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PaBizon
02-22-2020, 05:15 AM
Last dual of the season. My predictions
125 ISU 3 I hope Midkiff proves me wrong again. He’s trending up
133 NDSU 4 cam is focused
141 ISU 4 Dylan keep shooting and finish. If Degen goes the same
149 ISU. 4 tough match up
157 ISU. 3 Franek makes it closer than last time with a chance to win
165 NDSU. 4 Fogarty wrestles a full 7 min
174 NDSU. 3 upset special IF Weber goes speed vs strength. He’s 2 weights up and opponent is 2 weights down
184 ISU. 4 I’m guessing Pottinger goes after Cressel got slammed against SDSU
197 NDSU. 3 Eaton finishes strong in His home state
HWT ISU. 3 if Metz shoots more he wins

ISU 21
NDSU 14

RadioBison
02-22-2020, 06:08 PM
Last dual of the season. My predictions
125 ISU 3 I hope Midkiff proves me wrong again. He’s trending up
133 NDSU 4 cam is focused
141 ISU 4 Dylan keep shooting and finish. If Degen goes the same
149 ISU. 4 tough match up
157 ISU. 3 Franek makes it closer than last time with a chance to win
165 NDSU. 4 Fogarty wrestles a full 7 min
174 NDSU. 3 upset special IF Weber goes speed vs strength. He’s 2 weights up and opponent is 2 weights down
184 ISU. 4 I’m guessing Pottinger goes after Cressel got slammed against SDSU
197 NDSU. 3 Eaton finishes strong in His home state
HWT ISU. 3 if Metz shoots more he wins

ISU 21
NDSU 14

That is a bold prediction at 174. He beat Steiert in his last outing, so maybe Dresser's public shaming of the team is working. And technically, we can say he is down three weights, if you count the time they pulled his red-shirt to wrestle Tynan at HWT. I would like to hear the thought process on that one. Anyway, your predictions were good against SDSU, and I hope you are on to something.

I hope Metz goes out with reckless abandon in this one. Barring an injury, the worst that can happen is that he loses to a higher-ranked wrestler.

I think this will be an important match for Cam, to keep his Big12 / NCAA seeding in place. At least on the Flo rankings, the Big 12 currently has #10, #12, #13, #15, #16, #17, #18, #19. Cam is #13 and Small is #16.

RadioBison
02-23-2020, 02:50 PM
ISU sat most of the big names in a loss at Missouri, so it will be interesting to see who we get today.

Big Bird
02-23-2020, 03:39 PM
ISU sat most of the big names in a loss at Missouri, so it will be interesting to see who we get today.

Most were at the last chance open in Ames. Marcus coleman is clearly the meanest wrestler of all time, going 4-0 against his teammates and winning by injury defaults. That 4-0 will boost his record...ridiculous

RadioBison
02-23-2020, 04:27 PM
Most were at the last chance open in Ames. Marcus coleman is clearly the meanest wrestler of all time, going 4-0 against his teammates and winning by injury defaults. That 4-0 will boost his record...ridiculous

OK, thanks, I missed that one. Yes, what a joke. Someone should close up that loop-hole. For the post-season allocations, I think they should do something like only count matches against each team's designated starter.

Congrats to Lorenzo and Nick Knutson on first place finishes.

PaBizon
02-23-2020, 07:55 PM
I’m wondering if the BiZon don’t rest some people tonight too. Maybe see a couple Out of the Degen, Brenner, De La Riva, Pottinger and Stribral group? Cressell probably needs a break after getting slammed on Friday

PaBizon
02-23-2020, 08:07 PM
Radio Bison,

I’m pretty sure I’m on something not on to something with my prediction at 174. My thought process is It can’t be easy to stay that much weight down and I do put value in common opponents. They both recently wrestled Branson Martino with Colbray losing 6-5 and Weber winning 10-3. Just a hunch is all. I’m also very interested if Franek can close the gap against an elite wrestler like Carr.

Big Bird
02-23-2020, 11:59 PM
Dual starting at 157. I imagine Carr goes in this one and it will be very interesting to see if Franek has closed the gap at all.

scottietohottie
02-24-2020, 12:04 AM
How do you guys watch or listen to this?

RadioBison
02-24-2020, 12:06 AM
Dual starting at 157. I imagine Carr goes in this one and it will be very interesting to see if Franek has closed the gap at all.

