NDSU vs Nevada 11/25

[El_Chapo]

NDSU 2 point underdogs
Nevada lost their top 3 players, NDSU lost their top 2 players.
Game at Lincoln Neb.
Over/Under 144.6 ill take under!!

TV anywhere?

[THEsocalledfan]

NDSU 2 point underdogs
Nevada lost their top 3 players, NDSU lost their top 2 players.
Game at Lincoln Neb.
Over/Under 144.6 ill take under!!

TV anywhere?

Sadly, don't see anything posted for TV. Have to settle for Jeff on the call....

[totoinfl]

May not be the game you are looking for, but you can get some idea of the Baja Dakota schools, they are both being televised on either E2 or the Ocho. I think the Jacks will get Jacked by West Virginia.

[Bisonbley]

Nevada's site is saying it will be on Flo Hoops, never heard of that site before and this particular game isn't showing on their event page from what I can see https://www.flohoops.com/events . Just a possibility to check out.

[Herd]

According to the Forum, Griesel at the point to start the season. I'll try to stay positive on this. Sounds like McK will get some time, but Griesel as the starter. Going to be a slower offense one would think. Whoever said take the under . . . I agree. My take away . . . Hayes is going to be counted on heavily and Nelson too, if you move Griesel to the 1. Will be good for their development. If we play against team with great 1's, i.e. MN Carr, going to be a real challenge.

So, my starting lineup guess would be:
Starters / Backups

1) Griesel / McK. (Carter Later)
2) Knotex / Cook Skunny
3) Eady / Skunny Haman (Griesel Later)
4) Hayes / Nelson
5) Rocky / Witz Wilson

I now agree, were he here, Cam would the starter at Point, and we'd be a lot better shape.

[slips]

Anyone have an idea when PG Carter will be a go? With no true experienced PG ready unfortunately i think we see a heavy dose of the famous HCDR traditional perimeter weave offense.

[unbison]

Anyone have an idea when PG Carter will be a go? With no true experienced PG ready unfortunately i think we see a heavy dose of the famous HCDR traditional perimeter weave offense.

It wins!!
It does

[bisonfan08]

Anyone have an idea when PG Carter will be a go? With no true experienced PG ready unfortunately i think we see a heavy dose of the famous HCDR traditional perimeter weave offense.

Forum article today said he's likely out a month yet, obviously been some delays in that timeline as original projections were around 1st week of December. Also with this season being as crazy as it's going to be there's zero point in rushing him back at all, definitely make sure he's 100% before putting him back out there.

[El_Chapo]

NDSU down to +3 now. money raining down on Nevada.

Over/Under still at 144.5 TAKE THE UNDER!!

These chumps in Reno has Nevada winning by 7 http://nevadasportsnet.com/news/reporters/nevada-vs-north-dakota-state-three-keys-to-victory-and-a-prediction

No TV. but i'll peruse the dark web & hopefully find one by gametime :)

[bruinbison]

Ok, different story this time...:)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rgj.com/amp/6414020002



In two of the more notable national metrics, Nevada will tip off the season with a BPI (Basketball Percentage Index) rank of 129th nationally, and a KenPom adjusted efficiency score of plus-4.39 (120th).

North Dakota State enters the season at 294th and minus-1.69 (175th), respectively; Nebraska is 98th in BPI and plus-4.64 (117th) at KenPom.

[El_Chapo]

GIVE US THAT LINK!!!

Wes Offerman
@wesoff
· 29m
We're making some video stream magic, thanks to @HeinCole7 and our friends at HuskerVision.

It looks like we will be able to provide a free live video stream of @NDSUmbb vs. Nevada in Lincoln this afternoon.

[bruinbison]

According to the Forum, Griesel at the point to start the season. I'll try to stay positive on this. Sounds like McK will get some time, but Griesel as the starter. Going to be a slower offense one would think. Whoever said take the under . . . I agree. My take away . . . Hayes is going to be counted on heavily and Nelson too, if you move Griesel to the 1. Will be good for their development. If we play against team with great 1's, i.e. MN Carr, going to be a real challenge.

So, my starting lineup guess would be:
Starters / Backups

1) Griesel / McK. (Carter Later)
2) Knotex / Cook Skunny
3) Eady / Skunny Haman (Griesel Later)
4) Hayes / Nelson
5) Rocky / Witz Wilson

I now agree, were he here, Cam would the starter at Point, and we'd be a lot better shape.

Will be interesting to see how that PG situation goes - also the Tyson Ward point forward position - as the Bison lost their two best players from last season for creating their own shot. Who can do that now when the shot clock is running down?

