The Zeb era is over

[THEsocalledfan]

So, do we have any other options at all?

[WeAreThePride]

There's always the Veer.

[Bisonator98]

Why the fuck didn't they play Miller after the int? I think we may be stuck with him this spring.

[BiZon22]

He’s the worst Qb we’ve had since... what? The 90s?


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[Professor Chaos]

There's always the Veer.
Not with this o-line. Just a reminder that UND ran for 230 on these guys last week.

[reformedUNDfan]

Not with this o-line. Just a reminder that UND ran for 230 on these guys last week.

was that the Oline or the 180 lb running back up the middle 13 times

[Big Bird]

was that the Oline or the 180 lb running back up the middle 13 times

Both, but mainly the o-line. Had the o-line opened some holes, the small rbs could have gotten a little going.

[td577]

Both, but mainly the o-line. Had the o-line opened some holes, the small rbs could have gotten a little going.The o-line ain't opening holes with 8 guys in the box. Run outside, wr screens, and anything but continuing to pound the ball inside against a defense ready for a gap runs. SIU sold out completely to inside runs and the Bison obliged. The when it was 3rd and long, the dog guys pinned their ears back and disrupted the passing game. The Bison made it an easy game.

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[Professor Chaos]

The o-line ain't opening holes with 8 guys in the box. Run outside, wr screens, and anything but continuing to pound the ball inside against a defense ready for a gap runs. SIU sold out completely to inside runs and the Bison obliged. The when it was 3rd and long, the dog guys pinned their ears back and disrupted the passing game. The Bison made it an easy game.

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I think you're over-simplifying it. They passed plenty on first down but were almost completely inept then too.

[El_Chapo]

F Iowa State

[23Bison]

Zeb era apparently should never have started.

[tjbison]

The OC has to take some of the heat, 3rd and 8 and we try to run straight up the gut?? WTF

Some very poor decisions all around

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[HerdistheWord]

Zeb started the game with some on target throws. He seems like someone who gets rattled and loses his composure.

[EC8CH]

Zeb started the game with some on target throws. He seems like someone who gets rattled and loses his composure.

I just don't see the potential.

[NDSUstudent]

I just don't see the potential.

Our offense requires a dual threat QB unless we have a QB that is like Walker and Zeb ain't no Walker. A change has to be made.

[Hammerhead]

Zeb didn’t have the best game, but who did today?

[tjbison]

Zeb didn’t have the best game, but who did today?SIU..........

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[EC8CH]

Our offense requires a dual threat QB unless we have a QB that is like Walker and Zeb ain't no Walker. A change has to be made.

Agreed. He is zero threat in the run game. That is the long term concern.

[23Bison]

Tyler called a terrible game today and Zeb didn’t help out at all. Entz just let it all happen.

[heckler]

He’s the worst Qb we’ve had since... what? The 90s?


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Mertens...

[tolnabison]

F Iowa State

But he's an FBS recruit?

[tolnabison]

Agreed. He is zero threat in the run game. That is the long term concern.

This is it. Over the last 10 years our offense has slowly added more QB run game. And Noland offers none. Play Cam, live with the growing pains.

[td577]

I think you're over-simplifying it. They passed plenty on first down but were almost completely inept then too.Not really. With the exception of the TD drive before half, the Bison passed twice on 1st down in the first half and they were on the same drive.

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[KSBisonFan]

But he's an FBS recruit?

And an NFL prospect.

[Snowgoose]

You could see it last week and again this week. Zeb looks like a freshman QB that is extremely nervous in the pocket and struggles moving off his first read. Since he is a fifth year QB we need to move on to somebody else ASAP.

Also everybody wants more from the TEs but they are going out on routes just a guy that isn’t confident and can look off receivers doesn’t end up throwing to the TE. Even with our great QBs of the past when they were young they didn’t throw to the TE.

[North Side]

Developing NDSU own QB in their system > having a transfer QB

[mtoutfitter]

But he's an FBS recruit?

Yes, with 3 Stars!!! More than one FBS offer too! He's GOTTA be great.

[scottietohottie]

But he's got a bigger arm then trey. Saw it on Bisonville.

[scottietohottie]

I thought last weekend has this flabby armed mustache man even ever met Jim Kramer?

[BisonAccountant44]

But he's an FBS recruit?So was Tony Staus. Not that he was a bad QB, but the fact that Zeb threw for a bunch of yards 1 time against a bad Big12 D was never a meaningful selling point to me.

Quincy is the same, but opposite trait. The hype with him is he's a great runner, but terrible passer. I'm not that excited to see him either when that and a former FBS tag are all we have on him.

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[bisoneer]

Zeb needs to improve his foot work as it appears too slow and out of time when he is setting up to throw it. He sailed some passes today for sure. I think the O line was out matched by the big Salukas as we were alway at 3rd and 8 or 10 to go! No screens, no sweeps, no balls to our TEs. Kolpack said this was the game we would lose and he was right. So. Ill. is a good team, now UND looks good too all of the sudden with their win over the bunnies today. Our team must have had a long and quiet flight home today after this mess in your pants game. Who do we play next week, the Mules so can we lay an egg there too? Lets hope not. Good luck to the coaches and players this week on righting the ship! I would try a platoon of qb's for next game. Give each one a quarter to see what happens. Also need to convert one of the TEs into a FB so we can get some size and athleticism in the backfield.

[tolnabison]

So was Tony Staus. Not that he was a bad QB, but the fact that Zeb threw for a bunch of yards 1 time against a bad Big12 D was never a meaningful selling point to me.

Quincy is the same, but opposite trait. The hype with him is he's a great runner, but terrible passer. I'm not that excited to see him either when that and a former FBS tag are all we have on him.

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This isn't a shot at the player. This a shot at El Chapo's love for FBS recruits.

[bisoneer]

Coaches will be working long hours this week to right the ship but I think new players at key positions has to be looked at. We dont want this program to revert to a .500 team and then brag about winning a rival or trophy game once a year after this long run of nearly dream team football. Where are our class A recruits that we have been getting as a result of the championship success of this program? They must be here but are they not playing as in 2021 this team is going to play 20 regular season games or are they too young to toss in a fire of hungry wolves that the rest of the conference really is right now?

[td577]

Coaches will be working long hours this week to right the ship but I think new players at key positions has to be looked at. We dont want this program to revert to a .500 team and then brag about winning a rival or trophy game once a year after this long run of nearly dream team football. Where are our class A recruits that we have been getting as a result of the championship success of this program? They must be here but are they not playing as in 2021 this team is going to play 20 regular season games or are they too young to toss in a fire of hungry wolves that the rest of the conference really is right now?I'm not saying this spring is a throw away, but this is not the 2020 team by a long shot. A regular 2020 fall has a returning starting qb and a more experienced o-line. With a regular schedule going into this fall, a full camp has a full compliment of players competing at many positions.

This isn't a reload, it is a bandage. Also, the coaches can't burn guys out with another season starting a couple months after the completion of this one. This out of whack schedule with a free season basically favors those fringe programs like SIU and UN_. Go all out and don't worry about getting back into your regular schedule.

If I'm NDSU, it would be tough this spring. How do you get completely off your off-season weight program? You work 4 to 5 year plans with these guys and this year throws it all off? I would not be giving up the next 3 or 4 championships to go completely off schedule this spring.

