2022: Fall Signing Day

[tony]

Let the commitments commence!

[Bison Bridge Guy]

Let the commitments commence!

Gobison.com homepage has a roster of all signees and a scroll showing who has signed and what time they did.

https://gobison.com/

[Bison 4 Life]

14 in before I've even finished breakfast. Gonna be a good day.

[Professor Chaos]

LOIs are flying in this morning on https://twitter.com/NDSUfootball

Looks like 31 commits unless there's another surprise or two:

Hudson Artz, S, 5'11" 181, Fairmont MN
Kelton McCaslin, DE, 6'4" 206, St Charles IL
Kaden Zenzen, TE, 6'4" 203, Barnesville MN
Nathaniel Staehling, LB, 6'2" 220, Baxter MN
Kegan Huber, CB, 5'11" 171, Lake Geneva WI
Max Radar, OL, 6'6" 250, De Pere WI
Kaden Chadwick, OL, 6'5" 267, Granville ND
Mateo Noriega, OL, 6'4" 274, Burnsville MN
Luke Kokat, TE, 6'2" 225, Sturtevant WI
Devin Lockerby, OL, 6'4" 298, Faribault MN
Brit Senftner, LB, 6'2" 186, Bismarck ND
Logan Larson, DT 6'2" 252, Woodbury MN
Nathan Hayes, QB, 6'2" 192, West Chicago IL
Josh Magin, DT, 6'5" 230, Shakopee MN
Trevor Brown, DT, 6'1" 258, Eagle NE
Darius Givance, DB, 6'1" 193, Champlin MN
John Gores, WR, 5'6" 150, Fargo ND
Nate Forystek, TE, 6'5" 240, Green Bay WI
Carson Hegerle, WR, 6'2" 178, West Fargo ND
Cedric Wall, WR, 6'0" 178, Rosemount MN
Jacob Kelly, LB, 6'3" 210, Laporte MN
Ben Goldy, OL, 6'7" 294, Rapid City SD
Kellen Entz, WR, 6'2" 190, West Fargo ND
Drew Klein, K, 5'9" 164, Hortonville WI
Mekhi Collins, WR, 6'4" 205, North Mankato MN
Austin Altepeter, LB, 6'2" 211, Moorhead MN
Kelby Azure, TE, 6'3" 225, Portland ND
Gannon Williams, DE, 6'3" 225, Marshalltown IA
John Kaczor, DT, 6'1" 284, St Augusta MN
Allante Burley, DE, 6'1" 242, Lawrenceville GA
Toby Anene, DE, 6'3" 231, Cottage Grove MN

[DakotaOkie]

Is it odd there is not a single RB on the list nor anyone from outside the upper midwest thus far? Whatever happened to the connections in Florida, Georgia, and Texas?

[tolnabison]

LOIs are flying in this morning on https://twitter.com/NDSUfootball

Already in (25):

Hudson Artz, S, 5'11" 181, Fairmont MN
Kelton McCaslin, DE, 6'4" 206, St Charles IL
Kaden Zenzen, TE, 6'4" 203, Barnesville MN
Nathaniel Staehling, LB, 6'2" 220, Baxter MN
Kegan Huber, CB, 5'11" 171, Lake Geneva WI
Max Radar, OL, 6'6" 250, De Pere WI
Kaden Chadwick, OL, 6'5" 267, Granville ND
Mateo Noriega, OL, 6'4" 274, Burnsville MN
Luke Kokat, TE, 6'2" 225, Sturtevant WI
Devin Lockerby, OL, 6'4" 298, Faribault MN
Brit Senftner, LB, 6'2" 186, Bismarck ND
Logan Larson, DT 6'2" 252, Woodbury MN
Nathan Hayes, QB, 6'2" 192, West Chicago IL
Josh Magin, DT, 6'5" 230, Shakopee MN
Trevor Brown, DT, 6'1" 258, Eagle NE
Darius Givance, DB, 6'1" 193, Champlin MN
John Gores, WR, 5'6" 150, Fargo ND
Nate Forystek, TE, 6'5" 240, Green Bay WI
Carson Hegerle, WR, 6'2" 178, West Fargo ND
Cedric Wall, WR, 6'0" 178, Rosemount MN
Jacob Kelly, LB, 6'3" 210, Laporte MN
Ben Goldy, OL, 6'7" 294, Rapid City SD
Kellen Entz, WR, 6'2" 190, West Fargo ND
Drew Klein, K, 5'9" 164, Hortonville WI
Mekhi Collins, WR, 6'4" 205, North Mankato MN


