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El_Chapo
09-29-2020, 10:11 PM
3 days before and YOU PULL THE LUCY & CHARLIE BROWN KICK BS ON US??

This is an absolute joke.

Bison 4 Life
09-29-2020, 10:12 PM
North Dakota fucked around and found out.

El_Chapo
09-29-2020, 10:13 PM
whatever.
2 words
limp dick nation


#FearPorn

Kevin
09-29-2020, 10:14 PM
whatever.
2 words
limp dick nation


#FearPorn


ur grounded lakes.

ndsubison1
09-29-2020, 10:18 PM
Just wear masks, they make the virus run away.

HerdBot
09-29-2020, 10:21 PM
I agree. Now every bar with be packed instead.

Bison bison
09-29-2020, 10:22 PM
This is definitely in line with what the situation indicates.

westnodak93bison
09-29-2020, 10:22 PM
I agree. Now every bar with be packed instead.Exactly. No way around the exposure.

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HerdBot
09-29-2020, 10:26 PM
So where are the 8,000 fans going to watch the game, including the other 11,000 who coudn't get tickets? This is going to be the busiest bar and restaurant day ever. So brilliant. Whoever made this decision is brain dead. I'll see you guys at the bar on Saturday!

Bison bison
09-29-2020, 10:29 PM
NDSU had zero business sanctioning the original event. Even moreso as a state agency.

1978Bison
09-29-2020, 10:31 PM
Watch Governor Burgum’s press conference on Thursday. I totally expect him to lower the boom and move to “Orange” risk levels for several counties, thus closing all but essential businesses, just like last Spring. Go out to your pubs, bars & restaurants before Thursday. If we’re lucky, he will make it effective after the game, but I’m expecting it before the game.

JohnnyExtacy
09-29-2020, 10:32 PM
I'm utterly shocked that people are this hyped to watch a completely irrelevant, noncompetitive, meaningless, game against a garbage opponent. If anything, this game is a tiny taste of what you won't be getting this fall with what could have been unarguably the greatest NDSU football team ever. I honestly believe they were going to use this year's team, with a scheduled game with Oregon, 2 potential 1st round picks, as a possibly screentest on a recent move up to FBS and that has been completely derailed.

No_Skill
09-29-2020, 10:36 PM
Here's a thought...watch at home. People going out is why we can't have nice things. Bitch and moan about leadership all you want. It's time for people to have some personal accountability and think about the greater good.

Gully
09-29-2020, 10:41 PM
I'm utterly shocked that people are this hyped to watch a completely irrelevant, noncompetitive, meaningless, game against a garbage opponent. If anything, this game is a tiny taste of what you won't be getting this fall with what could have been unarguably the greatest NDSU football team ever. I honestly believe they were going to use this year's team, with a scheduled game with Oregon, 2 potential 1st round picks, as a possibly screentest on a recent move up to FBS and that has been completely derailed.

No chance. I haven't seen any action or ideas out of Matt Larson. I haven't been one of the people raging on and on about "moving up" or other things, but think about it, what has Matt Larson really brought to the program that wasn't already here? I just don't see reason to be excited anymore. It looks like the best players are leaving early and there isn't a compelling schedule (I know it's not easy). So we can (hopefully) watch them destroy Indiana State for the 10th time next spring....great. Changing the plans this late before a game when people have travel plans, etc. is just another slap in the face.

Hammerhead
09-29-2020, 10:50 PM
Here's a thought...watch at home. People going out is why we can't have nice things. Bitch and moan about leadership all you want. It's time for people to have some personal accountability and think about the greater good.

Watching parents on the news with no masks crying about no full time in person classes makes me want to tell them to look in the mirror for the source of their problem.

ByeSonBusiness
09-29-2020, 10:53 PM
I agree. Now every bar with be packed instead.

I doubt anywhere will be packed for what is going to amount to a scrimmage.

BisonLaw
09-29-2020, 10:55 PM
No chance. I haven't seen any action or ideas out of Matt Larson. I haven't been one of the people raging on and on about "moving up" or other things, but think about it, what has Matt Larson really brought to the program that wasn't already here? I just don't see reason to be excited anymore. It looks like the best players are leaving early and there isn't a compelling schedule (I know it's not easy). So we can (hopefully) watch them destroy Indiana State for the 10th time next spring....great. Changing the plans this late before a game when people have travel plans, etc. is just another slap in the face.

This is exactly how I feel.

JohnnyExtacy
09-29-2020, 10:56 PM
No chance. I haven't seen any action or ideas out of Matt Larson. I haven't been one of the people raging on and on about "moving up" or other things, but think about it, what has Matt Larson really brought to the program that wasn't already here? I just don't see reason to be excited anymore. It looks like the best players are leaving early and there isn't a compelling schedule (I know it's not easy). So we can (hopefully) watch them destroy Indiana State for the 10th time next spring....great. Changing the plans this late before a game when people have travel plans, etc. is just another slap in the face.

Where's the program supposed to go that it isn't already? The school, administration, and higher ups have all maintained that NDSU will not be moving up to FBS long before Larson was here. It's most likely he's doing what he's told with that direction. People cry about lack of games, but yes it's absolutely possibly he couldn't get one P5 team to bite. That isn't far fetched. Gene Taylor always said himself NDSU should always be in that 2nd tier of conferences. He moved on because he knew it and there wasn't anymore that he could do here.

The school is as far as its going to go until it decides it does want to move up. That isn't Matt Larson's decision.

JohnnyExtacy
09-29-2020, 10:57 PM
I doubt anywhere will be packed for what is going to amount to a scrimmage.

If it is packed, it will be cleared out by the end of the first quarter when the score is 21+ to 0.

HandoEX
09-29-2020, 11:07 PM
In my opinion, Matt Larsen is a spineless coward. Fuck him.

EC8CH
09-29-2020, 11:07 PM
No chance. I haven't seen any action or ideas out of Matt Larson.

Beer at the SHAC.

HerdBot
09-29-2020, 11:09 PM
In my opinion, Matt Larsen is a spineless coward. Fuck him.