Looks like Leisure

Big Bird
02-24-2020, 12:07 AM
Flowrestling. Flo(insert sport) offers a lot of live college sports (I think they have a CAA football deal too) on their various platforms.

https://www.flowrestling.org/live/16845

Looks like Cyclone network at least has audio https://cyclones.com/watch/?Live=4980&type=Live

RadioBison
02-24-2020, 12:07 AM
How do you guys watch or listen to this?

Flowrestling

Big Bird
02-24-2020, 12:09 AM
Looks like Leisure

Oh well. Carr really doesn't have anything to gain here.

I don't know anything about Judge for ISU here

Big Bird
02-24-2020, 12:14 AM
Franek looking really good through two. 8-2 lead and has riding time

CAS4127
02-24-2020, 12:16 AM
Please keep posting scores/results.


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PaBizon
02-24-2020, 12:16 AM
Workman like major dec for Franek

Big Bird
02-24-2020, 12:16 AM
Franek wins 11-2. NDSU up 4-0

Big Bird
02-24-2020, 12:18 AM
Need good shot defense from Fogarty in this one.

Big Bird
02-24-2020, 12:21 AM
Fogarty did all the work but only has a 2-1 led to show for it. Does have roughly a minute of riding time

Big Bird
02-24-2020, 12:24 AM
Straw has legitimately done nothing so far. 0 shots, and a claw ride.

3-1 Fogarty heading to the third.

Straw chooses down

Big Bird
02-24-2020, 12:27 AM
Fogarty with a turn and a rideout to win 8-1. Misses the major decision by 1.

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 12:27 AM
Fogarty with the 8-1 decision against a quality opponent. Bison up 7-0 after two matches

RadioBison
02-24-2020, 12:28 AM
Straw was Big XII champ at 157 last year.

Big Bird
02-24-2020, 12:29 AM
That locks up the 2 seed for Fogarty at the B12 tourney. I imagine Wittlake will be the 1 seed, but they haven't met.

Sammy Colbray vs Luke Weber. Colbray is a former 197 pounder who has cut to 174...and Weber is a 157 wrestling up at 174. Big size difference here.

Big Bird
02-24-2020, 12:32 AM
Weber down 2-1 after the first and isn't looking overmatched against #13 Colbray.

RadioBison
02-24-2020, 12:33 AM
He's hanging in nicely so far.

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 12:34 AM
Weber doing a good job fighting off shots against a big dude

Big Bird
02-24-2020, 12:34 AM
Colbray has certainly had the better opportunities to score, but this match is still close.

2-2 heading to the third, and Colbray starts on bottom. Only takes one takedown for Weber to potentially win this

CAS4127
02-24-2020, 12:35 AM
Excellent, and thanks for updates. Major respect for wrestlers. Worked out/lifted with them back in the days and I was a former wrestler. Tough as nails they are!


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Big Bird
02-24-2020, 12:36 AM
Weber down 5-3 with 30 seconds left.

Big Bird
02-24-2020, 12:37 AM
Weber loses 7-3 to #13 Colbray. Gave up a takedown going for a desperation throw at the buzzer

7-3 NDSU

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 12:37 AM
Good match by Weber. Tried for a throw at the end but dude is too strong. 7-3 bison after 3 matches

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 12:38 AM
Pottinger with the nod at 184

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 12:48 AM
7-7 after four matches. Need a big match for Eaton in his home state

RadioBison
02-24-2020, 12:49 AM
Tied 7-7 through four matches.

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 12:52 AM
Eaton up 1-0 after an escape in the second period

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 12:54 AM
1-1 in the third

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 12:55 AM
Eaton with a nice shot couldn’t finish it though. 1-1 min left

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 12:55 AM
Eaton with the td. Up 3-1 with 34 seconds left

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 12:56 AM
3-2 Eaton hangs on for the decision. 10-7 BiZon at half

RadioBison
02-24-2020, 12:56 AM
Nice job Cordell.

CAS4127
02-24-2020, 12:56 AM
Eaton with the td. Up 3-1 with 34 seconds left

Yes!


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Christopher Moen
02-24-2020, 12:57 AM
3-2 Eaton hangs on for the decision. 10-7 BiZon at half

Huge win for Eaton and NDSU. Now need Metz to finally beat Gremmel in an important match.

RadioBison
02-24-2020, 01:00 AM
Big Dan is 1-0 against Gremmel.

