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SlickVic
12-20-2019, 03:29 AM
big names, big games fellas------------any chance tim miles on the FS1 call? cam and vinny can punish that 5 foot 11 future d-leaguer in the post how you like that game plan CAS????? lets go!

ndsubison1
12-20-2019, 04:16 AM
Marquette favored by 15. Have a couple decent guys, but we'll see if we can keep Howard from going ham.

CAS4127
12-20-2019, 04:31 AM
big names, big games fellas------------any chance tim miles on the FS1 call? cam and vinny can punish that 5 foot 11 future d-leaguer in the post how you like that game plan CAS????? lets go!

I’m down—let’s see it.

And maybe some actual picks inside of 3-point line to get real, open looks and or take ball directly to basket off that for a slam or backdoor loop, which I haven’t heard much of if ever this year.




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El_Chapo
12-20-2019, 04:56 AM
I will be happy staying in this game and losing by single digits.
Howard is just too dam good guys, sorry.

FS1 though, National TV!

roadwarrior
12-20-2019, 10:13 AM
The last time we played there was probably the best game Andre Smith played as a Bison.

Mr Meaty
12-20-2019, 12:54 PM
Howard for them is a dude. Keep him from getting 30 and we might have a slight chance. Going to need a complete game from the entire team. We settle for 3 point shots and we lose by 40. Drive, dish, defend and rebound we have a punchers chance.

bisonfan08
12-20-2019, 01:49 PM
Howard for them is a dude. Keep him from getting 30 and we might have a slight chance. Going to need a complete game from the entire team. We settle for 3 point shots and we lose by 40. Drive, dish, defend and rebound we have a punchers chance.

Howard will likely score 30+, he's just that good. The key will be us continuing to score on offense and limiting the rest of their team outside of Howard and not giving up 2nd chance points. Play tough D, rebound well and continue to work the ball inside out on offense and we stand a chance. The nice part is they don't run a dominant big man offense so matchup wise we actually square up fairly well. The difference is they have a guy that should be in the NBA on their team and we do not.

bruinbison
12-20-2019, 03:27 PM
Wow! Tough matchup tonight.
Normally you can try and play off the big time athletes, try and stop the driveanddish and hope they aren’t hitting from outside. Marquette hitting over 42% from 3 land as a team - yikes! Perimeter D will be interesting to watch.

Marquette, just like Wisconsin, is doing a good job recruiting Minnesota with 2 of their starters from there - 6’ 9” Theo John (Champlin Park) and 6’ 5” Sacar Anim (DeLasalle). They also signed Top 50 recruit Dawson Garcia recently - 6’ 10” 220 Prior Lake MN - winning a recruiting battle with Minnesota, among 20+ offers.

bruinbison
12-20-2019, 04:46 PM
NBADraft.Net projects Markus Howard as an early 2nd round pick and he could have been a 2nd rounder last summer as well. At 5’ 11” 180 he sounds like a good instant offense guy off the bench in the NBA, especially hitting on 47% of his college 3’s this year.
A preseason 1st Team AA, he is scoring 25 ppg so far this season, 2.8 rpg and 2.9 apg. He does have a 1-1 assist/turnover ratio (not good for a pg, 2:1 desirable) so hopefully Vinnie & Co can force a few along the way.
6’ 4” Koby McEwen actually leads the team in assists at 3.5, but has had trouble shooting - 32% overall, 35% on 3’s.

Professor Chaos
12-20-2019, 04:49 PM
I'd guess we'll see Tyson Ward matched up with him tonight. That's why they did against CSU-Northridge's little guard who was averaging 17+ ppg I believe and Tyson's length bothered him. This is obviously a much tougher assignment but if they can make him earn his points (i.e. shoot it 25 times to score 25 points) they'll give themselves a shot.

SlickVic
12-20-2019, 05:09 PM
I’m down—let’s see it.

And maybe some actual picks inside of 3-point line to get real, open looks and or take ball directly to basket off that for a slam or backdoor loop, which I haven’t heard much of if ever this year.




