NDSU to the NFL

[1st&TennBison]

Why not, all the FBS wannabee's keep bringing up the FBS for growth reasons. Lets just jump straight to the NFL. Just think of it, new retractable roof stadium, massive TV money. We would hold bragging rights over the Gophers. Why not, we already have 1st round QB's. Lets just make the move. We call Roger tomorrow at the front office and tell him we want in, I am sure they would welcome us with open arms, except for maybe the Vikings, they don't want us to show them up.

[WeAreThePride]

We're not quite there yet. All we need is 4 corporate sponsors, one for each corner of the stadium, and we'll be ready to make the jump.

[No_Skill]

See this ( )? World's smallest violin.

[MankatoBison]

Why not, all the FBS wannabee's keep bringing up the FBS for growth reasons. Lets just jump straight to the NFL. Just think of it, new retractable roof stadium, massive TV money. We would hold bragging rights over the Gophers. Why not, we already have 1st round QB's. Lets just make the move. We call Roger tomorrow at the front office and tell him we want in, I am sure they would welcome us with open arms, except for maybe the Vikings, they don't want us to show them up.

This is, unironically, what Brian Maclaughlin thinks about JMU. His honest to God actual opinion about the quality of the JMU football program

[SDbison]

Why not, all the FBS wannabee's keep bringing up the FBS for growth reasons. Lets just jump straight to the NFL. Just think of it, new retractable roof stadium, massive TV money. We would hold bragging rights over the Gophers. Why not, we already have 1st round QB's. Lets just make the move. We call Roger tomorrow at the front office and tell him we want in, I am sure they would welcome us with open arms, except for maybe the Vikings, they don't want us to show them up. Seriously? If Bisonville had real moderators they would delete this thread immediately.
What a stupid way to make your point.

[Bison53]

If we got a NFL team then Minnesota would want one!

[mnriverbison]

As an alternative option, since we "play for championships" and are apparently not bored/embarrassed for beating up on clearly undermanned opposition perhaps we should compete at the High School level and never lose again?

[23Bison]

As an alternative option, since we "play for championships" and are apparently not bored/embarrassed for beating up on clearly undermanned opposition perhaps we should compete at the High School level and never lose again?

Feels like we are kind of doing that now!

[1st&TennBison]

This thread was started not to give an impression that I am against a move to the FBS. I would embrace it if we did as I am sure the people in charge would think things through. My concern is proven by what happened to Coastal Carolina this year, they went undefeated (regular season), and at best were offered a low middle of the pack bowl game. It took Boise State 3-4 years of going 50-2 (or something like that) to gain even just a little recognition, and then they fell off the map pretty much. I have no interest in watching NDSU go Mountain West or some other similar division only to get invited to the Tampex Tampon bowl where we would need to pull a few strings........................................... ....just to get invited to that in a game against Liberty or App St for $350,000.

[Bisonator98]

This thread was started not to give an impression that I am against a move to the FBS. I would embrace it if we did as I am sure the people in charge would think things through. My concern is proven by what happened to Coastal Carolina this year, they went undefeated (regular season), and at best were offered a low middle of the pack bowl game. It took Boise State 3-4 years of going 50-2 (or something like that) to gain even just a little recognition, and then they fell off the map pretty much. I have no interest in watching NDSU go Mountain West or some other similar division only to get invited to the Tampex Tampon bowl where we would need to pull a few strings........................................... ....just to get invited to that in a game against Liberty or App St for $350,000.

So you want to jump to FBS and get a New Years bowl game invite right away? Not realistic, programs have to prove themselves. There will be struggles along the way just like our 2008-9 years in FCS but the rewards would be worth it if you can get to dominating the MWC like we are FCS right now. The opportunities would open up eventually. Rome wasn't built in a day.

[heffray]

This thread was started not to give an impression that I am against a move to the FBS. I would embrace it if we did as I am sure the people in charge would think things through. My concern is proven by what happened to Coastal Carolina this year, they went undefeated (regular season), and at best were offered a low middle of the pack bowl game. It took Boise State 3-4 years of going 50-2 (or something like that) to gain even just a little recognition, and then they fell off the map pretty much. I have no interest in watching NDSU go Mountain West or some other similar division only to get invited to the Tampex Tampon bowl where we would need to pull a few strings........................................... ....just to get invited to that in a game against Liberty or App St for $350,000.

Yeah, i think we all got your point...

I think the counterpoint is— your opinion that we are more relevant winning championships in FCS than getting “meaningless Bowl invites” is potentially inaccurate, which means it’s really just your preference... and some people really don’t agree with your preference.

[mnriverbison]

Yeah, i think we all got your point...

