The political stuff is getting out of hand

[admin]

I should have nipped it in the bud on the COVID-19 thread after about the fourth post or something (or not started that thread at all.)

So.... I've created a Political forum that you have to be a member of a group to interact with. It'll be at the bottom (I hope.)

To get access to this part of the forum, reply to this thread.

I'm moving three threads there after I get this figured out:



COVID-19
Reporters arrested in MSP (can't remember the thread title)
You can't make this up


Do NOT try to politicize Random Thoughts or TIL. That is for fun stuff. And do not take your beefs to other threads.

[scottietohottie]

I have lots of beef and it's selling like hot cakes right now! Been contacted everyday this week by someone new. I won't take it to other threads got it out of my system.

[Rockbear99]

sign me up. I got popcorn. lol

[tony]

sign me up. I got popcorn. lol

OK, I'll get you signed up after the end of day :)

[No_Skill]

I can't not look. Sign me up. :D

[El_Chapo]

lets get READY to RUUUUMMMBLE!!! I'm In.

(perfect timing for 4th of July Tony!) # AMERICA !!

[TransAmBison]

I'm in...but doubt I'll post in them anymore. Way too much "intelligence" in those threads already.

[Rock]

Will Road be there?

[1998braves64]

I'm always down to watching trainwrecks. Sign me up but I won't be posting anything political for most part.

Sent from my Pixel 3a XL on a bullet train from Hillsboro.

[roadwarrior]

Will Road be there?

No. I'm already in the tailgating line in Eugene.

[Bison Loaf]

I'm out.

People tend to blindly follow my views and lead on everything. I just don't think I could handle that kind of responsibility.

[scottietohottie]

I'm out.

People tend to blindly follow my views and lead on everything. I just don't think I could handle that kind of responsibility.

But you replied so in on a technicality. :)

[56BISON73]

https://i.imgur.com/h2TFfAY.jpg

[Kevin]

Let me in.

People must know the truth of the Reptilian menace.

[IzzyFlexion]

My anxiety has a gun to my head......….so...…..in please.

[Bison Loaf]

But you replied so in on a technicality. :)

I don't think that's how this works, scottie, otherwise I've been duped again! ;)

But honestly, I'm out. Everyone will just have to subscribe to my monthly political newsletter at www.bisonloaf.com (if they haven't already pulled it down for being too subversive) in order to continue to get my partisan hot takes. Sorry.

[TransAmBison]

I don't think that's how this works, scottie, otherwise I've been duped again! ;)

But honestly, I'm out. Everyone will just have to subscribe to my monthly political newsletter at www.bisonloaf.com (if they haven't already pulled it down for being too subversive) in order to continue to get my partisan hot takes. Sorry.As a proud member of the Crunchy Cheetos for All, I will never click on your link.

[El_Chapo]

So is this the thread? awesome. great start. compelling and rich.

[Bison Loaf]

So is this the thread? awesome. great start. compelling and rich.

Hey, wait a minute. Are you actually expecting the new political threads to be compelling and rich? :rofl:

[HerdBot]

Bisonville is having the same problem ESPN is having. No content. I like the idea of the political forum to keep it separate

[56BISON73]

As a proud member of the Crunchy Cheetos for All, I will never click on your link.

Didnt you mean Crusty?

[Bison bison]

I just want to thank you, Mr. Elf. For allowing us to have the conversations to this point.

I've enjoyed hearing others perspectives and opinions. I think it's been pretty civil and enriching.

[EC8CH]

https://i.imgur.com/goD3Acj.gif?noredirect

Sign me up.

[wagsabison]

It’s been mostly civil. Everyone has different views on things and it’s something that has helped pass the time.


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[Bisonguy]

I love watching train wrecks, I’m in.

[TransAmBison]

Didnt you mean Crusty?

Yep...my bad

[ndsubison1]

Sign me up. We'll see how it goes.

[admin]

Done - I tested it on a test user (AdmiralAckbar) so I think it'll work. Here's who got added to the political group:

IzzyFlexion
Kevin
56BISON73
1998Braves64
TransAmBison
rockbear99
No_Skill
El_Chapo
EC8CH
Bison bison
wagsabison
ndsubison1
Herdbot

If I missed you or this doesn't work, let me know.

Politics should be it's own category at the bottom.

[scottietohottie]

Oh I want in.

[admin]

Oh I want in.

You are in... if it worked.

[JMB]

Why not? Add me in. Its interesting to see people's perspectives.

[Hansel]

sign me up

[tony]

sign me up

Done.......

[runtheoption]

I got a lot of problems with you people! And now you're gonna hear about it!

I'm in.

[Bison 4 Life]

Done - I tested it on a test user (AdmiralAckbar) so I think it'll work. Here's who got added to the political group:

IzzyFlexion
Kevin
56BISON73
1998Braves64
TransAmBison
rockbear99
No_Skill
El_Chapo
EC8CH
Bison bison
wagsabison
ndsubison1
Herdbot

If I missed you or this doesn't work, let me know.

Politics should be it's own category at the bottom.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/zac5EvG19YCVa/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47cf61a0f99810b598d4fe7c3756a0 e35f3efa7959&rid=giphy.gif

[roadwarrior]

My intelligence level will drop without it. Add me please.

[tony]

Why not? Add me in. Its interesting to see people's perspectives.

I didn't see this post before so you are in now and so is road and Bison 4 Life (nice try at hiding though, B4L).

[Grizzled]

Add me please

[Kevin]

I can view but not post.

[Bisonguy]

I didn't see this post before so you are in now and so is road and Bison 4 Life (nice try at hiding though, B4L).


Sign me up!





I can view but not post.

There's a reason for that.

[runtheoption]

I got a lot of problems with you people! And now you're gonna hear about it!

I'm in.


I didn't see this post before so you are in now and so is road and Bison 4 Life (nice try at hiding though, B4L).

Hey! Stop playing with the wild animals in your yard and add me.

[Bisman]

Please add me to the thread.

[Bison Chief]

I was kind of enjoying those threads. I'd like to lurk in this new thread also if i can make the list, please.

[oldmantutters]

Not sure why I'm doing this, but sign me up.

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[Kevin]

tony pls fix so i can post i have very important views to force on others while being reinforced by my fellow teambros who think exactly as i do because everything in this world is blue or red.

thx

[Hammerhead]

I would like to have access to the political forum.