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I like the way u think CAS--------old school-------get juco witz out there setting 2-3 hard screens per possession and put some people on there ass! Also, any time oj d league Howard even sniffs the paint would like 2 see some good clean hard fouls outa witz, ala bill lambier! Any word on if miles is calling the game fellas? Love roads recalling of Andre Smith, were you at the game road? His (Andres) team mate at wahp science played for Marquette (I think his name was Jameel) and when I asked his mom if he was being recruited by ndsu she replied "Jameel ant stayin in no North Dakota! No sir!" Lmfao---------100 pays over 6 last time I looked merry Christmas boys!!!!!

ndsubison1
12-20-2019, 05:39 PM
I dont see Ward able to keep up with Howard, but it might be our best option. We will probably have to send another guy at him as soon as he puts the ball on the floor.

Professor Chaos
12-20-2019, 06:15 PM
I dont see Ward able to keep up with Howard, but it might be our best option. We will probably have to send another guy at him as soon as he puts the ball on the floor.
Ward also as a tendency to pick up dumb fouls and take himself out of the game with foul trouble. If that happens then it's probably Samuelson on Howard.... hold onto your butts if that happens.

Professor Chaos
12-20-2019, 07:45 PM
Bison currently at 176 in the NET ratings... ETSU up to 72 which gives the Bison a Q2 win. Marquette currently ranked 58 so this will be Q1 win/loss tonight (as long as Marquette stays in the top 75). Huge opportunity tonight!

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

NDSU currently 0-0 in Q1 games, 1-2 in Q2 games, 0-1 in Q3 games, and 6-1 in Q4 games: https://bracketresearch.com/team-quadrant-wins-and-losses-tracker/

ndsubison1
12-20-2019, 07:46 PM
Any possibility we throw in a perimeter oriented zone tonight?

bisonfan08
12-20-2019, 08:12 PM
Any possibility we throw in a perimeter oriented zone tonight?

Zone typically isn't the answer for a team that's shooting the 3 like they are. Zone works better if it was a big guy or guys that can really get to the rim that we needed to stop. I think we try Tyson on Howard and if it doesn't work Cam or Vinnie will have to deal with him. Can't stop him, just have to hope to contain him.

MNLonghorn10
12-20-2019, 08:21 PM
Ive watched Howard a few times...i mean yea he scores 30...but might need 23 shots in doing so. Am i right?

bisonfan08
12-20-2019, 09:27 PM
Ive watched Howard a few times...i mean yea he scores 30...but might need 23 shots in doing so. Am i right?

Definitely a volume guy, have to hope he doesn't get hot. As mentioned earlier he also can be a little turnover prone so forcing him to get rid of the ball will help

ndsubison1
12-20-2019, 10:59 PM
Zone typically isn't the answer for a team that's shooting the 3 like they are. Zone works better if it was a big guy or guys that can really get to the rim that we needed to stop. I think we try Tyson on Howard and if it doesn't work Cam or Vinnie will have to deal with him. Can't stop him, just have to hope to contain him.

There are different types of zones

Bison03
12-21-2019, 01:05 AM
Playing Thunderstruck right before the tip! I like it!

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 01:06 AM
FS1 preview for 5 freaking minutes.. anyone find a free stream?

here we go

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 01:11 AM
wasnt that a alley oop pass?? not a shot by howard? booo 2 sifts

down 3-7 early

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 01:11 AM
Tyson for 3 !!!!


where is everyone? this is a huge game

ndsubison1
12-21-2019, 01:12 AM
Def. need Ward to look to score this game

23Bison
12-21-2019, 01:13 AM
Game looks good so far. Too bad one or two of our missed layups didn’t fall. Hope that 3 ball stays consistent and the turnovers don’t become an issue. So far I like what I see.

EC8CH
12-21-2019, 01:14 AM
Lots of hustle. Hanging in there so far.

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 01:14 AM
we Winning 8-7!

not bad at all, this reminds me of duke big dance game

23Bison
12-21-2019, 01:16 AM
Defensive rebounding on that possession was not good.

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 01:18 AM
marquette dominating off glass. gotta get a body on them

8-11 down

Professor Chaos
12-21-2019, 01:18 AM
Marquette is really tough on the defensive end so far but the Bison are attacking the bucket pretty well... just not getting much in the paint right now but hopefully they stay aggressive.