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[El_Chapo]

Zeb peaked at the Oklahoma game apparently. Did our coaches even LOOK at that film ?

they are trying to do round peg, square hole. it wont work.

Either put Zeb in Shotgun and throw 30+ times and mix in a run, or go 4-7 trying to be macho.

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

I'm not saying this spring is a throw away, but this is not the 2020 team by a long shot. A regular 2020 fall has a returning starting qb and a more experienced o-line. With a regular schedule going into this fall, a full camp has a full compliment of players competing at many positions.

This isn't a reload, it is a bandage. Also, the coaches can't burn guys out with another season starting a couple months after the completion of this one. This out of whack schedule with a free season basically favors those fringe programs like SIU and UN_. Go all out and don't worry about getting back into your regular schedule.

If I'm NDSU, it would be tough this spring. How do you get completely off your off-season weight program? You work 4 to 5 year plans with these guys and this year throws it all off? I would not be giving up the next 3 or 4 championships to go completely off schedule this spring.

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I agree with this guy

Montana schools looking pretty smart at this point IMO

Use the rest of the "spring season" (who's the idiot that had this idea again?) to develop the team and play spoiler. Nothing left to lose at this point

[scottietohottie]

I'm not saying this spring is a throw away, but this is not the 2020 team by a long shot. A regular 2020 fall has a returning starting qb and a more experienced o-line. With a regular schedule going into this fall, a full camp has a full compliment of players competing at many positions.

This isn't a reload, it is a bandage. Also, the coaches can't burn guys out with another season starting a couple months after the completion of this one. This out of whack schedule with a free season basically favors those fringe programs like SIU and UN_. Go all out and don't worry about getting back into your regular schedule.

If I'm NDSU, it would be tough this spring. How do you get completely off your off-season weight program? You work 4 to 5 year plans with these guys and this year throws it all off? I would not be giving up the next 3 or 4 championships to go completely off schedule this spring.

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That's why Matt lardson should have pushed for playing last fall not this spring. Could have should have would have. It's a joke what they have know to what they had last August. Ridiculous. Oh and for the guys thinking everything is so peachy in the locker room a running back quit last week after a starter went down for the season. Think on that.

[bisoneer]

Successful teams thrive on ROUTINE and that is all out the window now as coaches and players make adjustments to the "routine" maybe weekly. This is throwing a wrench into next falls football routine as well. The players want to play as much as they can but the mind and the body reach a maximized level in some situations. In addition, what are the revenue people doing being closed doors? With the NCAA losing millions of dollars what will the FCS playoffs look like in two months, will stadiums be half full or full. Our offense needs to get out of its funk. What is the plan?

[Kevin]

That's why Matt lardson should have pushed for playing last fall not this spring. Could have should have would have. It's a joke what they have know to what they had last August. Ridiculous. Oh and for the guys thinking everything is so peachy in the locker room a running back quit last week after a starter went down for the season. Think on that.

Lakes had the right idea. Play who will play us then wait for fall. Whoever wins the title this year is getting an asterisk anyway.

But no one listened.

[ByeSonBusiness]

Lakes had the right idea. Play who will play us then wait for fall. Whoever wins the title this year is getting an asterisk anyway.

But no one listened.

Why would their be an asterisk?

[Kevin]

Why would their be an asterisk?

Tons of teams opted out. Tons of players opted out. Stadiums damn near empty.

It’s just obvious that no matter what happens it won’t be viewed the same.

[EC8CH]

That's why Matt lardson should have pushed for playing last fall not this spring. Could have should have would have. It's a joke what they have know to what they had last August. Ridiculous. Oh and for the guys thinking everything is so peachy in the locker room a running back quit last week after a starter went down for the season. Think on that.

Stewart left likely because he was being passed up on the depth cart. Has happened before, will happen again. Who was NDSU gonna play football against last fall? Options were to play this spring or sit out like the Montanas.

[NDSUstudent]

That's why Matt lardson should have pushed for playing last fall not this spring. Could have should have would have. It's a joke what they have know to what they had last August. Ridiculous. Oh and for the guys thinking everything is so peachy in the locker room a running back quit last week after a starter went down for the season. Think on that.

There may have been no fans in the stands, so fall football wasn't going to happen unless some FBS money rolled in and that well was dry. That said, the Montana schools had it right.

[barnwintersportsengelstad]

There may have been no fans in the stands, so fall football wasn't going to happen unless some FBS money rolled in and that well was dry. That said, the Montana schools had it right.

Main reason Montana's did it was their outdoor stadiums.

[Urban Meyer]

Main reason Montana's did it was their outdoor stadiums. No indoor stadiums, no indoor practice facilities. Almost impossible for them to play.

[scottietohottie]

https://media.giphy.com/media/6YpMJnre6LOig5f2vO/giphy.gif

[WeAreThePride]

https://media.giphy.com/media/6YpMJnre6LOig5f2vO/giphy.gif

Maybe he's the opposite of Samson, and he needs to shave the moustache to get his power.

Sorry to trigger the Bible haters.

[The_Sicatoka]

So was Tony Stauss.

I watched NDSU's first game and that's who I "saw" when I saw this new fellow for NDSU. (Mertens was more mobile.)

This says you have a QB that started for VA Tech at Notre Dame. That begs the question ... why not him?
https://gobison.com/sports/football/roster/quincy-patterson/14475

[Hammerhead]

I watched NDSU's first game and that's who I "saw" when I saw this new fellow for NDSU. (Mertens was more mobile.)

This says you have a QB that started for VA Tech at Notre Dame. That begs the question ... why not him?
https://gobison.com/sports/football/roster/quincy-patterson/14475

He played in the fall so isn't eligible to play this spring.

[EC8CH]

He played in the fall so isn't eligible to play this spring.

Staff said they would try every avenue to try and get him eligible this spring. That statement makes more sense now.

[OrygunBison]

I watched NDSU's first game and that's who I "saw" when I saw this new fellow for NDSU. (Mertens was more mobile.)

This says you have a QB that started for VA Tech at Notre Dame. That begs the question ... why not him?
https://gobison.com/sports/football/roster/quincy-patterson/14475

The scuttlebutt on Mertens, as well as the video and stats from HS, was that he was mobile but that never really played out at NDSU, likely because Bohl had no back up plan for him getting injured. The reason that I compare Zeb with him is that they both got rattled with game stress. NM just had more practice being totally out of his element. He DID throw a decent ball when not pressured at all.

Stauss, at least in my memory, was actually a pretty good QB but just got beat out by a legend. That year is a little foggy for me so I might not have that right.

[56BISON73]

The scuttlebutt on Mertens, as well as the video and stats from HS, was that he was mobile but that never really played out at NDSU, likely because Bohl had no back up plan for him getting injured. The reason that I compare Zeb with him is that they both got rattled with game stress. NM just had more practice being totally out of his element. He DID throw a decent ball when not pressured at all.

Stauss, at least in my memory, was actually a pretty good QB but just got beat out by a legend. That year is a little foggy for me so I might not have that right.

Mertens wasnt allowed to be the QB he was as stated in your post. It was a terrible position for him to be in. But he toughed it out.