[tony]

tony pls fix so i can post i have very important views to force on others while being reinforced by my fellow teambros who think exactly as i do because everything in this world is blue or red.

thx

OK, it wasn't just you. Remember, I detest you all equally.

I believe I've fixed it.

[tony]

I believe I have added everybody now. And I successfully posted.

So if somebody else could, um, do a test post and let me know if it works, that would be, ahh, great. <= read in Lumbergh voice.

[EC8CH]

I believe I have added everybody now. And I successfully posted.

So if somebody else could, um, do a test post and let me know if it works, that would be, ahh, great. <= read in Lumbergh voice.

Done.

I could burn that forum to the ground <= read in Milton voice.

[tony]

Done.

I'm could burn that forum to the ground <= read in Milton voice.

Thanks!

10char

[gavin2126]

It’s usually highly informative or highly entertaining, I’d like to continue reading in the new forum.


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[OrygunBison]

Count me in please.

[heffray]

Fine. I’ll do it.

[admin]

added heffray, OrygunBison, gavin2126

[NDSU1980]

It will be like going by a car wreck, you just have to look. No doubt there wouldn't be much there I want to read, but like I said, you look any way.

[td577]

I don't have much to say but when I do, people should listen. Sign me up.

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[3Putt]

Please add me.

[Till]

Please add me as well.

[NDGooch]

Please add me. Thank you!

[tony]

I'll be doing this once a day - I'll let you know.

[SDbison]

Please add me.......I will post my views, but refrain from personal attacks as long as the other side does the same.

[El_Chapo]

Question. Once we are in... can we get
back out of the quicksand?

[bisonroom25]

i would like to be added pls :-)
b-i-s-o-n-r-o-o-m-2-5

[Kevin]

Question. Once we are in... can we get
back out of the quicksand?

Blood in, blood out.

[bisonfanette]

I am seriously too busy with puppies, but at 2 o’clock in the morning I might like some occasional entertainment please. Thank you!!!

[tony]

Addeed:

NDSU1980
td577
3Putt
Till
NDGooch
SDbison
bisonroom25
bisonfanette

Or at least I think I did. Let me know if there are any problems.

[GradBison]

This a lurker's nightmare... please add me.

[JMB]

I wonder how long until all threads end up in the political forum... :)

"The coaches are stupid for running Lance that much! They are almost as stupid as Peloisi/Trump/Obama/Bush/Lincoln"

[Jay]

I would like access. Thanks.

[MNLonghorn10]

Access please

[THEsocalledfan]

oh, hell, bp has been too low. Give me access.

[Kevin]

Tony I think you should set the description in the subforum to Abandon all hope ye who enter here.

Also I think you should make me a mod so I can reword people's posts to start more drama.

Thanks

[TransAmBison]

I am a smelly pirate hooker.You don't need to be a mod to have the power to reword posts.

[admin]

Added:

GradBison
Jay
MNLonghorn10
THEsocalledfan

[Hammerhead]

I would like to be added. Please and thank you.

[admin]

I would like to be added. Please and thank you.

It has been done.

[NFH Schlüssel]

After much "hin und her", I've decided to ask to be included.

[NDSUSR]

Oddly enough. I have no desire. Im good.

[tjamz]

I should have nipped it in the bud on the COVID-19 thread after about the fourth post or something (or not started that thread at all.)

So.... I've created a Political forum that you have to be a member of a group to interact with. It'll be at the bottom (I hope.)

To get access to this part of the forum, reply to this thread.

I'm moving three threads there after I get this figured out:



COVID-19
Reporters arrested in MSP (can't remember the thread title)
You can't make this up


Do NOT try to politicize Random Thoughts or TIL. That is for fun stuff. And do not take your beefs to other threads.

Please allow me access to that part of the forum. Thanks!

[Kevin]

Please allow me access to that part of the forum. Thanks!

No.

tencharactersisstupid

[admin]

Added:

NFH Schlüssel
tjamz

[Hammerhead]

Where is the political board? I'm not finding it anywhere.

[JMB]

Where is the political board? I'm not finding it anywhere.

The first rule of political board, is you don't talk about the political board.

[heffray]

The first rule of political board, is you don't talk about the political board.

And the second rule?

[admin]

Where is the political board? I'm not finding it anywhere.

I didn't have you marked for the board... should be on the bottom for you now.

[admin]

And the second rule?

6 drink minimum.

[bisonaudit]

6 drink minimum.

So that’s what my problem has been this whole time? Why didn’t any of you say anything until now?! I thought we were friends!

[heffray]

So that’s what my problem has been this whole time? Why didn’t any of you say anything until now?! I thought we were friends!

See first rule.

[Hammerhead]

I didn't have you marked for the board... should be on the bottom for you now.

I'm still not seeing it anywhere. I've looked in the watering hole area and the suggestions area and don't see anything new on the bottom.

[admin]

I'm still not seeing it anywhere. I've looked in the watering hole area and the suggestions area and don't see anything new on the bottom.

It'd be a lot funnier if I was doing this to you on purpose. But I wasn't.

I just checked and you weren't marked for the political board.

[Hammerhead]

It'd be a lot funnier if I was doing this to you on purpose. But I wasn't.

I just checked and you weren't marked for the political board.

It's all good. :)

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/61515817/mongo-only-pawn-in-game-of-life.jpg

[Kevin]

It's all good. :)

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/61515817/mongo-only-pawn-in-game-of-life.jpg

Think so? Come back in 24 hours after reading our threads in the 4th circle of hell we call the political forum and see how you feel.

Abandon. All. Hope.

[abc123]

Need to see what goes on behind close doors....add me please.

[El_Chapo]

Need to see what goes on behind close doors....add me please.

its a trap!!!!

[Winterborn]

I would like to be added as well.

[EC8CH]

Need to see what goes on behind close doors....add me please.

You'll never look at your mother the same way again.

[Herd80]

Me too...please

[totoinfl]

Me too...please

Ok, let's see if my 20+ years of Florida Sun Rotted Brain can follow the lofty ideals of the threads...let me in.

[admin]

Added: abc123, Winterborn, herd80, and totoinfl <= ah, I get the user name now.

[Grizzled]

I would like to be added please.

[LikeMothers]

Count me in.