Still waiting on:

Austin Altepeter
Toby Anene
Kelby Azure
John Kaczor
Andy Thomsen
Gannon Williams
I am worried about this one. Dom Izzo was speculating that their will be a third de-commit. He is the name on this list that would worry me the most.

[17>1]

Is it odd there is not a single RB on the list nor anyone from outside the upper midwest thus far? Whatever happened to the connections in Florida, Georgia, and Texas?

I think what we've typically seen in the last few years are getting those types of athletes after this early signing period, with a couple of schollies remaining. IIRC Kobe Johnson was a late signee from GA.....correct me if I'm wrong.

[Professor Chaos]

I am worried about this one. Dom Izzo was speculating that their will be a third de-commit. He is the name on this list that would worry me the most.
Man, that would suck... NDSU was his first offer way back in June and he's been verbally committed since 7/1. His twitter bio still lists him as an NDSU commit and as recently as a couple weeks ago he seemed very much still committed: https://twitter.com/DomIzzoWDAY/status/1466988012173209604. But I guess if a P5 comes calling you can't blame the guy...


Is it odd there is not a single RB on the list nor anyone from outside the upper midwest thus far? Whatever happened to the connections in Florida, Georgia, and Texas?
Might have something to do with having no seniors RBs on the roster. They've got 4 juniors (counting Luepke), 3 sophs, and 3 freshman on the roster currently. Seth Wilson is a senior listed on the roster but I wonder if he's going to try to use his COVID year and make one more go at it next fall???

[El_Chapo]

I am worried about this one. Dom Izzo was speculating that their will be a third de-commit. He is the name on this list that would worry me the most.

St Thomas putting the heat on him and He was looking for a gophers pwo too. I think we got 75%-80% of keeping him.

[Professor Chaos]

St Thomas putting the heat on him and He was looking for a gophers pwo too. I think we got 75%-80% of keeping him.
St Thomas??? Really??? NDSU must only be offering him a partial or a PWO themselves then.... unless he has some personal connection to St Thomas.

[Kujava23]

St Thomas putting the heat on him and He was looking for a gophers pwo too. I think we got 75%-80% of keeping him.

Do you think St. Thomas can start winning battles in MN vs. NDSU?

[Hammerhead]

inforum.com is down so I can't listen to Hot Mic on my phone.

[TAILG8R]

inforum.com is down so I can't listen to Hot Mic on my phone.

Yeah not the day you want your services to go down if your Dom.

[Kujava23]

Yeah I can't see the SIGNING DAY info on GoBison.com anymore

[Professor Chaos]

I've thought since we saw the Senior Day participation list that this is an awfully large class considering the fact that only 10 guys went through the individual Senior Day recognition. Makes me wonder whether there's some roster attrition coming that they're preparing for.

[TAILG8R]

Yeah I can't see the SIGNING DAY info on GoBison.com anymore

That is strange they would take it down already. I wonder if it's a blip and it will come back?

[Jay]

It's up for me.

[GreenfieldBison]

Do you think St. Thomas can start winning battles in MN vs. NDSU?

Well if a kid has a desire to work for one of the many corporations that HQ down here in the TC and he can get an academic scholarship to St Thomas then sure that's possible. Also maybe a kid prefers a more diverse urban environment.

[Jay]

Allante Burley... DE from Georgia is a new name.

[Professor Chaos]

Well, here's a new name: Allante Burley, 6'1" 242 lb DE from Lawrenceville Georgia.

https://twitter.com/NDSUfootball/status/1471138803431751680

[HerdBot]

Well if a kid has a desire to work for one of the many corporations that HQ down here in the TC and he can get an academic scholarship to St Thomas then sure that's possible. Also maybe a kid prefers a more diverse urban environment.

St Thomas' campus, despite location, is so white it makes UND hockey look diverse

[Hammerhead]

Yeah not the day you want your services to go down if your Dom.