I think the counterpoint is— your opinion that we are more relevant winning championships in FCS than getting “meaningless Bowl invites” is potentially inaccurate, which means it’s really just your preference... and some people really don’t agree with your preference.

Correct. This forum and this fanbase in general has always calculated that FCS 'ships are more valuable than the Cheez-It bowl or whatever. Which is a fair opinion to have. But we've also sort of over-rated the national prestige associated with FCS 'ships. The truth is that the game's TV ratings are entirely dependent upon which ESPN network happens to carry it and what other football games are on at that time. Which heavily implies that in the competition for national attention it is roughly on par with those lower bowl games we loathe so much.

There are two other things. Our continued dominance of FCS along with the departure of the few remaining peers have both diminished the prestige of FCS since 10 years ago.

Also those lower tier bowls are fun. I've lived in a few bowl regions and the people who come are happy and have a ball. YMMV of course, but to me playing Indiana or Nevada or whatever in Nashville, Mobile, AZ, FL, etc would be every bit as fun as playing an FCS ship in Frisco. Will it get old? Maybe for some. Has the current thing? Yes for some.

[NDSUSR]

NDSU is going to do what NDSU wants. Eventually NDSU will be FBS and honestly, I will really miss the playoffs and the Championship.

[mnriverbison]

NDSU is going to do what NDSU wants. Eventually NDSU will be FBS and honestly, I will really miss the playoffs and the Championship.

I think all of us will miss that, but even if NDSU never goes FBS that era of FCS is gone and we'll miss it.

[Bison Dan]

NDSU is going to do what NDSU wants. Eventually NDSU will be FBS and honestly, I will really miss the playoffs and the Championship.

Been there done that. My best memories and fun were on trips to FBS games. The look at the faces of their fans after beating them is priceless.

[southcliffbison]

Been there done that. My best memories and fun were on trips to FBS games. The look at the faces of their fans after beating them is priceless.

Sitting in the north endzone seats, watching the football sail thru the uprights at Kinnick Stadium...….yup, priceless.

[ByeSonBusiness]

So you want to jump to FBS and get a New Years bowl game invite right away? Not realistic, programs have to prove themselves. There will be struggles along the way just like our 2008-9 years in FCS but the rewards would be worth it if you can get to dominating the MWC like we are FCS right now. The opportunities would open up eventually. Rome wasn't built in a day.

I mean, if anyone could do it, it'd be NDSU. A decade of consistent domination at the lower level, with a bunch of FBS/P5 wins. Half of the "G5 teams suck" thing is they don't win much against P5 teams. So if you already got that stigma out of the way, beat another one or two solid P5's, and win your G5 conference as an undefeated or 1-loss type team, you got a shot at the NY6 spot.

[gavin2126]

Sitting in the north endzone seats, watching the football sail thru the uprights at Kinnick Stadium...….yup, priceless.

I remember being told by an Iowa fan while walking back to the high school after the game “Why do you guys have to be so nice?” He seemed genuinely disappointed he couldn’t be mad at Bison fans.


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[56BISON73]

I remember being told by an Iowa fan while walking back to the high school after the game “Why do you guys have to be so nice?” He seemed genuinely disappointed he couldn’t be mad at Bison fans.


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The night before the game were tailgating at the hotel. Some where during the night an Iowa fan approached me and said--" I just want to apologize for whats going to happen to you guys tomorrow." I replied--We just hope you guys show up" He looked surprised, laughed and as he turned to walk away I said--
"Good Luck tomorrow". He stopped and got this real funny look on his face and walked away. I always wondered what that guy thought after the game.

[mtoutfitter]

The night before the game were tailgating at the hotel. Some where during the night an Iowa fan approached me and said--" I just want to apologize for whats going to happen to you guys tomorrow." I replied--We just hope you guys show up" He looked surprised, laughed and as he turned to walk away I said--
"Good Luck tomorrow". He stopped and got this real funny look on his face and walked away. I always wondered what that guy thought after the game.

He thought....."I wonder if I can blow up that Hawkeye Express train with that PL fella on it" :D

[56BISON73]

He thought....."I wonder if I can blow up that Hawkeye Express train with that PL fella on it" :D

:howdy::D................

[heffray]

He thought....."I wonder if I can blow up that Hawkeye Express train with that PL fella on it" :D

He was probably thinking... “I missed my chance to eviscerate that guy with pointed remarks.”

[Bison Dan]

I remember being told by an Iowa fan while walking back to the high school after the game “Why do you guys have to be so nice?” He seemed genuinely disappointed he couldn’t be mad at Bison fans.


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When we sat down at the stadium - next to a Iowa fan we started talking and he said normally I'd sell my preseason tickets but I've heard so much about you guys I just had to come and see for myself.