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 01:22 AM
Marquette guys wanting a fight.. walked right thru our huddle and had words under basket. screw them

bruinbison
12-21-2019, 01:23 AM
Vinnie unable to get past Howard so far.
Will need some picks there, or else run offense through point forward T Ward. Tyson has game tonight

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 01:23 AM
not bad boys. down 16 17. 1032 left

IzzyFlexion
12-21-2019, 01:24 AM
Lots of hustle by the Herd.
Looks great but they're gonna get gassed being as shorthanded as they are.

bruinbison
12-21-2019, 01:27 AM
Ward going to bench for a break. MHH in. Where will the offense come from?

Professor Chaos
12-21-2019, 01:31 AM
Vinnie can't guard Howard... looks like his feet are in concrete. Need Tyson back out there.

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 01:31 AM
down 19-25. Howard taking over

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 01:33 AM
does vinnie have a point?

tyson needs to be on howard

HerdThat!
12-21-2019, 01:33 AM
Starting to let Marquette dictate the pace and it’s shaking the boys

House divided tonight, wife a Marquette alum so I need this - bet where kids will go to college on outcome

bruinbison
12-21-2019, 01:33 AM
Am liking Rocky’s aggressiveness, too bad he didn’t finish that slam after blazing down the paint

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 01:38 AM
down 10... but Cam hits a 3. nice!!

31-24 6 min. "announcer says good minutes off the bench" he started ya moron... same guy said mayville st was in south dakota

IzzyFlexion
12-21-2019, 01:38 AM
Cam is kicking some ass!

CalBison97
12-21-2019, 01:39 AM
Great attendance at Marquette!

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 01:40 AM
now cam with a great drive switch hand and scores!! wow

IzzyFlexion
12-21-2019, 01:42 AM
nice post move by the big man.

EC8CH
12-21-2019, 01:43 AM
nice post move by the big man.

Wintz has been a nice surprise.

bruinbison
12-21-2019, 01:43 AM
nice post move by the big man.

And a nice feed from Quayle. He has had some positive minutes tonight

HoopsBison
12-21-2019, 01:43 AM
I like the effort thus far. Ball movement and attacking has been great. Marquette is very good, need to close this half out well.

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 01:45 AM
Cams biggest games are vs high level teams. hes really the only 1 with quick moves

IzzyFlexion
12-21-2019, 01:47 AM
Surprised that Ward would jump to the ball when Howard still had his dribble.....easy burn for that cat.

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 01:47 AM
Vinnie only had the 1 3 point fg. what's up Vin?

HoopsBison
12-21-2019, 01:50 AM
Vinnie only had the 1 3 point fg. what's up Vin?

He has 2 fouls...barely played.

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 01:50 AM
We tied!!! whoaaaaa

Rocky for 3

Bisonator98
12-21-2019, 01:52 AM
Trailing by 2 at the half 36-38.

IzzyFlexion
12-21-2019, 01:52 AM
Howard camped in the paint for at least 6 seconds......and......no call......Richman needs to be able to see that and get on the refs.

bruinbison
12-21-2019, 01:53 AM
And a coaching move by Richman, had Cam post up 5’ 11” Howard after a to, Cam missed the shot but that was fun to see

EC8CH
12-21-2019, 01:53 AM
Shooting well, playing good D and busting their asses has the Bison down 2 at half.

phxbison
12-21-2019, 01:53 AM
Did Vinnie even play the last 10 minutes at all ? Bison playing well ! Knotec and Witz have earned some extra minutes. Really enjoying this. Would'nt a W be nice ?

23Bison
12-21-2019, 01:54 AM
Overall I’m very pleased with the effort. Entertaining game to watch for sure. Too bad some of those contested layups didn’t go down.

EC8CH
12-21-2019, 01:54 AM
And a coaching move by Richman, had Cam post up 5’ 11” Howard after a to, Cam missed the shot but that was fun to see

He got an open look. Just didn't knock it down.

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 01:54 AM
down 2 at Halftime is a HUGE WIN. let's win at Marquette again baby!!!

23Bison
12-21-2019, 01:55 AM
It’s really too bad this team didn’t play like this at the beginning of the season.

HoopsBison
12-21-2019, 01:59 AM
Did Vinnie even play the last 10 minutes at all ? Bison playing well ! Knotec and Witz have earned some extra minutes. Really enjoying this. Would'nt a W be nice ?