Yep. You can't unlearn New York stupid

HerdBot
09-29-2020, 11:11 PM
Usually I get pissed and then I calm down. After an hour I'm more pissed. And then I get to watch the debate. Ill be lucky if I don't have a stroke

El_Chapo
09-29-2020, 11:13 PM
I'm utterly shocked that people are this hyped to watch a completely irrelevant, noncompetitive, meaningless, game against a garbage opponent. If anything, this game is a tiny taste of what you won't be getting this fall with what could have been unarguably the greatest NDSU football team ever. I honestly believe they were going to use this year's team, with a scheduled game with Oregon, 2 potential 1st round picks, as a possibly screentest on a recent move up to FBS and that has been completely derailed.

its about having 2 testicles

El_Chapo
09-29-2020, 11:14 PM
Here's a thought...watch at home. People going out is why we can't have nice things. Bitch and moan about leadership all you want. It's time for people to have some personal accountability and think about the greater good.

Flatten that CURVE... just like they said on MARCH 15 !!!


This combined with Spring combined with Bison Fatigue and Trey Lance and Dillon Radunz leaving is NOT DOING TO END WILL FOR NDSU

SDbison
09-29-2020, 11:20 PM
This is definitely in line with what the situation indicates. Bunch of pussies!

HerdBot
09-29-2020, 11:24 PM
Flatten that CURVE... just like they said on MARCH 15 !!!


This combined with Spring combined with Bison Fatigue and Trey Lance and Dillon Radunz leaving is NOT DOING TO END WILL FOR NDSU

Yep. And they did. Still waiting for the 100k dead North Dakotans and millions in the US.

El_Chapo
09-29-2020, 11:32 PM
Scott Hennen
@scotthennen
I hear @NDSU
was bullied into this decision. The Fargo Cass Public Health folks have way too much power, unelected power. And it has nothing to do with the change to yellow recommendations.

HerdBot
09-29-2020, 11:34 PM
Scott Hennen
@scotthennen
I hear @NDSU
was bullied into this decision. The Fargo Cass Public Health folks have way too much power, unelected power. And it has nothing to do with the change to yellow recommendations.

They based their entire decision on yellow level.

BisonLaw
09-29-2020, 11:34 PM
Usually I get pissed and then I calm down. After an hour I'm more pissed. And then I get to watch the debate. Ill be lucky if I don't have a stroke

This news broke right after the Twins choked the game away in the 9th...I'm refusing to watch the debate now and going to find a better way to relax tonight.

HerdBot
09-29-2020, 11:37 PM
This news broke right after the Twins choked the game away in the 9th...I'm refusing to watch the debate now and going to find a better way to relax tonight.

Yep and I was already pissed after watching the Twins. This day sucks giant harry nut sack. (I'm still pissed)

NDSUstudent
09-29-2020, 11:38 PM
Scott Hennen
@scotthennen
I hear @NDSU
was bullied into this decision. The Fargo Cass Public Health folks have way too much power, unelected power. And it has nothing to do with the change to yellow recommendations.

Not surprising, people mad at Larson are mad at somebody who wasn't making this call.

EC8CH
09-29-2020, 11:45 PM
Yep. And they did. Still waiting for the 100k dead North Dakotans and millions in the US.

Millions? Really???

1918 Flu killed only 675,000 over a two year period.

Early on the range of expected deaths from covid-19 was between 100,000 to 200,000 which we've already blown threw.

EC8CH
09-29-2020, 11:47 PM
Not surprising, people mad at Larson are mad at somebody who wasn't making this call.

SHHHH let them go... they're on a roll.

It's like a salsa commerical from the 90's....

"Says here this AD is from New York City."

NEW YORK CITY!?!?!?!

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SplendidDirtyGermanshepherd-size_restricted.gif

Get a rope.

daddy daycare
09-30-2020, 12:08 AM
Odd decision to have a game in the first place. Glad the families can enjoy it.

SafeTeeJ
09-30-2020, 01:13 AM
SHHHH let them go... they're on a roll.

It's like a salsa commerical from the 90's....

"Says here this AD is from New York City."

NEW YORK CITY!?!?!?!

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SplendidDirtyGermanshepherd-size_restricted.gif

Get a rope.

The original commercial stated “New Jersey”

NDSU_grad
09-30-2020, 01:54 AM
Millions? Really???

1918 Flu killed only 675,000 over a two year period.

Early on the range of expected deaths from covid-19 was between 100,000 to 200,000 which we've already blown threw.
Wow. That’s not misleading.

EC8CH
09-30-2020, 02:03 AM
The original commercial stated “New Jersey”

Really? I did not know that.

SDbison
09-30-2020, 02:07 AM
NDSU had zero business sanctioning the original event. Even moreso as a state agency. Yes they did. You are full of shit.

SDbison
09-30-2020, 02:11 AM
Here's a thought...watch at home. People going out is why we can't have nice things. Bitch and moan about leadership all you want. It's time for people to have some personal accountability and think about the greater good. In your mind......so more small businesses going out of business is greater good......that is what will happen when you shut down everything.

El_Chapo
09-30-2020, 02:14 AM
so much for the "herd" huh..

No_Skill
09-30-2020, 02:17 AM
In your mind......so more small businesses going out of business is greater good......that is what will happen when you shut down everything.

The world has changed, like it has many times in the past. Those that adapt will survive and thrive. You don't see many small businesses making buggy whips any more.

NDSU_grad
09-30-2020, 02:33 AM
The world has changed, like it has many times in the past. Those that adapt will survive and thrive. You don't see many small businesses making buggy whips any more.
Right. But you’re talking about a world with no in-person events; sports, concerts, rallies, etc. 100% virtual learning, no brick and mortar businesses period. Forever. Just doesn’t sound that great to me.

SDbison
09-30-2020, 02:36 AM
The world has changed, like it has many times in the past. Those that adapt will survive and thrive. You don't see many small businesses making buggy whips any more. What the heck are you talking about.....survival of fittest is what past brave Americans did during disease outbreaks.....they went to work or school, frequented restaurants and bars, and attended movies, plays and sporting events. They didn't cower in their homes waiting for big daddy government.

EC8CH
09-30-2020, 02:40 AM
How long until this thread gets moved to political forum I wonder?

El_Chapo
09-30-2020, 02:46 AM
How long until this thread gets moved to political forum I wonder?

Yea. Lets not do that people !!!