[OrygunBison]

Mertens wasnt allowed to be the QB he was as stated in your post. It was a terrible position for him to be in. But he toughed it out.

Yeah, I've actually always felt bad about him. Perhaps if they would have let him run more, he would have been in his element and not so damn rattled for 60 minutes every Saturday.

Bohl learned an incredibly valuable lesson about QB recruiting those 2 years. I don't think the situation we have now is even remotely the same thing. It is more akin to what major FBS teams deal with when their star players leave early and they need to backfill out of schedule. In theory, we're in very good company with our problem. We just haven't figured out how to solve it yet.

[oldmantutters]

Mertens was a damn good guy. Had a few classes with him and he was super humble and nice.

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[X-Factor]

The scuttlebutt on Mertens, as well as the video and stats from HS, was that he was mobile but that never really played out at NDSU, likely because Bohl had no back up plan for him getting injured. The reason that I compare Zeb with him is that they both got rattled with game stress. NM just had more practice being totally out of his element. He DID throw a decent ball when not pressured at all.

Stauss, at least in my memory, was actually a pretty good QB but just got beat out by a legend. That year is a little foggy for me so I might not have that right.

Kind of. He had a good first year (03). But he was benched in '04 for throwing more INTs that went in the opponents endzone than I could ever remember. Sideline passes like Zeb threw on Saturday still give me chills from that first half of '04 season before Walker righted the ship.

[gabisonfan]

Zeb can probably execute plays with time, but he isn't a playmaker. Unless there are more opportunities for quick strikes it appears the game is to fast for him to be successful. QB's today need to be quick in adapting to a play not going as drawn up. Hopefully, they are working to change the plan or the player.

[El_Chapo]

this MO FO put over 300 yards vs Oklahoma.

the fact that Entz/Roehl wont put him in the shotgun and throw 30 times is BEYOND ME

you as coaches KNEW WHAT YOU HAD for 2+ years with Zeb.

either put up or shut up

[ByeSonBusiness]

this MO FO put over 300 yards vs Oklahoma.

the fact that Entz/Roehl wont put him in the shotgun and throw 30 times is BEYOND ME

you as coaches KNEW WHAT YOU HAD for 2+ years with Zeb.

either put up or shut up

Lol a lot of guys can put up 300 on Oklahoma.

We will see what he does from here on out though.

[PlrbrBison]

this MO FO put over 300 yards vs Oklahoma.

the fact that Entz/Roehl wont put him in the shotgun and throw 30 times is BEYOND ME

you as coaches KNEW WHAT YOU HAD for 2+ years with Zeb.

either put up or shut up

You know what - not stereotypical Bison footnumball, but we've got what we've got and this looks like the way to use our quarterback if he's gonna be our quarterback. Use our little RBs as receivers so Watson doesn't have to be the target.

[Professor Chaos]

this MO FO put over 300 yards vs Oklahoma.

the fact that Entz/Roehl wont put him in the shotgun and throw 30 times is BEYOND ME

you as coaches KNEW WHAT YOU HAD for 2+ years with Zeb.

either put up or shut up
So after watching Zeb throw the ball these last 2 games your solution is to throw more???

Either Zeb regressed since his time at Iowa St or Oklahoma had an all-time awful defense that year. I see poor footwork and slowness both mentally and physically with very little pocket awareness. Hedberg/Roehl need to break him down and build him back up and that's tough to do with a 5th year senior nor is it something you should have to do with a 5th year senior.

The best thing they can do for him is figure out how to operate a traditional power run game again.... they've been spoiled by having QBs who are supremely gifted athletically and they need to figure out how to run the ball again without one. It's not impossible. They did it during the Walker years and they did it to an extent during the Jensen years as well.

[EC8CH]

So after watching Zeb throw the ball these last 2 games your solution is to throw more???

Either Zeb regressed since his time at Iowa St or Oklahoma had an all-time awful defense that year. I see poor footwork and slowness both mentally and physically with very little pocket awareness. Hedberg/Roehl need to break him down and build him back up and that's tough to do with a 5th year senior nor is it something you should have to do with a 5th year senior.

The best thing they can do for him is figure out how to operate a traditional power run game again.... they've been spoiled by having QBs who are supremely gifted athletically and they need to figure out how to run the ball again without one. It's not impossible. They did it during the Walker years and they did it to an extent during the Jensen years as well.

Soon as we cross the 50... Hail mary every time!!!!!!

[ThunderDan]

this MO FO put over 300 yards vs Oklahoma.

the fact that Entz/Roehl wont put him in the shotgun and throw 30 times is BEYOND ME

you as coaches KNEW WHAT YOU HAD for 2+ years with Zeb.

either put up or shut up

Big 12 defense...enough said.
Swiss Cheese going through a grater defines Big 12 defense pretty well.

[GRAFTONBISON]

Soon as we cross the 50... Hail mary every time!!!!!!

Why wait till we cross the 50?

[EC8CH]

Why wait till we cross the 50?

No NFL arm on the team.

[GRAFTONBISON]

No NFL arm on the team.

Completed hail mary from our own 25 to the opponent’s 30 isn’t better then what we saw on Saturday?

[EC8CH]

Completed hail mary from our own 25 to the opponent’s 30 isn’t better then what we saw on Saturday?

Ahhhhhh you're suggesting we "chuck the pigskin"!

4 verts all day er day!

[ByeSonBusiness]

Ahhhhhh you're suggesting we "chuck the pigskin"!

4 verts all day er day!

Anyone who has played NCAA knows 4 verts is most effective when you have a fairly mobile QB. ;)

[GRAFTONBISON]

Ahhhhhh you're suggesting we "chuck the pigskin"!

4 verts all day er day!

Now you’re catching on

[Wally]

Steven Threet have any eligibility left?

[The_Sicatoka]

Soon as we cross the 50... Hail mary every time!!!!!!

To my eye he struggled to get it to the end zone from the +40 on that end of first half play.
Body motion technique (step-throw)? Arm strength? Wrong ball arc? Something didn't look right.

Jensen/Wentz/Stick/Lance (and probably Stauss and Mertens) would've flicked a wrist and put it there.

[The_Sicatoka]

He played in the fall so isn't eligible to play this spring.

He played for VA Tech fall 2020 so he's not eligible now. Got it. (I didn't realize he'd transferred at semester time.)

Thank you.

[heckler]

To my eye he struggled to get it to the end zone from the +40 on that end of first half play.
Body motion technique (step-throw)? Arm strength? Wrong ball arc? Something didn't look right.

Jensen/Wentz/Stick/Lance (and probably Stauss and Mertens) would've flicked a wrist and put it there.

Mertens would have thrown a pick.

[Schwarz04]

Zeb has less arm strength and speed than Jensen, but he’s who he’s most comparable to of our recent QBs. I think we need to get back to more of the type of offense play book we used with Jensen.

That’s easier said than done though being our running game is now also much weaker.

Not a great situation right now. If we could figure out a run game we may be okay...

[NDSU1980]

Mertens would have thrown a pick.

Or fumbled it, or got sacked.

[scottietohottie]

Zeb has less arm strength and speed than Jensen, but he’s who he’s most comparable to of our recent QBs. I think we need to get back to more of the type of offense play book we used with Jensen.

