Is Trey Lance's Season the Greatest in Program History?

[Snowgoose]

We have had so many great offensive players in this program it is hard to say anyone is greater, but in my opinion Trey is having the greatest offensive season in program history. His absolute lack of turnovers is truly unreal and may never be repeated again even by him. He has made things look easy this year. If he was a senior I really don't know how high his draft stock could go.

[OrygunBison]

We have had so many great offensive players in this program it is hard to say anyone is greater, but in my opinion Trey is having the greatest offensive season in program history. His absolute lack of turnovers is truly unreal and may never be repeated again even by him. He has made things look easy this year. If he was a senior I really don't know how high his draft stock could go.

We'll know a bit more in mid-afternoon on January 11th.

[EC8CH]

We'll know a bit more in mid-afternoon on January 11th.

That's just the beginning. Needs a few more years of sustained success to prove the thread's title accurate.

[ZHerd]

During this run, part of previous qb’s great seasons included winning a title. Trey’s turn

[Snowgoose]

That's just the beginning. Needs a few more years of sustained success to prove the thread's title accurate.

Threads title is in regard to single season not a career.

[89MTBISON]

Silly thread title. It should read: Is Trey Lance's 1.0 season the greatest in program history? Now there will be confusion during seasons 2.0, 3.0, 4.0.

[MankatoBison]

Depends how it ends honestly. If we go in, lose and Trey looks shaky, we say he had one of the best seasons by a Bison QB ever.

If we win, and Trey looks incredible, then he is absolutely in the conversation. I would say (and I wasnt alive during Bentram years etc) but 18 Easton stick season was absolutely NUTS. He was in control of every possible aspect of the game. He could simply choose how you were going to lose on that day.

[VirginiaBison]

We have had so many great offensive players in this program it is hard to say anyone is greater, but in my opinion Trey is having the greatest offensive season in program history. His absolute lack of turnovers is truly unreal and may never be repeated again even by him. He has made things look easy this year. If he was a senior I really don't know how high his draft stock could go.


Are we talking just one season? If so, yes. If talking career, it remains to be seen.

[EC8CH]

Threads title is in regard to single season not a career.

Ahhh yes. I'm just so used to greatness in regards to the Bison spanning multiple seasons.

[Vet70]

The season isn't over yet. The Bison have to win one more game for it to be great.

[Professor Chaos]

I don't know enough about pre-D1 era (and the offense was so different back then it's tough to compare) but in the D1 era I think he's got it statistically speaking. The other years that could be up for comparison would probably be.

Steve Walker in 2007: 166-248 (66.9%) for 2,327 yards, 20 TDs, and 10 INTs for an efficiency rating of 164.3. Rushing he had 49 carries for 23 yards (0.5 yards per carry) and 1 TD (only played 11 games that year)

Brock Jensen in 2013: 218-329 (66.3%) for 2,793 yards, 34 TDs, and 7 INTs for an efficiency rating of 167.4. Rushing he had 99 carries for 470 yards (4.7 yards per carry) and 10 TDs (15 games).

Carson Wentz in 2014: 228-358 (63.7%) for 3,111 yards, 25 TDs, and 10 INTs for an efficiency rating of 154.1. Rushing he had 138 carries for 642 yards (4.7 yards per carry) and 6 TDs (16 games).

Easton Stick in 2017: 164-264 (62.1%) for 2,466 yards, 28 TDs, and 8 INTs for an efficiency rating of 169.5. Rushing he had 112 carries for 664 yards (5.9 yards per carry) and 12 TDs (15 games).

Easton Stick in 2018: 175-281 (62.3%) for 2,752 yards, 28 TDs, and 7 INTs for an efficiency rating of 172.4. Rushing he had 117 carries for 677 yards (5.8 yards per carry) and 17 TDs (15 games).

Trey Lance in 2019: 186-277 (67.1%) for 2,714 yards, 28 TDs, and 0 INTs for an efficiency rating of 182.8. Rushing he has 129 carries for 934 yards (6.7 yards per carry) and 13 TDs (15 games - so far).


I'd say Jensen in 2013 and Stick in 2018 could make an argument just based on total TDs but Lance's efficiency (both throwing and running) has been better this year. Hopefully he can add one more game of impressive numbers to those totals!

[Snowgoose]

I don't know enough about pre-D1 era (and the offense was so different back then it's tough to compare) but in the D1 era I think he's got it statistically speaking. The other years that could be up for comparison would probably be.

Steve Walker in 2007: 166-248 (66.9%) for 2,327 yards, 20 TDs, and 10 INTs for an efficiency rating of 164.3. Rushing he had 49 carries for 23 yards (0.5 yards per carry) and 1 TD (only played 11 games that year)

Brock Jensen in 2013: 218-329 (66.3%) for 2,793 yards, 34 TDs, and 7 INTs for an efficiency rating of 167.4. Rushing he had 99 carries for 470 yards (4.7 yards per carry) and 10 TDs (15 games).

Carson Wentz in 2014: 228-358 (63.7%) for 3,111 yards, 25 TDs, and 10 INTs for an efficiency rating of 154.1. Rushing he had 138 carries for 642 yards (4.7 yards per carry) and 6 TDs (16 games).

Easton Stick in 2017: 164-264 (62.1%) for 2,466 yards, 28 TDs, and 8 INTs for an efficiency rating of 169.5. Rushing he had 112 carries for 664 yards (5.9 yards per carry) and 12 TDs (15 games).

Easton Stick in 2018: 175-281 (62.3%) for 2,752 yards, 28 TDs, and 7 INTs for an efficiency rating of 172.4. Rushing he had 117 carries for 677 yards (5.8 yards per carry) and 17 TDs (15 games).

Trey Lance in 2019: 186-277 (67.1%) for 2,714 yards, 28 TDs, and 0 INTs for an efficiency rating of 182.8. Rushing he has 129 carries for 934 yards (6.7 yards per carry) and 13 TDs (15 games - so far).


I'd say Jensen in 2013 and Stick in 2018 could make an argument just based on total TDs but Lance's efficiency (both throwing and running) has been better this year. Hopefully he can add one more game of impressive numbers to those totals!

I was going to do this but thanks for doing it. One stat that gets left out is that trey has only lost one fumble this year. I believe u can say he has had the best offensive year even even if we lose. It is statistically just and insane year.

[wagsabison]

I thought Easton’s season last year would be tough to beat. Trey basically matched it and improved on it... as a freshman.


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[gizmo]

Obviously, Lance's season has been one for the ages. Of course, it helps that he is playing on the greatest FCS team of all time.

[Vet70]

If the championship game is not won the discussion of Lance's first season will always be "it was great but....".

[EC8CH]

If the championship game is not won the discussion of Lance's first season will always be "it was great but....".

Pretty sure that's what Lance signed up for though.

[Vet70]

True. Personally I just don't see it as being in the discussion as the "the greatest in program history " without the final piece.

[unbison]

True. Personally I just don't see it as being in the discussion as the "the greatest in program history " without the final piece.

He statistically is having the greatest offensive season .... what don’t you get

[EC8CH]

He statistically is having the greatest offensive season .... what don’t you get

Maybe that stats alone don't necessarily make a season "great"?

[Vet70]

If the championship game is not won the discussion of Lance's first season will always be "it was great but....".


Maybe that stats alone don't necessarily make a season "great"?


He statistically is having the greatest offensive season .... what don’t you get

That is pretty much my point. And by the by I do get the statistics.

[MNLonghorn10]

Lakes made this assumption after 1 pass in the butler game and then had the balls to make a thread about it.