This is a FOOTBALL DECISION!! FOOTBALL... and it's a gutless decision depriving US of seeing Trey and Dillon 1 last time

No_Skill
09-30-2020, 02:47 AM
What the heck are you talking about.....survival of fittest is what past brave Americans did during disease outbreaks.....they went to work or school, frequented restaurants and bars, and attended movies, plays and sporting events. They didn't cower in their homes waiting for big daddy government.

The Americans I admire the most are the innovators. The ones who see a challenge and tackle it with new ideas and new solutions, not the ones who shout definently at the wind.

reformedUNDfan
09-30-2020, 02:52 AM
Scott Hennen
@scotthennen
I hear @NDSU
was bullied into this decision. The Fargo Cass Public Health folks have way too much power, unelected power. And it has nothing to do with the change to yellow recommendations.

weird take given that FCPH is far more democraticly legitimate than NDSU football

reformedUNDfan
09-30-2020, 02:54 AM
People really wanted to risk a global media dumping in NDSU football so they can watch a single non competitive game in person

EC8CH
09-30-2020, 02:54 AM
What the heck are you talking about.....survival of fittest is what past brave Americans did during disease outbreaks.....they went to work or school, frequented restaurants and bars, and attended movies, plays and sporting events. They didn't cower in their homes waiting for big daddy government.

A few months later, in March of 1919, the Stanley Cup Finals was canceled, according to CBS Sports, just hours before Game 6 was scheduled to start, this because several players became ill. Years later, the Stanley Cup trophy was engraved with the following: 1919 Montreal Canadiens/Seattle Metropolitans/Series Not Completed.”


The 1918 football season was a mishmash of canceled seasons and truncated schedules, depending on the school and the conference. All seven members of the Missouri Valley Conference — which would become the Big 8/12 — shut down football completely. Eight other schools did the same thing. Most schools cut their schedules almost in half, playing five games.

reformedUNDfan
09-30-2020, 02:58 AM
In your mind......so more small businesses going out of business is greater good......that is what will happen when you shut down everything.

over here in adult land, people are avoiding business anyway even though things are 'open'

forcing open busines just increases the burn rate and they die even faster

bisonaudit
09-30-2020, 03:02 AM
Right. But you’re talking about a world with no in-person events; sports, concerts, rallies, etc. 100% virtual learning, no brick and mortar businesses period. Forever. Just doesn’t sound that great to me.

Forever? Not sure where you’re getting that from?

SDbison
09-30-2020, 03:09 AM
The Americans I admire the most are the innovators. The ones who see a challenge and tackle it with new ideas and new solutions, not the ones who shout definently at the wind. What drugs are you on?

HerdBot
09-30-2020, 03:21 AM
Millions? Really???

1918 Flu killed only 675,000 over a two year period.

Early on the range of expected deaths from covid-19 was between 100,000 to 200,000 which we've already blown threw.

This model predicted 2.2 million deaths in the US
https://www.hpnonline.com/infection-prevention/screening-surveillance/article/21130206/covid19-predicted-to-infect-81-of-us-population-cause-22-million-deaths-in-us

Us population in 1918 - 103 million
Us population in 2020 - 331 million

SDbison
09-30-2020, 03:30 AM
After this gutless decision and assuming I get 4 home games next Spring, I will be requestimg NDSU refund the cost of tickets I already paid for 2 non -conference games. They can keep my teammaker donation, but the fact is why should I pay for games they decided not to have? Have yet to hear anything about refunds that will be given.

roadwarrior
09-30-2020, 03:32 AM
After this gutless decision and assuming I get 4 home games next Spring, I will be requestimg NDSU refund the cost of tickets I already paid for 2 non -conference games. They can keep my teammaker donation, but the fact is why should I pay for games they decided not to have? Have yet to hear anything about refunds that will be given.

Refund information was received in an email from Teammakers shortly after this decision was made.

AEBison1998
09-30-2020, 03:35 AM
The 1918 flu was terrible in part because of who it killed. It was primarily the healthy because it would overstimulate the immune system. That generated so many orphans or single parent situations. It was really awful. There are a lot of differences between it and the current pandemic.
My grandmother also talked about young people who survived the 1918 flu but they were never the same. They were forever weak or had neurological issues the rest of their lives. (I suppose that is yet to be understood in the current pandemic.)
It was also seasonal and subsided in the summers. Then it all of a sudden mutated in early winter of the third year and the deaths dropped dramatically. Crazy. It is a reminder that we can't control as many things as we think we can.
(Courtesy of a history channel episode I watched several years ago.) :)

EC8CH
09-30-2020, 03:36 AM
This model predicted 2.2 million deaths in the US
https://www.hpnonline.com/infection-prevention/screening-surveillance/article/21130206/covid19-predicted-to-infect-81-of-us-population-cause-22-million-deaths-in-us

Us population in 1918 - 103 million
Us population in 2020 - 331 million


In the (unlikely) absence of any control measures or spontaneous changes in individual behavior,

So a model based on the unlikely assumptions of zero attempts at containment. Nice try. Early models had a range of 100k to 200k deaths. I can post the video of Trump and his constantly rising predictions too if you'd like.

SDbison
09-30-2020, 03:41 AM
Refund information was received in an email from Teammakers shortly after this decision was made. Nobody has contacted me yet. I have paid for several games for which the dates have gone by. Just not good business.

56BISON73
09-30-2020, 03:43 AM
After this gutless decision and assuming I get 4 home games next Spring, I will be requestimg NDSU refund the cost of tickets I already paid for 2 non -conference games. They can keep my teammaker donation, but the fact is why should I pay for games they decided not to have? Have yet to hear anything about refunds that will be given.

I know this will fall on deaf ears---Call them.

bisonfanette
09-30-2020, 05:58 AM
After this gutless decision and assuming I get 4 home games next Spring, I will be requestimg NDSU refund the cost of tickets I already paid for 2 non -conference games. They can keep my teammaker donation, but the fact is why should I pay for games they decided not to have? Have yet to hear anything about refunds that will be given.