That’s easier said than done though being our running game is now also much weaker.

Not a great situation right now. If we could figure out a run game we may be okay...

I'm pretty sure if Zeb put on Brock's jock he could go parasailing.

[thebigund]

I'm pretty sure if Zeb put on Brock's jock he could go parasailing.

LMAO!!!! Fucking right. How dare anyone compare that chubby twat to Brock. GTFOH

[MankatoBison]

I demand that Zeb throw for 900 yds against Missouri state or we march on Scheels with torches and pitchforks. This one loss is unacceptable - heads must roll.

#SpeakTruthToPower

#DynastyDiesInDarkness

[DePereBisonFan]

I think the fact that Zeb had such a great game against Oklahoma while at ISU says more about the Big XII and how close NDSU is (I mean, in general, not last game) to the top teams in college football, than it said about his skills.

[Grizzled]

I think the fact that Zeb had such a great game against Oklahoma while at ISU says more about the Big XII and how close NDSU is (I mean, in general, not last game) to the top teams in college football, than it said about his skills.

How exactly?

[yopaulie]

LMAO!!!! Fucking right. How dare anyone compare that chubby twat to Brock. GTFOH

Talk about classic lame ass keyboard warrior crap. You should be embarrassed, even though I disagree with the comparison too.

[El_Chapo]

Talk about classic lame ass keyboard warrior crap. You should be embarrassed, even though I disagree with the comparison too.

He's a loser he knows it

MARCH 6 2021. ZEB rises from the ashes

[WeAreThePride]

this MO FO put over 300 yards vs Oklahoma.

the fact that Entz/Roehl wont put him in the shotgun and throw 30 times is BEYOND ME

you as coaches KNEW WHAT YOU HAD for 2+ years with Zeb.

either put up or shut up

That sounds like a recipe for 150 yards of total offense and 3 picks.

[NodakGreg]

was that the Oline or the 180 lb running back up the middle 13 times

Remember, roehl seems to think same old same old power football regardless of the situation at hand. Half of this loss is on bad play calling. Half of it is on the oline and dline getting pushed around. Zeb is also slow at making a decision and not feeling the pressure...all around it goes. Its all about todays game if they decide to come ready to play or continue the same old...

[NodakGreg]

Developing NDSU own QB in their system > having a transfer QB

I think your right on the money here. Transfers are less then 50% to adapt to Bison football in short time. In saying that I sure hope Quincy from Virginia Tech doesn't fall into this but is ready to roll this Fall Football season. We have had a decade of STUD QBS, 3 in the NFL almost 4 as Brock did make it in the CFL for a short year or two..... so we have been sooo extremely fortunate...but because of this we are getting better recruits across the nation more and more so you need adjust your offense to your talent and right now, maybe we go spread pass, then work into run game to catch many teams ready to bring 8 guys to the line....? how about some wacky changes that teams haven't seen before? Then go back to a power run off tackle....
But growing Bison players as Freshman, Red Shirting them to learn the culture seems to be the key to success.
Ask YSU and James Madison how all those FBS transfers equate to National Titles year after year? It doesn't work.

Todays game against will tell us a lot....coaches and players....
Get revd up boys and smash em in Missoo.

[Kevin]

I want to see more of Cam Miller today.

Not throwing in the towel on Zeb but we need to know what we have as the season goes on.

[scottietohottie]

Be nice to see more then just 3 unoriginal plays and a punt.

[23Bison]

First down - tiny RB tip toes up to the line of scrimmage for no gain. 2nd and 10 - Zeb throws a pass into the stands. 3rd and 10 they run a QB draw with Zeb for loss of 3. Punt for 44 yds. That pretty much summed up our day last weekend.

[OrygunBison]

Not throwing in the towel on Zeb...

Why not? Name any sort of highlight that gives you hope about his potential. I can't. Hell, that highlight video of the Oklahoma game isn't really that impressive. It was more about his receivers being awesome and it was a losing effort. We all know that passing stats can be padded when a team is behind and the defense is playing prevent.

[THEsocalledfan]

How bad was the pick for those of us not able to see it?

[Honeybooboo]

How bad was the pick for those of us not able to see it?

Bad........

[El_Chapo]

Good pass to TE in end zone. lets hope that springs his confidence

[Twincitybizon]

How bad was the pick for those of us not able to see it?

Lots of contact from the db

[heffray]

How bad was the pick for those of us not able to see it?

Actually I thought it looked like the receiver wasn’t even looking for the ball...

[OrygunBison]

Good pass to TE in end zone. lets hope that springs his confidence

So wide open that my wife could have thrown it to him.

[El_Chapo]

ZEB 4-4 in a row. SHUT UP

[El_Chapo]

5 - 8 114 yards 2 TD in 1 HALF!!

hell ya

Watson needs some balls, give him a bubble screen or something

[heffray]

5 - 8 114 yards 2 TD in 1 HALF!!

hell ya

Watson needs some balls, give him a bubble screen or something

81 of those yards on 1 throw.

[OrygunBison]

5 - 8 114 yards 2 TD in 1 HALF!!

hell ya

Watson needs some balls, give him a bubble screen or something

Watson's gift is speed. Unfortunately, he's not a great route runner.

[OrygunBison]

81 of those yards on 1 throw.

Admittedly, a very good throw.

[El_Chapo]

27-50 337 3 tds thats a good season so far

[Twincitybizon]

Watson's gift is speed. Unfortunately, he's not a great route runner.

And had bricks for hands

[oldmantutters]

27-50 337 3 tds thats a good season so farAgainst the teams that we've played so far he should be averaging 3 TDs a game

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[heffray]

27-50 337 3 tds thats a good season so far

But if you watch the tape, it’s not good.

[ThunderDan]

27-50 337 3 tds thats a good season so far

1 TD was a hail mary, and 1 TD was a wide open TE on a busted coverage.


You left out his INT (which is fine to have one, but in reality, there were a couple that should have been INTS that were dropped as well)

His completion percentage as of this moment is 56%...very medicore for a QB at any level.
He's probably missed at least 5-6 wide open receivers, and even more that may or may not have been his fault, we'll never know. (could have been receiver running wrong route, could have been Zeb thinking the wrong route.)

I'd say not a good season if you look at the whole picture.

[scottietohottie]

And those are just his right before halftime stats. Just wait until he figures out its a 4 quarter game!!!!

[Bison Dan]

Zeb has terrible vison, can't run, and plays scared.

[TAILG8R]

Zeb has terrible vison, can't run, and plays scared.

This is what I'm seeing too. He's not good. I wonder if we see Miler get more and more game reps and come playoffs(if we make it) he may get the call or come in early if Zeb struggles.

Bottom line Zeb is not good enough to win in the playoffs.

[SamsRams]

Zeb has terrible vison, can't run, and plays scared.

And oddly brings no energy to the offense. if we are stuck with him I wish we could see some fire from him

[El_Chapo]

Coach had to calm him down after that Braylon td they said on radio.
He's not a rah rah guy. But Stick wasn't either.

I'm more mad at coaches than zeb right now. We are still missing so many NDSU passing staples... the roll-outs to the flat. ZERO screens in 3 games, zero TE Seam routes, ZERO wheel routes how is that possible??