It's lakes' world and we're living in it. As usual he sees things and is one step ahead of us...... again

[56BISON73]

Lakes made this assumption after 1 pass in the butler game and then had the balls to make a thread about it.


It's lakes' world and we're living in it. As usual he sees things and is one step ahead of us...... again

https://i.imgur.com/eoiSXmt.jpg

[EC8CH]

It's lakes' world and we're living in it.

God help us all.

[123Gobison]

Lakes made this assumption after 1 pass in the butler game and then had the balls to make a thread about it.


It's lakes' world and we're living in it. As usual he sees things and is one step ahead of us...... again


He has surpassed Easton's record during his final year under a seasoned OC like Messingham. I am surprised Trey does not have a Wiki page yet. He is a top 10 QB in the country right now and at this rate he will be a 1st round NFL draft pick .

[El_Chapo]

Lakes made this assumption after 1 pass in the butler game and then had the balls to make a thread about it.


It's lakes' world and we're living in it. As usual he sees things and is one step ahead of us...... again

Lance 28 td 0 Int plus his rushing. I'd say Best season in history. He sounds like he would never leave NDSU. but I wouldnt blame him for going to SEC or somewhere big for 1 season. Gotta capitalize on Lamar Jackson MVP buzz,

[AKBison]

WTF...It's Christmas. Somebody please deep six this thread.

[Bisonwinagn]

Lance 28 td 0 Int plus his rushing. I'd say Best season in history. He sounds like he would never leave NDSU. but I wouldnt blame him for going to SEC or somewhere big for 1 season. Gotta capitalize on Lamar Jackson MVP buzz,

Who the hell is Lamar Jackson?

[heffray]

The whole “zero interceptions” stat, especially considering the pass attempts, yards, and TDs, is the most ridiculous stat in the list and should weigh heavily in this determination.

[El_Chapo]

The whole “zero interceptions” stat, especially considering the pass attempts, yards, and TDs, is the most ridiculous stat in the list and should weigh heavily in this determination.

Only thing i've found is Matt Blundin Virginia 1991 "he was a 2nd round draft pick" 0 Interceptions in 1991

ACC QB 135- 224 60.3%1902 yards 19 td 0 int 159.6 rating

[stevdock]

Lakes made this assumption after 1 pass in the butler game and then had the balls to make a thread about it.


It's lakes' world and we're living in it. As usual he sees things and is one step ahead of us...... again

Not going to be able to prove it but I said the same thing after his first pass.

[MankatoBison]

Not going to be able to prove it but I said the same thing after his first pass.

I texted my buddy and said "holy shit we're gonna win the next 4 national championships" lol. It was tongue in cheek, but I think its more likely than not

[heffray]

I texted my buddy and said "holy shit we're gonna win the next 4 national championships" lol. It was tongue in cheek, but I think its more likely than not

Some people say things to their friends. Others start threads on bisonville. And that’s the difference between Lakes and everyone else.

[KNOW IT ALL]

Drifting just a bit, I still recall the season Steve Walker had during the FCS transition phase, that dude was money!! I don't believe he gets the credit today that he should. NOBODY expected NDSU to win some of the games they did and his clutch play/throws were a giant part of winning, success, and recruiting/building a winning FCS program today... It was all questionable at the time.

[heffray]

Drifting just a bit, I still recall the season Steve Walker had during the FCS transition phase, that dude was money!! I don't believe he gets the credit today that he should. NOBODY expected NDSU to win some of the games they did and his clutch play/throws were a giant part of winning, success, and recruiting/building a winning FCS program today... It was all questionable at the time.

I think some of the first few posts listed that ‘07 season stats. Great numbers considering he could only play 11 games.

[Vet70]

Drifting just a bit, I still recall the season Steve Walker had during the FCS transition phase, that dude was money!! I don't believe he gets the credit today that he should. NOBODY expected NDSU to win some of the games they did and his clutch play/throws were a giant part of winning, success, and recruiting/building a winning FCS program today... It was all questionable at the time.

Beating SHSU with a TD pass to Heckondorh with 7 seconds left after they had just taken a lead was epic.

[heffray]

Beating SHSU with a TD pass to Heckondorh with 7 seconds left after they had taken a lead was epic.

Walker to Heckendorf was epic on many occasions, this probably being the best example.

[Mr Meaty]

Walker to Heckendorf was epic on many occasions, this probably being the best example.

No Bison fatigue then..:hide:

[EC8CH]

I think some of the first few posts listed that ‘07 season stats. Great numbers considering he could only play 11 games.

Walker had a flair for the dramatic, that much is sure.

[No_Skill]

Walker to Heckendorf was epic on many occasions, this probably being the best example.

His seats are in section 16. Same corner he threw that TD.

[CAS4127]

His seats are in section 16. Same corner he threw that TD.

Thought it was thrown to northeast corner of field?? 16 is in/near southwest corner


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[TAILG8R]

Thought it was thrown to northeast corner of field?? 16 is in/near southwest corner


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWas the thrown to southwest corner for sure.

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[Mr Meaty]

Thought it was thrown to northeast corner of field?? 16 is in/near southwest corner


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TD was in the corner by the students SW I am pretty sure of that. My seats on the NW sideline and waited for the crowd to react to it to know he caught it and was in for a TD.

[80ALUM]

Lakes made this assumption after 1 pass in the butler game and then had the balls to make a thread about it.


It's lakes' world and we're living in it. As usual he sees things and is one step ahead of us...... again

Why did I know the first response to this post would be from 56. You people never disappoint.

[scottietohottie]

Thought it was thrown to northeast corner of field?? 16 is in/near southwest corner


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It was thrown to the southwest corner. I was sitting in the northeast corner when he threw it. I was probably standing at the time. Jumping up and down afterwards. No fatigue that day I didn't leave early like some.

[scottietohottie]

Would anyone admit to leaving early for that game? Don't belong here if you did anyways.

[NorthernBison]

Would anyone admit to leaving early for that game? Don't belong here if you did anyways.

I know someone who left after SHSU scored.

My Son was 9 years old. He looked at me after the SHSU score and asked if we were going to leave. I told him the game wasn’t over and we weren’t leaving until the clock said 0:00.

We got to the tailgate lot afterwards and one of our group was getting grief because he heard the roar from the concourse as he was leaving. Never live it down.


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[CAS4127]

https://nacda.com/news/2020/1/8/div1aaada-fcs-ada-names-2019-offensive-and-defensive-players-of-the-year2.aspx


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[heffray]

https://nacda.com/news/2020/1/8/div1aaada-fcs-ada-names-2019-offensive-and-defensive-players-of-the-year2.aspx


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How closely does this award track with the eventual Peyton winners in history?

[Snowgoose]

[QUOTE=CAS4127;1400766]https://nacda.com/news/2020/1/8/div1aaada-fcs-ada-names-2019-offensive-and-defensive-players-of-the-year2.aspx


He is very deserving of this award. Absolutely remarkable season. Not sure this season can ever be duplicated. To have basically no turnovers from the second series of the season on is simply ridiculous.

[westnodak93bison]

Good grief. Congrats to Trey & the Bison

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[MNLonghorn10]

I swear if that pud from Sacramento St wins the Payton...

we already know its going to be someone with 10 more passing TD's than Lance. Remember Hodges winning it last year? He couldn't even get his team to the playoffs. I guess the sting wore a little off now that hes started a few NFL games after the 2 QBs in front of him got injured but still.