Vinnie picked up 2 early fouls.

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 02:10 AM
Vinnie for 3 and foul!!!

IzzyFlexion
12-21-2019, 02:13 AM
Tempo is too fast right now.....

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 02:14 AM
down 6.....

but Tyson with a great move down low

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 02:18 AM
Rocky for 3...and almost a heat check 3

NDSU down 3

IzzyFlexion
12-21-2019, 02:19 AM
No noise from Howard this half...……………….yet...……..

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 02:22 AM
Huge dunk tyson!!

Down 2

IzzyFlexion
12-21-2019, 02:24 AM
And.....just like that.....Howard +9.

Professor Chaos
12-21-2019, 02:25 AM
Cain hammered Kreuser on that alleged block on Rocky's dunk attempt.

EDIT: Well they made up for it on the missed call on Hunter in transition.

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 02:25 AM
NDSU players are on fire tonight, crisp passing fun to watch

IzzyFlexion
12-21-2019, 02:28 AM
That fukn Cain needs to be slapped around a little.

Bison03
12-21-2019, 02:29 AM
Win or lose...pretty impressive showing playing down two players. That being said, screw moral victories and lets win this thing!

Professor Chaos
12-21-2019, 02:29 AM
Eady plays so passive on the offensive end inside the 3 point line. He's a big strong kid... he's gotta be more assertive when he beats his guy on the drive.

steelbison
12-21-2019, 02:30 AM
Rocky hammered on his dunk attempt Getting zero calls. Knotex called for phantom call. Eady struggling. Put in Hayes
Phantom travel called on Ward.


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23Bison
12-21-2019, 02:31 AM
Rocky hammered on his dunk attempt Getting zero calls. Knotex called for phantom call. Easy struggling. Put in Hayes
Phantom travel called on Ward.


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Johnson had a blatant travel not called.

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 02:33 AM
Huge dunk Rocky.. why dont we play this loose all the time.. I havent seen Richman say a word tonight... maybe that's why

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 02:34 AM
NDSU down 3 after Madison wisc Eady hits a reverse.

our couple sconi kids excited to play at home

EC8CH
12-21-2019, 02:34 AM
Keep battling boys!!!

ndsubison1
12-21-2019, 02:38 AM
Everytime we rush a shot they score on the other end

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 02:38 AM
Howard for 3 from 25. dam he good

steelbison
12-21-2019, 02:38 AM
We just took two horrible threes one by Hunter one by Rocky.


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HoopsBison
12-21-2019, 02:39 AM
Man Howard can hit some tough shots.

Professor Chaos
12-21-2019, 02:39 AM
Last two threes by Hunter and Kreuser shot with no confidence. Howard shooting with supreme confidence and is willing Marquette to this 8 point lead.

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 02:41 AM
they up 8... and have 8 more fts. otherwise everything is even

EC8CH
12-21-2019, 02:44 AM
Thanks refs.

phxbison
12-21-2019, 02:44 AM
Wow no matter who is guarding Vinne, he can't seem to get a good shot. Impressive defense by Marquette !

23Bison
12-21-2019, 02:45 AM
So how was that not a foul

steelbison
12-21-2019, 02:45 AM
He was totally fouled our last possession.


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El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 02:46 AM
icky stretch there by maleeck and rocky.. throw the dam ball back out. both blocked then a foul. then a marquette dunk

7-0 run. up 10

steelbison
12-21-2019, 02:47 AM
Love the way Marquette boxes out. Wish we did.


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HerdThat!
12-21-2019, 02:47 AM
Getting rushed and scared off again.

Vinnie a liability tonight

Professor Chaos
12-21-2019, 02:50 AM
Vinnie needs to rub his screens better. He's making it easy for his defender to fight through the high ball screen by not getting closer to his screener. He needs to rub shoulders with Witz and Kreuser.

HerdThat!
12-21-2019, 02:56 AM
Vinnie needs to rub his screens better. He's making it easy for his defender to fight through the high ball screen by not getting closer to his screener. He needs to rub shoulders with Witz and Kreuser.
He’s holding the ball far too long waiting for something to develop with no vision.
Easy scared to take advantage of his opportunities. Tyson putting the team on his back like in the Summit tourney.
And in typical fashion, whole group playing weak around the rim.