They were supposed to be rolling out a updated version of inforum.com according to an email I received the other day noting that I might have to log in again.

[GreenfieldBison]

St Thomas' campus, despite location, is so white it makes UND hockey look diverse

Sure and as you likely know they fence all those people in so they can't get out in the community.

Quite a few St. Thomas commits among MN best here. https://www.startribune.com/national-signing-day-minnesota-55-players-minnesota-msu-mankato-st-thomas-north-dakota-ndsu/600127014/ (https://www.startribune.com/national-signing-day-minnesota-55-players-minnesota-msu-mankato-st-thomas-north-dakota-ndsu/600127014/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=amnews)

[tolnabison]

Well, here's a new name: Allante Burley, 6'1" 242 lb DE from Lawrenceville Georgia.

https://twitter.com/NDSUfootball/status/1471138803431751680

Might be our sign that Anene is heading else where. Assuming Anene was going to be an edge player for us.

This is all my speculation, I have facts or haven't heard anything. Just he plays at East Ridge HS along with Logan Larson, whose NIL is already in.

Hope I am wrong, because he looks very dynamic. I think DE is a position of need for next year.

[tcbison]

LOIs are flying in this morning on https://twitter.com/NDSUfootball

Already in (30):

Hudson Artz, S, 5'11" 181, Fairmont MN
Kelton McCaslin, DE, 6'4" 206, St Charles IL
Kaden Zenzen, TE, 6'4" 203, Barnesville MN
Nathaniel Staehling, LB, 6'2" 220, Baxter MN
Kegan Huber, CB, 5'11" 171, Lake Geneva WI
Max Radar, OL, 6'6" 250, De Pere WI
Kaden Chadwick, OL, 6'5" 267, Granville ND
Mateo Noriega, OL, 6'4" 274, Burnsville MN
Luke Kokat, TE, 6'2" 225, Sturtevant WI
Devin Lockerby, OL, 6'4" 298, Faribault MN
Brit Senftner, LB, 6'2" 186, Bismarck ND
Logan Larson, DT 6'2" 252, Woodbury MN
Nathan Hayes, QB, 6'2" 192, West Chicago IL
Josh Magin, DT, 6'5" 230, Shakopee MN
Trevor Brown, DT, 6'1" 258, Eagle NE
Darius Givance, DB, 6'1" 193, Champlin MN
John Gores, WR, 5'6" 150, Fargo ND
Nate Forystek, TE, 6'5" 240, Green Bay WI
Carson Hegerle, WR, 6'2" 178, West Fargo ND
Cedric Wall, WR, 6'0" 178, Rosemount MN
Jacob Kelly, LB, 6'3" 210, Laporte MN
Ben Goldy, OL, 6'7" 294, Rapid City SD
Kellen Entz, WR, 6'2" 190, West Fargo ND
Drew Klein, K, 5'9" 164, Hortonville WI
Mekhi Collins, WR, 6'4" 205, North Mankato MN
Austin Altepeter, LB, 6'2" 211, Moorhead MN
Kelby Azure, TE, 6'3" 225, Portland ND
Gannon Williams, DE, 6'3" 225, Marshalltown IA
John Kaczor, DT, 6'1" 284, St Augusta MN
Allante Burley, DE, 6'1" 242, Lawrenceville GA


Still waiting on:

Toby Anene

Twitter shows that Toby Anene is in.

[Professor Chaos]

Might be our sign that Anene is heading else where. Assuming Anene was going to be an edge player for us.

This is all my speculation, I have facts or haven't heard anything. Just he plays at East Ridge HS along with Logan Larson, whose NIL is already in.

Hope I am wrong, because he looks very dynamic. I think DE is a position of need for next year.
Anene is in!

https://twitter.com/NDSUfootball/status/1471144111302393857

[tolnabison]

Toby is in! All my speculation was just speculation. I am done guessing now.

[bruinbison]

St Thomas putting the heat on him and He was looking for a gophers pwo too. I think we got 75%-80% of keeping him.

Remember folks what the great President Bisonville always said,
Trust at your own risk, but always verify!!!

[Bison 4 Life]

wait, no unexpected flips today?

