2019 UC Davis

[tony]

Offense: QB Jake Maier is completing nearly 70% of this passes this year and spreads the ball around. He does not appear to be a rushing threat though. They have a veteran but small offensive line. They don't seem to have much of a running game.

Not sure what defense they run... 3-4 or some hybrid. They gave up 400+ yards a game last year, but the Big Sky often makes those numbers misleading.

At first glance, the outlook sure looks good for NDSU.

[EC8CH]

Offense: QB Jake Maier is completing nearly 70% of this passes this year and spreads the ball around. He does not appear to be a rushing threat though. They have a veteran but small offensive line. They don't seem to have much of a running game.

Not sure what defense they run... 3-4 or some hybrid. They gave up 400+ yards a game last year, but the Big Sky often makes those numbers misleading.

At first glance, the outlook sure looks good for NDSU.

Their coach seems like a straight shooter


http://youtu.be/k52Xaq6LPBs

[Bisonwinagn]

They seem to off to a slow start and not playing to the level of late last year, at least not let. I'm less concerned about this game than I was to start the season. It will be a great test for our defense though.

[EC8CH]

They seem to off to a slow start and not playing to the level of late last year, at least not let. I'm less concerned about this game than I was to start the season. It will be a great test for our defense though.

Getting Jimmy football back will be huge.

[El_Chapo]

THROTTLE DOWN. lets be ready from the jump this week please.

[GreenfieldBison]

They seem to off to a slow start and not playing to the level of late last year, at least not let. I'm less concerned about this game than I was to start the season. It will be a great test for our defense though.

They’re just thinking about the Fargodome.

[VirginiaBison]

According to STATS - Jake Maier, SR, is ranked 28 in passing efficiency. He has thrown 124 passes which is the 3d most among the 50 QBs listed in STATS, in 3 games he has 921 yd, 6 TDs and 2 interceptions.

UC Davis ground game has Ulonzo Aguero, So. RB ranked 12th in STATS after 3 games; has 54 rushes, 280 yrds & 4 TDs.

[ndsubison1]

Their offense and QB will test us. We should be able to run all over them however.

[EC8CH]

Latest game of theirs I could find online was quarterfinal loss on Tampax Turf. My eyes are burning.

[heffray]

Latest game of theirs I could find online was quarterfinal loss on Tampax Turf. My eyes are burning.

A game they could (and some argue, should) have won...

[tjbison]

D needs to step it up and pressure pressure

should be a fun game

[THEsocalledfan]

https://media.giphy.com/media/SVPcRsMZTT5Ze/giphy.gif

[gumby013]

Sagarin has us at ~28 point favorites at home vs Davis.

[EC8CH]

Sagarin has us at ~28 point favorites at home vs Davis.

Oh is that all?

[Christopher Moen]

Sagarin has us at ~28 point favorites at home vs Davis.

It’s like Sagarin is demanding NDSU to be arseholes in order to retain their good ratings.


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[EC8CH]

It’s like Sagarin is demanding NDSU to be arseholes in order to retain their good ratings.


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Die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

[bisonaudit]

Easy with the anthropomorphizing of data there, Chris.

[EC8CH]

Easy with the anthropomorphizing of data there, Chris.

What if I told you we are all but merely data, Audit?

[Christopher Moen]

Easy with the anthropomorphizing of data there, Chris.

Why not? It’s not like any other beings (on Earth) are good with data/numbers that I’m aware of.


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[bisonaudit]

What if I told you we are all but merely data, Audit?

I guess we'd have to have a discussion about whether it's appropriate to apply all the attributes of one subset of a set to all members of the set. Ven diagrams would be involved.

[bruinbison]

Latest game of theirs I could find online was quarterfinal loss on Tampax Turf. My eyes are burning.

Here are some of Cal Davis’ highlights from the Lehigh game

https://m.facebook.com/logged_out/watch/?video_id=2414020165502249&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FYjGEdTHkyB&_rdr

Haven’t watched, but looks like complete Cal Davis - Cal game is here

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab5aoViUcpw

Davis got out to a 10-0 lead against Berkeley before the Golden Bears rallied for a 27-13 win. Cal now at 3-0 with a 20-19 win at Washington and a 23-17 win against North Texas.

[EC8CH]

I guess we'd have to have a discussion about whether it's appropriate to apply all the attributes of one subset of a set to all members of the set. Ven diagrams would be involved.

Well, set theory has been one of the greatest methods for investigating the limits of our understanding, ie the set of all sets that do not contain themselves.

[bisonaudit]

Well, set theory has been one of the greatest methods for investigating the limits of our understanding, ie the set of all sets that do not contain themselves.

Your particular query seems a lot more straight forward than that.

[EC8CH]

Your particular query seems a lot more straight forward than that.

My query was suggesting we might all be nothing more than a simulation.

[bisonaudit]

My query was suggesting we might all be nothing more than a simulation.

Yeah. I get that. I just don't think it changes anything relative to ascribing human attributes to an algorithm designed to rate sports teams based on a few simple variables.

[EC8CH]

Yeah. I get that. I just don't think it changes anything relative to ascribing human attributes to an algorithm designed to rate sports teams based on a few simple variables.

That was Chris's deal. Pretty sure it's a riff on Sagarin spreads leading to Entz calling fake field goals.

[Bisonwinagn]

I think Braun was at UNI last year when they played Davis in the playoffs. Should be a big advantage to game planning.

[EC8CH]

Here are some of Cal Davis’ highlights from the Lehigh game

https://m.facebook.com/logged_out/watch/?video_id=2414020165502249&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FYjGEdTHkyB&_rdr

Haven’t watched, but looks like complete Cal Davis - Cal game is here

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab5aoViUcpw

Davis got out to a 10-0 lead against Berkeley before the Golden Bears rallied for a 27-13 win. Cal now at 3-0 with a 20-19 win at Washington and a 23-17 win against North Texas.

Thank you for this.