[admin]

Added grizzled and LikeMothers.

[Grizzled]

Thank you........I think

[Hammerhead]

It'd be a lot funnier if I was doing this to you on purpose. But I wasn't.

I just checked and you weren't marked for the political board.

I still don't see the political board.

[admin]

I still don't see the political board.

OK, I just changed it again. I think it was failing to save because the date entered for you birthday was not a valid date (I'm going to see if I can make that an optional field, btw, I don't like people giving out their personal information) - in the meantime, I would put an inaccurate date in there. 4-20-1969 is nice.

[Hammerhead]

OK, I just changed it again. I think it was failing to save because the date entered for you birthday was not a valid date (I'm going to see if I can make that an optional field, btw, I don't like people giving out their personal information) - in the meantime, I would put an inaccurate date in there. 4-20-1969 is nice.

I added a birthdate that is in the same year as my actual birthdate. Like you, I try to give out slightly incorrect dates so my actual DOB isn't out there everywhere, but I can still get free stuff from the DQ Blizzard fan club and stuff like that.

Edit: I can access the political threads now. :)

[AKBison]

Better throw me in as well....

[AKBison]

Bump for the elf....

[HuskerBizon]

i will grab my popcorn, count me in

[admin]

i will grab my popcorn, count me in

I added you and westnodak to the political board.

May God have mercy on your souls.

[heffray]

I added you and westnodak to the political board.

May God have mercy on your souls.

I would like now to be removed from the political forum. Thanks.

[EC8CH]

I would like now to be removed from the political forum. Thanks.

One does not just leave the political forum...

[Kevin]

I would like now to be removed from the political forum. Thanks.

Would you like me to ban him from your atheism thread?

[heffray]

Would you like me to ban him from your atheism thread?

Na. Let the people have what they want.

[heffray]

I would like now to be removed from the political forum. Thanks.

Bump for the admin. In case you thought I was kidding. Please remove me. Thanks.

[tony]

Bump for the admin. In case you thought I was kidding. Please remove me. Thanks.

I'll take care of it pretty soon.

[NDSUSR]

Bump for the admin. In case you thought I was kidding. Please remove me. Thanks.

Looks like I made a good call when I opted out. Welcome back to a more normal experience.

[heffray]

Looks like I made a good call when I opted out. Welcome back to a more normal experience.

There are very small group of people who post here on political topics who have no interest in healthy, productive, honest, open-minded dialogue, and generally their posts bring out the worst in people (of which I’m no exception). Until all of these people change or are removed, I won’t be involved.

[oldmantutters]

There are very small group of people who post here on political topics who have no interest in healthy, productive, honest, open-minded dialogue, and generally their posts bring out the worst in people (of which I’m no exception). Until all of these people change or are removed, I won’t be involved.Wanna spice up the night and name names?

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[EC8CH]

Wanna spice up the night and name names?


https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/09/name.gif

[heffray]

Wanna spice up the night and name names?

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No interest whatsoever.

[56BISON73]

There are very small group of people who post here on political topics who have no interest in healthy, productive, honest, open-minded dialogue, and generally their posts bring out the worst in people (of which I’m no exception). Until all of these people change or are removed, I won’t be involved.

Bingo...........

[bisonaudit]

Bingo...........

classic. .

[56BISON73]

classic. .

Bingo..............

[TransAmBison]

No interest whatsoever.So closed-minded you are (use Yoda voice).

Your first mistake was seeking wisdom on bisonville. Classic blunder.

[gotts]

So closed-minded you are (use Yoda voice).

Your first mistake was seeking wisdom on bisonville. Classic blunder.

I've never believed in my signature more than I do present day.

[heffray]

So closed-minded you are (use Yoda voice).

Your first mistake was seeking wisdom on bisonville. Classic blunder.

I joined the political board to hopefully have aforementioned fruitful discussion on politics, not seek wisdom. THAT was clearly a naive blunder, and as it relates to most of my blunders, yes, probably classic because of the frequency of my naive hope for humanity in general.

So... lemme summup... yes yes, you’re very smart, shut up. ;)

[Kevin]

I joined the political board to hopefully have aforementioned fruitful discussion on politics, not seek wisdom. THAT was clearly a naive blunder, and as it relates to most of my blunders, yes, probably classic because of the frequency of my naive hope for humanity in general.

So... lemme summup... yes yes, you’re very smart, shut up. ;)

No one likes a quitter, heffy.

Those who stay will be champions.

[admin]

I joined the political board to hopefully have aforementioned fruitful discussion on politics, not seek wisdom. THAT was clearly a naive blunder, and as it relates to most of my blunders, yes, probably classic because of the frequency of my naive hope for humanity in general.

So... lemme summup... yes yes, you’re very smart, shut up. ;)

I just took you off the list.

And, for the people who are there: Do not drag that crap onto the main board any more.

[TransAmBison]

I joined the political board to hopefully have aforementioned fruitful discussion on politics, not seek wisdom. THAT was clearly a naive blunder, and as it relates to most of my blunders, yes, probably classic because of the frequency of my naive hope for humanity in general.

So... lemme summup... yes yes, you’re very smart, shut up. ;)Knowledge is power. I have little of both (must be why I'm here). So I read...and file things back to use at a later date...probably just to poke fun of, but that is what I do.

[Kevin]

I just took you off the list.

And, for the people who are there: Do not drag that crap onto the main board any more.

Ayy, Tone. What forum can I start a "I'm a quitter" thread for Heffy to quit future endeavors in?

We'll be transitioning the Atheism thread to EC8H8HHEC's ownership later this evening.

[TransAmBison]

Ayy, Tone. What forum can I start a "I'm a quitter" thread for Heffy to quit future endeavors in?

We'll be transitioning the Atheism thread to EC8H8HHEC's ownership later this evening.Man I love a good thread drift on threads that need to be drifted. I award you one point.

[heffray]

Man I love a good thread drift on threads that need to be drifted. I award you one point.

This is not the thread drift we need right now, but it’s what we deserve.

[EC8CH]

Ayy, Tone. What forum can I start a "I'm a quitter" thread for Heffy to quit future endeavors in?

We'll be transitioning the Atheism thread to EC8H8HHEC's ownership later this evening.

Gets your goat sacrifices ready boys!!!!