[TAILG8R]

Anyone wanting to watch Dom's Hotmic show can find it here - https://livestream.com/forumcomm/events/8973243
(https://livestream.com/forumcomm/events/8973243)
Inforum is still down but this is a direct link to the video host :)

You can rewind to the beginning by dragging the scrub line.

[tcbison]

Anyone wanting to watch Dom's Hotmic show can find it here - https://livestream.com/forumcomm/events/8973243
(https://livestream.com/forumcomm/events/8973243)
Inforum is still down but this is a direct link to the video host :)

You can rewind to the beginning by dragging the scrub line.

Thank you!

[El_Chapo]

Well, here's a new name: Allante Burley, 6'1" 242 lb DE from Lawrenceville Georgia.

https://twitter.com/NDSUfootball/status/1471138803431751680

https://recruitgeorgia.com/players/allante-burley-athpeachtree-ridge/ he says he is 6'4 quite the difference, here's his page

[El_Chapo]

Remember folks what the great President Bisonville always said,
Trust at your own risk, but always verify!!!

you are something. he stayed with NDSU that's great.

[HerdBot]

Sure and as you likely know they fence all those people in so they can't get out in the community.

Quite a few St. Thomas commits among MN best here. https://www.startribune.com/national-signing-day-minnesota-55-players-minnesota-msu-mankato-st-thomas-north-dakota-ndsu/600127014/ (https://www.startribune.com/national-signing-day-minnesota-55-players-minnesota-msu-mankato-st-thomas-north-dakota-ndsu/600127014/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=amnews)

To my knowledge, we never offered any of their commits. They might be competitive for teams like Mankato

[rutlandbison]

https://twitter.com/NDSUfootball/status/1471138803431751680?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Who is this?

[GreenfieldBison]

To my knowledge, we never offered any of their commits. They might be competitive for teams like Mankato

Did not say we competed for those recruits nor any of the others who committed elsewhere. It's a list of Minnesota's 55 best for this year and St. Thomas, as well as NDSU and UND, is well represented there.

[bruinbison]

you are something. he stayed with NDSU that's great.

A guy from Philly told me he would

[HerdBot]

Did not say we competed for those recruits nor any of the others who committed elsewhere. It's a list of Minnesota's 55 best for this year and St. Thomas, as well as NDSU and UND, is well represented there.

It's the same reason the NSIC teams like Duluth and Mankato do well. There is a ton of talent in Minnesota but not many D1 options. That's why St Thomas was great in D3 and is already very good in non scholarship D1.

NDSU got 12 of the top 55 players in Minnesota or 21%. St Thomas got 7. Duluth 6. UND 6. MSU Mankato 3. USD - 1 SDSU - 0 Northern Iowa 0. Illinois State 1.

The Gophers only signed 5 of the top players from Minnesota. Obviously they recruit more southern and go after 4-5 star kids, but still.

[HerdBot]

Might be our sign that Anene is heading else where. Assuming Anene was going to be an edge player for us.

This is all my speculation, I have facts or haven't heard anything. Just he plays at East Ridge HS along with Logan Larson, whose NIL is already in.

Hope I am wrong, because he looks very dynamic. I think DE is a position of need for next year.

Nope, he signed. We got 2 dynamic edge rushers in this class.

[KTF]

whos the biggest "Get" of the class?

[Twincitybizon]

whos the biggest "Get" of the class?

Every offensive lineman, FB, TE that signed because we're ndsu and they fuck :)

[ndsubison1]

#1 Overall Recruit is going to play for Deion at Jackson State. We gotta schedule them.

[HerdBot]

Well, here's a new name: Allante Burley, 6'1" 242 lb DE from Lawrenceville Georgia.

https://twitter.com/NDSUfootball/status/1471138803431751680

That kid looks like a heck of an athlete. He played TE and DE. Although his Junior hudl says he is 6-4, which a few recruiting sites question his height. Either way if he's 6-1, he looks to be in the mold of a Tony Pierce, at least frame wise and being athletic. Probably an edge rusher

[tolnabison]

Nope, he signed. We got 2 dynamic edge rushers in this class.

I am glad you read the whole thread.