[bisonaudit]

That was Chris's deal. Pretty sure it's a riff on Sagarin spreads leading to Entz calling fake field goals.

Sorry, didn't catch that, the first time, obviously. :praying:

[MNLonghorn10]

Hawkins will have his guys ready to play DIVISION ONE FOOTBALL... NOT INTRAMURALS

[Bisonator98]

I think Maier is going to be on his back a lot or sitting on the sideline watching the Bison run up and down the field on their defense.

[gumby013]

Dan Hawkins presser.

https://www.facebook.com/UCDavisAggies/videos/943939539276643/

[EC8CH]

Dan Hawkins presser.

https://www.facebook.com/UCDavisAggies/videos/943939539276643/

Their team only posts vids on Facebook? I hate them already.

[BisonHorns]

This looks like the first real game of the year. Target field was about the atmosphere more than the game. Unp was a waste of an opponent. Delaware was unique because of the distance. Uc Davis is actually coming up here to play some damn football! I am already pumped to see the Bison get tested.

[EC8CH]

Dan Hawkins presser.

https://www.facebook.com/UCDavisAggies/videos/943939539276643/

I like their coach though. Straight shooter and loved the all the Bison history he talked about being a part of.

[ndsubison1]

We are favored by 24. O/U is 59.

[gumby013]

Line opens at -24

O/U of 59

Predicted score of ~ 41-17

[89MTBISON]

Line opens at -24

O/U of 59

Predicted score of ~ 41-17

So the difference between the No. 1 team in FCS and the No. 4 team is 3 TDs. Good grief, we won't be tested til Sept 5, 2020.

[Professor Chaos]

So the difference between the No. 1 team in FCS and the No. 4 team is 3 TDs. Good grief, we won't be tested til Sept 5, 2020.
Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous. I don't ever remember seeing this much spread in the computer rankings between NDSU the next closest FCS team. According to Sagarin NDSU is #29 in the nation and the next closest FCS team is SDSU at #84. NDSU would be favored by 16 on a neutral field against SDSU right now and by 13 in Brookings.

[BisonAlumni]

Line opens at -24

O/U of 59

Predicted score of ~ 41-17

I feel like there's a 5dimes email subscription I'm missing out on here...

[bisonforever]

Dan Hawkins presser.

https://www.facebook.com/UCDavisAggies/videos/943939539276643/ You have to like that guy! Great memory, which is probably why he is a good coach.

[cbline]

Dan Hawkins presser.

https://www.facebook.com/UCDavisAggies/videos/943939539276643/

It's been a long season already with no flight stalking. Can't wait for that this week!

[roadwarrior]

For those younger fans out there, NDSU and Davis had quite a battle back in the 80s.

1982 - NDSU went out to Davis and lost in the semi-final game 14-19
1983 - NDSU traveled again to Davis and won the semi-final game 26-17
1984 - Davis came to Fargo in the first round of the playoffs and NDSU won 31-23
1985 - NDSU surprisingly made the playoffs and traveled to Davis and beat them 31-12 in the first round

We didn't meet again until 2002.

The last time we played them was in 2007.

[Bison"FANatic"]

I am looking forward to watching their QB. It is enjoyable to watch other top tier players come to the Fargo dome and play. It will be interesting how he tries to pick us apart and how we defend him and make him uncomfortable. I hope he sees a lot of pressure but I expect a lot of quick throws. Hopefully that leads to a jumped route and a pick 6 or maybe 2 or 3!!!!!!

[EC8CH]

I am looking forward to watching their QB. It is enjoyable to watch other top tier players come to the Fargo dome and play. It will be interesting how he tries to pick us apart and how we defend him and make him uncomfortable. I hope he sees a lot of pressure but I expect a lot of quick throws. Hopefully that leads to a jumped route and a pick 6 or maybe 2 or 3!!!!!!

Watching a couple of games he seems like a really good player. Knows how to move in the pocket and get rid of the ball quick. Would be fun to see Tuszka drop back in coverage a few times to try and disrupt their quick passing game. Even though he isn't much of a threat to take off and run with it, he's no statue back there like Kehoe. It will be a much different game planning against this guy.

[Professor Chaos]

I am looking forward to watching their QB. It is enjoyable to watch other top tier players come to the Fargo dome and play. It will be interesting how he tries to pick us apart and how we defend him and make him uncomfortable. I hope he sees a lot of pressure but I expect a lot of quick throws. Hopefully that leads to a jumped route and a pick 6 or maybe 2 or 3!!!!!!
Yep, this year their QB Maier is averaging 7.4 yards per attempt and 10.7 yards per completion. Last year it was 7.1 and 10.8 respectively. By comparison Lance so far this year is 11.1 and 13.9 and last year Stick was 9.8 and 15.7. So by design the ball gets out of his hand quickly. I think it'll be tough for the D-line to get home for sacks but if they can get some push to collapse the pocket and clog his passing lanes with either their arms or the UC Davis O-lineman it'll make things tougher for their QB.

[gumby013]

Yep, this year their QB Maier is averaging 7.4 yards per attempt and 10.7 yards per completion. Last year it was 7.1 and 10.8 respectively. By comparison Lance so far this year is 11.1 and 13.9 and last year Stick was 9.8 and 15.7. So by design the ball gets out of his hand quickly. I think it'll be tough for the D-line to get home for sacks but if they can get some push to collapse the pocket and clog his passing lanes with either their arms or the UC Davis O-lineman it'll make things tougher for their QB.

Cal did a solid job of getting their arms up and deflecting balls.

[G_Funky]

With Maier coming in and all the talk of their high powered offense - who was the last QB that came to the Fargo Dome that had folks feeling like he could legit pick the defense apart? Im not talking a duel threat guy...but a pure pocket passer. Rhett Bomar? I realize he was also very athletic, but that guy could spin it.

[G_Funky]

Cal did a solid job of getting their arms up and deflecting balls.