[Bison Dan]

If we're going to have a qb that hands off most of the time and only has easy passes we might as well play Cole.

[unbison]

Zeb has terrible vison, can't run, and plays scared.

Make him sound like Wentz this last season

[TAILG8R]

Coach had to calm him down after that Braylon td they said on radio.
He's not a rah rah guy. But Stick wasn't either.

I'm more mad at coaches than zeb right now. We are still missing so many NDSU passing staples... the roll-outs to the flat. ZERO screens in 3 games, zero TE Seam routes, ZERO wheel routes how is that possible??They tried a screen this week and it didn't materialize.

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[SamsRams]

Coach had to calm him down after that Braylon td they said on radio.
He's not a rah rah guy. But Stick wasn't either.

I'm more mad at coaches than zeb right now. We are still missing so many NDSU passing staples... the roll-outs to the flat. ZERO screens in 3 games, zero TE Seam routes, ZERO wheel routes how is that possible??

Only explanation is Zeb can’t make the throw

[EC8CH]

Only explanation is Zeb can’t make the throw

Until demonstrated otherwise, this is my default assumption.

[runtheoption]

If this is the case, severely limits the playbook. Better get creative with the run game and play-action.

[El_Chapo]

Only explanation is Zeb can’t make the throw

well then the coaches didn't see that in last 6 freakin months or more? ouch.

[BisonVifte]

Seems like a lot of Zeb's throws are behind the receiver.

[OrygunBison]

Seems like a lot of Zeb's throws are behind the receiver.

The big one was certainly nicely in stride but other than that, not so much. We missed at least two 3rd downs that I can think of because the receiver had to reach and the defense was able to catch up. It's a real bummer when I see it happen.

Carson had the same problem his junior year but the difference was that his overall play was greatly stretching the field so receivers could recover and still make a play most of the time. It is really hard for a receiver to do when the field is so compressed like it currently is.

[TAILG8R]

Out of all the bad play we've seen from Zeb why does it bother me the most to see him try to run on designed run plays. He tucks the ball, puts his head down and runs into the back of his blockers.

[El_Chapo]

Out of all the bad play we've seen from Zeb why does it bother me the most to see him try to run on designed run plays. He tucks the ball, puts his head down and runs into the back of his blockers.

Yes. ROEHL NEEDS TO RIP ALL OF THOSE OUT OF THE PLAYBOOK. And get a shotgun series mixed in FFS

[OrygunBison]

Just for fun, I went back to look at Zeb's Hudl highlights. Now I'm wondering, where did THAT kid go?!? He drops dime after dime, climbs the pocket, scrambles a bit when needed, and rolls out very nicely. I seriously think what he has going on now is all between the ears. The talent is clearly there but somewhere along the way, he lost his mojo. Has he ever been hurt badly? Was there bad QB coaching somewhere along the way? Man, looking at that film, there's a lot for a coach to work with.

Perhaps the coaches see this too and are just trying to build his confidence. I hope it works.

[ByeSonBusiness]

Just for fun, I went back to look at Zeb's Hudl highlights. Now I'm wondering, where did THAT kid go?!? He drops dime after dime, climbs the pocket, scrambles a bit when needed, and rolls out very nicely. I seriously think what he has going on now is all between the ears. The talent is clearly there but somewhere along the way, he lost his mojo. Has he ever been hurt badly? Was there bad QB coaching somewhere along the way? Man, looking at that film, there's a lot for a coach to work with.

Perhaps the coaches see this too and are just trying to build his confidence. I hope it works.

Happens to a ton of guys. I dont understand it, but its a regular occurrence.

[WeAreThePride]

Just for fun, I went back to look at Zeb's Hudl highlights. Now I'm wondering, where did THAT kid go?!? He drops dime after dime, climbs the pocket, scrambles a bit when needed, and rolls out very nicely. I seriously think what he has going on now is all between the ears. The talent is clearly there but somewhere along the way, he lost his mojo. Has he ever been hurt badly? Was there bad QB coaching somewhere along the way? Man, looking at that film, there's a lot for a coach to work with.

Perhaps the coaches see this too and are just trying to build his confidence. I hope it works.

Maybe coming from a P5 and ending up as the backup to a freshman got in his head.

[reformedUNDfan]

honestly I think he's had success in the 2 minute drill because that's literally what he is good at, hurry up quick reads.

[WeAreThePride]

honestly I think he's had success in the 2 minute drill because that's literally what he is good at, hurry up quick reads.

That's not sustainable for 60 minutes. We don't have the horses for it.

[AKBison]

That's not sustainable for 60 minutes. We don't have the horses for it.

I hope we pull a natty out of our ass somehow this year just so I can watch this thread completely melt down.

[SamsRams]

I hope we pull a natty out of our ass somehow this year just so I can watch this thread completely melt down.

When the defense carries this team to the trophy this thread will age well

[reformedUNDfan]

That's not sustainable for 60 minutes. We don't have the horses for it.

NDSU absolutely has the horses for it, maybe not the coaches or playbook

[TAILG8R]

If anything got into his head it's most likely the pressure to follow in the foot-steps of TWO record holders for most wins in the FCS, a #2 overall NFL draft choice, an expected early to mid first-round NFL draft choice and all 4 guys winning EIGHT national championships, they went 127–8 in the last 10 years and had a 39 game winning streak going. There is no writer in the world that would create such a scenario in a fictitious world. I'm not saying they're aren't others that could handle that pressure and play better but if anything is getting to him mentally my bet would be on the totally unprecedented pressure to just win baby.

[WeAreThePride]

If anything got into his head it's most likely the pressure to follow in the foot-steps of TWO record holders for most wins in the FCS, a #2 overall NFL draft choice, an expected early to mid first-round NFL draft choice and all 4 guys winning EIGHT national championships, they went 127–8 in the last 10 years and had a 39 game winning streak going. There is no writer in the world that would create such a scenario in a fictitious world. I'm not saying they're aren't others that could handle that pressure and play better but if anything is getting to him mentally my bet would be on the totally unprecedented pressure to just win baby.

We need someone hungry. Not someone desperate.

[heffray]

When the defense carries this team to the trophy this thread will age well

Shutting out Misery St isn’t all that is needed to convince me that our Defense is enough to win a championship.

[OrygunBison]

Shutting out Misery St isn’t all that is needed to convince me that our Defense is enough to win a championship.

Agree, however the defense is a lot closer to winning us difficult games than the offense is and it isn't even close. On defense, we have the talent but lack experience. That'll improve over time. On offense, we have a structural failure going on.

[SDbison]

Question regarding our QB and the current offense. Does Zeb lack the ability to audible and get us in the correct play? Just don't see it right now. There is no motion to check coverage, etc. Apparently he is not capable and we are stuck with the play called from the sideline. Does anybody remember all the pre-snap movement and motion we used to have? Why did this go away? We used to be capable of the same play out of multiple formations setup from pre-snap movement. All of that is gone now! Is Roehl dumbing the offense down for current players? Is Zeb just not able to process what he sees on the field and make decisons? This goes beyond his demonstrated inability to run and poor accuracy on throws. What is going on with this offense? The scary part is after 3 games the offense has not evolved much or improved.