I received a call from Derrek Lang Monday... The day before they announced no fans at this game.
I will be emailing him.... I’ve changed my mind about my donation. This announcement was inconsiderately late. Yes, I understand public health and others we’re probably forcing that decision. (Just a couple of thoughts: We didn’t know this Arkansas game would be part of the ticket package until AFTER we applied for tickets. Then the explanation came. Some season-ticket holder’s would not have spoken for tickets if they would’ve had that information.) Anyway, just disgusted in how this game was handled.
IMO, they will have more cases of Covid because far more people will be gathering, eating and drinking in confined areas.
Spreading out at the dome with masks on = safer. But if they’re going to change the risk level again, it’s a whole different ballgame.

bisonfanette
09-30-2020, 05:59 AM
After this gutless decision and assuming I get 4 home games next Spring, I will be requestimg NDSU refund the cost of tickets I already paid for 2 non -conference games. They can keep my teammaker donation, but the fact is why should I pay for games they decided not to have? Have yet to hear anything about refunds that will be given.

Go to gobison.com there is a form that you can fill out asking for a refund. There is a place where you can type in your message.

El_Chapo
09-30-2020, 06:17 AM
I received a call from Derrek Lang Monday... The day before they announced no fans at this game.
I will be emailing him.... I’ve changed my mind about my donation. This announcement was inconsiderately late. Yes, I understand public health and others we’re probably forcing that decision. (Just a couple of thoughts: We didn’t know this Arkansas game would be part of the ticket package until AFTER we applied for tickets. Then the explanation came. Some season-ticket holder’s would not have spoken for tickets if they would’ve had that information.) Anyway, just disgusted in how this game was handled.
IMO, they will have more cases of Covid because far more people will be gathering, eating and drinking in confined areas.
Spreading out at the dome with masks on = safer. But if they’re going to change the risk level again, it’s a whole different ballgame.

bravo. gutless. 3 days b4. wow

El_Chapo
09-30-2020, 01:23 PM
this thread got mentioned on 1100am this morning. haha they agreed with it

NDSU_grad
09-30-2020, 01:24 PM
Forever? Not sure where you’re getting that from?
We’re not going to eradicate a respiratory virus by ‘staying home’. You’ll see a pattern of shutting down, re-open, shutting down like Israel and some other countries are experiencing. IMO a vaccine isn’t going to be efficacious enough to satisfy our government overlords so what is the endgame?

DM05
09-30-2020, 01:28 PM
this thread got mentioned on 1100am this morning. haha they agreed with it

Seems like a big day for you, congrats.....and it only took starting 40 near identical threads to get mentioned on local AM radio.

bisonaudit
09-30-2020, 02:02 PM
We’re not going to eradicate a respiratory virus by ‘staying home’. You’ll see a pattern of shutting down, re-open, shutting down like Israel and some other countries are experiencing. IMO a vaccine isn’t going to be efficacious enough to satisfy our government overlords so what is the endgame?

I agree you’re not going to eradicate it. We’ve only ever eradicated one virus. Fortunately, that’s not the standard.

You just need a good enough vaccine to get and keep the transmission rate down in combination with other sustainable interventions and improved medical treatments. 50% efficacy is the stated threshold from “our government overlords.” Then some of the following or some others that work and really aren’t that disruptive in some combination: sanitize your hands, don’t shake hands, no Euro kisses (not going to miss that), $1 paper test kits, we should probably be wearing masks at large public gatherings already anyway (cities with professional sports franchises have 25% more flu per capita than those that don’t).

mtoutfitter
09-30-2020, 02:04 PM
Seems like a big day for you, congrats.....and it only took starting 40 near identical threads to get mentioned on local AM radio.

:judges::judges:......

heffray
09-30-2020, 02:23 PM
I agree you’re not going to eradicate it. We’ve only ever eradicated one virus. Fortunately, that’s not the standard.

You just need a good enough vaccine to get and keep the transmission rate down in combination with other sustainable interventions and improved medical treatments. 50% efficacy is the stated threshold from “our government overlords.” Then some of the following or some others that work and really aren’t that disruptive in some combination: sanitize your hands, don’t shake hands, no Euro kisses (not going to miss that), $1 paper test kits, we should probably be wearing masks at large public gatherings already anyway (cities with professional sports franchises have 25% more flu per capita than those that don’t).

THIS. is a fantastic post. #trustscience

El_Chapo
09-30-2020, 02:39 PM
Seems like a big day for you, congrats.....and it only took starting 40 near identical threads to get mentioned on local AM radio.

psh.. old hat. ESPN a couple times were enough for me :)


every media outlet should be crucifying this gutless decision!! 3 days away from game and the rug is pulled on US FANS!

NDSU had a Chance to give a big FFFFFFFFFFFFFF UUUUUUUUUUUUU to all the soft nancies out there in the world.

ByeSonBusiness
09-30-2020, 02:52 PM
psh.. old hat. ESPN a couple times were enough for me :)


every media outlet should be crucifying this gutless decision!! 3 days away from game and the rug is pulled on US FANS!

NDSU had a Chance to give a big FFFFFFFFFFFFFF UUUUUUUUUUUUU to all the soft nancies out there in the world.

I dont see how it would have been a big F.U. really, there are fans at the P5 games as far as I can tell. They've already given the "middle finger" you reference

El_Chapo
09-30-2020, 03:12 PM
I dont see how it would have been a big F.U. really, there are fans at the P5 games as far as I can tell. They've already given the "middle finger" you reference

Single Biggest INDOOR sporting event attended by fans.

NDSU_grad
09-30-2020, 03:28 PM
I agree you’re not going to eradicate it. We’ve only ever eradicated one virus. Fortunately, that’s not the standard.

You just need a good enough vaccine to get and keep the transmission rate down in combination with other sustainable interventions and improved medical treatments. 50% efficacy is the stated threshold from “our government overlords.” Then some of the following or some others that work and really aren’t that disruptive in some combination: sanitize your hands, don’t shake hands, no Euro kisses (not going to miss that), $1 paper test kits, we should probably be wearing masks at large public gatherings already anyway (cities with professional sports franchises have 25% more flu per capita than those that don’t).
My concern is what's an appropriate transmission rate. And if that's the goal wouldn't it make more sense to permanently ban most large public gatherings, i.e. sporting events (could still watch on tv), concerts, events such as Sturgis, etc.?

bri-dog
09-30-2020, 03:43 PM
My concern is what's an appropriate transmission rate. And if that's the goal wouldn't it make more sense to permanently ban most large public gatherings, i.e. sporting events (could still watch on tv), concerts, events such as Sturgis, etc.?