When Griesel is the PG, will picks be set to free him up?
Rocky doesn’t set a physical pick - he prefers to slip away and spot up for the 3 pointer. Might have to play both bigs together as Witz will set a pick. Can McKinney get by his man when in? 1st step quickness?

Am encouraged in reading about Harden-Hayes...he could have that 1st step quickness at the point forward. Eady has the playmaking ability, perhaps he can do point forward also with improvement from last season. Not quite as quick, though, as Tyson Ward.

[El_Chapo]

here's 3 TV links!!

https://twitter.com/NDSUmbb/status/1331650366459564034?s=20

[JohnnyExtacy]

According to the Forum, Griesel at the point to start the season. I'll try to stay positive on this. Sounds like McK will get some time, but Griesel as the starter. Going to be a slower offense one would think. Whoever said take the under . . . I agree. My take away . . . Hayes is going to be counted on heavily and Nelson too, if you move Griesel to the 1. Will be good for their development. If we play against team with great 1's, i.e. MN Carr, going to be a real challenge.

So, my starting lineup guess would be:
Starters / Backups

1) Griesel / McK. (Carter Later)
2) Knotex / Cook Skunny
3) Eady / Skunny Haman (Griesel Later)
4) Hayes / Nelson
5) Rocky / Witz Wilson

I now agree, were he here, Cam would the starter at Point, and we'd be a lot better shape.

Ball handling is going to be a real issue for this team, probably all year.

[El_Chapo]

Starters Sam Griesel, Rocky Kreuser, Tyree Eady, Jarius Cook and Maleeck Harden-Hayes with Sam at PG

[JohnnyExtacy]

Is Noah Christensen still a year away from seeing the floor? I was also assuming Grant Nelson would redshirt?

[El_Chapo]

Is Noah Christensen still a year away from seeing the floor? I was also assuming Grant Nelson would redshirt?

Noah gone like Cam.

I like the facebook live on NDSU facebook page for pregame show.

[JohnnyExtacy]

Noah gone like Cam.

I like the facebook live on NDSU facebook page for pregame show.

He transferred? He is still on roster.

Nevermind I see that he's not. Wonder what happened there.

[El_Chapo]

NDSU down 2-0 early. turnover. it'll take time to gel.

[El_Chapo]

0-4 Hayes with a great move then shorted the easy layup

[El_Chapo]

you gotta laugh at the Seats for the players all spaced out. GIVE US A FREAKIN BREAK so hilariously stupid Virtue Signalling at best

[Professorbum]

Where are their masks? Why do I have to wear one when I exercise but they don't? Besides, if Nevada has to wear masks, it might cause them to have 0% shooting like us.

[EC8CH]

No PG in the starting lineup who can create off the dribble like Vinnie.

[El_Chapo]

witz/skunberg first 2 subs

Sam scores 2-6 now

[JohnnyExtacy]

Where are their masks? Why do I have to wear one when I exercise but they don't? Besides, if Nevada has to wear masks, it might cause them to have 0% shooting like us.

You aren't getting Covid tested on the daily in an organizaitonal setting.

[Professorbum]

fair point on testing. I still wish we could sink some of these shots, including layups.

[Bison_Pride]

Worst shooting college team I've ever seen. So far.

[El_Chapo]

down 9 -2 i know we all rip on the weave.... but what I'm seeing if with these new guys... they are so urgent to get the ball out of their hands to the next guy.. no one looking for a shot!!

[bruinbison]

Grant Nelson with a strong rebound

[JohnnyExtacy]

down 9 -2 i know we all rip on the weave.... but what I'm seeing if with these new guys... they are so urgent to get the ball out of their hands to the next guy.. no one looking for a shot!!

None of these guys are ball handlers. Richmans offense needs at least 3 ball handlers. Really interesting construction of the team this year.

[roadwarrior]

the fake noise is annoying

[El_Chapo]

7-15 now NDSU got a 3 finally.

why didn't i put about $4000 on the under!!

[80ALUM]

Is anyone getting the video? Mine says technical difficulties.

[Professorbum]

Troubling performance issues notwithstanding, I'll say this though. It is nice to finally watch some NDSU athletics.

[roadwarrior]

Knotek sighting yet?

[ndsubison1]

Is anyone getting the video? Mine says technical difficulties.