[heffray]

Agree, however the defense is a lot closer to winning us difficult games than the offense is and it isn't even close. On defense, we have the talent but lack experience. That'll improve over time. On offense, we have a structural failure going on.

I don’t disagree with this either. I think we’re saying the same thing, actually.

[heffray]

Question regarding our QB and the current offense. Does Zeb lack the ability to audible and get us in the correct play? Just don't see it right now. There is no motion to check coverage, etc. Apparently he is not capable and we are stuck with the play called from the sideline. Does anybody remember all the pre-snap movement and motion we used to have? Why did this go away? We used to be capable of the same play out of multiple formations setup from pre-snap movement. All of that is gone now! Is Roehl dumbing the offense down for current players? Is Zeb just not able to process what he sees on the field and make decisons? This goes beyond his demonstrated inability to run and poor accuracy on throws. What is going on with this offense? The scary part is after 3 games the offense has not evolved much or improved.

I noticed this as well and commented somewhere. No motion, no audibles... I don’t know why but I don’t think we have any reason to be optimistic that it’s just everyone “getting the feel” of our offense.

[TAILG8R]

I noticed this as well and commented somewhere. No motion, no audibles... I don’t know why but I don’t think we have any reason to be optimistic that it’s just everyone “getting the feel” of our offense.I don't think it's just everyone getting a feel for the offense either. The only way we get better this year is through a better run game. I just don't think Zeb is going to progress. Not in a meaningful way anyway.

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[THEsocalledfan]

Time to close this thread.

[SamsRams]

Time to close this thread.

No this thread lives forever I hope. It’s the Zeb era begins thread that is done

[El_Chapo]

No this thread lives forever I hope. It’s the Zeb era begins thread that is done

once again F IOWA STATE

but if NDSU punches it in at 1. for 21-0. Zeb is the MAN. funny game

[Professor Chaos]

Time to close this thread.
Agreed, I think it's a pretty safe bet that Zeb's shortcomings had nothing to do with lack of effort. Like I said in the other thread I think he's a good enough player but he was just the wrong guy at the wrong time for this team. I hope he keeps his head held high and, based on the testimonials from his teammates and the coaching staff, I think he will. I'm guessing he'll be first in line to support Cam going forward and we all should salute him for that because that's a damn hard thing for any competitor to do.

[Twincitybizon]

Agreed, I think it's a pretty safe bet that Zeb's shortcomings had nothing to do with lack of effort. Like I said in the other thread I think he's a good enough player but he was just the wrong guy at the wrong time for this team. I hope he keeps his head held high and, based on the testimonials from his teammates and the coaching staff, I think he will. I'm guessing he'll be first in line to support Cam going forward and we all should salute him for that because that's a damn hard thing for any competitor to do.

Agreed!! This is definitely not a guy to trash here. Stronger o line and rb's. Might have been very different. Seems a really good guy who gave it his best shot.

[SamsRams]

Agreed!! This is definitely not a guy to trash here. Stronger o line and rb's. Might have been very different. Seems a really good guy who gave it his best shot.


I stick by my original statement that I am a fan of Zeb.

I just don’t want him to be the starting QB for this team

[Alsen]

Again.....covid ain't over yet because of the evil overlords still withholding the therapeutics until they squeeze the whole world dry with their vaccines that all the guys in the deep state and the CDC and FDA and National institute of health are hugely invested in. Twenty years ago it was as illegal as hell for people like this to invest in pharmaceuticals of any kind, but....well, some of you get it.

Sorry about the rant, anyway, our guys aren't on anything close to a regular practice schedule. It's a half new offense and a mostly new OL and a new QB and our guys clearly are running around without knowing where the other guy is going. Don't you see Zeb completely astonished several times a game by where his receivers end up running their routes.

The restrictions are killing us.

[ByeSonBusiness]

Again.....covid ain't over yet because of the evil overlords still withholding the therapeutics until they squeeze the whole world dry with their vaccines that all the guys in the deep state and the CDC and FDA and National institute of health are hugely invested in. Twenty years ago it was as illegal as hell for people like this to invest in pharmaceuticals of any kind, but....well, some of you get it.

Sorry about the rant, anyway, our guys aren't on anything close to a regular practice schedule. It's a half new offense and a mostly new OL and a new QB and our guys clearly are running around without knowing where the other guy is going. Don't you see Zeb completely astonished several times a game by where his receivers end up running their routes.

The restrictions are killing us.

Blaming it on inadequate practice and restrictions is dumb. Every other team deals with the same or worse restrictions.

Ndsu looks less impressive than in years past, the covid shit doesn't help, but its not the reason the team has not been good so far this spring.

[ByeSonBusiness]

once again F IOWA STATE

but if NDSU punches it in at 1. for 21-0. Zeb is the MAN. funny game

Why are we blaming Iowa St? Because Brock Purdy is a very good football player who chose Iowa State over some more prominent programs?

[WeAreThePride]

once again F IOWA STATE

but if NDSU punches it in at 1. for 21-0. Zeb is the MAN. funny game

He would also be the MAN if he were better at throwing footballs to guys in green, and less good at throwing them to the guys in white.

[tjamz]

once again F IOWA STATE

but if NDSU punches it in at 1. for 21-0. Zeb is the MAN. funny gameHe is 38 of 70 with 4 interceptions vs 3 TD"s

He scared me EVERY time he dropped back to pass as he seemed to lack confidence and/or didn't understand the playbook. His ability to run for positive yardage was virtually zero it seemed. That's ok. It works for some teams, but the worst running QB we had during this run was.... Carson maybe?

Cam was far from perfect, but he seemed to have better control of his offense and looked better running and passing than Zeb.

I think there's still a spot on this team for Zeb where he can contribute, unfortunately it's more as a mentor than a starter. He'll probably make for an excellent coach somewhere, someday.

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[OrygunBison]

Zeb actually threw several very, very nice balls yesterday. It actually had me believing for a bit that he might have turned a corner.

[WeAreThePride]

Zeb actually threw several very, very nice balls yesterday. It actually had me believing for a bit that he might have turned a corner.

I think you meant "Thrown to" a corner.

[EC8CH]

Zeb actually threw several very, very nice balls yesterday. It actually had me believing for a bit that he might have turned a corner.

Me too, just not as much as Miller though. Maybe Zeb has a bigger arm or shows some other superior traits in practice, but it didn't show on the field enough last Sat to make him appear to be the better option.

[heffray]

Zeb actually threw several very, very nice balls yesterday. It actually had me believing for a bit that he might have turned a corner.

I thought this, too. The underthrow to Watson in the 3rd was the last straw for me.

[EC8CH]

I thought this, too. The underthrow to Watson in the 3rd was the last straw for me.

The dual QB business just isn't going to work. If Zeb is that much of a liability as a run threat, then it just isn't going to work. That's just my opinion. Even if he'd proven that he is an efficient passer, which he hasn't, the disruption to the rest of the offense that requires a separate QB as a run threat is just too much.

[heffray]

The dual QB business just isn't going to work. If Zeb is that much of a liability as a run threat, then it just isn't going to work. That's just my opinion. Even if he'd proven that he is an efficient passer, which he hasn't, the disruption to the rest of the offense that requires a separate QB as a run threat is just too much.

Totally agree with this. I cannot remember an offense that worked well with switching off...