Christopher Moen
02-24-2020, 01:05 AM
Big Dan is 1-0 against Gremmel.

My bad, I thought Metz was wrestling.

I've only seen them (Metz and Gremmel) go at in Freestyle/Greco-Roman matches. Dang Gremmel managed to come out on top every time I watched their matches, including a UWW Junior National Championship match where it appeared Metz had him teched.

RadioBison
02-24-2020, 01:07 AM
No it's Metz. I was just putting that out there.

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:10 AM
Metz has been the aggressor so far. 0-0 after the first.

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:11 AM
1-0 Gremmel with the escape

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:13 AM
Big scramble to start;the third. Gremmel gets the td. 3-0

larson311
02-24-2020, 01:15 AM
Metz has been the aggressor so far. 0-0 after the first.

Might have been aggressive pummeling, but he never took a shot the whole match.


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PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:15 AM
Gremmel rides out Metz for a 4-0 dec. dual is 10-10 moving to 125.

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:16 AM
He took a shot in the first 20 seconds

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:18 AM
2-0 Mackell with the td. Midkiff escape. 2-1

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:20 AM
After 1 period 4-1 Mackall

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:22 AM
After 2 periods. Mackall 4 Midkiff 2

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:26 AM
Mackall with the decision
ISU 13
NDSU 10

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:27 AM
Need a bonus point match from Cam

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:28 AM
Small with the quick td Cam with the escape 2-1

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:29 AM
Td cam 3-2

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:30 AM
Small,is hurt. Knee. May not continue

Christopher Moen
02-24-2020, 01:31 AM
That didn't look good. Hopefully it's not a major injury. Gadson (one of the commentators) thinks it will end the match though.

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:31 AM
Small can’t continue. Too bad. BiZon 16-13 with two matches to go

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:32 AM
Degan gets the nod at 141

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:33 AM
Parker td 2-0

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:36 AM
Degan gets cradled down 6-1 after one

Christopher Moen
02-24-2020, 01:37 AM
Degan gets cradled down 6-1 after one

How he didn't give up more or get pinned was fairly amazing. With that said, he's wrestling too nervous and a bit erratic.

RadioBison
02-24-2020, 01:38 AM
Congrats to Lorenzo and Nick Knutson on first place finishes.

Oops, that was last year.

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:39 AM
Bison throw the brick but call stands. Remains 6-1 going in to the second

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:41 AM
After two periods
Parker 8
Degan 1

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:43 AM
Parker with the fallover Degen

ISU 19
NDSU 16

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:47 AM
Van Maanen down 2-1 after one

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:50 AM
3-3 after two periods.

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 01:52 AM
van Maanen gets ridden the entire third period. Lose 4-3 due to riding time. 22-16 final for ISU

Good showing for the Bison

Big Bird
02-24-2020, 03:31 AM
I missed everything after the second period of 197, so I'll have to watch it tomorrow.

22-16 is about what you'd expect with Carr out, but super disappointing to hear that it ends on a third period rideout though

harleycowboy
02-24-2020, 05:12 AM
I missed everything after the second period of 197, so I'll have to watch it tomorrow.

22-16 is about what you'd expect with Carr out, but super disappointing to hear that it ends on a third period rideout though

I think Michael Nelson will take over for Eaton next year. I don't know if any of our other freshmen look like they will take over a weight class next year. You mentioned Van Mannen being ridden out and I was thinking maybe the younger Weber can beat Van Mannen out at 149. However he never wrestled another match after the Bison Open. It would be nice if Wokojance really improved and took over 184. Any insight into our true freshman wrestlers this year?

PaBizon
02-24-2020, 02:11 PM
I think Michael Nelson will take over for Eaton next year. I don't know if any of our other freshmen look like they will take over a weight class next year. You mentioned Van Mannen being ridden out and I was thinking maybe the younger Weber can beat Van Mannen out at 149. However he never wrestled another match after the Bison Open. It would be nice if Wokojance really improved and took over 184. Any insight into our true freshman wrestlers this year?

It will be interesting to see what happens at 125/133. It looked like Cory Gamet would step into the 125 spot with Midkiff bumping up to 133 but he’s no longer on the roster. That pretty much means Midkiff has to stay at 125 or they’re wresting a true freshman or a transfer. I will say that the way things are set up,for transfers now days it can take some of the strain off of a situation like this. Purely hypothetical but Iowa has a backup at 125 (cashman) that could decide he’d rather have a chance to compete now instead of waiting for Spencer Lee to leave. I believe his dad wrestled at NDSU.