This one working for me:

https://players.brightcove.net/6050660108001/4GMuOweD95_default/index.html?videoId=6130109750001&adConfigId=live.YRRQ_4zdhJz9Bwbi_e2PDSc_n2Hpezcgpj GkFkrVo--HPq_lSzHHplOZmG-NGiAieVoCvPTo_oOfyNHZNHJdoKsQCEgL8b0tSw5c2OEu2g

[El_Chapo]

skunberg/nelson getting extended time here

[El_Chapo]

best video so far: https://players.brightcove.net/6050660108001/4GMuOweD95_default/index.html?videoId=6130109750001&adConfigId=live.YRRQ_4zdhJz9Bwbi_e2PDSc_n2Hpezcgpj GkFkrVo--HPq_lSzHHplOZmG-NGiAieVoCvPTo_oOfyNHZNHJdoKsQCEgL8b0tSw5c2OEu2g

9-15 now

[bisonfan08]

Hayes and Nelson looking good, like having Nelson and Krueser on the floor at the same time. Cook looks like he could step up as a shot creator, Skunberg appears to be adjusting to the level of play. Rocky looks like he knows he's the guy now. I think once they settle in a bit we are going to have a decent looking team. My only big concern at the moment is why Knotek isn't playing. I think he can be the dude we need but he hasn't seen the floor. Injury? Dave sitting him for some rules violation? Any ideas?

[Professorbum]

That may have been traveling, but it really isn't much different than what Nevada has been doing down low all game.

[JohnnyExtacy]

Who's 21? That kid looks like he belongs already.

[80ALUM]

This one working for me:

https://players.brightcove.net/6050660108001/4GMuOweD95_default/index.html?videoId=6130109750001&adConfigId=live.YRRQ_4zdhJz9Bwbi_e2PDSc_n2Hpezcgpj GkFkrVo--HPq_lSzHHplOZmG-NGiAieVoCvPTo_oOfyNHZNHJdoKsQCEgL8b0tSw5c2OEu2g

Thanks....

[roadwarrior]

Who's 21? That kid looks like he belongs already.

Skunberg..

[bisonfan08]

Who's 21? That kid looks like he belongs already.

Boden Skunberg, definitely belongs, getting blocked on a jumper that he would've been able to elevate over any defender he faced in high school shows he still has a little adjusting to do but he's gonna be a real solid player for us.

[EC8CH]

Tupac bumping now.

[El_Chapo]

12-21 7 min left b4 half.

[ndsubison1]

We having trouble scoring?

[Big Bird]

Nelson with an awful stretch of play since the timeout

[ByeSonBusiness]

Boden Skunberg, definitely belongs, getting blocked on a jumper that he would've been able to elevate over any defender he faced in high school shows he still has a little adjusting to do but he's gonna be a real solid player for us.

Skunberg made f'ing Jamestown one of the rare undefeated Class A teams...I have to think that means dude can play.

[bisonfan08]

Sloppy offense, to be expected from the freshman but damn we need to clean it up

[El_Chapo]

nelson swatted in the lane..... you're not in Devils Lake HS anymore Welcome to D1.

other than that, he's doing fine, Skunberg as well.

Wish Rocky was fed the ball more down low, but that's just me

[roadwarrior]

Creighton on Sunday!

[Gully]

If we can get a TD before half, we'll be right back in it.

[El_Chapo]

never thought i'd miss Vinnie or Tyson ballhogging and going to the rim. but I do.
wayyyy too much weave.

[El_Chapo]

Creighton on Sunday!

in Omaha or Lincoln?

[JohnnyExtacy]

Well, at least Richman is showing he wants to move towards bigger teams. there is some serious height and length on the floor for NDSu right now in comparison to previous NDSU teams.

[JohnnyExtacy]

Going to take awhile for this team to come together. I'll be curious to see what they look like. Other than a dominant ball handler there is definitely a mix of tools to work with.

[Strommer10]

never thought i'd miss Vinnie or Tyson ballhogging and going to the rim. but I do.
wayyyy too much weave.

This team is going to struggle finding its scoring identity without those two during the non-conference. Hopefully they find it by the start of January. And also adding our only true point guard, DC3, in late December will help.

[El_Chapo]

over/under 144

this game won't hit 100 points LOL

NDSU down 15-24 3 min left

[Professorbum]

For heavens sake. Next year, let's recruit players who can make 5-footers.

[bisonfan08]

We are getting to the hoop, just not finishing shots right now. Defense other than a couple minute stretch has been solid, just need to limit turnovers and get some shots to fall and we can take this thing over.

[Professorbum]

Interesting how Nevada shoots when they have the open shot. We, on the other hand, look to pass. We might try Nevada's strategy and see how it goes.

[JohnnyExtacy]

Has Knotek played?

[Professorbum]

Interesting how Nevada shoots when they have the open shot. We, on the other hand, look to pass. We might try Nevada's strategy and see how it goes.

See? It works.

[Big Bird]

Nice to see Eady go on a little run

[goalpost]

Has Knotek played?

they look very nervous out there

[Big Bird]

Has Knotek played?