[noryan34]

The dual QB business just isn't going to work. If Zeb is that much of a liability as a run threat, then it just isn't going to work. That's just my opinion. Even if he'd proven that he is an efficient passer, which he hasn't, the disruption to the rest of the offense that requires a separate QB as a run threat is just too much.


Totally agree with this. I cannot remember an offense that worked well with switching off...

Can only think of 1

2006 Florida Gators, 2 QBs, one for running and one for passing. National Champs that year too I think

[heffray]

Can only think of 1

2006 Florida Gators, 2 QBs, one for running and one for passing. National Champs that year too I think

Thanks, that was Tebow and I can’t remember the other guys name, I can picture him, though.

[gotts]

Thanks, that was Tebow and I can’t remember the other guys name, I can picture him, though.

Chris Leak?

[thebigund]

Zeb has to play, he torches Oklahoma. Imagine what he might do to our secondary.

[Professor Chaos]

Zeb has to play, he torches Oklahoma. Imagine what he might do to our secondary.
If only UND had hired #ChuckThePigskin guy and NDSU would've fired Entz and Roehl and replaced them with El Chapo this week... this game would be a lock for an ABC/NBC national simulcast prime time on Saturday night.

[thebigund]

If only UND had hired #ChuckThePigskin guy and NDSU would've fired Entz and Roehl and replaced them with El Chapo this week... this game would be a lock for an ABC/NBC national simulcast prime time on Saturday night.

Chuck the pigskin guy is a fucking legend. He should be in the UND Hall Of Fame.

[56BISON73]

Zeb has to play, he torches Oklahoma. Imagine what he might do to our secondary.

If we ever play Oklahoma we will bring him in.

[mtoutfitter]

I thought this, too. The underthrow to Watson in the 3rd was the last straw for me.

Don't mean to rundown a Bison player but Noland had plenty of time on this ball....I don't care what Lakes says....he throws it 5 yds further and it's a TD.

[TAILG8R]

Don't mean to rundown a Bison player but Noland had plenty of time on this ball....I don't care what Lakes says....he throws it 5 yds further and it's a TD.

And the one longer pass he did complete to Watson earlier in the game was under thrown and if he would have led Watson that could have been a TD. After hearing all fall how strong of an arm Zeb had I was surprised to see him throw under thrown rainbow balls downfield. Throwing hard is not the same as having a strong arm.

Edit: Should be cued up on this link https://youtu.be/JvbDN-fDmXY?t=127 If not the play is at the 2:06 mark. Watson has to slow down and stutter step a bit to catch that ball. Not a bad throw and still a big play but a ball 2-3 yards more downfield and that's a TD imo.

[heffray]

Don't mean to rundown a Bison player but Noland had plenty of time on this ball....I don't care what Lakes says....he throws it 5 yds further and it's a TD.

Yep totally agree.

[TAILG8R]

So Jeff keeps saying, don't be surprised if Zeb is the starter and that Zeb has earned it with how valuable he's been behind the scenes the last two years. I assume some of that is trying to toe the party line but IF there is any chance Zeb is getting the nod simply because "he's earned it" I say WTF??? He may have earned the chance and he got that. He has now earned the chance to sit on the bench and watch someone else run this offense they way it's supposed to be done. I'm starting to get a sinking feeling that Entz will play both QBs and when that's the case it means you have no QB.

[Bison 4 Life]

So Jeff keeps saying, don't be surprised if Zeb is the starter and that Zeb has earned it with how valuable he's been behind the scenes the last two years. I assume some of that is trying to toe the party line but IF there is any chance Zeb is getting the nod simply because "he's earned it" I saw WTF??? He may have earned the chance and he got that. He has now earned the chance to sit on the bench and watch someone else run this offense they way it's supposed to be done. I'm starting to get a sinking feeling that Entz will play both QBs and when that's the case it means you have no QB.

I just came here to say the same thing. I don't know if he's seeing what we're seeing. He's had a little good and a lot bad.

[Professor Chaos]

Can't start Zeb Noland this week. Can't do it. Won't do it.

/Mike Singletary voice

[EC8CH]

Can't start Zeb Noland this week. Can't do it. Won't do it.

/Mike Singletary voice

Does Entz even read Bisonville? The decision has been made!

[heffray]

How do you pull your starter near the end of the 3rd quarter after an awful pic and all the momentum going the other way, put your true freshman in and he leads you to victory, and then you NOT start him the next week?!

[bajadanny]

How do you pull your starter near the end of the 3rd quarter after an awful pic and all the momentum going the other way, put your true freshman in and he leads you to victory, and then you NOT start him the next week?!

Yeah no kidding the young guy has to start, or entz is............

[NDSU1980]

Can't start Zeb Noland this week. Can't do it. Won't do it.

/Mike Singletary voice

I'd bet that Enz is just playing with UN_, make them prepare for both. It better be Miller

[gabisonfan]

In fairness to Zeb he didn't play after 2018. He most likely peaked before then. Coaches need to recognize bringing in transfers is risky business unless they can win the job. Otherwise they will turn away recruits and send guys in the bullpen to the portal.

[abc123]

I'd bet that Enz is just playing with UN_, make them prepare for both. It better be Miller

What exactly is it that they need to do special to prepare for Noland? Let the recievers run 5 yards past them and wait for the underthrown ball? I'm not even trying to be mean, I'm actually serious. Its crazy to see an NDSU QB struggle like he has.
UND fans will push for a lifetime contract for Entz if he starts Noland this week.

[THEsocalledfan]

So, can anyone explain why Cam was pulled after a bogus holding call? Or never got a second shot at a drive?

Then my next question just how good is Zeb in practice and just how bad must Cam look? I just can't wrap my mind around this.....

[SDbison]

So, can anyone explain why Cam was pulled after a bogus holding call? Or never got a second shot at a drive?

Then my next question just how good is Zeb in practice and just how bad must Cam look? I just can't wrap my mind around this..... Nobody can.......but apparently the homer sports guys like Kolpack, Izzo, etc. don't have the balls to ask the questions and ask Entz again if the answer isn't good enough.

[bajadanny]

Nobody can.......but apparently the homer sports guys like Kolpack, Izzo, etc. don't have the balls to ask the questions and ask Entz again if the answer isn't good enough.

The entire local media is way to chummy to ask any degree of uncomfortable questions, fairly obvious to us fans, but 1 loss so go win next week then attack the journey to Frisco once again

[NDSUstudent]

The entire local media is way to chummy to ask any degree of uncomfortable questions, fairly obvious to us fans, but 1 loss so go win next week then attack the journey to Frisco once again

McFeely will ask them, that is about all he is good for.

[THEsocalledfan]

Can we all agree on this? BTW did Entz admit his blunder?

[El_Chapo]

he should've been given that last drive when it was 17-17. thats when zeb thrives, end of games & halves.

[OrygunBison]

he should've been given that last drive when it was 17-17. thats when zeb thrives, end of games & halves.

Good lord. I get dumber the more of your posts that I read.

[El_Chapo]

Good lord. I get dumber the more of your posts that I read.

huh. zeb was money at end of halfs

[BISONBRI53]

Not so fast my friend... Who says he's over with? It wouldn't shock me one bit that Zeb is the starter Saturday vs. EWU...

