison Media Blog
Arieal Boyd, 6-2, 190, NDSCS/Laporte, TX, DB, 3/13/2010 Bison Media Blog
Don Carter, 6-1, 220, Lake Forest (Lake Forest Academy), IL, LB 9/24/2009 Kolpack/Forum (first reported WDAY radio by same)
Zach Colvin, 5-9, 152, Superior, WI, DB/KR 8/9/2009 WisSports.net
John Crockett, 6-0, 190, Minneapolis (Totino Grace), MN, 2/2/2010 Signing day announcement
Christian Dudzik, 5-11, 180, Omaha (Skutt Catholic), NE, 12/23/2009 WDAY and Fargo Forum
Kyle Emanuel, 6-3, 225, Schuyler, NE, LB, 11/30/2009 Kolpack/Fargo Forum
Dillon Forbes, 6-2, 235, Mequon (Homestead), WI / Harper (JUCO), LB, 11/30/2009 Kolpack/Fargo Forum **Dillon never made it to campus**
Trevor Gebhart, 6-2, 180, Sioux Falls (Washington), SD, WR, 8/13/2009 Argus Leader
Tyler Gefroh, 6-2, 200, Grand Forks (Red River), ND, LB 10/10/2009 Hallstrom/WDAY/Bison Media Blog
Michael (Mike) Hardie, 6-4, 205, Sioux Falls (O'Gorman), SD, DL 7/13/2009 Fargo Forum (first reported by Terry V of the Argus Leader)
Colten Heagle, 6-0, 181, Kimberly, WI, DB 7/9/2009 WisSports.net
Jesse Hinz, 6-4, 280, Beatrice, NE, DL/OL 8/17/2009 Huskers Illustrated
Wesley Hudson, 5-10, 180, Katy, TX, ATH 1/28/2010 Fargo Forum
Adam Keller, 6-1, 190, Lewisberry (Red Land), PA, K, 3/9/2010 Bison Media Blog
Carlton Littlejohn, 6-2, 200, Minneapolis (North), MN, S, Bison Media Blog
Michael Murphy, 6-0, 230, Hollister (San Benito), CA, LS/LB Signing Day announcement
Grant Olson, 6-2, 220, Plymouth (Wayzata), MN, LB 12/31/2009 WDAY and Fox News reported it first.
Andy Pfeiffer, 6-0, 190, Mankato (Mankato West), MN, S, 11/25/2009 Bison Media ***NEVER SIGNED, WENT D2
Jason Pomerenke, 6-5, 300, Sioux City, IA, OL 8/27/2009 WDAY 10pm news
Tevin Pittman, 6-4, 193, Osceola, WI, WR (Preferred Walkon) WisSports.net
Adam Schueller, 6-4, 295, Fergus Falls, MN, OL 8/25/2009 WDAY
Ryan Smith, 5-7, 165, Wahpeton, ND, RB/WR 8/3/2009 Wahpeton Daily News (first reported on AM 740)
Esley Thorton, 6-2, 190, Bismarck, ND, QB, 8/21/2009 KYFR TV
Billy Turner, 6-5, 270, Arden Hills (Mounds View), MN, OL 11/07/2009 Hallstrom/Bison Media Blog
Zach Vraa, 6-2, 185, Rosemount, MN, WR 1/6/2010 Bison Media Blog
Chad Willson, 5-11, 230, Snow College (JUCO) / Layton HS, UT, LB 1/5/2010 http://www.areavoices.com/bisonmedia/

However... when you have 2 stud back to back classes, a mediocre class like 2011 is bound to happen