Not that I've seen and he isn't in the box score (which he would be if he got into the game)

[bisonfan08]

Has Knotek played?

No, I got Brian Shawn to tweet me back, sounds like he's dealing with a bit of an ankle injury. The fact that he's in uniform on the bench hopefully means it's nothing serious but doesn't look like he'll play today. I honestly think he's our best offensive player so getting him back will help.

[ndsubison1]

Having Carter should help a ton. Griesel will need to be a dude. MHH should be able to guard a ton of people.

[JohnnyExtacy]

inserting Knotek and carter down the road will help alot on the offensive end. I think Knotek could be a real nicer player on offense.

[Big Bird]

That was not an aesthetically pleasing half of basketball.

NDSU played with a little more pace towards the end of the half and seemed to get better looks.

The first 10 minutes was basically unwatchable with the lack of pace, awful shooting, and nobody to create good looks.

[goalpost]

very well said, every year we start off looking awful , but come around

[slips]

Should have saved Nelson's redshirt year. Early indications he is nowhere even close to ready. We can't finish at the rim and bricks from the outside. An atrocious 1st half and lets hope it was just nerves. D is ok but slow on rotations. To be expected with a bigger lineup. Lets hope the boys come out re-focused in the 2nd half.

[roadwarrior]

Nobody loses a year of eligibility this year.

[Big Bird]

Should have saved Nelson's redshirt year. Early indications he is nowhere even close to ready. We can't finish at the rim and bricks from the outside. An atrocious 1st half and lets hope it was just nerves. D is ok but slow on rotations. To be expected with a bigger lineup. Lets hope the boys come out re-focused in the 2nd half.

Honest question: Isn't this year essentially a free year eligibility wise? Didn't the NCAA says this year wouldn't count towards a students years of eligibility? Or was that just certain sports?

Never mind- roadwarrior already answered

[Strommer10]

Honest question: Isn't this year essentially a free year eligibility wise? Didn't the NCAA says this year wouldn't count towards a students years of eligibility? Or was that just certain sports?

Never mind- roadwarrior already answered

It was for sure fall and winter sports. 2020 spring sports had the same decision from the NCAA.

[Bison03]

Should have saved Nelson's redshirt year. Early indications he is nowhere even close to ready. We can't finish at the rim and bricks from the outside. An atrocious 1st half and lets hope it was just nerves. D is ok but slow on rotations. To be expected with a bigger lineup. Lets hope the boys come out re-focused in the 2nd half.
Nobody loses a year of eligibility this year fyi, so he will still have 4 years left after this year. We are a young team without our two stars from last year, playing our first game. No surprise on coming out slow to start. Hopefully improvement and adjustments come in the next 20 min.

[roadwarrior]

Creighton game in Omaha on Sunday. No time listed.

[Strommer10]

Creighton game in Omaha on Sunday. No time listed.

So the first two week's of the schedule as of right now will be:

Nevada
At Nebraska
At #11 Creighton
At #6 Kansas

What a start to the season...

[Big Bird]

Absolutely perfect first minute of the half

[bisonfan08]

Horrible block call on Rocky there, nice start to the 2nd half other than that.

[Big Bird]

Horrible block call on Rocky there, nice start to the 2nd half other than that.

Agreed. Ref was slow calling it too.

7-0 run to start the half with 2 transition buckets

[El_Chapo]

7-0 RUN NDSU.... hell ya!!

[bisonfan08]

Hayes just finding all sorts of ways to get the ball around the rim but can't finish a damn shot. Be confident man!

[Big Bird]

I like the pace and cuts so far this half. Couple trips to the line, looks at the rim, and an open three

When MHH and Cook turn on the jets, they can really run

[El_Chapo]

28-33 Nevada is money in the mid range

[Big Bird]

Witz looked like a much taller version of me out there on the last possession....and that is really not a good thing.

Love the athleticism and motor of MHH. He just needs to smooth out his handle and finishing around the basket.

[El_Chapo]

man get within 2 or so and Nevada hits a 3

[bisonfan08]

Skunberg feelin it!!! BUCKETS!

[Big Bird]

Back to back Skunberg buckets and looking more confident.

[Bison03]

Completely different team this half! Good to see.

[Big Bird]

Really bad turnover by Nelson

[goalpost]

Nelson looks lost out there

[Big Bird]

Need to sit Nelson down

[bisonfan08]

And Nelson with the airball...few bad possessions in a row for him. Playing solid defense and rebounding well but he's playing very much like a lost freshman on the offensive end.

[Gully]

Is the floor slippery? My gosh we've had a bunch of guys just fall down while making a move.

[HandoEX]

How has McKinney looked?