[BamaBison1]

It's been one of the greatest QB seasons so far; I'm just hoping we haven't inadvertently jinxed it by mentioning it. But, so long as he doesn't end up like Tom Brady in Super Bowl XLII, Trey has a great claim on best season ever. :)

[oldmantutters]

How closely does this award track with the eventual Peyton winners in history?2018 - Duck Hodges
2017 - Jeremiah Briscoe
2016 - Cooper Kupp
2015 - Cooper Kupp

WPA
2018 - Duck Hodges
2017 - Jeremiah Briscoe
2016 - Jeremiah Briscoe
2015 - Cooper Kupp

Loose correlation.

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[heffray]

2018 - Duck Hodges
2017 - Jeremiah Briscoe
2016 - Cooper Kupp
2015 - Cooper Kupp

WPA
2018 - Duck Hodges
2017 - Jeremiah Briscoe
2016 - Jeremiah Briscoe
2015 - Cooper Kupp

Loose correlation.

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75% alignment, I'll take it! :)

[imabison]

[QUOTE=CAS4127;1400766]https://nacda.com/news/2020/1/8/div1aaada-fcs-ada-names-2019-offensive-and-defensive-players-of-the-year2.aspx


He is very deserving of this award. Absolutely remarkable season. Not sure this season can ever be duplicated. To have basically no turnovers from the second series of the season on is simply ridiculous.

did anyone hear izzo last night during his story on Trey Lance, he said that Trey is not attending the Payton award ceremonie, but his parents are going. Also was it McFeeley yesterday that said the voters or people making the decision are being very tight lipped.

[89MTBISON]

Congrats Trey.

[Kevin]

Trey just won the fucking Payton!!!! Let’s go!!!!!!!!!!

[Bison03]

Wow!!!!!! Unbelievable!!!!

[NDSU1980]

This is a sign. Nothing stops Trey or the Bison tomorrow.

[TAILG8R]

That's ridiculous!!

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[NDSU1980]

Official story from the NCAA
https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2020-01-10/north-dakota-state-qb-trey-lance-wins-2019-fcs-walter-payton-award

[Professor Chaos]

Yes

To answer the question this thread posed.

[wagsabison]

Pretty remarkable. Great season by Trey... so far!

Helped there weren’t any other players that had ridiculous numbers.


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[HerdistheWord]

Pinch me. Holy crap!

[Bison03]

Ladies and gentlemen....Trey is a FRESHMAN!! I hope y’all got your hotel rooms in the Dallas metro reserved for the next few years!

[HerdistheWord]

Pretty remarkable. Great season by Trey... so far!

Helped there weren’t any other players that had ridiculous numbers.


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Trey may have the most ridiculous number ever posted...0 INT’s

[steelbison]

I swear if that pud from Sacramento St wins the Payton...

we already know its going to be someone with 10 more passing TD's than Lance. Remember Hodges winning it last year? He couldn't even get his team to the playoffs. I guess the sting wore a little off now that hes started a few NFL games after the 2 QBs in front of him got injured but still.

Hodges was horrible. I had to watch that stiff play for my Steelers. Easton is twice the QB he is. I think a limp noodle has more arm strength than Duck.


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[steelbison]

Congrats Trey! Totally deserved to win. Anyone know if a freshman has ever won this award?


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[El_Chapo]

Trey just won the fucking Payton!!!! Let’s go!!!!!!!!!!

It's not a MVP award? its Offensive only? and Buchanan is Defensive only?

so there isnt 1 Overall MVP. I thought the Walter payton was MVP.

[NDSU1980]

Congrats Trey! Totally deserved to win. Anyone know if a freshman has ever won this award?


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No freshman has ever won in the 33 year history of the award

[semobison]

Congrats Trey! Totally deserved to win. Anyone know if a freshman has ever won this award?


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First freshman winner ever!

[Bison"FANatic"]

Congrats to the young man!!!!!!!

[ndsubison1]

Crazy to think back in August. Let's get that trophy tomorrow.

[MNLonghorn10]

They finally got it right. Looking at the previous winners...I can see Kupp and maybe Jimmy G(weak OVC competition tho) being legit winners.

armanti was pre NDSU so

[BisonNeil]

So a trivia question. How many Heisman and Payton award winners have ever won a national championship in the year they won it?

[El_Chapo]

I did say Trey Lance would be the best QB ever at NDSU.... kids a dam rockstar and should be at Boise State.. man we are Blessed!!

[MNLonghorn10]

So a trivia question. How many Heisman and Payton award winners have ever won a national championship in the year they won it?

no chance at getting the payton..

Tebow would be one

[Vet70]

Well deserved and surprised others recognized it.

[NDSU1980]

I did say Trey Lance would be the best QB ever at NDSU.... kids a dam rockstar and should be at Boise State.. man we are Blessed!!

That's what Boise gets for being FBS.

[ndsubison1]

no chance at getting the payton..

Tebow would be one

Tebow won it when they didnt win it. Jameis and Cam did.

[MNLonghorn10]

Tebow won it when they didnt win it. Jameis and Cam did.

oh woops..i thought tebow 2 peated...that must've been the chris leak years?

[ndsubison1]

oh woops..i thought tebow 2 peated...that must've been the chris leak years?

Yup. Tebow only once. Troy Smith and Bradford won when Florida won it all.

[ThunderDan]

I did say Trey Lance would be the best QB ever at NDSU.... kids a dam rockstar and should be at Boise State.. man we are Blessed!!

Well you do say every recruit ever, is the next big thing... Eventually you gotta be right. Don't make us go back to your Jose Mohler and Nick Mertens statements

[B. b. bison]

First player from the MVFC/Gateway to win as well.

[bisoneer]

Yeah!!! He won it!!! So happy for him, the team, the coaches and his family!!!!!!!!!!
This is a big deal to win both the Jerry Rice and the Walter Payton! WOW!!!!!

[bisonp]

Just saw the news... What an accomplishment! Well deserved Trey.

[NDSUSR]

If NDSU wins tomorrow it would be the most incredible year in NDSU football history IMO.

[TAILG8R]

If NDSU wins tomorrow it would be the most incredible year in NDSU football history IMO.Just when you think there is nothing else to be accomplished.

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[westnodak93bison]

Hel yeah!

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[23Bison]

Congratulations to Trey Lance!!! Now go finish it!!! Go Bison!!!

[WeAreThePride]

So a trivia question. How many Heisman and Payton award winners have ever won a national championship in the year they won it?

Cam Newton was one.

[2011BisonAlumni]

So a trivia question. How many Heisman and Payton award winners have ever won a national championship in the year they won it?

Bo Levi Mitchell from EWU in 2010
Dave Dickenson from Montana in 1995
Adrian Peterson from Georgia Southern in 1999
Michael Payton from Marshall in 1992

Heisman has happened more times during the 33 year time span the Payton award has been in place for:

Derrick Henry from Alabama in 2015
Jameis Winston from Florida State in 2013
Cam Newton from Auburn in 2010
Mark Ingram Jr from Alabama in 2009
Matt Leinart from USC in 2004
Charles Woodson from Michigan in 1997 (split title)
Danny Wuerffel from Florida in 1996
Charlie Ward from Florida State in 1993

Biggest difference is the Heisman voters ignore stat padders from G5 schools and actually pay attention to level of competition when determining who the best offensive player in the FBS is.

Before the 1990’s, there were a handful of other times the Heisman winner walked home a national champion. Other than Tony Dorsett in 1976, all the other winners were back from leather helmet days.

https://www.heisman.com/articles/heisman-and-national-champion/

If LSU and NDSU both win it all this year, it will mark the second time ever that both the Heisman and Walter Payton award winners both were on national championship teams in the same year.