El_Chapo
12-21-2019, 02:57 AM
Cam > Vin. and cam just stole that ball from howard... (refs say he was on line.. he wasnt)

Professor Chaos
12-21-2019, 03:01 AM
Disappointing finish but for the game the Bison put up 40+ shots from inside the arc and only 25 from outside of it so they did a nice job attacking the paint. Just got out-athleted by Marquette's defense. If they play this same game against K-State they win. On to the conference season... for as inconsistent as their OOC performance was it looks like the Bison are positioned to win the league with how USD and Omaha have faded recently.

CAS4127
12-21-2019, 03:01 AM
Why NDSU isn’t more physical baffles me. We would differentiate ourselves from vast majority of teams if we were. It would be a different/unique brand of BB these days. Why just be like everyone else?


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phxbison
12-21-2019, 03:04 AM
Were those announcers Marquette's regular announcers ? They sure knew a lot about Marquette. Calling players by their first names and that deal about the Howard's breaking the duo siblings scoring record. Oh well they gave us lot's of prop's. I thought the Bison played great ! Proud of the young men.

23Bison
12-21-2019, 03:04 AM
The team played really well overall. A lot of makeable shots didn’t go down. They definitely has some help from the refs tonight. Could have definitely won that game and it’s promising. Tyson played like a damn man. Seeing the weave come out made me close my eyes in discussed.

Bisonator98
12-21-2019, 03:11 AM
Another missed opportunity........:(

Herd
12-21-2019, 03:38 AM
What’s it take to get a whistle on our end tonight? Rocky’s two hand attAch, no whistle, 2 or 3 times by WArd at the rim, no whistle. The same on the other end? Quick whistle. I just don’t get it. There’s a built in 10 point cushion for Marquette

Kujava23
12-21-2019, 03:41 AM
What’s it take to get a whistle on our end tonight? Rocky’s two hand attAch, no whistle, 2 or 3 times by WArd at the rim, no whistle. The same on the other end? Quick whistle. I just don’t get it. There’s a built in 10 point cushion for Marquette


Maybeeeee if our HC worked the refs or FOUGHT for his team we might get a few calls

23Bison
12-21-2019, 03:47 AM
Yeah there were probably 10 calls that never were against Marquette and our end some very ticky tack calls.

ndsubison1
12-21-2019, 04:04 AM
Were those announcers Marquette's regular announcers ? They sure knew a lot about Marquette. Calling players by their first names and that deal about the Howard's breaking the duo siblings scoring record. Oh well they gave us lot's of prop's. I thought the Bison played great ! Proud of the young men.

Big East plays on FS1

EC8CH
12-21-2019, 04:52 AM
What’s it take to get a whistle on our end tonight? Rocky’s two hand attAch, no whistle, 2 or 3 times by WArd at the rim, no whistle. The same on the other end? Quick whistle. I just don’t get it. There’s a built in 10 point cushion for Marquette

Would have been a tough win regardless but the uneven calls didn't help.

bisonfan08
12-23-2019, 04:10 PM
Watched this game intently from start to finish. Eady needs to shoot the damn ball, passed up two easy layups to make an extra pass that ended up being a turnover. Cam made some bonehead plays with the ball but also made some great plays, just need a little more consistency. I don't think I've seen Rocky play that aggressive ever, he put the ball on the floor a few times and just took his man to the hole, hope he keeps that up! Tyson played like a man possessed, Knotek played really well when he was on the floor but got in foul trouble on a couple of BS calls. The uneven calls by the refs was frustrating as hell, we were getting hammered on our end of the floor and not getting anything called and on the other end we were getting called for some ticky tack bullshit. Refs bailed them out quite a bit in this game, glad we stayed aggressive to the basket, we get some of those calls to get to the line 6-10 more times it's a different ballgame.

All in all I really liked the effort, we played aggressive, took the ball inside and didn't rely on the 3, just a lot of hustle being down a couple guys it was great to see. As I mentioned to a few of my buddies, the good news is nobody in the Summit has a Markus Howard so if we continue to play like this we will have a great conference season. If we would've played like this all season this would've been our first loss. Howard won this game for them, he's a beast.