[Big Bird]

Down 4, 10 minutes to go

[Big Bird]

Nevada owning the offensive glass right now

[Big Bird]

Great contest by Nelson at the rim leads to a big Greisel slam at the other end.

[Big Bird]

Down 3, 8 to go, and now with the ball after a Nevada offensive fall

[goalpost]

Nelson playing a little better now

[80ALUM]

Not that I've seen and he isn't in the box score (which he would be if he got into the game)

Culhane said Knotek has a sprained ankle. Could play if necessary.

[El_Chapo]

Eadddddy for 3 !! down 43-47 with the ball.

[Big Bird]

Huge three by Eady (after 2 offensive boards) to stem the bleeding and get in back to a 4 point deficit

[El_Chapo]

Eadddddy for 3 !! down 43-47 with the ball.

then give up a wide open 3 argh.

[Big Bird]

Nevada is red hot all the sudden and up 10

[bisonfan08]

We miss a couple open looks at 3 and they hit a couple and just like that it's a 10 point game. Oof that was a tough stretch. 10 points in 4 minutes is going to be tough to make up the way we are shooting right now.

[goalpost]

both teams playing a lot better this half , unfortunately we cant pull ahead.

[El_Chapo]

How has McKinney looked?

12 min 0-3 hasnt played much in 2nd

[Big Bird]

Under 4 timeout. Bison down 9, but Cook at the line for 2.

Both teams in the bonus (and Nevada is just 3-7 at the line today)

[El_Chapo]

down 9 time to get some shots up!

[bisonfan08]

12 min 0-3 hasnt played much in 2nd

To actually answer the question though he has looked pretty good when in, has played smart, looks solid on the defensive end, got around his defender with his quickness a couple times. So far so good I would say

[El_Chapo]

rocky with only 6 points frustrates me

[Big Bird]

Down 7, 3 to go, and have the ball

[Gully]

another fall? how many is that?

[bisonfan08]

I'm so confused when Rocky gets the ball in the post with a smaller defender on him why he looks to pass right away

[Big Bird]

Is the floor slippery? My gosh we've had a bunch of guys just fall down while making a move.

Annnnnd Griesel just slipped in the same spot others have in a crucial point of the game

[El_Chapo]

still passing it around perimeter for 20 seconds down 9 with 2:45 left... CMON!!!

[El_Chapo]

down 7 1:34 left. Nevada ball.

[bisonfan08]

still passing it around perimeter for 20 seconds down 9 with 2:45 left... CMON!!!

And Griesel getting blocked forcing something inside versus kicking to a wide open Eady for 3, need points fellas

[goalpost]

14 point left on the floor from 2 feet today

[El_Chapo]

NDSU gets 2 good looks from 3pt land. miss both. Nevada ball. that's the game down 12 1 min left dangit.

[bisonfan08]

14 point left on the floor from 2 feet today

At least. Just brutal finishing around the rim

[Big Bird]

Horrible McKinney turnover...but it leads to a comically bad and overcomplicated dunk/travel at the other end

[El_Chapo]

last possession encapsulates this game. runs the weave with 42 secs left, 6 passes then loses the ball.

Ok cya saturday. woof

[HerdThat!]

The music was good though

[80ALUM]

Bison fail to score in last 5 minutes of the game.

[Big Bird]

The music was good though

Better than good, IMO

[slips]

Bison under Richman always start slow. NOBODY stepped up today. Rockey and/or Griesel have to step up on this team on O. Neither came close! MHH made horrible decisions all day and Nelson could not finish, pass or dribble at this level yet. Skunk looks like he belongs and can contribute early and often. I hope I'm wrong but early signs point to a rebuilding year!....uggg

[El_Chapo]

no covid shake line... but they sweat and hang and bang for 40 minutes

NCAA VIRTUE SIGNALERS!

hahaha.

lets beat Nebraska or Crieghton. that'd be fun this weekend

[slips]

We were spoiled with Vinnie and Ward. Unless Carter is Vinnie x2 the Bison are going to have a rough year. We just got boat raced by the #7 team in the MWC and Nebraska the #12 team in the big 10 will likely boat race us by 20 plus.

[bisonfan08]

Bison under Richman always start slow. NOBODY stepped up today. Rockey and/or Griesel have to step up on this team on O. Neither came close! MHH made horrible decisions all day and Nelson could not finish, pass or dribble at this level yet. Skunk looks like he belongs and can contribute early and often. I hope I'm wrong but early signs point to a rebuilding year!....uggg

Literally every season under Richman starts like this and then by time Summit League tournament starts we are playing for championships. Getting Knotek on the floor will help a lot on offense, eventually getting DCIII will also push us in the right direction. Nelson and Witz going 1-8 when only 2 of those came from more than 3 feet from the basket hurt big time.