I hope this is the approach the defense takes. Condense the pocket but dont actively work multiple pass rush moves trying to get home for a sack. Just create havoc in the passing lanes by getting a hand up.

[Bison 4 Life]

With Maier coming in and all the talk of their high powered offense - who was the last QB that came to the Fargo Dome that had folks feeling like he could legit pick the defense apart? Im not talking a duel threat guy...but a pure pocket passer. Rhett Bomar? I realize he was also very athletic, but that guy could spin it.

Technically Gage Gubrud came in and hung 450 yds and 4 TDs on us in that overtime game.

Jeremiah Briscoe came in highly touted, speaking of Sam Houston QB's.

[Bisonator98]

I hope we don't try that 3 man rush BS we did against EWU. Gotta get pressure on Maier or he will pick us apart. Blitz like we did against UD every now and then at least.

[Tony Almeida]

Technically Gage Gubrud came in and hung 450 yds and 4 TDs on us in that overtime game.

Jeremiah Briscoe came in highly touted, speaking of Sam Houston QB's.All I remember in that game was thinking what in the hell are the safeties and CB's looking at every time Gubrud would throw deep. The ball seemed to hang for eternity and I was expecting it to get easily defended only to see the ball fall into the hands of a receiver every single time. It was so frustrating to watch.

[BadlandsBison]

With Maier coming in and all the talk of their high powered offense - who was the last QB that came to the Fargo Dome that had folks feeling like he could legit pick the defense apart? Im not talking a duel threat guy...but a pure pocket passer. Rhett Bomar? I realize he was also very athletic, but that guy could spin it.

Rhett ran the ball for over 100 yards and threw for like 400 that game. Probably the best quarterback performance I've seen in person.

[EC8CH]

Technically Gage Gubrud came in and hung 450 yds and 4 TDs on us in that overtime game.

Jeremiah Briscoe came in highly touted, speaking of Sam Houston QB's.

I think Gubrud is a good comp for this guy. Not overly athletic but good in the pocket and can definitely spin it. Hope the game plan is more EWU away vs EWU at home.

[MrSnuffleupagus]

This game will definitely test our passing defense. Their QB seems to be quite good. As i recall, i think as of today he is leading the FCS in passing yards since the start of the 2018 season with 4,852 yards.

2. Cooper (JSU) - 4423
3. Simmons (South Dakota) - 4151
4. Flacco (Towson) - 4,039

[Christopher Moen]

I don’t know how good UC Davis’ receivers are, but keep in mind that EWU had three WRs that were in NFL camps the next season and two are still on rosters. I think that was one of the major reasons why Gage was able to throw or so well. When NDSU went to their redrum house the next season, Gage was just a regular QB. Since then, he lost his job, and after transferring to WSU, I don’t believe he has had much of an impact.

I know Doss (now playing for the Raiders) was one heck of a WR last year for Davis, but I’m not sure any on his level.


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[Professor Chaos]

With Maier coming in and all the talk of their high powered offense - who was the last QB that came to the Fargo Dome that had folks feeling like he could legit pick the defense apart? Im not talking a duel threat guy...but a pure pocket passer. Rhett Bomar? I realize he was also very athletic, but that guy could spin it.
Lauletta from Richmond worried me in the 2015 semis... but that Bison defense was playing out of their minds at that point so it probably shouldn't have.


I think Gubrud is a good comp for this guy. Not overly athletic but good in the pocket and can definitely spin it. Hope the game plan is more EWU away vs EWU at home.
I didn't get the impression in the couple Davis games I watched in last year's playoffs that Maier was very close to Gubrud in terms of mobility. He seems like a guy who only scrambles to buy himself time whereas Gubrud could burn you running the ball if you didn't account for him. The Locker Room guys compared Maier to Austin Sumner (SDSU QB from 2011-2014), that seemed pretty close to me based on what I've seen of him.

[EC8CH]

Lauletta from Richmond worried me in the 2015 semis... but that Bison defense was playing out of their minds at that point so it probably shouldn't have.

I'm not sold on Rocco being a good coach. This UC Davis guy though has me interested. Will be fun to see what a team that has what looks to be a good coach and QB can do coming into the Dome. When Eastern came to the dome Baldwin was still their HC no?

[Professor Chaos]

I'm not sold on Rocco being a good coach. This UC Davis guy though has me interested. Will be fun to see what a team that has what looks to be a good coach and QB can do coming into the Dome. When Eastern came to the dome Baldwin was still their HC no?
Yep, that was his last season in '16. When they went back to Cheney in '17 that was Best's first season as HC.

[G_Funky]

I'm not sold on Rocco being a good coach. This UC Davis guy though has me interested. Will be fun to see what a team that has what looks to be a good coach and QB can do coming into the Dome. When Eastern came to the dome Baldwin was still their HC no?

We'll see how great of a coach he is...since his time at Boise he's compiled a lousy record at multiple levels of football. He's charismatic though and speaks well (he was an analyst for ESPN for several years).

[Bison 4 Life]

We'll see how great of a coach he is...since his time at Boise he's compiled a lousy record at multiple levels of football. He's charismatic though and speaks well (he was an analyst for ESPN for several years).

He's an alum so I imagine he can have that job as long as he wants. Getting into his 60's so he can retire in a few years.

[tony]

For those younger fans out there, NDSU and Davis had quite a battle back in the 80s.

1982 - NDSU went out to Davis and lost in the semi-final game 14-19
1983 - NDSU traveled again to Davis and won the semi-final game 26-17
1984 - Davis came to Fargo in the first round of the playoffs and NDSU won 31-23
1985 - NDSU surprisingly made the playoffs and traveled to Davis and beat them 31-12 in the first round

We didn't meet again until 2002.

The last time we played them was in 2007.

Those playoff games were battles too - well, except maybe that last one. Wasn't it snowing for one of those games in California (and Coach Simmers was out there in shorts)? Heck if I can remember which one it was... I'd have guessed 1985 but the more I look at the descriptions of those games, the more I doubt my memory.

