Local Talent

[Twincitybizon]

We need to and seemingly do own the local talent, but I'm surprised by the number of kids so far. Is there that much D1 guys in the area or are we under reaching??

[Vet70]

We need to and seemingly do own the local talent, but I'm surprised by the number of kids so far. Is there that much D1 guys in the area or are we under reaching??

My best guess the latter. For the most part, I wouldn't be surprised if the coaches see something special in the kids that they can develop.

[Grizzled]

My understanding in talking with a few coaches is generally we have for this talent for nothing and it’s been fairly quiet. This year with area schools recruiting some of these kids we have had to spend some money to get it and it’s been a little more public. No reason a good chunk of these kids won’t develop into contributors like local kids in the past have done. Our staff has seen all of them in person.

[bstark28]

We need to and seemingly do own the local talent, but I'm surprised by the number of kids so far. Is there that much D1 guys in the area or are we under reaching??

The question I'd have would be whether or not the local kids are committing to PWO spots or if they're on scholarship?

[HerdBot]

When you say local talent, do you mean Fargo-Moorhead, the entire state, or near by?

[SamsRams]

The question I'd have would be whether or not the local kids are committing to PWO spots or if they're on scholarship?

And if scholarship is it full or partial?

[Twincitybizon]

When you say local talent, do you mean Fargo-Moorhead, the entire state, or near by?

Nearby. More skill positions also. TE and OL/DL are a mindset. WR and LB are athletic freak splash positions

[HerdBot]

If your referring to local talent as in a short drive footprint or simply in state... seems like we could use more than less.

Ryan Smith, Ty Brooks, Ben Ellefson, Carson Wentz, Travis Beck, MJ Stumpf, Levi Jordheim, Cordell Volson, Tanner Volson, Landon Lechler, Garrett Malstrom, Luke Bacon, Stanley Jones, Jack Plakners, Jeff Illies, Bryce Messner, Esley Thorton, Chase Morlock, Nate Moody, Jedre Cyr, Andrew Grothmann, Ryan Drevlow, Danny Luecke, Matt Anderson, Lee Vandal, Drew Hushka, Michael Arndt... or even go way back to Austin Richard, Jerimiah Wurzbacher, the Kittleson brothers, Keith Buckman, and Tyler Roehl.

[Twincitybizon]

If your referring to local talent as in a short drive footprint or simply in state... seems like we could use more than less.

Ryan Smith, Ty Brooks, Ben Ellefson, Carson Wentz, Travis Beck, MJ Stumpf, Levi Jordheim, Cordell Volson, Tanner Volson, Landon Lechler, Garrett Malstrom, Luke Bacon, Stanley Jones, Jack Plakners, Jeff Illies, Bryce Messner, Esley Thorton, Chase Morlock, Nate Moody, Jedre Cyr, Andrew Grothmann, Ryan Drevlow, Danny Luecke, Matt Anderson, Lee Vandal, Drew Hushka, Michael Arndt... or even go way back to Austin Richard, Jerimiah Wurzbacher, the Kittleson brothers, Keith Buckman, and Tyler Roehl.

Eh stretching the area a but far. I would not extend that to Bismark. Plus as mentioned different when considering OL/DL FB TE and skill guys.

[Bison"FANatic"]

We need to and seemingly do own the local talent, but I'm surprised by the number of kids so far. Is there that much D1 guys in the area or are we under reaching??

I asked myself the same thing and even went and looked back to other years recruiting earlier today. I trust the coaches but with it being a partially new staff it is in peoples mind can they keep it rolling and how is their first class going to look? Its one of the best things about watching and following college football, year to year there are so many changes yet so much can also stay the same.

[HerdBot]

Eh stretching the area a but far. I would not extend that to Bismark. Plus as mentioned different when considering OL/DL FB TE and skill guys.

Very true on the big guys. But really, why is it odd to get this much talent out of the Fargo-Moorhead metro and surrounding area but not include to Bismarck which is much smaller?

100 mile radius of Fargo = 674K
100 mile radius of Bismarck = 247k

[Twincitybizon]

Very true on the big guys. But really, why is it odd to get this much talent out of the Fargo-Moorhead metro and surrounding area but not include to Bismarck which is much smaller?

100 mile radius of Fargo = 674K
100 mile radius of Bismarck = 247k
I guess when framed by population it's not that odd. Great point

[Bison Bridge Guy]

I don't follow recruiting real close so I don't know how FM athletes compare to other parts of the region or country. But I have watched Davies and Sheyenne in multiple sports the last couple years and there are a ton of good athletes at both schools, male and female. (Other schools have good athletes too, but I'm a Sheyenne parent and some of their top battles in several sports are with Davies).