Positives were I thought we defended well in the half court, just struggled in transition and in the 2nd half I thought we did a good job of getting good shots we just couldn't finish them. I think we have the talent and definitely have great size but going to take a few weeks for everybody to figure out their roles. You'd prefer to have that better defined in practice but seems as though Dave's teams always need a few weeks of regular season play to get dialed in. Even last years team looked bad out of the gate against 3 not very good opponents that we still beat and then lost 2 games to Stony Brook and Utah Valley that we had no business losing and were sitting at 4-3 before they settled in and played well the rest of the way.

[Big Bird]

Pretty rough game to watch, but it was still a game that NDSU could have, maybe even should have, won. My opinion:

Eady- Had some big buckets when nobody was getting buckets. That being said, he was invisible for huge chunks of the game (almost the entire second half). He also struggled to fight through screens, leading to some easy looks.
Griesel- He's fine, but he's stretched thin as your initiator on offense. Problem is, he was the primary ballhandler late in the 2nd. Need him to develop into a better shooter too. Sub 30% 3 point shooter his first two years and didn't look comfortable or fluid from deep today.
Cook- I liked what I saw. He's fast, had a nice stroke and wasn't afraid to put it on the floor. He was solid on D too.
MHH- Probably the most athletic guy on the court today. Needs to finish much better around the rim and tighten his handle. A better outside stroke would be a huge development too. Very active and switchable on D.
Kreuser- Bad game offensively. He was ok on D and pretty good on the glass, but it feels like they're going to need 14ish a game from him on offense and he was nowhere near that today.

Nelson- Really bad game on offense, but he was at least playable on defense. He had a really nice contest at the rim that led to Griesel's big dunk. He needs to add a bunch of weight, really tighten his handle, and probably speed up his release a bit.
Skunberg- I think he is going to score a ton of points in his career. For it being his first game, he looked pretty comfortable taking shots.
Witz- I don't have anything good to say. He did have 7 boards, but Nevada also cleaned the offensive glass in the second when he was in. He was a big negative on offense too.
McKinney- Pretty invisible except for his negative plays. Needs to play a lot better going forward or he'll be out of the rotation.

The question of who is going to get buckets is still the biggest unanswered question for this team. Eady, Skunberg, and Griesel all had moments, but they were far too infrequent. Going forward, have to hope Knotek comes back and provides some juice and Kresuer gives you more inside.

[NDSU92]

Nevada finished #2 in the MW last year correct? Are they a good team?

[fbmind]

In an effort for better conversations on this board, here are some general and what I hope are level-headed observations after seeing this team for the first time (I watched the whole game):

-Regardless of the outcome, it was fun to finally watch some college basketball again.

-Coach Richman and his staff have recruited for "position-less" basketball and that has created a team with a lot of length and athleticism. Time will tell (I will say that a lot), but this team has the pieces to be very good at rebounding and playing defense (was on display for stretches today).

-With the loss of Vinnie, Tyson and Jared and the huge roles they played, a lot of guys have new roles on this team...it will take some time for them to figure out those new roles.

-The biggest role to figure out is who will be the guy or two who take over late in the shot-clock or game when they need a bucket. We all knew that would be the biggest thing to figure out with the loss of Vinnie and Tyson and again, over time, they will need to figure that out.

-Was pleasantly surprised that the lack of a true point guard did not hurt them in terms of getting into and running their offense. That said, still remains to be seen how Sam and Tyree handling a lot of the dribbling duties works when they place a team that pressures more on the defensive end.

INDIVIDUAL PLAY

-With this, I mostly want to focus on the young/new players. Griesel, Eady and Krueser will be the leaders for this team and as expected they had good and bad stretches with their new roles...again it will take time but no reason to believe that they can't grow into those roles.

-Jarius Cook: Cook has really remade his body and his shot. He also competes really hard and is really bought in to the NDSU brand of basketball. Showed some nice flashes today. To be honest, over time could turn into a more athletic version of Samuelson.

-Maleeck Harden-Hayes: Like we saw last year, his length and athleticism are special and were on display a few times today. That being said, he has to learn to finish through contact...he will have a lot of opportunities around the rim this year and he has to complete more of those plays. Over time, Will also need to show that he can knock down an occasional shot or two from the outside.

-Boden Skunberg: I admit I am biased...I think he has a chance to be a really good player (even this year)...very similar to Freidel from SDSU. Has similar traits/game to him and it really showed in the second half. Made a 3 and then came down a trip or two later and wanted the shot and made a tough pull-up...has that mentality where he wants the ball and plays with no fear. Also likes to mix it up on the boards. Nothing about this game dampened my expectations for what he could be this year and beyond.