Without a transfer you’re probably looking at Midkiff at 125 and Ripplinger at 133 or maybe March comes in a starts as a true freshman which probably isn’t a best case scenario

Big Bird
02-24-2020, 08:39 PM
I think Nelson will be very good right out of the gate next year. Yes, he lost to Eaton this year, but I think his explosiveness and length will offer more than Eaton has.

My hope is that Cole Witzig, who was solid whenever he wrestled this year, drops to 184. He isn't exactly lean at 197, so it should be doable. Let Witzig, Cressell, Pottinger, and Wokojance determine who is the best guy.

Brenner seems very likely to step in at 174, and I'd bet on him to put up improved results over what we've seen this year. He had Bastian on the ropes and nearly beat Fogarty in the intrasquad scrimmage.

141 and 149 look to belong to Droegemueller and Van Maanen. Van Maanen has been right with so many guys, he just hasn't been able to finish. You are 1-2 tweaks away from creating a top 20 wrestler. Droegemueller just needs to finish his shots better/quicker. He cleans that up and he is a likely NCAA qualifier.

125/133 is the concern. Midkiff mans ones spot, and I would imagine he prefers 133 to be that spot. If that is the case, we need a transfer for 125. If Midkiff goes 125 again, then probably Ripplinger at 133, and he would probably be the weakest link in the lineup by a wide margin.

We'll lose our two best starters and another 4 year starter, but adding Nelson (197), Brenner (174), and Weber (165) keeps the team competitive, if a bit lacking in potential All Americans. Franek would become our star and probably the only realistic AA contender.

Big Bird
02-24-2020, 10:17 PM
Finally got a chance to finish watching the dual.

Good job by Eaton of pushing the action in the third period. That win will help for B12 seeding.
Metz lost one exchange and that was about it. I thought Metz did very well with his snaps, which he normally doesn't use. If he can piece a snap and a quick snatch single together, he will be all the more dangerous.
Midkiff wrestled ok, but got beat on his feet pretty soundly.
Unfortunate that Small got injured at 133, but Cam didn't do anything wrong. Cam gave up the first takedown again, and that has been a constant the past month. Need to fix that ASAP.
Bad match by Degen all around.
At 149, what a blunder with the choice in the third period. Jaden has struggled a ton on bottom all year, and Degen is a lanky, quality rider. It would be defensible if Jaden was getting beaten on his feet, but he actually looked better than Degen from neutral as the match went on and had just gotten a takedown. Jaden had initiated pretty much all of the exchanges from neutral too, so a stall point was a possibility. To make matters even worse, Jaden initially suggested neutral to the coaches. I don't get it.

PaBizon
02-25-2020, 12:37 AM
I think Nelson will be very good right out of the gate next year. Yes, he lost to Eaton this year, but I think his explosiveness and length will offer more than Eaton has.

My hope is that Cole Witzig, who was solid whenever he wrestled this year, drops to 184. He isn't exactly lean at 197, so it should be doable. Let Witzig, Cressell, Pottinger, and Wokojance determine who is the best guy.

Brenner seems very likely to step in at 174, and I'd bet on him to put up improved results over what we've seen this year. He had Bastian on the ropes and nearly beat Fogarty in the intrasquad scrimmage.

141 and 149 look to belong to Droegemueller and Van Maanen. Van Maanen has been right with so many guys, he just hasn't been able to finish. You are 1-2 tweaks away from creating a top 20 wrestler. Droegemueller just needs to finish his shots better/quicker. He cleans that up and he is a likely NCAA qualifier.

125/133 is the concern. Midkiff mans ones spot, and I would imagine he prefers 133 to be that spot. If that is the case, we need a transfer for 125. If Midkiff goes 125 again, then probably Ripplinger at 133, and he would probably be the weakest link in the lineup by a wide margin.

We'll lose our two best starters and another 4 year starter, but adding Nelson (197), Brenner (174), and Weber (165) keeps the team competitive, if a bit lacking in potential All Americans. Franek would become our star and probably the only realistic AA contender.

Your potential lineup for next looks pretty good. Although I would
Think if Witzig could make 184 he would have done it this year.