I hear Allison makes a nice 6-speed for the Duramax.

southcliffbison
09-30-2020, 03:55 PM
In my opinion, Matt Larsen is a spineless coward. Fuck him.

As long as ML is the AD, I see no reason to increase my donations; in fact, I might reduce them.

THEsocalledfan
09-30-2020, 03:56 PM
My concern is what's an appropriate transmission rate. And if that's the goal wouldn't it make more sense to permanently ban most large public gatherings, i.e. sporting events (could still watch on tv), concerts, events such as Sturgis, etc.?

This is 100% correct.

1. We have effective, scientifically proven treatments right now. (Leftist media seems to not want to admit how effective simple steroids have been.) And don't forget redemsivir. But this does not fit the fear porn narrative. (really like the fear porn line)
2. Minimal transmission is NOT needed to fully get back to a full normal......why? Eventually, we will have vaccines. Once those are fully available to all with no major inhibitions to access, transmission could still be significant. So, you hide in the basement when it is now a personal choice to not get the vaccine? That is complete hogwash.

I requested a full refund for Spring. I have zero confidence our fearless leaders will play in Spring (assuming they insist on minimal spread to have a season since FCS cannot function without fan revenue) and I want NDSU to realize how poorly they have managed this.

southcliffbison
09-30-2020, 04:00 PM
They based their entire decision on yellow level.

Yellow is such an appropriate color.

gizmo
09-30-2020, 04:18 PM
I agree. Now every bar with be packed instead.

Bars must follow social distancing and capacity guidelines so they will not be packed.

HerdBot
09-30-2020, 04:30 PM
Bars must follow social distancing and capacity guidelines so they will not be packed.

Yeah and every single bar will be at 100% of the limited capacity. In addition house parties will be packed. All they are doing is making the problem worse.

SDbison
09-30-2020, 05:16 PM
Bars must follow social distancing and capacity guidelines so they will not be packed. LOL.......have you been in a bar lately? Essentially no masks and social distancing is not followed regardless if capacity lowered.

daddy daycare
09-30-2020, 06:26 PM
As long as ML is the AD, I see no reason to increase my donations; in fact, I might reduce them.

So punish athletes because you're feelers are hurt. Sounds like the UND "Sooooo forever" take.

SDbison
09-30-2020, 06:33 PM
So punish athletes because you're feelers are hurt. Sounds like the UND "Sooooo forever" take. I paid my teammaker dues for this year, but this morning I requested money back for games not played. My teammakers dues are more costly than two tickets for a season so still supporting athletics. Some pressure has to be put on this admin to allow full attendance in the spring. If they think people will pay and not be able to attend they are badly mistaken.

daddy daycare
09-30-2020, 06:42 PM
I don't think anyone will have to worry about a full Fargodome in the spring regardless of restrictions or not.

THEsocalledfan
09-30-2020, 07:00 PM
I don't think anyone will have to worry about a full Fargodome in the spring regardless of restrictions or not.

Yeah, and these pud loser teams we play will not play anyway as it will save them money since their admins won't allow fans......

56BISON73
09-30-2020, 08:17 PM
Spring season will be nothing more than glorified spring ball. If they actually have a spring season.

Im going to TX fishing.

mnriverbison
09-30-2020, 08:22 PM
Here's a thought...watch at home. People going out is why we can't have nice things. Bitch and moan about leadership all you want. It's time for people to have some personal accountability and think about the greater good.

It's me, the man's man, who will lay my life on the line to protect my community, but I will not slow the spread of a disease which kills the old and weak. In a way they deserve it, for being old and weak. Cause human society is literally a bison herd.

HerdBot
09-30-2020, 08:50 PM
NDSU decided. No outside influence. Either ML or DB.

KC Bison
10-01-2020, 07:00 PM
I want the Bison to win Saturday....but hoping that Lance has a poor game.Its a joke that we are having a one game season. Call me selfish, I want this not to be his last game as a Bison. Ok, let it hit the fan.

ZHerd
10-01-2020, 07:08 PM
I want the Bison to win Saturday....but hoping that Lance has a poor game.Its a joke that we are having a one game season. Call me selfish, I want this not to be his last game as a Bison. Ok, let it hit the fan.

Nothing wrong with feeling that way. This would have been the best offense in NDSU history and we don’t get to see it

ndsubison1
10-01-2020, 07:12 PM
If Lance wants to be #1 pick he should stay another year

Bison Dan
10-01-2020, 07:18 PM
NDSU decided. No outside influence. Either ML or DB.

Then why did the mayor and CCH meet with Matt if not to put some pressure on him. Yes it was Matt's decision but he may not have had a choice.

EC8CH
10-01-2020, 07:45 PM
Infections are and will determine how open society and businesses are. It's like that for international travel, private business, and public organizations like NDSU. That's why what's best for business to keep infection rates under control. This isn't new information, it's been known since the beginning of the pandemic.

Hammerhead
10-01-2020, 07:46 PM
Many have wondered if players will be healthy enough in the fall if they play 8 games (plus playoffs for some teams) in the spring.



Spring season will be nothing more than glorified spring ball. If they actually have a spring season.

Im going to TX fishing.

MNLonghorn10
10-01-2020, 07:54 PM
If Lance wants to be #1 pick he should stay another year

Haha.

He gone

EC8CH
10-01-2020, 07:56 PM
Haha.

He gone

One Hundred Percent.

THEsocalledfan
10-02-2020, 01:19 PM
One Hundred Percent.

Agreed. Reality is the increase is pay to be #1 pick will never make up for the year of pay you lose. I just don't see any rationale argument to stay.

EC8CH
10-02-2020, 01:49 PM
Agreed. Reality is the increase is pay to be #1 pick will never make up for the year of pay you lose. I just don't see any rationale argument to stay.

The draft buzz is huge even compared to Wentz. Where there is that much smoke there has to be a fire in enough NFL team's interest in him that he's a lock for the 1st round and gone this year. This might be the craziest NDSU football event of the D1 era. That a redshirt sophomore QB would declare and be drafted in the 1st round. Is that more improbable than winning 8/9 Natties or 6 straight vs FBS? It's gotta be up there.

ndsubison1
10-02-2020, 01:57 PM
Haha.