-Desmond McKinney: Only "true" PG right now (probably more of a combo at this point) without Carter, so he needs to get some minutes in case they need him. Right now, not sure he can do much more than provide a ball-handler at this point. Not very big and limited offensively at this point. But again, will need to get him some minutes early in the year and over time hope that he can settle in and find a role where they can count on him for 8-12 minutes a game.

-Grant Nelson: Saved Nelson for last because honestly he was the biggest surprise to me. His stat line isn't very impressive (0 pts, 3TO), but he showed some really good things that don't show up in the stat line. His length and athleticism are really legit and made me do a double-take a few times. He really affected some shots on the defensive end, kept rebounds alive and showed an ability to not only handle the ball, but make moves while doing it (even though a couple of them turned out bad). Yes he didn't finish and yes some of them resulted in ugly TOs, but the potential for this guy to turn into a big-time player in the Summit is there. He still needs to add 15-20 pounds and adjust to the speed of the game...but this is a guy that over time could be a really solid contributor at some point this season. Overall, really impressed by the two ND kids and what the future holds.

That's it...will try to give a similar take after the Nebraska game.

[ByeSonBusiness]

Give the keys to Skunberg lmao lets go pump it up Richman

[JohnnyExtacy]

Team did ok I thought without it's starting backcourt. Both Carter and Knotek are going to be needed on offense for this team to score. I think the next couple games will be ugly but I like the length of the team and they all play hard.

I really think Skunkberg and Nelson are going to be really good players. NDSU has 4 really good and promising underclassmen in Nelson, Skunkberg, Cook, and Harden-Hayes. I'm not really sure if Odell Wilson is going to have a role in this program moving forward.

[HoopsBison]

Going to be some growing pains with this young group but what an opportunity these young guys have to get game minutes and not lose a year. I think this team will need to hunt shots faster this year. Not sure there is a guy on the roster that really excels late in the shot clock. It will help when we can move Sam off the ball and get him back to his normal spot. Knotek injury is nothing serious and will likely have him back this weekend.

Exciting to think about some of these young guys down the road if they can devolop, not to mention you throw Morgan into this group next year.

As for the game, losing sucks. Certainly dont think Nevada is near as strong as they have been these last few years. Gonna be hard for us to win when Rocky only scores 6.

[slips]

In an effort for better conversations on this board, here are some general and what I hope are level-headed observations after seeing this team for the first time (I watched the whole game):

-Regardless of the outcome, it was fun to finally watch some college basketball again.

-Coach Richman and his staff have recruited for "position-less" basketball and that has created a team with a lot of length and athleticism. Time will tell (I will say that a lot), but this team has the pieces to be very good at rebounding and playing defense (was on display for stretches today).

-With the loss of Vinnie, Tyson and Jared and the huge roles they played, a lot of guys have new roles on this team...it will take some time for them to figure out those new roles.

-The biggest role to figure out is who will be the guy or two who take over late in the shot-clock or game when they need a bucket. We all knew that would be the biggest thing to figure out with the loss of Vinnie and Tyson and again, over time, they will need to figure that out.

-Was pleasantly surprised that the lack of a true point guard did not hurt them in terms of getting into and running their offense. That said, still remains to be seen how Sam and Tyree handling a lot of the dribbling duties works when they place a team that pressures more on the defensive end.

INDIVIDUAL PLAY

-With this, I mostly want to focus on the young/new players. Griesel, Eady and Krueser will be the leaders for this team and as expected they had good and bad stretches with their new roles...again it will take time but no reason to believe that they can't grow into those roles.

-Jarius Cook: Cook has really remade his body and his shot. He also competes really hard and is really bought in to the NDSU brand of basketball. Showed some nice flashes today. To be honest, over time could turn into a more athletic version of Samuelson.

-Maleeck Harden-Hayes: Like we saw last year, his length and athleticism are special and were on display a few times today. That being said, he has to learn to finish through contact...he will have a lot of opportunities around the rim this year and he has to complete more of those plays. Over time, Will also need to show that he can knock down an occasional shot or two from the outside.

-Boden Skunberg: I admit I am biased...I think he has a chance to be a really good player (even this year)...very similar to Freidel from SDSU. Has similar traits/game to him and it really showed in the second half. Made a 3 and then came down a trip or two later and wanted the shot and made a tough pull-up...has that mentality where he wants the ball and plays with no fear. Also likes to mix it up on the boards. Nothing about this game dampened my expectations for what he could be this year and beyond.