[heffray]

Ayy, Tone. What forum can I start a "I'm a quitter" thread for Heffy to quit future endeavors in?

We'll be transitioning the Atheism thread to EC8H8HHEC's ownership later this evening.

It will be in good hands then...

Also, what should be posted in the “I’m a Quitter” thread? Would it just be for me to post every time I quit something? Or will it be for all people to post when they quit things, and I’m the moderator? Will it be all current and future quitting events, or will past quitting events be tracked? Will Bisman be allowed to post?

So many questions...

[Kevin]

It will be in good hands then...

Also, what should be posted in the “I’m a Quitter” thread? Would it just be for me to post every time I quit something? Or will it be for all people to post when they quit things, and I’m the moderator? Will it be all current and future quitting events, or will past quitting events be tracked? Will Bisman be allowed to post?

So many questions...

It's mostly a place for you to make a show of no longer participating in something.

You know, as opposed to just not reading the forum anymore.

Quietly.

Without making a scene.

It can be whatever u want. Red Team/Blue Team debates. Fast pitch softball. Whatever no longer floats ur boat.

[TransAmBison]

It will be in good hands then...

Also, what should be posted in the “I’m a Quitter” thread? Would it just be for me to post every time I quit something? Or will it be for all people to post when they quit things, and I’m the moderator? Will it be all current and future quitting events, or will past quitting events be tracked? Will Bisman be allowed to post?

So many questions...We can't have you be the moderator...cause you know...you'll quit. :D

[heffray]

It's mostly a place for you to make a show of no longer participating in something.

You know, as opposed to just not reading the forum anymore.

Quietly.

Without making a scene.

It can be whatever u want. Red Team/Blue Team debates. Fast pitch softball. Whatever no longer floats ur boat.

We can't have you be the moderator...cause you know...you'll quit. :D

I’d like to nominate TAB as moderator, then. He told me once he would never quit on me.

[heffray]

It's mostly a place for you to make a show of no longer participating in something.

You know, as opposed to just not reading the forum anymore.

Quietly.

Without making a scene.

It can be whatever u want. Red Team/Blue Team debates. Fast pitch softball. Whatever no longer floats ur boat.

Also, I can’t tell you how relieving it is to pull up Bisonville and not see those stupid thread names in my feed.

[EC8CH]

I'm preparing my scathing critism of the ontological argument as we speak my fellow godless bitches!!!

[heffray]

I'm preparing my scathing critism of the ontological argument as we speak my fellow godless bitches!!!

Damnit... just when it was about to get good...

[Sun Bison]

I'll lurk political threads, sign me up.

[Wally]

This gal is from North Dakota. :fight::fight::fight::rofl::rofl:


“We had a few people that were there and two of them began arguing,” police spokesman Sam Clemens told reporters Monday. “They know each other; they’re not in any type of relationship. The victim said that it was some type of political argument.”

Roesler allegedly grabbed a beer bottle and swung it at the man, cracking him in the head.


https://nypost.com/2020/09/29/news-anchor-broke-beer-bottle-on-mans-head-during-argument/

[El_Chapo]

Tony with the truth... getting out of hand

[heffray]

It's, like, worse now? Hard to imagine how that is possible.

[EC8CH]

It's, like, worse now? Hard to imagine how that is possible.

We slaughter live goats in the Atheism thread now.

[heffray]

We slaughter live goats in the Atheism thread now.

Pshh, that's nothing. Get back to me when the baby-eating starts.

[THEsocalledfan]

This gal is from North Dakota. :fight::fight::fight::rofl::rofl:




https://nypost.com/2020/09/29/news-anchor-broke-beer-bottle-on-mans-head-during-argument/

Yeah, she is a NDSU fan.

Not sure what happened, but her co-anchor at KSFY divorced his wife and he went out there with her as a couple. Shawn Cable. Pretty sure he had kids, too.

[El_Chapo]

Pshh, that's nothing. Get back to me when the baby-eating starts.

Too Late ..... see twitter

[smoothjack]

Sign me up

[DBRJake]

I’d like to see the shitshow

[Sun Bison]

Must be dead. Been waiting since 9/16.

[1998braves64]

PM tony. He's probably ignoring this thread..

Full on sh*tshow still!

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[NovaBison]

I should have nipped it in the bud on the COVID-19 thread after about the fourth post or something (or not started that thread at all.)

So.... I've created a Political forum that you have to be a member of a group to interact with. It'll be at the bottom (I hope.)

To get access to this part of the forum, reply to this thread.

I'm moving three threads there after I get this figured out:



COVID-19
Reporters arrested in MSP (can't remember the thread title)
You can't make this up


Do NOT try to politicize Random Thoughts or TIL. That is for fun stuff. And do not take your beefs to other threads.

Can I get in on this Tony? Thanks

[unbison]

Let me in please

[admin]

Can I get in on this Tony? Thanks

Added:

DBRJake
Sun Bison
8hmfc despite not being able to figure out what the user name means
NovaBison

May God have mercies on your souls.

[BattleBorn]

Sign me up! This is exactly the soap opera I have been missing since WWE stopped having outlandish characters.

[admin]

Sign me up! This is exactly the soap opera I have been missing since WWE stopped having outlandish characters.

You are in.

[El_Chapo]

Added:

DBRJake
Sun Bison
8hmfc despite not being able to figure out what the user name means
NovaBison

May God have mercies on your souls.

whoa whoa. what kind of vetting are you doing with these people you let into the private club. KEVIN!!!!!!!

[Kevin]

whoa whoa. what kind of vetting are you doing with these people you let into the private club. KEVIN!!!!!!!


I've tried to hire security but Tony keeps executing them in his Cuban styled gulag.

[El_Chapo]

I've tried to hire security but Tony keeps executing them in his Cuban styled gulag.

if he can't figure out what usernames mean, then we all in trouble over in that room... god speed to us.

[kab1one]

Can I be let in?

I don't want to post, I just want to see what Lakes comes up with.

[tony]

Can I be let in?

I don't want to post, I just want to see what Lakes comes up with.

OK, write down what you expect first.

And prepare to lose all respect for me as so many other have. :)

[Kevin]

OK, write down what you expect first.

And prepare to lose all respect for me as so many other have. :)

I still respect you T. I also now fear you.

Anyone who saw what you did to what93about will understand.

[EC8CH]

I still respect you T. I also now fear you.