He gone

Lance is likely gone, but Herbert turned down being the potential #1 pick to stay for Senior year. Crazier things have happened and not having a full season of games/tape this year certainly hurts Lance.

EC8CH
10-02-2020, 01:59 PM
Lance is likely gone, but Herbert turned down being the potential #1 pick to stay for Senior year. Crazier things have happened and not having a full season of games/tape this year certainly hurts Lance.

Anything's possibly. It'd put it at 95/5 at this point of him declaring this year. All it takes is one team to fall in love and 20 some are coming to Fargo tomorrow.

Bison bison
10-02-2020, 02:58 PM
I think Lance should get the hell out of Fargo as soon as the game is over.

I'm worried one of you whack jobs are going to go "I'm your number one fan" on the young man.

El_Chapo
10-02-2020, 02:58 PM
Herbert was at a PAC 12 school with donors with deep pockets.
I can give him a Free Don's Car wash and some Sandy's Donuts to stay though... LOL


besides #1 overall pick to #8 overall pick... still making $5-10Million a year.

GreenfieldBison
10-02-2020, 03:09 PM
Agreed. Reality is the increase is pay to be #1 pick will never make up for the year of pay you lose. I just don't see any rationale argument to stay.


Complete his degree? You know like, just in case...

JohnnyExtacy
10-02-2020, 03:52 PM
Lance is likely gone, but Herbert turned down being the potential #1 pick to stay for Senior year. Crazier things have happened and not having a full season of games/tape this year certainly hurts Lance.

Yea, and it cost him $12 million through 4 years and $7 million on day 1.

Lance would be dumb as hell to stay another year, and every rational football fine who's not watching through only green and gold knows it. He has a hell of a lot more to lose than to gain.

El_Chapo
10-02-2020, 04:13 PM
Complete his degree? You know like, just in case...

you can get a degree online FFS. and he's already in year 3 of school so 1 year of online will be easy (especially since most others are doing it too with covid)

GreenfieldBison
10-02-2020, 04:17 PM
you can get a degree online FFS. and he's already in year 3 of school so 1 year of online will be easy (especially since most others are doing it too with covid)


Gee, never thought of that.

tony
10-02-2020, 04:19 PM
you can get a degree online FFS. and he's already in year 3 of school so 1 year of online will be easy (especially since most others are doing it too with covid)

Heck, I wouldn't be shocked if he graduates this spring.

But if he doesn't, a strategic communications degree would be doable online pretty easily, you'd think.

JMB
10-02-2020, 05:25 PM
Lance is likely gone, but Herbert turned down being the potential #1 pick to stay for Senior year. Crazier things have happened and not having a full season of games/tape this year certainly hurts Lance.

Maybe... His name is do big right now I think he may be fine riding the wave. Its not unheard of for GM's and owners to get caught up on hype. I mean Carson, didn't have a year of tape and it worked out ok for his draft stock.

Personally, (and this isn't meant as a shot at the kid) I am shocked that he is getting as much hype as he is. I hope he slays it on Saturday and goes off to be drafted and earns 1 Bazillion dollars.

GreenfieldBison
10-02-2020, 05:33 PM
Maybe... His name is do big right now I think he may be fine riding the wave. Its not unheard of for GM's and owners to get caught up on hype. I mean Carson, didn't have a year of tape and it worked out ok for his draft stock.

Personally, (and this isn't meant as a shot at the kid) I am shocked that he is getting as much hype as he is. I hope he slays it on Saturday and goes off to be drafted and earns 1 Bazillion dollars.

Is a Bazillion a multiple of a Gazillion or is it the other way around?

EC8CH
10-02-2020, 05:35 PM
Personally, (and this isn't meant as a shot at the kid) I am shocked that he is getting as much hype as he is.

It is crazy. An FCS sophomore with only 16 starts who doesn't put up video game numbers because of the style of offense... Beside no picks and NDSU, what else is there to fan the hype flames above what scouts see in his tape and physical talent? It does seem crazy he's getting this much hype so early, but here we are.

JMB
10-02-2020, 06:26 PM
Is a Bazillion a multiple of a Gazillion or is it the other way around?

I need to look but if I remember it takes 146 Bazillions to make a Gazillion.

As they say, players make Bazillions, the people who sign the players checks make Bazillions.

El_Chapo
10-02-2020, 07:42 PM
SURE WISH I WAS GOING TO FARGO TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

guess I'll take my oil money elsewhere.

ndsubison1
10-02-2020, 09:44 PM
Maybe... His name is do big right now I think he may be fine riding the wave. Its not unheard of for GM's and owners to get caught up on hype. I mean Carson, didn't have a year of tape and it worked out ok for his draft stock.

Personally, (and this isn't meant as a shot at the kid) I am shocked that he is getting as much hype as he is. I hope he slays it on Saturday and goes off to be drafted and earns 1 Bazillion dollars.

Carson was a redshirt senior. Trey is missing a full redshirt sophomore season

pucknut9
10-02-2020, 09:48 PM
I doubt anywhere will be packed for what is going to amount to a scrimmage.

They will be packed. Folks are hungry for some Bizon football regardless the opponent

Kevin
10-02-2020, 11:00 PM
IDK what forum or thread to even post this in but Izzo tweeted that Southern Utah is leaving the Big Sky to join the WAC. The WAC is still a thing? link to tweet: https://twitter.com/SkylineSportsMT/status/1312142232883875841

lakes???

Bisonwinagn
10-02-2020, 11:35 PM
IDK what forum or thread to even post this in but Izzo tweeted that Southern Utah is leaving the Big Sky to join the WAC. The WAC is still a thing? link to tweet: https://twitter.com/SkylineSportsMT/status/1312142232883875841

lakes???

Must be other sports. There is no WAC in football.

Kevin
10-02-2020, 11:48 PM
Must be other sports. There is no WAC in football.

Izzo's tweet says "and a new football league" so that'd make sense.

Hammersmith
10-03-2020, 03:50 PM
Izzo's tweet says "and a new football league" so that'd make sense.

The story is still only coming from a single reporter/blogger. It may be true, we don't know yet, but we haven't had any secondary confirmation.