[HerdBot]

I don't follow recruiting real close so I don't know how FM athletes compare to other parts of the region or country. But I have watched Davies and Sheyenne in multiple sports the last couple years and there are a ton of good athletes at both schools, male and female. (Other schools have good athletes too, but I'm a Sheyenne parent and some of their top battles in several sports are with Davies).

Great point. New schools give more kids opportunities to play and develop their football skills. Also with the crazy population boom weve seen, coupled with some great public ans private training facilities, football talent is improving. You figure just by adding Davies, that's a whole football team plus JV.

[mtoutfitter]

Don't get me wrong when I ask this question as I'm a huge Bison fan, have been for many moons, but if there is as much talent in the state as some are saying.....why does Mt kick the shit out of ND in the Badlands Bowl almost every year? Do the Bison just do a better job of developing the talent that's in the area? If you look at the Cat and Griz rosters you'll see that percentage wise they both have many more in state kids than the Bison. I absolutely hate the Griz….probably because of Missoula.

[HerdBot]

Don't get me wrong when I ask this question as I'm a huge Bison fan, have been for many moons, but if there is as much talent in the state as some are saying.....why does Mt kick the shit out of ND in the Badlands Bowl almost every year? Do the Bison just do a better job of developing the talent that's in the area? If you look at the Cat and Griz rosters you'll see that percentage wise they both have many more in state kids than the Bison. I absolutely hate the Griz….probably because of Missoula.

Numbers game. Montana has more schools and more in state talent. The years weve beaten them, the team was loaded with Bison and Focker players. The years weve lost, its only been a handful. Also out top players seem to pass on the game.

[BadlandsBison]

Don't get me wrong when I ask this question as I'm a huge Bison fan, have been for many moons, but if there is as much talent in the state as some are saying.....why does Mt kick the shit out of ND in the Badlands Bowl almost every year? Do the Bison just do a better job of developing the talent that's in the area? If you look at the Cat and Griz rosters you'll see that percentage wise they both have many more in state kids than the Bison. I absolutely hate the Griz….probably because of Missoula.

Montana has like close to twice the population of ND overall. I once saw the number of football participants in each state and MT was quite a bit larger in that category, its a significant advantage.

Participation in the all-star games is popular in Montana as well. I think some of the graduated senior do like 2 or 3 in the spring and summer including the badlands bowl. NDSU advises their recruits to choose one. Many of the "top" players aren't in the Badlands bowl for what its worth.

[mtoutfitter]

Numbers game. Montana has more schools and more in state talent. The years weve beaten them, the team was loaded with Bison and Focker players. The years weve lost, its only been a handful. Also out top players seem to pass on the game.

You've got a couple of good points but I will say that Mt doesn't send any of their 6 or 8 man players to that game so I think that somewhat evens the numbers question up. Also, you are correct in saying that many of the Bison or UN_ recruits pass the game up but from living out here I can tell you that just as many of the Cat and Griz recruits pass as well. I think Mt still has numbers on their side but I wouldn't think it would be enough to turn it into the embarrassment that it becomes some years.

Didn't mean to turn that into a Badlands Bowl debate. Guess my point is that I hope the coaching staff is right in their judgement of talent....I'm sure they are and I'm in no position to question them!! Just throwing out my 2 cents.

[reformedUNDfan]

there are 6 local commits by my count, which isn't anything wild. In the past, I recall local commits leading the way, and we may be done locally for all we know.

I was under the impression that the local pool was good this year, and NDSU got all but one already.

[HerdBot]

there are 6 local commits by my count, which isn't anything wild. In the past, I recall local commits leading the way, and we may be done locally for all we know.

I was under the impression that the local pool was good this year, and NDSU got all but one already.

The kid from Barnesville would have been a good one.

[AKCBOXERZ]

Where did the Barnesville kid go? Didn't he have p5 interest?

[HerdBot]

Where did the Barnesville kid go? Didn't he have p5 interest?

I think Iowa State. Hey they do have 4 Bowl wins all time and have won the Big 12 once in history and have 3 comference championships since 1892

[Twincitybizon]

Where did the Barnesville kid go? Didn't he have p5 interest?

Yup Iowa State.

[ByeSonBusiness]

Montana has like close to twice the population of ND overall. I once saw the number of football participants in each state and MT was quite a bit larger in that category, its a significant advantage.

Participation in the all-star games is popular in Montana as well. I think some of the graduated senior do like 2 or 3 in the spring and summer including the badlands bowl. NDSU advises their recruits to choose one. Many of the "top" players aren't in the Badlands bowl for what its worth.

We should change the way we approach that game or quit playing it period.