[Bisman]

Bison freshman quarterback Lance wins Walter Payton Award (includes video)

https://www.inforum.com/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/football/4859567-Bison-freshman-quarterback-Lance-wins-Walter-Payton-Award

[Bisonator98]

Congrats to Trey! What a season he's had, hopefully he caps it with a MVP in the championship today! GO BISON!!!

[El_Chapo]

I don't like this weather for Trey Today... I really wanted a showcase for him on ABC nationally.
Lets hope he runs all over JMU

[unbison]

Yes greatest season ever period hands down... and the kids a Freshman

[Kevin]

Greatest season in FCS history.

[BFKasper14]

Yeah this isn’t a question anymore. Thread title can be changed.


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[WeAreThePride]

Greatest season in FCS history.

And it's not even close. Walter Payton. Jerry Rice. 16-0. Zero INTs. 40 some touchdowns. I haven't heard who the chipper MVP was, but to me it's obviously Lance.

Name a QB who has come even close to that collection of accomplishments.

[Hammerhead]

Would you say Lance is one of the top twenty QBs in all of college football?

[WeAreThePride]

Would you say Lance is one of the top twenty QBs in all of college football?

I don't think there are 20 teams in all of college football that would not trade their starting QB for Lance right now. Maybe 10, maybe even 5.

[heffray]

I don't think there are 20 teams in all of college football that would not trade their starting QB for Lance right now. Maybe 10, maybe even 5.

He’s easily the best in College Football.

[MNLonghorn10]

He’s easily the best in College Football.

ok tap the brakes.

[heffray]

ok tap the brakes.

Who’s better?

[WeAreThePride]

Who’s better?

Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence. Likely Tua. But they have several years of experience on Trey.

[BisManBison]

If he can stay healthy, he will crush Easton’s wins record as a starting QB. He’s going to go over 55 and I would say quite easily.

[scottietohottie]

If he can stay healthy, he will crush Easton’s wins record as a starting QB. He’s going to go over 55 and I would say quite easily.

Please. He'll be getting millions before he gets to 55 wins.

[Kevin]

Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence. Likely Tua. But they have several years of experience on Trey.

Tua with two hips or one?

[Kevin]

Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence. Likely Tua. But they have several years of experience on Trey.

Joe Burrow only completes 77% of his passes and Trevor Lawrence has terrible hair.

I give the edge to Trey.

[MNLonghorn10]

Who’s better?

Burrow, Lawrence, Fields, Herbert. Probably Fromm. we cant forget he's doing this against a full slate of FCS, with some real puds sprinkled in there. I dont think Trey can run like that vs p5 teams.

[NDSU1980]

If he can stay healthy, he will crush Easton’s wins record as a starting QB. He’s going to go over 55 and I would say quite easily.

Yea of little faith. I'm shooting for 61-0

[BisManBison]

Yea of little faith. I'm shooting for 61-0

Ha ha ha, I’m considering him sitting a few games over the next 3 years lol.

[tony]

I consulted a higher power to confirm my beliefs:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Magic_8_Ball_-_Instrument_Of_Evil%3F_%282426454804%29.jpg/220px-Magic_8_Ball_-_Instrument_Of_Evil%3F_%282426454804%29.jpg

[gabisonfan]

Yea of little faith. I'm shooting for 61-0
I am with you, number 38 will be at the top of the list next fall. Certainly would set the stage for another 15 -0 season.

[LukeDuke]

Joe Burrow only completes 77% of his passes and Trevor Lawrence has terrible hair.

I give the edge to Trey.

Ha awesome!

Obviously he has dedication staying here even with other, late offers. Any chance he doesn’t leave early?

[El_Chapo]

He'll be gone after next year to NFL if he duplicates this and I wouldn't blame him (since he redshirted he can declare)

[Kevin]

He'll be gone after next year to NFL if he duplicates this and I wouldn't blame him (since he redshirted he can declare)

I would say there's a 0% chance of that happening.

The debate on reddit/twitter seems to be whether or not he transfers for his senior year to get a bigger spotlight. I'd assume Carson's success in the draft would enforce that it isn't necessary.

[WeAreThePride]

He'll be gone after next year to NFL if he duplicates this and I wouldn't blame him (since he redshirted he can declare)

Has any FCS player ever declared early?

[El_Chapo]

Has any FCS player ever declared early?

Mcnair/Romo? i dunno. but if he does it again in 2020, you gotta go.

[semobison]

Has any FCS player ever declared early?

Just off the top of my head, Taiwan Jones, RB, EWU.

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

Fumbled twice at the mesh point this year. Needs to work on that. Have to admit I got a little nervous with the play calling in the second half.
But what can you say at this point except unbelievable. Great game

[HerdistheWord]

Trey has to refine his passing game before he sets his sights on the NFL. Physicality is a different beast at that level. He has the vision, speed, and balance as a runner and he has a great pocket presence, but there is no way he is ready to read and react to NFL defenses as a passer. I am excited to see how he continues to progress though.

[Bison4peat]

He'll be gone after next year to NFL if he duplicates this and I wouldn't blame him (since he redshirted he can declare)

He has the skill set. And in a QB starved NFL he has a chance.

[BiZon22]

I would say there's a 0% chance of that happening.

The debate on reddit/twitter seems to be whether or not he transfers for his senior year to get a bigger spotlight. I'd assume Carson's success in the draft would enforce that it isn't necessary.

Yeah I don’t think he’s going anywhere. He wouldn’t gain anything. Like you said, Carson was the number 2 overall pick and if the eagles would have got the number 1 pick he would have been number 1 overall. There’s no reason to transfer

[Vet70]

Greatest season and Trey is great but some of the comments strike me as overboard.

[scottietohottie]

Undefeated next year with zero picks and what's he got to come back for after that? Transfer? Yeah right transfer to the big leagues.

[Kevin]

Greatest season and Trey is great but some of the comments strike me as overboard.

Look, all we're saying is if the Bengals took him instead of that scrub Burrows that they'd most likely (definitely) win a super bowl or six.

[aces1180]

I would say there's a 0% chance of that happening.

The debate on reddit/twitter seems to be whether or not he transfers for his senior year to get a bigger spotlight. I'd assume Carson's success in the draft would enforce that it isn't necessary.

I'd be lying if I haven't been nervous about something like this happening in a couple years.

Can you imagine the intros on SNL...Trey Lance, Michigan.

But with Hedberg as his QB coach and the fact that the last two NDSU QBs have been drafted, I think he will stay until after his junior year and then declare.

[tony]

Let's see: 0 ints, 29 TDs passing, 13 TDs rushing, won the Jerry Rice and the Walter Payton awards, 16-0, and, oh yeah, exactly 1100 yards rushing which hasn't happened at NDSU since Chris "Why isn't he in the College Football Hall of Fame" Simdorn.

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

Let's see: 0 ints, 29 TDs passing, 13 TDs rushing, won the Jerry Rice and the Walter Payton awards, 16-0, and, oh yeah, exactly 1100 yards rushing which hasn't happened at NDSU since Chris "Why isn't he in the College Football Hall of Fame" Simdorn.

Not to mention win a chipper. Yeah, pretty good. He’ll be a fun one to watch for a few more years. Really glad he’s a Bison

[Vet70]

SS understatement of the decade: "We need better players."

[bison22]

Yep!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tjamz]

Has any FCS player ever declared early?Terrance West, Taiwan Jones....

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[123Gobison]

Would you say Lance is one of the top twenty QBs in all of college football?

4th ranked QB in 2023 for what its worth.

http://www.draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=1030298&DraftYear=2023

[El_Chapo]

He has the skill set. And in a QB starved NFL he has a chance.