The WAC has repeatedly said it wants to add FCS football with 8-10 football-playing members. It currently only has/will have two: Tarleton State and Dixie State. Assorted rumors have them getting up to as many as seven fairly quickly(SUU switches, UTRGV & Grand Canyon add FB, NMSU drops down from FBS, West Texas A&M moves up from DII). Some of those rumors are more likely than others(WTAMU likely; NMSU less so).

El_Chapo
10-03-2020, 04:00 PM
Sure wish I was pounding beers with friends and reminiscing with others IN THE WEST LOT TAILGATING RIGHT NOW!!

HerdBot
10-03-2020, 05:10 PM
Sure wish I was pounding beers with friends and reminiscing with others IN THE WEST LOT TAILGATING RIGHT NOW!!

This. I'll have fun at the bar but not the same

1978Bison
10-03-2020, 06:36 PM
Scott Hennen
@scotthennen
I hear @NDSU
was bullied into this decision. The Fargo Cass Public Health folks have way too much power, unelected power. And it has nothing to do with the change to yellow recommendations.

Someone’s lying to us?! Fans were not allowed to “protect the players”? To protect the players, all that had to be done, was block off the first 8 rows, and spread the fans out, as was done at Larks baseball. Medora musical and require masks. Also, at first it was social distance 6 ft OR wear a mask if 6 ft is not possible. Now, you have to socially distance AND wear mask! Close contact was 15 minutes, now close contact is being anywhere is the same building for any amount of time. What’s the truth!

El_Chapo
10-03-2020, 07:04 PM
Someone’s lying to us?! Fans were not allowed to “protect the players”? To protect the players, all that had to be done, was block off the first 8 rows, and spread the fans out, as was done at Larks baseball. Medora musical and require masks. Also, at first it was social distance 6 ft OR wear a mask if 6 ft is not possible. Now, you have to socially distance AND wear mask! Close contact was 15 minutes, now close contact is being anywhere is the same building for any amount of time. What’s the truth!

yea. lots of mixed messages on this. pathetic & gutless.

scottietohottie
10-03-2020, 10:22 PM
How can some of this debacle not be pinned on Matt Larsen? Can't say I wasn't expecting this outcome. How could ndsu think a one game season would be a good idea? That's Matt. Supposed to be looking towards the future of bison athletics not set up a one game NFL draft expo that failed horribly. Ruined a kids draft stock and got punched in the gut to boot. Really thinking forward. Like someone else said most outcomes of this game weren't going to be good. Trey would have had to play lights out for anything positive to come of this. What a joke. Good going Matt you did exactly what you where hired to prevent. Stay safe.

JMB
10-03-2020, 10:24 PM
How can some of this debacle not be pinned on Matt Larsen? Can't say I wasn't expecting this outcome. How could ndsu think a one game season would be a good idea? That's Matt. Supposed to be looking towards the future of bison athletics not set up a one game NFL draft expo that failed horribly. Ruined a kids draft stock and got punched in the gut to boot. Really thinking forward. Like someone else said most outcomes of this game weren't going to be good. Trey would have had to play lights out for anything positive to come of this. What a joke. Good going Matt you did exactly what you where hired to prevent. Stay safe.

Scotty take a deep breath.... they got extra practice in for a game that probably doesn't even count...

scottietohottie
10-03-2020, 10:25 PM
Scotty take a deep breath.... they got extra practice in for a game that probably doesn't even count...

Proof is in the pudding

scottietohottie
10-03-2020, 10:26 PM
Scotty take a deep breath.... they got extra practice in for a game that probably doesn't even count...

They put more time into the Pregame bullshit then game prep. That comes from the top. And not the head coach. Above that.

BisonLaw
10-03-2020, 10:41 PM
How can some of this debacle not be pinned on Matt Larsen? Can't say I wasn't expecting this outcome. How could ndsu think a one game season would be a good idea? That's Matt. Supposed to be looking towards the future of bison athletics not set up a one game NFL draft expo that failed horribly. Ruined a kids draft stock and got punched in the gut to boot. Really thinking forward. Like someone else said most outcomes of this game weren't going to be good. Trey would have had to play lights out for anything positive to come of this. What a joke. Good going Matt you did exactly what you where hired to prevent. Stay safe.

Absolutely starts with Matt Larsen. Today was pathetic. Absolutely fucking pathetic. Dead atmosphere. Terrible performance. Political bullshit. Figure it out.

BisonLaw
10-03-2020, 10:42 PM
They put more time into the Pregame bullshit then game prep. That comes from the top. And not the head coach. Above that.


Absolutely agreed. Someone needs to ask ML the hard questions, pathetic.

NDSUSR
10-03-2020, 11:10 PM
How can some of this debacle not be pinned on Matt Larsen? Can't say I wasn't expecting this outcome. How could ndsu think a one game season would be a good idea? That's Matt. Supposed to be looking towards the future of bison athletics not set up a one game NFL draft expo that failed horribly. Ruined a kids draft stock and got punched in the gut to boot. Really thinking forward. Like someone else said most outcomes of this game weren't going to be good. Trey would have had to play lights out for anything positive to come of this. What a joke. Good going Matt you did exactly what you where hired to prevent. Stay safe.

The only positives are the win, the streak and Road Warriors streak. Thats it.
The negatives are that Lance just pissed down his leg. First round = LOL.

southcliffbison
10-04-2020, 12:07 AM
The only positives are the win, the streak and Road Warriors streak. Thats it.
The negatives are that Lance just pissed down his leg. First round = LOL.

Matt Larsen, you just cost Trey Lance a couple of million dollars. Sleep well.

HerdBot
10-04-2020, 12:13 AM
ML has been solid but this decision was stupid. If I get covid-19, it will be because I was at a packed bar that was probably less safe than the dome

Shit Central Arkansas brought 50 fans with them but us hardcore Bison fans who have probably paid millions in donations get to watch from home. Fuck off ML

And then you got the seniors who ended up playing in at atmosphere worse than a spring game. Again fuck off ML

Grizzled
10-04-2020, 12:15 AM
Matt Larsen, you just cost Trey Lance a couple of million dollars. Sleep well.

Trey had a little part in that as well.

El_Chapo
10-04-2020, 12:20 AM
Trey had a little part in that as well.

and Christian Watson dropping 2 easy balls 1 for a 50+ TD

ndsubison1
10-04-2020, 12:20 AM
The only positives are the win, the streak and Road Warriors streak. Thats it.
The negatives are that Lance just pissed down his leg. First round = LOL.