-Desmond McKinney: Only "true" PG right now (probably more of a combo at this point) without Carter, so he needs to get some minutes in case they need him. Right now, not sure he can do much more than provide a ball-handler at this point. Not very big and limited offensively at this point. But again, will need to get him some minutes early in the year and over time hope that he can settle in and find a role where they can count on him for 8-12 minutes a game.

-Grant Nelson: Saved Nelson for last because honestly he was the biggest surprise to me. His stat line isn't very impressive (0 pts, 3TO), but he showed some really good things that don't show up in the stat line. His length and athleticism are really legit and made me do a double-take a few times. He really affected some shots on the defensive end, kept rebounds alive and showed an ability to not only handle the ball, but make moves while doing it (even though a couple of them turned out bad). Yes he didn't finish and yes some of them resulted in ugly TOs, but the potential for this guy to turn into a big-time player in the Summit is there. He still needs to add 15-20 pounds and adjust to the speed of the game...but this is a guy that over time could be a really solid contributor at some point this season. Overall, really impressed by the two ND kids and what the future holds.

That's it...will try to give a similar take after the Nebraska game.

Pretty good analysis for the most part. I disagree with MHH and Nelson however. Nelson was totally out of his league. Only positive thing he did all game was snag a few rebounds from Kreuser. His shot selection sucked, his defense sucked, he had multiple opportunities to finish around the rim and finished 0. Kid has potential and will likely be an integral part of the team a few years down the road but he is going to take his lumps now. MHH was also very disappointing around the rim. He starred the set defender in the eye, took two dribbles and barreled straight Into him. It was the most head scratching play I have seen at any level of basketball EVER. Richman coached teams generally start slow and pick it up as the season goes on. I hope this season is no different but they have a lot of work to do.

[NDSU92]

Pretty good analysis for the most part. I disagree with MHH and Nelson however. Nelson was totally out of his league. Only positive thing he did all game was snag a few rebounds from Kreuser. His shot selection sucked, his defense sucked, he had multiple opportunities to finish around the rim and finished 0. Kid has potential and will likely be an integral part of the team a few years down the road but he is going to take his lumps now. MHH was also very disappointing around the rim. He starred the set defender in the eye, took two dribbles and barreled straight Into him. It was the most head scratching play I have seen at any level of basketball EVER. Richman coached teams generally start slow and pick it up as the season goes on. I hope this season is no different but they have a lot of work to do.

Nelson is a true freshman that most certainly would have redshirted this year if it wasn’t 2020. He’s a D1 athlete, so he certainly can be criticized/critiqued, but his last time on the court was probably against Jamestown High or something. He’s contributing minutes now and that wouldn’t have been expected during normal times. I think it’ll really help him develop early on.

[HoopsBison]

Pretty good analysis for the most part. I disagree with MHH and Nelson however. Nelson was totally out of his league. Only positive thing he did all game was snag a few rebounds from Kreuser. His shot selection sucked, his defense sucked, he had multiple opportunities to finish around the rim and finished 0. Kid has potential and will likely be an integral part of the team a few years down the road but he is going to take his lumps now. MHH was also very disappointing around the rim. He starred the set defender in the eye, took two dribbles and barreled straight Into him. It was the most head scratching play I have seen at any level of basketball EVER. Richman coached teams generally start slow and pick it up as the season goes on. I hope this season is no different but they have a lot of work to do.

I agree Nelson didnt have a very good game but still flashed at moments today. He's a kid that's really gonna benefit from being able to play this year and not losing the year. Going to be an interesting year.

[JohnnyExtacy]

I agree Nelson didnt have a very good game but still flashed at moments today. He's a kid that's really gonna benefit from being able to play this year and not losing the year. Going to be an interesting year.

Are you sure the players don't lose a year? I know it was floated around in football but I don't know anything about a decision on basketball

[HoopsBison]

Are you sure the players don't lose a year? I know it was floated around in football but I don't know anything about a decision on basketball

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/di-council-extends-eligibility-winter-sport-student-athletes

I believe so....

[ndsubison1]

Nevada finished #2 in the MW last year correct? Are they a good team?

Nowhere near the top 25 team they were a couple years ago

[El_Chapo]

nevada lost top 3 scorers. picked 7th.
NDSU will probably start 0-3 & thankfully dodge Minnesota for 0-4 . go 10-6 in conference, get to .500. be #4 , 5 seed in summit is where im setting the bar this year.

[HoopsBison]

Nevada just took down Nebraska 69-66.

[El_Chapo]

Nevada just took down Nebraska 69-66.

Someone start a NDSU v Nebraska thread. im 0-1

Nevada rallied from down 10. Nebraska was really hammering them for a bit. So hopefully we catch the later of the 2 teams..