THIS RIghT HERE ^^ NFL salivates over QB's Carson Wentz prime example

[Bison20]

I'd be lying if I haven't been nervous about something like this happening in a couple years.

Can you imagine the intros on SNL...Trey Lance, Michigan.

But with Hedberg as his QB coach and the fact that the last two NDSU QBs have been drafted, I think he will stay until after his junior year and then declare.

I would argue that after wentz going 2nd overall that he has a better chance to hurt his draft stock more than help it by transferring.

[89MTBISON]

9228
Trey is good at football

[HerdBot]

Trey is a stud and probably my favorite player ever. But he can improve so much. The passing game was conservative with him and understandably so, since he is young and leaning. Much like Easton, he can take his game to the next level in future years. To be a high pick in the NFL, he will need a greater body of work and take his passing game to the next level, which he will get the chance. So excited for the future

[2011BisonAlumni]

I would argue that after wentz going 2nd overall that he has a better chance to hurt his draft stock more than help it by transferring.

Totally agree with this statement. Wentz's success in the NFL will definitely reduce the narrative of "ya, but level of competition". If he transfers and isn't as dominant, his stock will fall.

I am not sure where Trey is on graduating in 4 years, but the only way I see him transferring is if he is too bored. Truth be told, if he wins the next two national championships and another WP award, he might simply want another challenge. I wouldn't fault him for doing it either.

But....if he wins the next two national championships, another WP award and drastically progresses as a passer, he will be leaving early for the draft versus staying another year at NDSU or transferring. Whenever he gets a consensus 2nd round grade and better, he is gone IMO.

[DCinOK]

Maybe I'm delusional, but I see shades of Patrick Mahomes when I watch Trey play.

[ndsubison1]

Maybe I'm delusional, but I see shades of Patrick Mahomes when I watch Trey play.

Plays similar to him and Watson.

[westnodak93bison]

Maybe I'm delusional, but I see shades of Patrick Mahomes when I watch Trey play.More of a Mahomes/Lamar Jackson combo

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[HerdBot]

Totally agree with this statement. Wentz's success in the NFL will definitely reduce the narrative of "ya, but level of competition". If he transfers and isn't as dominant, his stock will fall.

I am not sure where Trey is on graduating in 4 years, but the only way I see him transferring is if he is too bored. Truth be told, if he wins the next two national championships and another WP award, he might simply want another challenge. I wouldn't fault him for doing it either.

But....if he wins the next two national championships, another WP award and drastically progresses as a passer, he will be leaving early for the draft versus staying another year at NDSU or transferring. Whenever he gets a consensus 2nd round grade and better, he is gone IMO.

QBs in the NFL is more mental than any position in history. That's why you see QBs playing into their 40s now. The only way to advance your mental skillset is to play more games. So Trey would help himself by playing 4 full years and honing his craft. Passing is much more important in the NFL than running. He needs to learn the offense so good, he could really showcase his skills.

I always look to Vernon Adam's. He had this aurora about him and looked pretty ordinary as a Duck. Proved he couldn't stay healthy and looked pretty average, although he had some good stats. He went undrafted after being in the conversation and hes a CFL QB now. Meanwhile Wentz comes back from injury the same year and wins a championship on his last game and that's where the hype train started. Same happened with Josh Allen

[23Bison]

Draftscout.com currently has Trey listed as the #4 QB for the 2023 draft class.

[Christopher Moen]

Maybe I'm delusional, but I see shades of Patrick Mahomes when I watch Trey play.

The way he winds up and throws, especially after seeing him from a lower angle yesterday, I see a bit of a young Elway in him. Thankfully, he’s not as stubborn to keep needing to throw it to the only receiver covered by three defenders.


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[thebootfitter]

Draftscout.com currently has Trey listed as the #4 QB for the 2023 draft class.
Maybe he'll stay a Bison and win the Heisman??? :biggrin:

[MNLonghorn10]

Draftscout.com currently has Trey listed as the #4 QB for the 2023 draft class.Thatll go up

[gumby013]

Maybe he'll stay a Bison and win the Heisman??? :biggrin:

You were a poet and you didn't even know it.

[wagsabison]

I’d don’t think it’s often grad transfers really succeed all that often. Have to learn a new system, develop chemistry with new receivers, and adjust to a new situation/coaching staff. Trey isn’t going anywhere. His receiving corps here is going to be pretty damn good.


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[WYOBISONMAN]

As has been stated, Trey plays all 4 years at NDSU and it gives him the best shot at preserving a high draft slot as a QB for the NFL.

[yopaulie]

As has been stated, Trey plays all 4 years at NDSU and it gives him the best shot at preserving a high draft slot as a QB for the NFL.

I can see going 2 more years from a maturing process, but if he is a consensus top 4 QB after junior season, it wouldn't make sense professionally to stay. Would only make sense if he wanted to for personal reasons...enjoy college, 4 yrs records, etc.

[westnodak93bison]

As has been stated, Trey plays all 4 years at NDSU and it gives him the best shot at preserving a high draft slot as a QB for the NFL.But what if the Ducks stuff our run game and Trey shreds them up in the pass game? Then all bets are off. #highestlevel

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[17>1]

Why anyone would start getting nervous about something that may or may not happen 2-3 years in the future is beyond me. Kid is gonna be a sophomore next year, coming off the greatest season we’ve probably ever seen at the FCS level. Just enjoy the ride!!

[El_Chapo]

Why anyone would start getting nervous about something that may or may not happen 2-3 years in the future is beyond me. Kid is gonna be a sophomore next year, coming off the greatest season we’ve probably ever seen at the FCS level. Just enjoy the ride!!

that's right EVERYONE ENJOY HIS LAST YEAR IN COLLEGE ! :)

[Vet70]

Why anyone would start getting nervous about something that may or may not happen 2-3 years in the future is beyond me. Kid is gonna be a sophomore next year, coming off the greatest season we’ve probably ever seen at the FCS level. Just enjoy the ride!!

^^^^^^^^This. this and this. Posters started the same thing when Cox was a Freshman.

[Vet70]

that's right EVERYONE ENJOY HIS LAST YEAR IN COLLEGE ! :)

Do people pay more attention to what you post if you use caps? Asking for a friend.

[GreenfieldBison]

that's right EVERYONE ENJOY HIS LAST YEAR IN COLLEGE ! :)

Oh sure, could be. Based on what we have seen from him thus far by this time next year he will probably have completed the full option year of his Rhodes (without setting foot in Oxford) plus be a fully board certified neurosurgeon (even though we do not have a medical school.) I used the purple here but just to be crystal clear this is at least somewhat facetious.

[Christopher Moen]

Do people pay more attention to what you post if you use caps? Asking for a friend.

Maybe one of his other aliases that loves to use caps (KNOW IT ALL) can answer this.

[southcliffbison]

that's right EVERYONE ENJOY HIS LAST YEAR IN COLLEGE ! :)

Haven't ever heard of a QB who has completed his sophomore year declaring for the draft...…...especially from an FCS school

[Stanger86]

Second-best statistical passing season in program history (Jensen 2013), plus being a 1,100 yard rusher with 14 rushing TDs.

Yeah, I don't think it's a stretch to say it was the best season ever.

[Barney]

You are all forgetting about Bison Pride, Playing for your Brothers. Lance will stay a Bison for 3 more years!

[Hammerhead]

You are all forgetting about Bison Pride, Playing for your Brothers. Lance will stay a Bison for 3 more years!

It's not like he has to go somewhere else to be noticed by the NFL.