[El_Chapo]

Not so fast my friend... Who says he's over with? It wouldn't shock me one bit that Zeb is the starter Saturday vs. EWU...

ohhhh everyone tar and feather BRI just like you do me with every Zeb post. ban, moderation!! :)

I can see it happening based on the end of the sdsu game, but they might gameplan with Cam with shorter passes and quicker west coast offense feel....

and there's no use for all of you fans to trash and dump on ZEB when .... even if Cam starts, if Cam gets hurt or struggles, we will need ZEB.

[BISONBRI53]

ohhhh everyone tar and feather BRI just like you do me with every Zeb post. ban, moderation!! :)

I can see it happening based on the end of the sdsu game, but they might gameplan with Cam with shorter passes and quicker west coast offense feel....

and there's no use for all of you fans to trash and dump on ZEB when .... even if Cam starts, if Cam gets hurt or struggles, we will need ZEB.

Im not tryin to stick up for Zeb one bit.... I just think our coaching staff has shown time and time again that Zeb is their guy...

[mtoutfitter]

On the Insiders Phil Hansen just said....A LOT of potential with Cam Miller.

[bison22]

One thing I love about Zeb however is the fact that he is an amazing teammate. You could see him on the sidelines all game talking to Cam and helping him out every step of the way. He could have sulked and pouted about being pulled, but he was there helping out the team in every way he could.

No knock on Zeb at all, he just doesn't fit our offense as well as Cam does.

[mtoutfitter]

One thing I love about Zeb however is the fact that he is an amazing teammate. You could see him on the sidelines all game talking to Cam and helping him out every step of the way. He could have sulked and pouted about being pulled, but he was there helping out the team in every way he could.

No knock on Zeb at all, he just doesn't fit our offense as well as Cam does.

Yep, kudos to Zeb!

[TransAmBison]

One thing I love about Zeb however is the fact that he is an amazing teammate. You could see him on the sidelines all game talking to Cam and helping him out every step of the way. He could have sulked and pouted about being pulled, but he was there helping out the team in every way he could.

No knock on Zeb at all, he just doesn't fit our offense as well as Cam does.Absolutely. Zeb is a quality guy. I wish him nothing but the best.

[El_Chapo]

We will need every player on this roster to win this title! Lets go!!

[MankatoBison]

Zeb is a BIG TIME Culture fit. Seriously, its pretty amazing how he has been able to keep his head held high, still being a CAPTAIN for his teamates, even when they throw in Cam etc. Proud to have a guy with his character on our team.

[EC8CH]

Nothing but respect for him.

[Bison 4 Life]

Zeb's a good kid. I think Bisonville's main problem is Entz and Lakes shoving him down our throats.

[HerdBot]

he should've been given that last drive when it was 17-17. thats when zeb thrives, end of games & halves.


Good lord. I get dumber the more of your posts that I read.

Lakes is right. Zeb is a rock star in the 2 minute drill. His results prove it. Cam looked like a Freshman running it

[123Gobison]

This is not Zeb fault. We have a terrible , if not worst OC in the history of Bison football. Dont get me wrong, Tyler Roehl is a great player but terrible coach. We were lucky that Trey was a great QB this just covered a lot of Tyler Roehl weakness last year. Mediocre QB + Tyler Roehl = Disaster. We wont win unless the HC demotes Tyler Roehl and finds a new OC who is good at calling passing plays. Or else this may be a Tyler Roehl training programming.

[Snowgoose]

While I have questioned some of Roehl's play calls this spring it is hard to say if he is the worst as this spring has sucked for lots of reasons and the team is clearly missing some great leaders that would have happened with Trey and Dillon had we played in the fall. I think the bigger issue was Entz and Roehl not starting Cam. Every time Zeb was in he was throwing the ball all over the joint and to the other team (I wish nothing but the best for Zeb as well as seems like a great kid just being honest). Hard to call some of our pass plays with such inconsistency. Although Roehl and the previous OC's have not utilized the RB out of the backfield as much as we should have when we have had young QBs. True west coast offenses used the RB alot, but we are a hybrid that uses the spread too much in my opinion.

[MAKBison]

This is not Zeb fault. We have a terrible , if not worst OC in the history of Bison football. Dont get me wrong, Tyler Roehl is a great player but terrible coach. We were lucky that Trey was a great QB this just covered a lot of Tyler Roehl weakness last year. Mediocre QB + Tyler Roehl = Disaster. We wont win unless the HC demotes Tyler Roehl and finds a new OC who is good at calling passing plays. Or else this may be a Tyler Roehl training programming.

so are you saying the high throws, short arm passes, and getting the ball out late are on the coaches? CMON...I was rooting for him, but he was pretty inconsistent.

[CyPanth]

ohhhh everyone tar and feather BRI just like you do me with every Zeb post. ban, moderation!! :)

I can see it happening based on the end of the sdsu game, but they might gameplan with Cam with shorter passes and quicker west coast offense feel....

and there's no use for all of you fans to trash and dump on ZEB when .... even if Cam starts, if Cam gets hurt or struggles, we will need ZEB.


Fun watching Lakes digging in to support the Iowa State guy!

P.S. Take the fastest route to being an FBS fan. Cheer for the Iowa State!

[Jay]

https://twitter.com/nolandtravis/status/1385981938142437378?s=21

[Kevin]

https://twitter.com/nolandtravis/status/1385981938142437378?s=21

I guess that answers that.

[El_Chapo]

https://twitter.com/nolandtravis/status/1385981938142437378?s=21

Yea Zeb isn't playing this fall that wasnt a secret Im glad his father is coming up. next weeks trip from Georgia to Texas , then Georgia to Virginia then back to Texas!!

[EC8CH]

I guess that answers that.

Odd way to break the news.

[Kevin]

Yea Zeb isn't playing this fall that wasnt a secret Im glad his father is coming up. next weeks trip from Georgia to Texas , then Georgia to Virginia then back to Texas!!

I’m surprised you learned the not secret in spite of the restraining order(s).

[El_Chapo]

I’m surprised you learned the not secret in spite of the restraining order(s).

yea , he told people while pheasant hunting with them last fall

[oldmantutters]

Doesn't seem like he is confident in the team winning? There is still the possibility of hosting another playoff game

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[THEsocalledfan]

Doesn't seem like he is confident in the team winning? There is still the possibility of hosting another playoff game

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I wouldn't be....... (thus why I took EWU at +7....)

[oldmantutters]

I wouldn't be....... (thus why I took EWU at +7....)If I were a gambler I'd have done the same

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[El_Chapo]

Doesn't seem like he is confident in the team winning? There is still the possibility of hosting another playoff game

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LAST HOME GAME.... if we win its at Sam/JMU

[oldmantutters]

LAST HOME GAME.... if we win its at Sam/JMUIt was posted before the results of the other games

NUMB NUTS.

A Monmouth win or a JMU loss before the semis

could have meant another HOME GAME.



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[NDSU]

Wishing him well as he begins his coaching career (P5) once the spring season wraps up.

[El_Chapo]

It was posted before the results of the other games

NUMB NUTS.

A Monmouth win or a JMU loss before the semis

could have meant another HOME GAME.



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well hes smart. he knows Sam & JMU are winning. duh