VERBALS (20)
Lucas Albers, 6-6, 240, TE, Iola (Scandanavia), WI 1/31/2011 Bison Media Blog
Andrew Bonnet, 6-3, 225, FB, Underwood, IA 12/20/2010 Bison Media Blog
Jordan Champion, 5-9, 160, CB/RB,Avondale (Westview), AZ 12/16/2010 Scout.com
Joshua Colville, 6-3, 280, OL, Minnetonka, MN 12/20/2010 Bison Media Blog
DeShawn Dinwidde, 6-2, 215, LB, Hutchinson, KS, 1/18/2011 Bison Media Blog
Berkley Grimm, 6-0, 240, FB, Regina, IA 1/18/2011 Bison Media Blog
Joe Horvath, 6-3, 245, DL, Stevens Point, WI, 9/22/2010 Bison Media Blog
Matt Jones, 5-10, 198, RB, Scottsdale (Horizon), AZ 9/30/2010 Bison Media
Ben LeCompte, 5-10, 180, P/K, Barrington, IL 1/18/2011 Daily Herald (IL)
Derek Lee, 6-4, 245, TE, Maize, KS 11/9/2010 Bison Media Blog
Josh Lisenby, 6-2, 236, DL, Chicago (DeLaSalle), 1/31/2011 EdgyTim
Danell Miles, 6-0, 190, S, Goodyear AZ 1/4/2011 rivals
Lyle Norman, 6-4, 232, LB, Roseau, MN 1/25/2011 Bison Media Blog
Andrew Okland, 6-4, 195, WR, Fargo (south), ND 1/3/2011 WDAY (waiting for link)
Nick Scoliere, 6-2, 205, S/LB, Aurora (Marmion Academy), IL 1/18/2011 Bison Media Blog
C.J. Smith, 6-0, 175, WR/DB, Burnsville, MN 12/16/2010 Minnesota Preps.com
Joey Sonnenfeld, 6-4, 200, ATH, Osseo, MN 10/6/2010 Bison Media Blog
Ryan Stanford, 6-2, 180, QB, Scottsdale (Horizon), AZ 9/30/2010 Bison Media
Frank Veldman, 6-4, 190, Apple Valley (Eastview), WR 1/23/2011 MinnesotaPreps.com
Carson Wentz, 6-5, 205, QB, Bismarck (Century), ND 1/3/2011 Bison Media Blog

WALK-ONS (9)
Brennan Cable, 6-2, 240, FB, Marshall, MN
Brandon Chrest, 6-3 195, LB/S, Cavalier, ND
Dylan Dunn, 6-3, 200, WR, Shanley, ND
Joe Haeg, 6-5, 245, OT, Brainerd, MN
Alex LaVoy, 6-1, 210, LB, Mahnomen, MN
Jacob Lesar, 6-6, 310, OG, Hermantown, MN
Nate Moody, 6-3, 190, WR, Dickinson, ND 1/31/2011 Monke's blog
Leighton Talmadge, 6-6, 220 DE, Bismarck, ND
Dan Wood, 6-4, 240, DL, Pelican Rapids, MN 1/25/2011 Bison Media

[Bisonator98]

A better comparison would probably be 2015, 1st year for Klieman's recruits?

[HerdBot]

A better comparison would probably be 2015, 1st year for Klieman's recruits?

You're going to have classes with high attrition if the team is really good. 2009-2010 was our best back to back classses in history. That mean the 2011 class kind of sucked.

Then again if the transfer portal was available post 2011, would it have been different? Would guys like Billy Turner, Emmamual and Crockett stuck around?

Also the extra covid year really fucked up rosters. Some players got an extra year by transfering. Kobe, Dom Jones and Hayes fit that bill

[BigHorns]

i don't know what that means bro

but yes.

https://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/its_not_the_xs_and_os_its_the_jimmys_and_joes

I'm inclined to think its a bit of both for us right now.
We got stubborn on playcalling based on having superior talent.

[bruinbison]

From KState site:

Klieman, a proven winner with a championship history, was named the 35th head football coach in Kansas State history on December 10, 2018

[IndyBison]

You're going to have classes with high attrition if the team is really good. 2009-2010 was our best back to back classses in history. That mean the 2011 class kind of sucked.

Then again if the transfer portal was available post 2011, would it have been different? Would guys like Billy Turner, Emmamual and Crockett stuck around?

Also the extra covid year really fucked up rosters. Some players got an extra year by transfering. Kobe, Dom Jones and Hayes fit that billAs a reminder, the transfer portal is not the issue. It's just the vehicle the student athletes can now use if they want to transfer. The reason they can transfer much easier is they no longer lose a year of eligibility if they transfer up or the same level.

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[HerdBot]

As a reminder, the transfer portal is not the issue. It's just the vehicle the student athletes can now use if they want to transfer. The reason they can transfer much easier is they no longer lose a year of eligibility if they transfer up or the same level.

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That is significant. They also dont have to sit out a year where before you wouldnt sit out unless you transfered down

[IndyBison]

That is significant. They also dont have to sit out a year where before you wouldnt sit out unless you transfered downThat's what I said

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[HerdBot]

That's what I said

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Did they lose a year before or did they have to sit out a year? Or both? It seems like that was a lifetime ago and I can't remember