[Bisman]

A story about Trey Lance in Bison Illustrated: https://www.bisonillustrated.com/bi-for-kids-trey-lance-and-positivity/

[cbline]

that's right EVERYONE ENJOY HIS LAST YEAR IN COLLEGE ! :)

I continue to be proven wrong. I thought that I had read the most stupid thing in the world, and now even that has been topped! (or, should that be "bottomed"?)

[unbison]

It's not like he has to go somewhere else to be noticed by the NFL.

No but the nfl could call after another all world season

[Christopher Moen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32UcdqHda3k

[El_Chapo]

Great Trey Lance interview
from his HS BB days in a loss in a game with 4 overtimes and 3 buzzer beaters

https://www.facebook.com/295441547256002/posts/2057866134346859/

[El_Chapo]

Trey on crutches at BBALL game. hopefully just precautionary with a twisted ankle or something?

[Mr Meaty]

Trey on crutches at BBALL game. hopefully just precautionary with a twisted ankle or something?

Find out , ask your sources

[El_Chapo]

Trey on crutches at BBALL game. hopefully just precautionary with a twisted ankle or something?

well my source is 2 former bisonvillers that claim they saw him in crutches 2nite.. Beers are involved though

[El_Chapo]

So no other reports? cmon. I want 1 b4 bar close here

[scottietohottie]

What the heck were you drinking? Corona?

[wagsabison]

Try Facebook


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[El_Chapo]

sounds like precautionary or a knee/ankle scoped but yes he was on crutches.
heart done skipping beats, we good

[scottietohottie]

sounds like precautionary or a knee/ankle scoped but yes he was on crutches.
heart done skipping beats, we good

Well geezs you could have let us know last night. I didn't get any sleep!!!

[Rock]

Remember the show “Coach”? There was this one where the star quarterback faked a broken leg, then took off the cast, got out of the wheelchair and won the bowl game!

BRILLIANT MOVE ENTZ! Publicly lame, but privately game.


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[BFKasper14]

sounds like precautionary or a knee/ankle scoped but yes he was on crutches.
heart done skipping beats, we good

He had hip troubles during the season and just got it cleared up. Nothing to get too worried about.


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[Bison03]

https://www.inforum.com/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/football/4954810-Bison-quarterback-Lance-on-crutches-undergoes-procedure-to-address-old-injury

[WeAreThePride]

https://www.inforum.com/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/football/4954810-Bison-quarterback-Lance-on-crutches-undergoes-procedure-to-address-old-injury

adblocker filter AND a survey question to read the article?

Weak sauce.

[MNLonghorn10]

Lakes right again and the haters are no where to be found

[NDSUSR]

Lakes right again and the haters are no where to be found


It was reported on twitter. Lakes main source of "news". Get off his nuts.

[El_Chapo]

It was reported on twitter. Lakes main source of "news". Get off his nuts.

actually I had it b4 the basketball game last night. but waited for someone with eyes on him to confirm. I get my info B4 twitter

[MNLonghorn10]

It was reported on twitter. Lakes main source of "news". Get off his nuts.

Nope wrong again.

[Professor Chaos]

Lakes right again and the haters are no where to be found
Who cares???

[NDSU1980]

Who cares???

++++10 million.

[MNLonghorn10]

Who cares???

Ahhh. So he was right initially... the haters shatted on him...and now who cares??

[Professor Chaos]

Ahhh. So he was right initially... the haters shatted on him...and now who cares??
Who cares who "broke the news first".... that kind of dumb mentality is what led to everyone thinking all of Kobe Bryant's daughters were on the helicopter he died on. We're 6+ months away from an actual game... this kind of information is interesting but hardly worth a penis measuring content about who was first to know.

[El_Chapo]

at least mcfooly follows us 1000% here

[heffray]

Who cares who "broke the news first".... that kind of dumb mentality is what led to everyone thinking all of Kobe Bryant's daughters were on the helicopter he died on. We're 6+ months away from an actual game... this kind of information is interesting but hardly worth a penis measuring content about who was first to know.

I think Longhorns point is more that the Lakes haters love to pile on when he says stupid shit, but nowhere to be found when he actually posts something good and relevant. I don’t have that bad experiences many of you all do with with Lakes, so pardon my perspective on that... I know he was banned for good reason... but he actually does post some good takes and good info from time to time. It’s disingenuous to say everything he does on here is shitty.

[Bisonator98]

I think Longhorns point is more that the Lakes haters love to pile on when he says stupid shit, but nowhere to be found when he actually posts something good and relevant. I don’t have that bad experiences many of you all do with with Lakes, so pardon my perspective on that... I know he was banned for good reason... but he actually does post some good takes and good info from time to time. It’s disingenuous to say everything he does on here is shitty.

Who ripped him this time? What haters? I don't see anyone bashing him from Friday nights post. Longhorn just likes to suck him off, it's really pathetic.

[heffray]

Who ripped him this time? What haters? I don't see anyone bashing him from Friday nights post. Longhorn just likes to suck him off, it's really pathetic.

I don’t see anything wrong with Longhorn sticking up for Lakes when people shit on him for no reason... the Entz to Colorado thread is a great example of this.

[Bisonator98]

I don’t see anything wrong with Longhorn sticking up for Lakes when people shit on him for no reason... the Entz to Colorado thread is a great example of this.

Lakes is a big boy he doesn't need a lap dog defending him.

[heffray]

Lakes is a big boy he doesn't need a lap dog defending him.

I don’t disagree, but largely this is not how the internet works. This is a site about information and fun. It’s less fun and clouds information when people are shitty to people for no reason. That’s my point. Not picking sides.

[Christopher Moen]

I don’t disagree, but largely this is not how the internet works. This is a site about information and fun. It’s less fun and clouds information when people are shitty to people for no reason. That’s my point. Not picking sides.

People’s dislike for Sammy goes beyond what he does here.


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[Bisonator98]

I don’t disagree, but largely this is not how the internet works. This is a site about information and fun. It’s less fun and clouds information when people are shitty to people for no reason. That’s my point. Not picking sides.

There's plenty of reason in Lakes case, he brings or at least brought a lot of it on himself and burned too many bridges. Is what it is, best to ignore it if it bothers you or anyone else. Like you said it's the internet gotta have thick skin.

[heffray]

People’s dislike for Sammy goes beyond what he does here.


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Right and I just don’t have that personal experience with him, and I would guess neither does 95% of posters on here...

[heffray]

There's plenty of reason in Lakes case, he brings or at least brought a lot of it on himself and burned too many bridges. Is what it is, best to ignore it if it bothers you or anyone else. Like you said it's the internet gotta have thick skin.

This is a good take. And honestly it’s what I usually do... and it is also what I wish most people would do instead of shit on him for posting relevant information.

[HerdistheWord]

Lakes was right. He tends to be right about a lot of this stuff. He is like the TMZ of this board. He embellishes a lot of stuff in his posts, but when it comes to juicy behind the scenes gossip, he usually gets the scoop. I don’t have the personal experience you all have with him, but I think you can still give him props for being on top of the scoop and being correct. The ridicule would be warranted if the information didn’t check out, but in this case, he got it right.

[Vet70]

First, it was Chapo who broke the story for BV and not this guy Lakes. Second, I have to admit he does provide some good information when he gets off of certain topics where he can make some wild assumptions.

[heffray]

First, it was Chapo who broke the story for BV and not this guy Lakes. Second, I have to admit he does provide some good information when he gets off of certain topics where he can make some wild assumptions.

All I do is rep your takes, I think... FFS...

[MNLonghorn10]

Who ripped him this time? What haters? I don't see anyone bashing him from Friday nights post. Longhorn just likes to suck him off, it's really pathetic.



i call him a moron all of the time. On here and texting. Thats hardly sucking him off.