Lance is not ready for the big time. He needs another year. I know its one game, but not a lot of tape hurts him. He can be #1 pick in 2022

2011BisonAlumni
10-04-2020, 12:22 AM
Matt Larsen, you just cost Trey Lance a couple of million dollars. Sleep well.

Lol....just shut the fuck up you ignorant redneck

ML didn’t play the game today. Trey did. If he can’t blow out the doors on Central Arkansas he DEFINITELY isn’t ready for the NFL.

ML did Lance a favor IMO.

GreenfieldBison
10-04-2020, 12:27 AM
ML has been solid but this decision was stupid. If I get covid-19, it will be because I was at a packed bar that was probably less safe than the dome

Shit Central Arkansas brought 50 fans with them but us hardcore Bison fans who have probably paid millions in donations get to watch from home. Fuck off ML

And then you got the seniors who ended up playing in at atmosphere worse than a spring game. Again fuck off ML

It was your decision to go to someplace other than your own domicile. Jus’ sayin’.

And, you paid MILLIONS in donations? What do you do?

El_Chapo
10-04-2020, 12:34 AM
Lol....just shut the fuck up you ignorant redneck

ML didn’t play the game today. Trey did. If he can’t blow out the doors on Central Arkansas he DEFINITELY isn’t ready for the NFL.

ML did Lance a favor IMO.

Actually Matt Larsen had UCA, SFA and Jacksonville State lined up but didn't pull the trigger. 3 games wouldve helped Trey alot more than 1

southcliffbison
10-04-2020, 12:34 AM
Lol....just shut the fuck up you ignorant redneck

ML didn’t play the game today. Trey did. If he can’t blow out the doors on Central Arkansas he DEFINITELY isn’t ready for the NFL.

ML did Lance a favor IMO.

Ignorant redneck? I'm not from Mississippi. ML put Trey and the whole team in an unenviable situation. This was game 4 for CA, game 1 for the Bison if you've been paying attention. Unless TL played lights out (he didn't), his draft stock would lower and no one is arguing that. We're on the same page, Dipshit; Trey's not ready and I, too, wish he would stay thru the spring season...….so you STFU.

southcliffbison
10-04-2020, 12:42 AM
Actually Matt Larsen had UCA, SFA and Jacksonville State lined up but didn't pull the trigger. 3 games wouldve helped Trey alot more than 1

Chapo, we all agree that 3 games would have helped; but Bresciani is the asshole in the Hallmark movie, not Larsen. ML is like Himmler answering to the Fuhrer.

El_Chapo
10-04-2020, 01:00 AM
Chapo, we all agree that 3 games would have helped; but Bresciani is the asshole in the Hallmark movie, not Larsen. ML is like Himmler answering to the Fuhrer.

nope you got it backwards. Heck Larson was down in Florida back in March/April when all of this was going on with his east coast buddies.

56BISON73
10-04-2020, 01:49 AM
Matt Larsen, you just cost Trey Lance a couple of million dollars. Sleep well.

ML had nothing to do with TLs poor performance. Thats all on TL. But its also not surprising when this was game one for us and game 4 for them.
Their D was amped up and took it to us. This shows the difference between game speed and practice speed.

steelbison
10-04-2020, 01:49 AM
People are so clueless. NDSU wanted fans the City of Fargo said no. They actually own the FARGODOME. Spoke with an NDSU official. It was not their call. They were heartbroken the seniors didn’t get fans. Plus NDSU lost money on this game without fans. So everyone pleas quit with this BS


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scottietohottie
10-04-2020, 02:00 AM
People are so clueless. NDSU wanted fans the City of Fargo said no. They actually own the FARGODOME. Spoke with an NDSU official. It was not their call. They were heartbroken the seniors didn’t get fans. Plus NDSU lost money on this game without fans. So everyone pleas quit with this BS


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So why did the city of Fargo let the dean stand on the sidelines. No business being there. Why didn't the fans social distance? It was so stupid. Take precautions but just half ass. Bull shit.

ndsubison1
10-04-2020, 02:41 AM
The fans were packed in the same sections.

56BISON73
10-04-2020, 02:45 AM
The fans were packed in the same sections.

I saw that also. Too funny.

El_Chapo
10-04-2020, 03:13 AM
hyprocrisy

steel - I've heard it was NDSU decision, others say the City. Sounds like collusion to me , they let half of us think 1 or the other and both take blame equally with no 1 taking all the blunt force

HerdBot
10-04-2020, 03:04 PM
The fans were packed in the same sections.

Yep. Way to social distance. That is dumb AF

HerdBot
10-04-2020, 03:08 PM
How much revenue did we lose due to this dumb decision?

ByeSonBusiness
10-04-2020, 03:15 PM
and Christian Watson dropping 2 easy balls 1 for a 50+ TD

Believe it or not, scouts don't generally blame the quarterback for receivers dropping well thrown balls.

El_Chapo
10-04-2020, 07:26 PM
How much revenue did we lose due to this dumb decision?

Star this thread... its gonna be looked back on for years

CivilBison96
10-04-2020, 07:43 PM
Question is... (and maybe answered in another thread or maybe this one as I skimmed through), did they let Roadwarrior in to continue the streak?

MAKBison
10-04-2020, 07:44 PM
Three words.....yes

56BISON73
10-04-2020, 07:44 PM
Question is... (and maybe answered in another thread or maybe this one as I skimmed through), did they let Roadwarrior in to continue the streak?

Yes as they should have.

El_Chapo
11-02-2021, 01:42 AM
bye Matt Larsen

heckler
11-02-2021, 04:00 AM
bye Matt Larsen

One can only hope

Thomas96
11-02-2021, 01:39 PM
bye Matt Larsen

your an idiot

El_Chapo
11-02-2021, 01:45 PM
we found the BURNER!! "you're" LOL :rofl:

makes sense if you search his posts..

scottietohottie
11-02-2021, 01:47 PM
your an idiot

You're. I call you.

Thomas96
11-02-2021, 01:55 PM
we found the BURNER!! "you're" LOL :rofl:

makes sense if you search his posts..

Only speaking down to the reader.