Anyone who saw what you did to what93about will understand.

The anti-aircraft artillery was a bit much, but whatchagunnado?

[westnodak93bison]

I want in. We need some balance here.

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[TransAmBison]

I want in. We need some balance here.

Sent from my SM-G965U using TapatalkFair and balanced? Soon to be most watched, most trusted? :)

[tony]

I want in. We need some balance here.

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I'll think about it.

In the meantime, do you have any newsletters to which I may subscribe? Note: Preferably ones that won't get me put on a domestic terrorism watchlist. :)

[westnodak93bison]

I'll think about it.

In the meantime, do you have an newsletters to which I may subscribe? Note: Preferably ones that won't get me put on a domestic terrorism watchlist. :)Ha ha. I'd like Mr orygun to comment on the Portland mayoral candidate's dress

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[Answer Guy]

Can I get in? Next 3 weeks should be entertaining.

[El_Chapo]

Can I get in? Next 3 weeks should be entertaining.

Answer Guy's best post ever..... "except when he fell for the Nigerian Tattoo"

[TransAmBison]

Answer Guy's best post ever..... "except when he fell for the Nigerian Tattoo"He just wanted the tattoo...

[THEsocalledfan]

Can I get in? Next 3 weeks should be entertaining.

Dude, I had to tap out. But, you are use to nuttiness being a Sue backer.....

[tony]

Can I get in? Next 3 weeks should be entertaining.

You have been added.

[Answer Guy]

Dude, I had to tap out. But, you are use to nuttiness being a Sue backer.....

I'm sure everyone will agree with all my political opinions. What could possibly go wrong?!

[Gully]

Tony, no matter how nicely I might ask in the future, please, PLEASE, never admit me in there!

[MontBison]

Alright Tony I gotta see this. Can you let me in?

[TransAmBison]

MontBison May I be granted access behind the curtain?
tony Abandon hope all ye who enter here.
MontBison Whoa, nobody said the Political Board was in a sauna.
tony In the middle of the journey of our life I found myself within a dark woods where the straight way was lost.
MontBison Ummm…come again?
tony They yearn for what they fear for.
MontBison Dude…everyone is wearing a towel, but the towels are all see through. I can see everybody's bits.
tony Through me you go into a city of weeping; through me you go into eternal pain; through me you go amongst the lost people.
MontBison The atheists have unbridled power here…was this by design?
tony Hope not ever to see Heaven. I have come to lead you to the other shore; into eternal darkness; into fire and into ice.
MontBison Why did you allow this abhorration to be created?
tony My thoughts were full of other things when I wandered off the path
MontBison I can see now entering was a mistake. My soul will die here.
tony Do not be afraid; our fate cannot be taken from us; it is a gift.
MontBison I only wanted to know what they were saying, honest!
tony You did thirst for blood, and with blood I will fill you.
heffray You can quit, I did!
tony So many times a man's thoughts will waver, that it turns him back from honored paths. As false sight turns a beast, when his is afraid.
Kevin Welcome MontBison. Do not listen to el heffay. We have all the best wine, women, and stocks
tony On march the banners of the King of Hell.
MontBison Who can I trust in this place
tony Wisdom is earned, not given.
MontBison I can't unsee what I've seen. Why is everybody naked in here?! I just want to forget all this!
tony No greater grief than to remember days of joy, when misery is at hand.

[NDSUSR]

TAB using Dante quotes. My 2020 is complete.

[heffray]

MontBison May I be granted access behind the curtain?
tony Abandon hope all ye who enter here.
MontBison Whoa, nobody said the Political Board was in a sauna.
tony In the middle of the journey of our life I found myself within a dark woods where the straight way was lost.
MontBison Ummm…come again?
tony They yearn for what they fear for.
MontBison Dude…everyone is wearing a towel, but the towels are all see through. I can see everybody's bits.
tony Through me you go into a city of weeping; through me you go into eternal pain; through me you go amongst the lost people.
MontBison The atheists have unbridled power here…was this by design?
tony Hope not ever to see Heaven. I have come to lead you to the other shore; into eternal darkness; into fire and into ice.
MontBison Why did you allow this abhorration to be created?
tony My thoughts were full of other things when I wandered off the path
MontBison I can see now entering was a mistake. My soul will die here.
tony Do not be afraid; our fate cannot be taken from us; it is a gift.
MontBison I only wanted to know what they were saying, honest!
tony You did thirst for blood, and with blood I will fill you.
heffray You can quit, I did!
tony So many times a man's thoughts will waver, that it turns him back from honored paths. As false sight turns a beast, when his is afraid.
Kevin Welcome MontBison. Do not listen to el heffay. We have all the best wine, women, and stocks
tony On march the banners of the King of Hell.
MontBison Who can I trust in this place
tony Wisdom is earned, not given.
MontBison I can't unsee what I've seen. Why is everybody naked in here?! I just want to forget all this!
tony No greater grief than to remember days of joy, when misery is at hand.

What ancient text is tony reading from?

[heffray]

TAB using Dante quotes. My 2020 is complete.

Ah thank you. I knew I heard this stuff before.

[EC8CH]

What ancient text is tony reading from?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8f/1f/89/8f1f8975ac2f9c251815608e93718b5e.jpg

Pictorial representation

[admin]

Pictorial representation

Hah! If I'm reading old Italian stuff, it's ORLANDO FURIOSO by Ariosto.

Anyway, I had a bunch of new accounts waiting for approval. 40% were from the Punjab the rest were from Russia, India, and sketchy ISPs.... so if the user, Sibling, can read this: a) your IP shows up in a Spam directory and b) Joe's Datacenter? Really?

Edit: And now I'm finally caught up so I can do this:

MontBison has been added to the Political Forum.
westnodak93bison has not only been added to the Political Forum but s off supervision (at least until he/she posts something even remotely political on the main boards.) Pretty sure that WND93B is challenging old BisonFan1234 (Lieberries are stoopid) and LakesBison for the title of most-banned. :)

[GreenfieldBison]

Hah! If I'm reading old Italian stuff, it's ORLANDO FURIOSO by Ariosto.

Anyway, I had a bunch of new accounts waiting for approval. 40% were from the Punjab the rest were from Russia, India, and sketchy ISPs.... so if the user, Sibling, can read this: a) your IP shows up in a Spam directory and b) Joe's Datacenter? Really?