[El_Chapo]

Ill get this back on track:

Trey Lance #4 QB in 2023 NFL Draft right now.

http://www.draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=1030298&DraftYear=2023

[Rock]

Ill get this back on track:

Trey Lance #4 QB in 2023 NFL Draft right now.

http://www.draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=1030298&DraftYear=2023

Maybe, if 4 qbs go in the top 10.


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[WeAreThePride]

Ahhh. So he was right initially... the haters shatted on him...and now who cares??

Not shatted, past tense. I continue to shit him.

[El_Chapo]

Maybe, if 4 qbs go in the top 10.


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wonder how he stacks up in the 2021 draft?

[El_Chapo]

Phoenix was having fun with Trey's crutches, almost had 2 guys on crutches after that.... haha.

[westnodak93bison]

Phoenix was having fun with Trey's crutches, almost had 2 guys on crutches after that.... haha.Are you a creepy jock sniffing stalker type?

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[El_Chapo]

Are you a creepy jock sniffing stalker type?

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No its called Instagram dip$hit

[westnodak93bison]

No its called Instagram dip$hitOh ok.

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[NovaBison]

Just saw this -- podcast interview with Trey -- Episodes 21 and 22

Haven't listened yet but will be on way home from work

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/winning-is-not-everything/id1483859763#episodeGuid=27a93c58-7e8b-4f58-9a57-54745c51bca6

[El_Chapo]

Yea Sean Jensen the author sent those to https://www.facebook.com/NdsuBisonFootballFans/

part 1 was few weeks back. Really good stuff.

He even got Trey's mom on, haha.

[Herd]

Yea Sean Jensen the author sent those to https://www.facebook.com/NdsuBisonFootballFans/

part 1 was few weeks back. Really good stuff.

He even got Trey's mom on, haha.

Chapo, thanks for point me to this link. Great stuff, thank you!

I would direct you to one key pillar of Trey Lance, "Eliminating the negative Energy from your Life", Part 2 (7:15). I would urge you to consider this as you post on this board.

[Stanger86]

NFL Network draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah today on the Rich Eisen Show:

"Believe it or not, there's a QB at NDSU next year that's gonna probably come out. 28 TDs, no INTs. Unbelievable athlete. Teams love him....Trey Lance, get to know that name!"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhHdGt_VcTw&&t=617

[wagsabison]

NFL Network draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah today on the Rich Eisen Show:

"Believe it or not, there's a QB at NDSU next year that's gonna probably come out. 28 TDs, no INTs. Unbelievable athlete. Teams love him....Trey Lance, get to know that name!"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhHdGt_VcTw&&t=617

For a guy who doesn’t even know Trey’s name off the top of his head he makes a pretty bold assumption.


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[Vet70]

NFL Network draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah today on the Rich Eisen Show:

"Believe it or not, there's a QB at NDSU next year that's gonna probably come out. 28 TDs, no INTs. Unbelievable athlete. Teams love him....Trey Lance, get to know that name!"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhHdGt_VcTw&&t=617

He mentions Lance at about the 10:20 mark. Time for BV to
https://i.imgur.com/IJnxZ3w.gif

[Stanger86]

For a guy who doesn’t even know Trey’s name off the top of his head he makes a pretty bold assumption.

Assumption, sure. But most guys who are putting up numbers like he has and getting draft reviews he has are going to enter the draft at their first opportunity.....for Trey, that's next year.

[TAILG8R]

Assumption, sure. But most guys who are putting up numbers like he has and getting draft reviews he has are going to enter the draft at their first opportunity.....for Trey, that's next year.0.1 percent chance of that happening.

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[CAS4127]

Assumption, sure. But most guys who are putting up numbers like he has and getting draft reviews he has are going to enter the draft at their first opportunity.....for Trey, that's next year.

Good God! TL has way more to prove. If the Ducks eat him up, these same “talking heads” will too.

I hope we focus on getting our RBs solid and angry for this season. Haven’t had that in long time, and you’d thing TR would understand that. I’m a bit tired of not having 1 or 2 dominant, physical RBs.


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[Stanger86]

If the Ducks eat him up, these same “talking heads” will too.
And if they don't?

[Bison"FANatic"]

Assumption, sure. But most guys who are putting up numbers like he has and getting draft reviews he has are going to enter the draft at their first opportunity.....for Trey, that's next year.

So how close are you to Trey, says your from Marshall and joined Bisonville the month Trey commited?

[Vet70]

And if they don't?

Unless he is an absolute lock for a high pick he would be foolish to come out.

[CAS4127]

And if they don't?

I’m predicting that it will be a “Meh” showing because the Ducks won’t let him win/dominate the game. They will force us to beat them otherwise. If they don’t, then that’s just dumb on their part. If TL goes off despite Ducks focusing on him, then I’ll come back to you.

To beat the Ducks, we will have to be multi-dimensional. That will include TL, but it won’t be all on him. We have to be able to run the football with RBs. This is not JMU Natty game where they just couldn’t account/make up for him.

I’ll hang up and listen on that point.


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[SDbison]

NFL Network draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah today on the Rich Eisen Show:

"Believe it or not, there's a QB at NDSU next year that's gonna probably come out. 28 TDs, no INTs. Unbelievable athlete. Teams love him....Trey Lance, get to know that name!"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhHdGt_VcTw&&t=617
So where is that quote in this video?

[djohnk]

So where is that quote in this video?

About 10 minutes in.

[bisonaudit]

1 in 1000 seems low, but there are a lot of moving parts even over and above another full year of football. CBA is going to be up, prospects of strike/ lockout on the horizon. Do you want to leave early and then there be no football? If you wait, how does rookie compensation change in the next agreement? Etc.

[23Bison]

It is kind of insane that they are speaking about Trey on his show. It is and isn’t unbelievable but the kid does have IT. I still don’t see him coming out after next season.

[GreenfieldBison]

Something else afoot it seems...

http://www.college-sports-journal.com/opinion-watch-out-north-dakota-state-the-big-10-is-coming-for-your-trey-lance-with-their-proposed-one-time-transfer-rule/

[Professor Chaos]

Something else afoot it seems...

http://www.college-sports-journal.com/opinion-watch-out-north-dakota-state-the-big-10-is-coming-for-your-trey-lance-with-their-proposed-one-time-transfer-rule/
The guy who wrote that was ranting about the new proposed transfer rules on AGS as well as he doesn't get it. He's convinced that top tier FBS programs are going to raid FCS schools which there's two problems with that:
1) They can't recruit any player enrolled at another school unless that players is in the transfer portal.
2) They still have the same scholarship limits so if they're "raiding" FCS players that means that FCS teams are going to start getting better recruits or they're going to get FBS transfers of their own that are getting scholarships pulled at these schools.

I compare it to the rules about athletes benefitting from their likeness and the doomsayers convinced that it would ruin college sports. NDSU will still be fine. If Trey Lance decides that it's better for him to play elsewhere and transfer to Minnesota I'll be pissed I'm sure but it's his life and I don't have any business telling him what's best for him. I think college athletes in the revenue sports should have more freedom when it comes to their ability to transfer.

[Vet70]

Something else afoot it seems...

http://www.college-sports-journal.com/opinion-watch-out-north-dakota-state-the-big-10-is-coming-for-your-trey-lance-with-their-proposed-one-time-transfer-rule/

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[SDbison]

Something else afoot it seems...

http://www.college-sports-journal.com/opinion-watch-out-north-dakota-state-the-big-10-is-coming-for-your-trey-lance-with-their-proposed-one-time-transfer-rule/ The title of the article just makes me mad. Obviously the hatred towards NDSU is coming out and the small time FCS schools would love to see the best NDSU players recruited away later in their careers by FBS teams so it can do the most damage. Any rule like this would be wrong. Hope the NCAA is smarter than that, but then history says different.