Here's a bit from the old media guide write-up of the first playoff meeting:


North Dakota State's final chance cameon the next possession as the Bison marched 49 yards in 11 plays to the Cal-Davis 8-yard line, setting up a first-and-goal situation with less than 25 seconds to play. An incomplete pass and a 1-yard gain by Willis put the ball on the seven with 11 seconds remaining. Another incomplete pass set up the final play of the game and Mark Nellermoe's pass to tight end Mark Luedtke in the back of the end zone was off the receiver's fingertips. Thus, a 12-1 season came to a close.

The game was watched nationally on CBS television. Cal-Davis moved on to the NCAA championship game with a perfect 12-0 record

[bri-dog]

Those playoff games were battles too - well, except maybe that last one. Wasn't it snowing for one of those games in California (and Coach Simmers was out there in shorts)? Heck if I can remember which one it was... I'd have guessed 1985 but the more I look at the descriptions of those games, the more I doubt my memory.

Here's a bit from the old media guide write-up of the first playoff meeting:

I remember that game. UCD's QB that game was Ken O'Brien (one of the famed QB class of '83). Watching on TV, I thought Nellermoe could have run that in, but it's easy to second-guess...

[roadwarrior]

Dom Izzo just posted the 1984 game highlights on Twitter.

[devin45k]

Dom Izzo just posted the 1984 game highlights on Twitter.

# 40 on UCD looked fast in that highlight.

[JMB]

Dom Izzo just posted the 1984 game highlights on Twitter.

If my memory serves correctly, there was a playoff game in the D2 era against a California school where we about froze them off the sideline. Was that against Cal Davis?

[BisonNeil]

Gage was just a regular QB. Since then, he lost his job, and after transferring to WSU, I don’t believe he has had much of an impact.

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Just to clarify, Gubrud "lost his job" last year after a season-ending injury. He wasn't beat out by Eric Barriere. But you are correct about him at WSU, he has only had garbage time and has thrown only 13 passes to date.

[BisManBison]

If my memory serves correctly, there was a playoff game in the D2 era against a California school where we about froze them off the sideline. Was that against Cal Davis?

1990 - blasted Cal Poly 47-0 in the quarterfinals. It had snowed the night before/morning of the game, so the stands were full of snow and it was pretty cold at game time. I remember thinking that most of the Cal Poly team just wanted out of there from the get go and sometime early in the game, their fans had the nerve to stand up and cheer. They were greeted with a wall of snow balls. It was a thing of beauty. Completely unorchestrated but everyone in the south stands had the same idea and the timing of them being released couldn't have been better. Their fans never cheered again the rest of the game, not that they had any reason to do so. I'm thinking NDSU fans may have been assholes back then....

[AKBison]

Heard a great segment on Mark Packer ESPNU's xm 84 today with UC Davis coach Dan Hawkins. Had some good UC Davis and NDSU talk and it's worth a listen. Hopefully somebody can provide a link once they show is over.

[NDSU1980]

For those younger fans out there, NDSU and Davis had quite a battle back in the 80s.

1982 - NDSU went out to Davis and lost in the semi-final game 14-19
1983 - NDSU traveled again to Davis and won the semi-final game 26-17
1984 - Davis came to Fargo in the first round of the playoffs and NDSU won 31-23
1985 - NDSU surprisingly made the playoffs and traveled to Davis and beat them 31-12 in the first round

We didn't meet again until 2002.

The last time we played them was in 2007.

I remember the 82 game very well. What would have been the game winning TD pass for us sailed over the head of our receiver in the end zone. In 83 the end of the 82 season was mentioned by several players, almost seemed like it was equivalent of the 2010 EWU game and it sorta seemed like it drove our guys all through 83 to meet up with Davis and even the score. They did and won the Natty after that.

EDIT: I see Tony already summed that game for me.

[JMB]

You have to like that guy! Great memory, which is probably why he is a good coach.

Don't forget this gem!! Intermurals baby!!


https://youtu.be/9S3RbRifTSk

[Alsen]

I remember the 82 game very well. What would have been the game winning TD pass for us sailed over the head of our receiver in the end zone. In 83 the end of the 82 season was mentioned by several players, almost seemed like it was equivalent of the 2010 EWU game and it sorta seemed like it drove our guys all through 83 to meet up with Davis and even the score. They did and won the Natty after that.

EDIT: I see Tony already summed that game for me.

Was that Robert Blakely, the receiver?

[SlickVic]

great thread +++++++++++++ so jacked for this game

[scottietohottie]

they realized they had no chance of winning that day.

I feel that every morning when I get out of bed.

[MNLonghorn10]

Something something words


Something something faster



Something something will put up points

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[23Bison]

I don’t get the why everyone thinks that they are “faster” than NDSU. Where does this come from?

[JMB]

I don’t get the why everyone thinks that they are “faster” than NDSU. Where does this come from?

West Coast Speed

[GreenfieldBison]

I don’t get the why everyone thinks that they are “faster” than NDSU. Where does this come from?

I always like when they say “you’ve never seen such and such a unit as ours”. Meanwhile the stats indicate that our defense, offense etc is better than theirs and is who we practice against M-F. Funny.

[tjbison]

Well, in the last 8 years we have beat Southern and Eastern speed multiple times, guess we truly get to add West coast to it now

[Stary2k11]

I don’t get the why everyone thinks that they are “faster” than NDSU. Where does this come from?

I think about this a lot. Something we see with almost every team. Some of it likely comes from teams admitting that NDSU has a pronounced size advantage on the lines. I often see Bison fans head to opponents boards and lead off conversation with exactly this.

I would bet that their natural response is to counteract that with anything they can come up with that might provide a competitive advantage for them. Since size differences are often evident in listed stats, they counter with speed. The “okay, our guys are smaller, but they’re going to be much faster” rationalization.

It’s obviosuly unfounded and difficult to assess with the “eye test” from watching games, but we must assume that bigger guys are going to be slower than smaller guys and thus there lies a way they can purport to have an advantage.