[El_Chapo]

whos the biggest "Get" of the class?

Mehki Collins Staehling from Brainerd & Hegerle

saw this on a board...
"The best player I saw play football this year in Minnesota high school football. Maybe the best in the three decades I’ve been watching. Dude hits like a truck! Best of luck"

[ByeSonBusiness]

wait, no unexpected flips today?

The number 1 recruit in the country flipped from Florida State to Jackson State

[Bison 4 Life]

The number 1 recruit in the country flipped from Florida State to Jackson State

Won't play him, don't care.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/xfD6mEBfQM3wk/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47h5u6xof04likahr4pr41q2rq04xd fi06wqpa32vf&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[THEsocalledfan]

The number 1 recruit in the country flipped from Florida State to Jackson State

So, can someone explain this? Sound like there was NIL connection to this?

[HerdBot]

whos the biggest "Get" of the class?

This class did a great job of sticking to the northern footprint, which is probably a way to keep attrition low in the transfer portal world.

I think this class is heavier on developmental guys. Lots of tall athletic skinny guys with frames to become great players. They will take a few years, but ultimately when Kramer is done with them, we will have some studs. It's the best way to sustain a program.

Josh Magin - 6-5, 230 DT/DL
Max Rader - 6-6 250 OL
Kelton McCaslin, 6-4, 206 DE
Ben Goldy, 6-7, 294 OL

Trevor Brown is the guy I think will make an impact early. Reminds me of Schaetz

Bigger names are Zenzen (I assumed he would go to Iowa State), Hegerle, Collins and Anene. Darius Givance is a steal.

Lot of good height and frames

[Bison 4 Life]

So, can someone explain this? Sound like there was NIL connection to this?

Oh my was there ever. Millions it looks like.

[Professor Chaos]

So, can someone explain this? Sound like there was NIL connection to this?
Sounds like that's the case but I don't care the circumstances surrounding it seeing an FCS school poach a P5 recruit on signing day is just so delicious!

[HerdBot]

Listened to Hot Mic with Dom, says the scholarship number is pretty low with 10 returning super seniors and many of these guys are probably walk ons.

[Professor Chaos]

Listened to Hot Mic with Dom, says the scholarship number is pretty low with 10 returning super seniors and many of these guys are probably walk ons.
Has anyone asked Entz or Eano about roster limits? They've got 114 players on the roster now and if they only lose the 10-12 seniors that are confirmed or rumored to be leaving and add say 3-5 more incoming freshman in the late signing period that's almost 140 guys on the roster. I thought 125 was the max?

[#1BISONFAN ASHLEY]

Has anyone asked Entz or Eano about roster limits? They've got 114 players on the roster now and if they only lose the 10-12 seniors that are confirmed or rumored to be leaving and add say 3-5 more incoming freshman in the late signing period that's almost 140 guys on the roster. I thought 125 was the max?

With this big of a recruiting class, it seems like the coaches are expecting transfers after the season. I could be completely off, I'm just guessing.

[ByeSonBusiness]

So, can someone explain this? Sound like there was NIL connection to this?

I'm sure he's getting hooked up well. Then off to the NFL

[Bison 4 Life]

Sounds like that's the case but I don't care the circumstances surrounding it seeing an FCS school poach a P5 recruit on signing day is just so delicious!

https://i.imgur.com/8oYndWf.png


Apparently Barstool is going a documentary on JSU.

[THEsocalledfan]

Listened to Hot Mic with Dom, says the scholarship number is pretty low with 10 returning super seniors and many of these guys are probably walk ons.

Frankly, its horse crap that super senior scholarships count against the number. (or however you want to do it) That means less money for other kids. Only the NCAA could be this incompetent.

[#1BISONFAN ASHLEY]

https://i.imgur.com/8oYndWf.png


Apparently Barstool is going a documentary on JSU.

If you read his handle, that is not the real Schefter

[Bison 4 Life]

If you read his handle, that is not the real Schefter

Yeah I know but the info is true. They got all that Penn National money behind them. They are paying this kid to go to JSU and do their documentary.

[Mr Meaty]

Yeah I know but the info is true. They got all that Penn National money behind them. They are paying this kid to go to JSU and do their documentary.