Edit: And now I'm finally caught up so I can do this:

MontBison has been added to the Political Forum.
westnodak93bison has not only been added to the Political Forum but s off supervision (at least until he/she posts something even remotely political on the main boards.) Pretty sure that WND93B is challenging old BisonFan1234 (Lieberries are stoopid) and LakesBison for the title of most-banned. :)

Whelp, pretty elaborate web presence for a hoax I'd say. But who knows?
https://joesdatacenter.com/#section-ourdc

[Hammersmith]

Definitely not curious enough to request access(god, no), but I am curious as to the posting volume between the political board and the main board. Is it becoming like AGS where what was once a football board with some political talk has become a political board with a little football talk? Or is the BV political side still just a small offshoot?

[tony]

Whelp, pretty elaborate web presence for a hoax I'd say. But who knows?
https://joesdatacenter.com/#section-ourdc

Oh, I looked it up, but I generally don't approve users who log in from an IP address like that because from what I can tell, Joe's Datacenter is not an ISP, they sell server space (which probably includes spam outfits.)

[GreenfieldBison]

Oh, I looked it up, but I generally don't approve users who log in from an IP address like that because from what I can tell, Joe's Datacenter is not an ISP, they sell server space (which probably includes spam outfits.)

Sure that could be right. But if you think about it all those co-located servers need to talk to somebody. Somebody probably outside the colo. I’d be willing to bet Joe has a pretty robust, and redundant bandwidth provision. I’d bet Joe also has a reseller agreement with whomever supplies his bandwidth.

Back in the day I leased a bunch of rack space from an outfit like Joe’s down here in Plymouth. When I started doing that they didn’t look very fancy but they had all the facilities I required to provide service for a Wall Street participant. Over time as my TWC and Qwest contracts expired I migrated to their circuits instead. Eventually they even built out the Minneapolis public WiFi system citywide.

But they do have a more formal “businessy” kind of name than Joe’s. So there’s that.

[TAILG8R]

Didn't want to muck up any other thread with the chance of things turning political ... I have found myself actually enjoying Bisonville again the last few days. People(mostly) sticking to conversation actually related to the topic at hand in other threads. Thank you Tony for setting up this new locked political thread and for most of you for keeping the mud slinging in it.

Bisonville is on it's way back!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUZXu4Eje_o&ab_channel=TeddyBorth)

[El_Chapo]

Didn't want to muck up any other thread with the chance of things turning political ... I have found myself actually enjoying Bisonville again the last few days. People(mostly) sticking to conversation actually related to the topic at hand in other threads. Thank you Tony for setting up this new locked political thread and for most of you for keeping the mud slinging in it.

Bisonville is on it's way back!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUZXu4Eje_o&ab_channel=TeddyBorth)

good point. I for one don't have 1 political post in the open forum and I want to stick to that!

[Hammersmith]

Goddammit. I said I was never going to do this, but I'd like access. Will only be for a couple weeks(or maybe even days), but that situation in ND-8 is too fascinating not to talk about.

[ByeSonBusiness]

Goddammit. I said I was never going to do this, but I'd like access. Will only be for a couple weeks(or maybe even days), but that situation in ND-8 is too fascinating not to talk about.

Don't do it. Resist. I have stayed out of there and I think my mental health is better for it. If you go in, I may be too tempted to continue resisting.

[Hammersmith]

Don't do it. Resist. I have stayed out of there and I think my mental health is better for it. If you go in, I may be too tempted to continue resisting.

For the presidential race, I've been hanging out on AGS's Gameday thread. I just want to talk about that crazy situation in ND-8. LOL

[runtheoption]

Goddammit. I said I was never going to do this, but I'd like access. Will only be for a couple weeks(or maybe even days), but that situation in ND-8 is too fascinating not to talk about.
I don't think there is much discussion about that situation, so you might be disappointed.

[Gully]

Tony started a trend! Now you're not allowed to give partisan opinions on facebook or twitter either? Or at least if your opinion is on the right side. Oh well.

[Rock]

Tony started a trend! Now you're not allowed to give partisan opinions on facebook or twitter either? Or at least if your opinion is on the right side. Oh well.

At least Tony allows it on a segregated area. Kind of a VIP Champaign room for ECHC8 and Kevin.

Twitter/Facebook/Lifelog get to decide what is truth and allowed to be spoken on their open platform where they are not editing content (unless it extends beyond their terms of service and they apply safeguards selectively. this is not censoring mind you...)

[Gully]

They are censoring what people say. I didn't say it was illegal, although you could argue they have such large market power and are abusing it. I'm generally against government intervention but I guess if they can break up AT&T...

Fortunately there are other choices, I just deleted my Twitter app and am moving over to Parler. They have committed to being open to all views and opinions. I hear Rumble is a good alternative for YouTube but I haven't checked that out yet.

[tony]

Goddammit. I said I was never going to do this, but I'd like access. Will only be for a couple weeks(or maybe even days), but that situation in ND-8 is too fascinating not to talk about.

I haven't gone there this week. It's been very pleasant.

But I will give you access next time I'm in as admin.

[JMB]

For the presidential race, I've been hanging out on AGS's Gameday thread. I just want to talk about that crazy situation in ND-8. LOL

You really haven't been in there if you expect any meaningful conversation. DON'T TAKE THE RED PILL!!! The closer to the election, the dumber it got. Now we are basically throwing virtual feces at each other...

[EC8CH]

Kev's nice enough to piss on me from time to time to rinse me off.

[admin]

Hammersmith is in. "May God preserve his sanity," says guy who recently used the phrase "hapless fuckwit."

[ByeSonBusiness]

Hammersmith is in. "May God preserve his sanity," says guy who recently used the phrase "hapless fuckwit."

God bless you all. I'm half expecting to see an NDSU tailgate rig used as a bomb of some variety now after someone gets radicalized on here lol

[TAILG8R]

Do I have to subject myself to the political forum now to have fun in the Stock Market thread? I saw it moved, or did it get axed completely?