[Christopher Moen]

I don’t get the why everyone thinks that they are “faster” than NDSU. Where does this come from?

Maybe they've seen Fargo too many times?

https://media.giphy.com/media/lraxayhswD8js9KELQ/giphy.gif

[23Bison]

Honestly I can’t even remember a recent FBS team that showed its speed advantage against NDSU.

[BisonNeil]

Well, in the last 8 years we have beat Southern and Eastern speed multiple times, guess we truly get to add West coast to it now

Ummmm, didn’t that happen in the last natty?

[cbline]

Ummmm, didn’t that happen in the last natty?

Apples and oranges. Pacific Northwest speed is NOTHING like California speed.

[tjbison]

Apples and oranges. Pacific Northwest speed is NOTHING like California speed.

yes, TRULY West Coast now

[MNLonghorn10]

Honestly I can’t even remember a recent FBS team that showed its speed advantage against NDSU.Tyler Lockett did and still does

[EC8CH]

https://i.imgflip.com/3axmm5.jpg

[23Bison]

Tyler Lockett did and still does
Yes Tyler Lockett is fast but I’m talking more about team speed. There are one or two guys on every team that we play that have great speed. As far as I can tell we match up pretty well with even the FBS schools.

[TAILG8R]

Talking individuals with speed that Tyrone something other from Eastern Washington that played for the Raiders. That dude was fast. Maybe it wasn't Tyrone I don't remember.

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[89MTBISON]

Talking individuals with speed that Tyrone something other from Eastern Washington that played for the Raiders. That dude was fast. Maybe it wasn't Tyrone I don't remember.

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Taiwan Jones, still in the pros.

[AKBison]

Honestly I can’t even remember a recent FBS team that showed its speed advantage against NDSU.

Cooper Kupp made our DB's look pedestrian for half a game.

[23Bison]

Yes but can you remember a team as a whole, OL thru the LBs on a team that we had faced and thought “wow we can not compete with this kind of speed”?

[TAILG8R]

Taiwan Jones, still in the pros.Ah yes. Thank you!!!

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[EC8CH]

Shakir Bell?

[Gary Hansen]

I am seeing mentions of their speed versus our power on their forum. I guess, "here we go again.". Cal speed a thing?

[NDSU92]

Yes but can you remember a team as a whole, OL thru the LBs on a team that we had faced and thought “wow we can not compete with this kind of speed”?

Kansas State and Iowa certainly had the upper hand. 2013 Georgia Southern definitely matched us. Other than that...

[bruinbison]

Craig Haley’s 5 preseason picks for Walter Payton Award favorites included Cal Davis QB Jake Maier:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/athlonsports.com/college-football/5-favorites-2019-walter-payton-award-fcs-college-football%3famp



Jake Maier, UC Davis
QB, R-Sr., 6-0, 200

2018 Statistics: 364-for-557 (65.4 percent), 34 TDs, 10 INTs; 3 rushing TDs (13 games)

The 2018 Big Sky offensive player of the year ranked No. 1 in the FCS in passing attempts (557), second in completions (364) and touchdown passes (34), and third in passing yards (3,931) while UC Davis posted its best FCS season. Non-conference games against Cal and North Dakota State can be huge for his Payton candidacy.


Cal Berkeley #s for Jake Maier -
19 completions, 37 attempts, 173 yards, 0 TD’s, 0 Int, long of 27 yards, 2 sacks

[EC8CH]

Craig Haley’s 5 preseason picks for Walter Payton Award favorites included Cal Davis QB Jake Maier:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/athlonsports.com/college-football/5-favorites-2019-walter-payton-award-fcs-college-football%3famp

Heisman watchlist candidate Trey Lance not included.

[HerdistheWord]

Heisman watchlist candidate Trey Lance not included.

It was a “preseason” watchlist, so Lance was not a known entity at that time.

[EC8CH]

It was a “preseason” watchlist, so Lance was not a known entity at that time.

The Bisonville knows....

[Bison 4 Life]

He'll be on the Payton and Rice watchlists as soon as they come out. We knew, but he's been a complete surprise to the rest. They see "RFr" and thought "he's too green".

[GreenfieldBison]

He'll be on the Payton and Rice watchlists as soon as they come out. We knew, but he's been a complete surprise to the rest. They see "RFr" and thought "he's too green".

I’ve got to say I am a little bit surprised myself to be completely honest. I know what I saw last year but in no way did I expect to see what is happening on the field these first three games this year. It is stunning. I sure hope I don’t wake up until late January.


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[scottietohottie]

Screw these little awards. We'll take the big trophy.

[StL Bison Fan]

I’ve got to say I am a little bit surprised myself to be completely honest. I know what I saw last year but in no way did I expect to see what is happening on the field these first three games this year. It is stunning. I sure hope I don’t wake up until late January.


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I don’t know what I was expecting, but not this.
I remind myself he’s a rfreshman. Whatever the coaches are doing (traveling with the team, learning from the upper class men) is a template for success.

[GreenfieldBison]

I don’t know what I was expecting, but not this.
I remind myself he’s a rfreshman. Whatever the coaches are doing (traveling with the team, learning from the upper class men) is a template for success.

Besides the raw talent I think you spell it "H e d b e r g". Shhhhh, don't let that out of this room.

[scottietohottie]

Besides the raw talent I think you spell it "H e d b e r g". Shhhhh, don't let that out of this room.

You can let it out of the room because he ain't going no where. The quarterbacks come to him.

[G_Funky]

I’ve got to say I am a little bit surprised myself to be completely honest. I know what I saw last year but in no way did I expect to see what is happening on the field these first three games this year. It is stunning. I sure hope I don’t wake up until late January.


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I am in the camp of being surprised with the entire offense as a unit. There was always some blind faith in the o-line and we knew we had what was seemingly a young crop of players with a ton of potential at almost every position, but to see the entire offense click like it has has been a real treat. And Im talking "entire offense"...coaches and everything. Its been a lot of fun to watch.