The beginning of the end to college sports people. IMHO

[Bison 4 Life]

The beginning of the end to college sports people. IMHO

This is still less than .01% of all players. Nobody's paying a punter anything to play.

[Mr Meaty]

This is still less than .01% of all players. Nobody's paying a punter anything to play.

It has to start with someone. What will Duke Basketball do? UNC Basketball?

[Grizzled]

Frankly, its horse crap that super senior scholarships count against the number. (or however you want to do it) That means less money for other kids. Only the NCAA could be this incompetent.

Why?? They are on the team and roster management is part of college sports. Coaches keep the guys that help and cut loose the guys that don’t. I think not counting a “super seniors” scholarship towards the total would lead to teams loading up on transfers.

[Bison 4 Life]

It has to start with someone. What will Duke Basketball do? UNC Basketball?

That, my friend, is going to be wild. I still think it will be limited but yeah, those one and dones at Kentucky are going to make some BANK.

[StL Bison Fan]

whos the biggest "Get" of the class?

Entz was asked this in the press conference today. His answer, tweeted by Izzo

Matt Entz says Rapid City offensive lineman Ben Goldy “may be the steal of the class.”

[Bisonator98]

The beginning of the end to college sports people. IMHO

Yep only a matter of time. Hard to justify the expense of college athletics at public institutions when this becomes the norm. Might as well call it the minor leagues at this point and cut it out of the educational system.

[THEsocalledfan]

Why?? They are on the team and roster management is part of college sports. Coaches keep the guys that help and cut loose the guys that don’t. I think not counting a “super seniors” scholarship towards the total would lead to teams loading up on transfers.

Any way you cut this, there is less opportunity for scholarship dollars as a whole since some players are eating them an extra year. Those should not count, period. I'm thinking about this from the perspective of the percentage of players that can be on scholarship that are eligible to be on teams.

[17>1]

Listening to that presser yesterday just made me realize how little I really know about football.

[tony]

Yep only a matter of time. Hard to justify the expense of college athletics at public institutions when this becomes the norm. Might as well call it the minor leagues at this point and cut it out of the educational system.

Time for some serious NCAA reform (including taking football back) - and time to kick the SEC et al out if they don't agree. If you turn the management of college sports over to the SEC, you are really turning it over to media conglomerates.

[Hammerhead]

So, can someone explain this? Sound like there was NIL connection to this?

Is there anything in the current N.I.L model to keep Buddy Garrity from giving a $million/year endorsement deal to promising recruit as long as they are playing for TMU?

[StL Bison Fan]

Is there anything in the current N.I.L model to keep Buddy Garrity from giving a $million/year endorsement deal to promising recruit as long as they are playing for TMU?

Are we sure that didn’t happen elsewhere yesterday?

[roadwarrior]

Any way you cut this, there is less opportunity for scholarship dollars as a whole since some players are eating them an extra year. Those should not count, period. I'm thinking about this from the perspective of the percentage of players that can be on scholarship that are eligible to be on teams.

I am pretty sure the extra year players do NOT count against the scholarship limits.

[tony]

I am pretty sure the extra year players do NOT count against the scholarship limits.

If Road being pretty sure isn't good enough:


NCAA Extra Year of Eligibility | Coronavirus Rules (ncsasports.org) (https://www.ncsasports.org/coronavirus-sports/ncaa-eligibility-coronavirus)

"For D1 fall sports, seniors who have scholarships and who will be using the extra year of eligibility will not count against the team’s scholarship limit for the 2021-22 season."

[Professor Chaos]

If Road being pretty sure isn't good enough:

College football super seniors could change fortunes in 2021 – The Denver Post (https://www.denverpost.com/2021/02/28/college-football-super-seniors/#:~:text=Super%20seniors%20are%20defined%20as%20pl ayers%20who%20would,numbers%20for%20each%20team%20 are%20subject%20to%20change.)
Isn't that only for this season though? I thought going forward super seniors will count towards scholarship limits.

[THEsocalledfan]

Isn't that only for this season though? I thought going forward super seniors will count towards scholarship limits.

Dom sure seemed to think the same which is why I ranted on it. This issue does not go away for 4 years since no years counted for anyone.......