[El_Chapo]

Do I have to subject myself to the political forum now to have fun in the Stock Market thread? I saw it moved, or did it get axed completely?

yup. and Tony has ruined friendships with his decision :)
factions of bisonville have begun digging parallel's (Old military reference)

[TAILG8R]

yup. and Tony has ruined friendships with his decision :)
factions of bisonville have begun digging parallel's (Old military reference)

Woof. Well I might have to get added to the political crap just because I want to follow the fun in the stocks talk. Unless that truly has turned to poli-crap talk too.


EDIT: Wait are you saying yes it moved or yes it was axed completely?

[T-Funk]

Woof. Well I might have to get added to the political crap just because I want to follow the fun in the stocks talk. Unless that truly has turned to poli-crap talk too.


EDIT: Wait are you saying yes it moved or yes it was axed completely?

I also want access to the stock thread. Tony, hook us up!

[Hammersmith]

Woof. Well I might have to get added to the political crap just because I want to follow the fun in the stocks talk. Unless that truly has turned to poli-crap talk too.


EDIT: Wait are you saying yes it moved or yes it was axed completely?

It was moved. It drifted political during the reddit/GMA thing. It's now about 75% lakes and kevin "talking" to each other.

[Kevin]

EC8HCH showed up and ruined everything as usual.

[EC8CH]

EC8HCH showed up and ruined everything as usual.

Kevs been bitter since I ruined his mother for his old man.

[El_Chapo]

EC8HCH showed up and ruined everything as usual.

THIS...^^^ Tony. move the stock market thread back, keep ec8chc out of it

do this and me and kev will stop talking outloud and keep our stock tips...aka 300% profits to ourselves

[EC8CH]

THIS...^^^ Tony. move the stock market thread back, keep ec8chc out of it

do this and me and kev will stop talking outloud and keep our stock tips...aka 300% profits to ourselves

Don't tell me what to do Chapo or I'll ruin your mother too.

[heffray]

Ok, tony. I’m back. Kev convinced me. Some things I need to see over there.

Thanks.

[EC8CH]

Ok, tony. I’m back. Kev convinced me. Some things I need to see over there.

Thanks.

DAmn it Kev! What have you done?!?!?!

[heffray]

DAmn it Kev! What have you done?!?!?!

You know you want it.

[EC8CH]

You know you want it.

Heff has quit on quitting.... the circle is complete.

[TransAmBison]

The prodigal son has returned. He escaped hell to only return. Where wisdom was found lacking, foolishness prevailed.

[heffray]

Heff has quit on quitting.... the circle is complete.

The only way I know how, EC... the only way I know how.

[heffray]

The prodigal son has returned. He escaped hell to only return. Where wisdom was found lacking, foolishness prevailed.

I just can’t get enough of that weeping and gnashing, you know? Soothing...

[admin]

I just can’t get enough of that weeping and gnashing, you know? Soothing...

Holy cow, been so long that I couldn't remember the admin password. And there were some new users to approve - including the absolute saddest user name I've ever seen (it was something like "formergriz-nowafightinghawkfan*")

So you may or may not have access to the political board now.

Edit: I looked it up - the saddest user name in the history of Bisonville is GrizTurnedFightingHawk

[El_Chapo]

Holy cow, been so long that I couldn't remember the admin password. And there were some new users to approve - including the absolute saddest user name I've ever seen (it was something like "formergriz-nowafightinghawkfan*")

So you may or may not have access to the political board now.

Edit: I looked it up - the saddest user name in the history of Bisonville is GrizTurnedFightingHawk

ouch. for the good of humanity those should be doused with fire.

[heffray]

Holy cow, been so long that I couldn't remember the admin password. And there were some new users to approve - including the absolute saddest user name I've ever seen (it was something like "formergriz-nowafightinghawkfan*")

So you may or may not have access to the political board now.

Edit: I looked it up - the saddest user name in the history of Bisonville is GrizTurnedFightingHawk

Thank you and shame on you also for letting such an abomination onto our board.

[Kevin]

DAmn it Kev! What have you done?!?!?!

I told him Q was a Bison fan and actively posting in the Q thread the last few weeks.

That was apparently all Heffy needed.

[Kevin]

I told him Q was a Bison fan and actively posting in the Q thread the last few weeks.

That was apparently all Heffy needed.

Oh and Heffy, come to the stock plays forum if you wanna get rich as fuuuuuuckckkckckckk by inversing all of lakes buys.

[heffray]

Oh and Heffy, come to the stock plays forum if you wanna get rich as fuuuuuuckckkckckckk by inversing all of lakes buys.

I had considered this as a lucrative ulterior motive, but really I’m just going back to deconvert all them Jesus freaks.

[heffray]

Please remove me again. Thanks.

[EC8CH]

Please remove me again. Thanks.

https://media.tenor.com/images/274122450c69dbddd4e32166aef762f4/tenor.png

[Rock]

Please remove me again. Thanks.

Maybe just not look at it if you don’t want to? Unless this is just some possible virtue signal...

Hey tony would you do some extra stuff for me while you’re at it? I’m not sure what, just do some stuff that takes away from your time?

https://youtu.be/2hshkdneE8o

[heffray]

Maybe just not look at it if you don’t want to? Unless this is just some possible virtue signal...

Hey tony would you do some extra stuff for me while you’re at it? I’m not sure what, just do some stuff that takes away from your time?

https://youtu.be/2hshkdneE8o

Fuck you, asshole.

[Rock]

Fuck you, asshole.

Snip snap snip snap snip snap!

[td577]

Fuck you, asshole.That is your response to 95% of the political posts. Well, between that and your a fucking moron. I, for one, sign in every few days just to see if you are going to say something different. You have become a beacon of consistency.

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[TransAmBison]

That is your response to 95% of the political posts. Well, between that and your a fucking moron. I, for one, sign in every few days just to see if you are going to say something different. You have become a beacon of consistency.

Sent from my SM-G991U using TapatalkOkay...I'll bite. What viewpoint that el heffy has made would be considered moronic?

[heffray]

Okay...I'll bite. What viewpoint that el heffy has made would be considered moronic?

I think he was more saying that I call people fucking morons than anything I said was moronic, but I could be wrong there.

[heffray]

That is your response to 95% of the political posts. Well, between that and your a fucking moron. I, for one, sign in every few days just to see if you are going to say something different. You have become a beacon of consistency.