I'm also going to play devils advocate here, tho. If we get into a game where we get behind the sticks and the run/pass conflict is out the window too often then I worry about how efficient we'll be.

[MankatoBison]

Same. I thought our offense would be pretty stinkin good, but not incredible like '11 or 12' or redshirt freshman easton in 15 ...

What we are seeing is a heck of alot closer to '18 than anything else at this point. My oh my...

[EC8CH]

Same. I thought our offense would be pretty stinkin good, but not incredible like '11 or 12' or redshirt freshman easton in 15 ...

What we are seeing is a heck of alot closer to '18 than anything else at this point. My oh my...

I think the overall athleticism of this years offense is better than ever, particularly the O-Line. Big question was if the young athletes would perform up to their potential right away. So far so good.

[Bison03]

If Trey can have a day like the past 3 games and our duel Maier and have another comfortable win; the hype train will be fully be loaded and heading hard and fast down the tracks. Peyton watch list talk, Valley champ talk, undefeated talk, and Frisco talk will all be real things.

[Stary2k11]

If Trey can have a day like the past 3 games and our duel Maier and have another comfortable win; the hype train will be fully be loaded and heading hard and fast down the tracks. Peyton watch list talk, Valley champ talk, undefeated talk, and Frisco talk will all be real things.

Interesting that several FCS pundits have already suggested that a comfortable win against UCD will indicate moreso that UCD isn’t as good as their ranking suggests rather than the Bison not skipping a beat from all the turnover. Perhaps they’re trying to be contrarian for attention and page views. Perhaps they’re just playing the odds that with a tough upcoming gauntlet the Bison will falter at some point and “prove them right”. Perhaps there are some underlying issues with disliking a team that always seems to win. But interesting nonetheless.

[Bison 4 Life]

Interesting that several FCS pundits have already suggested that a comfortable win against UCD will indicate moreso that UCD isn’t as good as their ranking suggests rather than the Bison not skipping a beat from all the turnover. Perhaps they’re trying to be contrarian for attention and page views. Perhaps they’re just playing the odds that with a tough upcoming gauntlet the Bison will falter at some point and “prove them right”. Perhaps there are some underlying issues with disliking a team that always seems to win. But interesting nonetheless.

3-1 through the stretch of the next 4 games and the hype train will be fully justified.

[UTH]

For those younger fans out there, NDSU and Davis had quite a battle back in the 80s.

1982 - NDSU went out to Davis and lost in the semi-final game 14-19
1983 - NDSU traveled again to Davis and won the semi-final game 26-17
1984 - Davis came to Fargo in the first round of the playoffs and NDSU won 31-23
1985 - NDSU surprisingly made the playoffs and traveled to Davis and beat them 31-12 in the first round

We didn't meet again until 2002.

The last time we played them was in 2007.

Travelled to UCD in 2006?

And then the pump fake did it.

[Facts]

Travelled to UCD in 2006?

And then the pump fake did it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sMON9TWhYsI

Yep!

[Gary Hansen]

Obscure take here...we better attack Jake Maier or he could possibly go Gardner Minshew II on us.

[ThunderDan]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sMON9TWhYsI

Yep!

Man, people ragging on KVLY (myself included)...this broadcast straight up was at commercial during an interception by Craig Dahl...maybe we should give KVLY a bit more leeway going forward

[EC8CH]

Most of section 10 looks to have tickets for sale.

[Power I]

Most of section 10 looks to have tickets for sale.

Is nobody going to this game? I got 2 tickets in section 10 row A this morning. I'm almost always in a row with double letters.

[roadwarrior]

Is nobody going to this game? I got 2 tickets in section 10 row A this morning. I'm almost always in a row with double letters.

Obviously the students are already done going.

[EC8CH]

Obviously the students are already done going.

I bet they can kiss section 10 goodbye in the not too distant future. Disappointing.

[bstark28]

I bet they can kiss section 10 goodbye in the not too distant future. Disappointing.

Just checked a few minutes ago and I'd say over 75% of Section 10 is still available. One home game into the season and the students have already said, "to hell with it?" Hopefully they don't bitch and whine when another Section gets taken away from them and offered up to season ticket holders.

[tjbison]

Just checked a few minutes ago and I'd say over 75% of Section 10 is still available. One home game into the season and the students have already said, "to hell with it?" Hopefully they don't bitch and whine when another Section gets taken away from them and offered up to season ticket holders.

Sell half to Season tickets if it merits it, the other GA, get more people exposed to the games if they can.

[23Bison]

Sell half to Season tickets if it merits it, the other GA, get more people exposed to the games if they can.
:judges::judges:

[EC8CH]

Sell half to Season tickets if it merits it, the other GA, get more people exposed to the games if they can.

GA was great for bringing younger kids to. Youth ticket price was I think like $10? I used that quite a bit when my kids where younger especially for playoff games.

[StL Bison Fan]

GA was great for bringing younger kids to. Youth ticket price was I think like $10? I used that quite a bit when my kids where younger especially for playoff games.

Not a bad idea. Sell the leftover sec 10 seats on Friday and sat as GA. First come

[tjbison]

GA was great for bringing younger kids to. Youth ticket price was I think like $10? I used that quite a bit when my kids where younger especially for playoff games.

yep, the JR Bison club pack was great for Familes, they took the tickets away from the pack and many of my friends with kids stopped going as they could no longer get tickets, have to have something to entice the younger family's ect..also the average person has no Idea these tickets are open right now for sale, as a freind of mine just had an SRO ticket sell on Stub Hub for $35...i bet that person would have secured a SEAT for $10 more.

An entire stadium of Season tickets can be a negative also, no reason 1 endzone section cant be used this way

[GCWaters]

The old family pack was great, too...four GA tickets for each game at a great price...