[GreenfieldBison]

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I'm not panicking. I am fully subscribed to the notion that once a player is inserted into the culture at NDSU and especially after they have as much exposure to it as Trey does then they will find it unappealing to depart that culture. That said I don't pretend to understand the inner workings of a 20 yr old mind. For that matter I don't understand the inner workings of my Yorkshire Terrierist's mind either. I just know who the boss is. It ain't me.

I see also that you posted a similar article about this topic over in the "Thing's JMU fans say..." thread a day or two back.

[oldmantutters]

I could see it going the other way. NDSU has been recruiting and then developing players so strongly lately. What that has equated to is fewer guys being 3-4 year starters. Sure there have been guys who have shined right away like Trey but it seems to me that there have been less and less. This will hurt teams that have guys who are playing early in their college career. Also it's not like NDSU is sending guy after guy to the pros, yes there have been more than most FCS teams that have gotten camp invites, but they aren't rivaling Ohio State or Alabama in that arena anytime soon. I do think the motive behind the rule change is disingenuous, I don't think it'll change much.

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[Professor Chaos]

The title of the article just makes me mad. Obviously the hatred towards NDSU is coming out and the small time FCS schools would love to see the best NDSU players recruited away later in their careers by FBS teams so it can do the most damage. Any rule like this would be wrong. Hope the NCAA is smarter than that, but then history says different.
Why is the rule wrong? Why should a track athlete be able to transfer and be immediately eligible to play (which happens today) but a football player or men's basketball player can't?

[heffray]

I don’t see it happening. He’s already getting draft buzz. No need to alienate a fanbase and start over somewhere just to get more publicity.

[bisonp]

Why is the rule wrong? Why should a track athlete be able to transfer and be immediately eligible to play (which happens today) but a football player or men's basketball player can't?

My guess would be because schools have a much larger investment to protect in their football and basketball programs.

[scottietohottie]

It's hard for some people to admit that Trey is where he wants to be, it's not a bad place, and is actually a really good place to learn and develop as a football player.

[Vet70]

I have no clue any more than anyone else as to whether or not Lance goes or stays. All I know is that it is totally out of our control and I for one am just chilling and enjoying the ride. Would it be a hit to Bison football? Sure it would, but as one of the announcers on the Natty said, Bison football is more than one player or coach.

[Bisonator98]

Trey is not going to be transferring to another school or leaving early for the NFL. He has 3 years to improve his game and trust me there is plenty to improve. Let's just enjoy watching him develop the next 3 years.

[Bison Dan]

Trey is not going to be transferring to another school or leaving early for the NFL. He has 3 years to improve his game and trust me there is plenty to improve. Let's just enjoy watching him develop the next 3 years.

Right on - he's a BISON.

[SDbison]

Why is the rule wrong? Why should a track athlete be able to transfer and be immediately eligible to play (which happens today) but a football player or men's basketball player can't? True team sports where players interact for a game result are more impacted by players just up and leaving. Entire game plans are affected, team chemisry, etc.

[ZHerd]

Trey is not going to be transferring to another school or leaving early for the NFL. He has 3 years to improve his game and trust me there is plenty to improve. Let's just enjoy watching him develop the next 3 years.

This. He can actually get quite a bit better, and as much as some would scoff at it, NDSU is qb U. The combination of the offense we run along with the qb coaching have made this program as good at developing QBs as pretty much anyone out there. If Trey continues to improve he has a great shot at being one of the first guys off the board right here where he is at.

[Hammerhead]

True team sports where players interact for a game result are more impacted by players just up and leaving. Entire game plans are affected, team chemisry, etc.

Then why doesn't this rule apply to softball, field hockey, etc., and is only limited to men's or women's basketball, football, and baseball?

[56BISON73]

The title of the article just makes me mad. Obviously the hatred towards NDSU is coming out and the small time FCS schools would love to see the best NDSU players recruited away later in their careers by FBS teams so it can do the most damage. Any rule like this would be wrong. Hope the NCAA is smarter than that, but then history says different.

Hatred towards NDSU has nothing to do with it. It has everything to do with with being consistent. The NCAA allows other team sport athletes to transfer. Why should a FB player be hamstrung if he wants to go to another school when he sees he wont be playing at his current school? The present rule is all about having the power to dictate where an athlete can and cant play.

[SDbison]

Then why doesn't this rule apply to softball, field hockey, etc., and is only limited to men's or women's basketball, football, and baseball? Ok, concern is about impact to the team / money sports. This isn't some free market thing. Players commit to schools and it should mean something. Just like employers protect positions that involve key aspects of future business / revenue often have employees sign documents that say they will not directly leave to go work for a competitor in their research field, etc. Maybe these docs are not legally enforceable but the question is how much of an employee's knowledge and expertise is developed by a company due to the companies resources? Same goes for a football or basketball player......if they go to a competitor success and revenue is affected.

[SDbison]

Hatred towards NDSU has nothing to do with it. It has everything to do with with being consistent. The NCAA allows other team sport athletes to transfer. Why should a FB player be hamstrung if he wants to go to another school when he sees he wont be playing at his current school? The present rule is all about having the power to dictate where an athlete can and cant play. The possible rule change would have the most impact on football teams ike NDSU that get more good players than most FCS teams and develops them into great FCS, or very good FBS level players. FCS teams wouldn't shed a tear seeing NDSU dropped down a notch, and the FBS teams would welcome a way to steal players we develop. Other than fans that have jumped on the NDSU bandwagon, most of college football despises, or is at least very jealous of NDSU's success.

[heffray]

This. He can actually get quite a bit better, and as much as some would scoff at it, NDSU is qb U. The combination of the offense we run along with the qb coaching have made this program as good at developing QBs as pretty much anyone out there. If Trey continues to improve he has a great shot at being one of the first guys off the board right here where he is at.

I agree with this and ‘Nater’s post for the most part, but I’m not convinced the NFL won’t go after him a year early if he does improve.

[Christopher Moen]

The possible rule change would have the most impact on football teams ike NDSU that get more good players than most FCS teams and develops them into great FCS, or very good FBS level players. FCS teams wouldn't shed a tear seeing NDSU dropped down a notch, and the FBS teams would welcome a way to steal players we develop. Other than fans that have jumped on the NDSU bandwagon, most of college football despises, or is at least very jealous of NDSU's success.

I disagree that the rule would be much of an impact on NDSU. Maybe other FCS and G5 schools that get maybe one or two players that could play at a P5 school after a year or two of development. With NDSU, as long as the program is successful and the culture is strong, most of the kids want to stay. Those that have left were to get playing time at a smaller division school.

[23Bison]

The kids would still have to enter the transfer portal for any of this to be valid. If all of this were to happen. I still think that most kids especially a kid like Trey with the coaching and experience he’s getting here at NDSU will stay put. Carson paved the way for future Bison QBs like Trey and Easton to be in the spotlight of NFL scouts. Transferring to and as FBS would not help in any way IMHO. If you can be a #2 overall draft pick from NDSU playing our schedule.

[Bisonator98]

I agree with this and ‘Nater’s post for the most part, but I’m not convinced the NFL won’t go after him a year early if he does improve.

The NFL doesn't go after anyone. That's his decision.

[heffray]

The NFL doesn't go after anyone. That's his decision.

Sorry, what I meant is that there is a lot of buzz and interest from teams and he is tempted to declare early.