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How would you respond when you try to post reasoned, researched responses and they just keep spewing the same garbage? It’s why I’m no longer subjecting myself to the torment. Sorry that you won’t be able to enjoy it anymore, but maybe, if you’re lucky, you’ll get to see me call a un_ fan a fucking moron, just for old times’ sake…

[scottietohottie]

I call people fucking morons

I'll be your huckleberry.

[TransAmBison]

I think he was more saying that I call people fucking morons than anything I said was moronic, but I could be wrong there.

That does make more sense. I'll have to take a reading comprehension class I guess.

[heffray]

I'll be your huckleberry.

I wouldn’t dare, scottie.

[heffray]

That does make more sense. I'll have to take a reading comprehension class I guess.

Ha, I have a few professors I can recommend avoiding…

[td577]

How would you respond when you try to post reasoned, researched responses and they just keep spewing the same garbage? It’s why I’m no longer subjecting myself to the torment. Sorry that you won’t be able to enjoy it anymore, but maybe, if you’re lucky, you’ll get to see me call a un_ fan a fucking moron, just for old times’ sake…You don't give in to any middle ground. The country is very clearly divided and neither side will give the other side the satisfaction of agreeing on anything.

This all reminds me of something I read somewhere. There are 2 kinds of people in this world and I try to avoid both.

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[GreenfieldBison]

You don't give in to any middle ground. The country is very clearly divided and neither side will give the other side the satisfaction of agreeing on anything.

This all reminds me of something I read somewhere. There are 2 kinds of people in this world and I try to avoid both.

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If you’re not a hardcore card carrying introvert like me you must get a little lonely.

Unless you’ve got a dog or a fainting goat.


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[EC8CH]

You don't give in to any middle ground. The country is very clearly divided and neither side will give the other side the satisfaction of agreeing on anything.

This all reminds me of something I read somewhere. There are 2 kinds of people in this world and I try to avoid both.

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Country being divided is nothing new. What is recent is over the past couple decades the right has moved that divided further and further towards ignorance, dogma, and nationalism to the point they openly celebrate someone like Donald Trump. It is unfortunate for the entire country.

[56BISON73]

How would you respond when you try to post reasoned, researched responses and they just keep spewing the same garbage? It’s why I’m no longer subjecting myself to the torment. Sorry that you won’t be able to enjoy it anymore, but maybe, if you’re lucky, you’ll get to see me call a un_ fan a fucking moron, just for old times’ sake…

You havent learned when to quit. Give your opinion. Have some back and forth. Realize that others have their opinions also. Then leave it alone. Dont argue it to death and when you dont get the response you want you resort to infantile name calling. Somewhere in there you set yourself up to get your buttons pushed.
In the end it always results in the same ending-response with you.

Dont blame a clown for acting like a clown. Blame yourself for going to the circus.

[heffray]

You don't give in to any middle ground. The country is very clearly divided and neither side will give the other side the satisfaction of agreeing on anything.

This all reminds me of something I read somewhere. There are 2 kinds of people in this world and I try to avoid both.

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There are a few topics that I have a hard time giving any middle ground to (safety and efficacy of vaccines is one in particular, and more recently defense of Trump’s actions that led to Jan 6)… but the very nature of my worldview is specifically to call out where WE DON’T KNOW the answers, which, I think, is a pretty good example of “middle ground.”

I also could be wrong about that and I’m not perfect, so feel free to point out where I’m wrong here.

[TransAmBison]

Country being divided is nothing new. What is recent is over the past couple decades the right has moved that divided further and further towards ignorance, dogma, and nationalism to the point they openly celebrate someone like Donald Trump. It is unfortunate for the entire country.I think both sides have done quite a job of increasing the division.

[heffray]

You don't give in to any middle ground. The country is very clearly divided and neither side will give the other side the satisfaction of agreeing on anything.

This all reminds me of something I read somewhere. There are 2 kinds of people in this world and I try to avoid both.

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I’ll also add that I got really pissed off at a few posters on here and placed them on ignore, but the ignore feature on this site really sucks because you can still see, both, when they post things and 1 simple click reveals it, and also when others quote what they say. This led to 2 things: Me posting superlative over-generalizations aimed at specific posters without actually responding to anything they say, and then me leaving that part of this forum altogether because it’s not helping anything or anyone including those people.

Anyway. I’ve said my piece. I’m gonna stick to good-natured football, basketball, golf, and hating un_ posts. I’m better at that stuff. Good luck to you all.

[ByeSonBusiness]

I think both sides have done quite a job of increasing the division.

Yep. It's always funny when folks seem to think that it is only one group who has moved further from the center.

[56BISON73]

I think both sides have done quite a job of increasing the division.

Ya think :biggrin:

[Kevin]

Country being divided is nothing new. What is recent is over the past couple decades the right has moved that divided further and further towards ignorance, dogma, and nationalism to the point they openly celebrate someone like Donald Trump. It is unfortunate for the entire country.

You did nothing wrong? Someone else is to blame? Imagine that.

[56BISON73]

You did nothing wrong? Someone else is to blame? Imagine that.

:nod:......................

[EC8CH]

You did nothing wrong? Someone else is to blame? Imagine that.

I'm not perfect but at least I didn't support the guy who told everyone before the election he wouldn't honor the results unless he won. You can be imperfect without being completely clueless eh kev?

I shoulda voted for Hillary in 2016, that's what I did wrong.

[EC8CH]

I think both sides have done quite a job of increasing the division.

No doubt. But that doesn't mean there is an equivalence. There are extremes on both side, but the right embraces it with open arms and a disregard for the truth. They'd rather lie to themselves than believe their guy lost by over 7 million votes. Huge percentages believe the Qanon crap. Crazy in mainstream in the GOP, it exists on the left but it's just not at the same level.

[ByeSonBusiness]

No doubt. But that doesn't mean there is an equivalence. There are extremes on both side, but the right embraces it with open arms and a disregard for the truth. They'd rather lie to themselves than believe their guy lost by over 7 million votes. Huge percentages believe the Qanon crap. Crazy in mainstream in the GOP, it exists on the left but it's just not at the same level.

Polls taken in 2018 showed roughly 2/3 of Democrats believed Hillary actually won the 2016 election or that Russians hacked voting machines to change votes. Crazy is mainstream everywhere. It's just gonna manifest itself more in whomever lost most recently. And no, he did not lose by 7 million votes. He, like Hillary, lost by something like ~100,000 votes total between a few states that would have changed the outcome.