[wagsabison]

I think a GA section would be wise. I know people spend much more than what I spend on tickets in a year. Bringing my nephew to a game this weekend and it’s $50 a ticket. The casual fan won’t spend that.


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[MankatoBison]

yeah the students suck. Not oall of them obviously, but collectively, the fact that they cant get fricken 3000 kids to show up to watch THEIR OWN ELITE SCHOOL to a game is embarrassing to me :/

They can kiss another section goodbye. Once they do that, I would be surprised if they keep the sections split on the sideline and the endzone. wouldnt it be 3 on the sideline, one in the endzone at that point?

If that were the case, I imagine they would just move all the student sections to the endzone for asthetic reasons (as well as the fact that sideline sections generate more revenue than endzone seats)

[cbline]

yeah the students suck. Not oall of them obviously, but collectively, the fact that they cant get fricken 3000 kids to show up to watch THEIR OWN ELITE SCHOOL to a game is embarrassing to me :/

They can kiss another section goodbye. Once they do that, I would be surprised if they keep the sections split on the sideline and the endzone. wouldnt it be 3 on the sideline, one in the endzone at that point?

If that were the case, I imagine they would just move all the student sections to the endzone for asthetic reasons (as well as the fact that sideline sections generate more revenue than endzone seats)

You can almost hear Portly Rob banging on his computer already: "The students pay exorbitantly high fees already, and NOW the athletic department wants to reduce the number of students who can attend games. Fire Bresciani!"

[gumby013]

Finally.

IT'S FLIGHT STALKING TIME!!!

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX8630/history/20190920/2000Z/KSMF/KFAR

[gumby013]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA-B7NypCLY&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR0eomLK2Bj6jHpON9SrvlXfT_3IBryf-SeONPH71_CL-kbpeAwgYN_LdW0

[Bisonator98]

38peat? We talking minimum 38peat! :D

[Mr Meaty]

Finally.

IT'S FLIGHT STALKING TIME!!!

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX8630/history/20190920/2000Z/KSMF/KFAR

It appears they are late getting out. Scared??

[Christopher Moen]

Really hard to gauge how good UC Davis is due to the lack of video footage for 2019. The only game available was their Cal game (if you can't stand clapping QBs like me, this game is hard to watch), which they were really competitive and aggressive early on and then faded away after the first half. Not bad considering Cal would go to Washington and win late (really late due to a long weather delay) game via a FG. To me, it appeared on offense, UC Davis is strong with their scripted plays as they are really high tempo (ball is snapped before the play clock hits 20 seconds), but once those run out, they're a bit tentative. After the scripted plays, they would line up and then look at the coaches for direction. My guess, the QB hasn't been taught how to read defenses very well.

Judging by their game against San Diego they gave up a lot of yards passing and a decent amount of rushing. They also gave up three turn-overs and barely got by a team that previously got smashed by Cal-Poly.

Looking at the stats from the Lehigh game, they still gave up a lot of passing yards - most of which was in the second half and probably during garbage time, but did well stopping the run.

My short synopsis is that UC Davis is super pass-heavy as they have a pretty good QB and talent at the WR position. They also do have a good RB, not great, but good. Based on how they played against Cal, a moving defense after giving them a pre-snap look will have success defending them, especially when UC Davis runs out of their scripted plays. This favors the Bison defense. Also, the Bison crowd is going to cause issues with UC Davis' clapping.

In regards to UC Davis' defense, if they can't get off the field, they're going to be hurting not much after halftime, especially if their offense's up-tempo isn't successful at scoring and keeping themselves on the field more than a few minutes of game clock. I wouldn't be shocked if NDSU starts the game with long-drawn out drives with a lot of East to West plays to tire out the UC Davis defense (they do have athletes on their defense with speed). NDSU's offense should have a goal of possessing the ball with around 40 minutes.

Right now, if NDSU plays to their potential, I have them winning by 25. The Bison need to make this a statement game and one that puts fear and doubt into the Aggies because I have a feeling NDSU and UC Davis will be playing twice this season. If NDSU doesn't play to their potential, this could be a similar game to the 2016 EWU game. However, with the talent NDSU has at defending the pass, I don't see this happening.

[StL Bison Fan]

Finally.

IT'S FLIGHT STALKING TIME!!!

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX8630/history/20190920/2000Z/KSMF/KFAR

I’ve missed this!

[StL Bison Fan]

At the luncheon today the coach said we need to up our game of being loud this week
He said they are up tempo and the noise will make a difference.
So review the thread on the science of loudness and adjust accordingly.
It’s too late for me to learn to whistle louder.

[NDSU1980]

Sell half to Season tickets if it merits it, the other GA, get more people exposed to the games if they can.

I'm going to disagree with that slightly. Sell them all to TM members based on priority points. I really don't want season tickets but wouldn't mind going more games.

[tjbison]

I'm going to disagree with that slightly. Sell them all to TM members based on priority points. I really don't want season tickets but wouldn't mind going more games.

Yeah well, not that I dont agree, but there is a elite club like vibe around this team right now heard it from people I know. An open GA section that the public knows they at least get a shot at would help take that away.

Obviously it's not going to happen but just a thought to get families and the youth pumped again.

[ThunderDan]

yeah the students suck. Not oall of them obviously, but collectively, the fact that they cant get fricken 3000 kids to show up to watch THEIR OWN ELITE SCHOOL to a game is embarrassing to me :/

They can kiss another section goodbye. Once they do that, I would be surprised if they keep the sections split on the sideline and the endzone. wouldnt it be 3 on the sideline, one in the endzone at that point?

If that were the case, I imagine they would just move all the student sections to the endzone for asthetic reasons (as well as the fact that sideline sections generate more revenue than endzone seats)

Well, even Alabama is having this issue, so it's not exactly unique to NDSU...they are actually now tracking students who attend the whole game and given them priority points for how long they stay.

[bisonp]

You can almost hear Portly Rob banging on his computer already: "The students pay exorbitantly high fees already, and NOW the athletic department wants to reduce the number of students who can attend games. Fire Bresciani!"

Yeah but in this case he'd have a point. If the students aren't interested in attending, why should they be subsidizing the team? I think college athletics are in trouble.

This is the #4 team in the country and I can get as many tickets together as I could want right now.

[No_Skill]

The future of live sports will be attending an event where you can watch your favorite Twitch streamer play the current iteration of Fortnight or whatnot live and in the flesh. It's inevitable. Goodie.

[bruinbison]

Normally someone will say 100% chance of thundar
in Fargo for the opposing team, tonight UC Davis
gets tornado sirens in Fargo......*

*KVRR says wall cloud north and west of fairgrounds heading N NE
Quite a lightning show out there but not much rain happened here south of I94

[bruinbison]

A storied rivalry:

https://ucdavisaggies.com/news/2019/9/20/football-aggies-ready-for-the-latest-chapter-of-a-storied-rivalry.aspx

[EC8CH]

https://twitter.com/DomIzzoWDAY/status/1175197929373655040?s=19

UC Davis visits Fargodome during HS football game.

[bruinbison]

A storied rivalry:

https://ucdavisaggies.com/news/2019/9/20/football-aggies-ready-for-the-latest-chapter-of-a-storied-rivalry.aspx

1982 A game for the ages

https://www.davisenterprise.com/sports/1982-uc-davis-ndsu-game-was-one-for-the-ages/

[southcliffbison]

Well, even Alabama is having this issue, so it's not exactly unique to NDSU...they are actually now tracking students who attend the whole game and given them priority points for how long they stay.

Perhaps the answer lies with the easy access to viewing games; in other words, do what the NFL does if a game isn't sold out...….black the fucking thing out...…...that would get the cheap fat asses off the sofa in their homes and to the dome. Thoughts ?

[El_Chapo]

missin this game like most everyone else I guess

just beat them 42-17 so I dont get FOMO

[El_Chapo]

Sounds good thanks for the update

no update. I just want a 42-17 win

[Honeybooboo]

Perhaps the answer lies with the easy access to viewing games; in other words, do what the NFL does if a game isn't sold out...….black the fucking thing out...…...that would get the cheap fat asses off the sofa in their homes and to the dome. Thoughts ?

Blacking a game out is not the way to go, that will go over great...WE ARE NOT THE NFL

[bisonaudit]

Blacking a game out is not the way to go, that will go over great...WE ARE NOT THE NFL

The NFL isn’t even the NFL anymore on this issue. They haven’t blacked out a game since 2013 and the policy has been officially suspended since 2015.

[bruinbison]

Things I’ll be watching today include:

Big Sky offense vs Bison defense!!!
What a classic matchup - everything you expect!
Aerial attack vs stout D.

- Like every opponent NDSU faces, can Cal Davis’ offense keep NDSU’s offense off the field?

- Can UCD at least threaten to run the ball to slow the pass rush?
And more importantly, is QB Jake Maier willing & able to run the ball? When EWU and SDSU (among others) caused havoc with the Bison D, they spread NDSU out and had QB scrambles and designed runs.

- The Bison have experience/talent at the DE & CB positions (not a good sign for UCD) - how much help will each position get? Safety help on single WR? Or do they go mainly with Marcus Williams Island? Blitz help for the DE’s? Or straight up 4-man rush? Did like that Derrek Tuszka formation where he was a stand-up LB and could pick his pass-rush Lane. Spencer Waege could do that too, in addition to his DT duties on passing downs. (Saw that Waege is listed as the starter at DE today. Hope that means he is fully healthy!)

- Where will UCD attack on offense? Where do they think they have advantages?

- Ram Tough - Do they impose their will?

- Can’t believe the #1 team is a 25 point favorite over the #4 team.
After losing back-to-back loaded senior classes, are the Bison really that good? Or are SDSU & JMU the only teams Vegas would give close odds on?
1st game Butler - 47 point win
2nd game FH’s - 31 point win
3rd game Delaware - 25 point win
Guess my Bisonmath says that trend means about a 17 point win :)

GoBizon!
And yea! I actually get to tailgate today!
Better half is going to Hillsboro for a benefit and is sending a Burro this direction as a replacement.

[NDSUSR]

Stop Gillum and UCD has the offense of Lamar.

[Tony Almeida]

I'll say 38-17...I'll give their QB some points considering all the hype.

[bisonfanette]

I'm going to disagree with that slightly. Sell them all to TM members based on priority points. I really don't want season tickets but wouldn't mind going more games.

Posting late. It’s my understanding that they sold more single game tickets (on Aug 1) for the games LATER in the season.
For instance, on Veterans Day wknd Nov. 9 (Western Illinois game) you may not see as many LOWER elevation tickets available, as you did with the UC Davis game.

[bruinbison]

Montana with a UC Davis hangover after defeating them 45-20, this week trailing Idaho State 10-0 late in 1st quarter

[MinotBison]

Davis must have had a hangover as well. They just dropped one to UND. :sigpalm: :facepalm:

[GreenfieldBison]

I wonder if Anish still sees Davis collecting that natty this year?


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[HerdistheWord]

G
Davis must have had a hangover as well. They just dropped one to UND. :sigpalm: :facepalm:

They might be running themselves out of a playoff spot soon.

[Christopher Moen]

Well, probably no more worrying about UC Davis anymore.


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[ndsubison1]

UCD might be done

[Stary2k11]

UCD might be done

They have to win out to get to 8-4 (1 fbs loss). Remaining games with Weber and Montana State aren’t gimmes, and even Portland State or Sac State could be problematic.

[TAILG8R]

They're done.

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[EC8CH]

They have to win out to get to 8-4 (1 fbs loss). Remaining games with Weber and Montana State aren’t gimmes, and even Portland State or Sac State could be problematic.

Really gonna hurt NDSU in the media rankings not blowing out such a team.

[X-Factor]

Really gonna hurt NDSU in the Madden 2020 rankings not blowing out such a team.

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