EWU Post Game Thoughts

[Kevin]

1) Thank you Seniors. No words can really describe this accomplishment and the positive influence it will have on the program for years to come.
2) Easton Stick. Still the best QB in FCS and rightful Payton Award winner. Thank you for everything Easton. It has been an honor to watch you over the years. FCS record holder for wins. Future NFL QB. Greatest QB in NDSU history. What a final play for an unmatched career.
3) Shep was MVP in my books until Stick's last TD run. Amazing performance when we needed it most.
4) Congrats to EWU on a tough game. I have a lot of respect for their coach. He seems like he gets it.
5) What a crazy game. Sloppy at times. Purely chaotic at others. That third quarter took years off my life. The fake field goal that somehow everyone in Bison Nation knew was going to be fake except the coaching staff. That missed kick in the 4th, wtf was that? Great way to cap off a 19 play drive.
6) Really looking forward to seeing Hendricks step into the leadership role on defense next year. He played a great game. Very happy for Menard to end his career with a sack as well.
7) As much as I'll miss Klieman I won't miss his time management skills. Let's hope that Entz learns from those mistakes.

[2011BisonAlumni]

Worst coaching performance in a championship game in the NDSU FCS era.

[Kevin]

Worst coaching performance in a championship game in the NDSU FCS era.

I can't help but wonder what the game would have looked like without that 19 play, 10 minute+ drive.

[fmfantasy]

Great game but our be the "nice guy" strategy all year late in games almost lost this one... We need to blow out teams, no more of this downing the ball inside the 5 to end games.....

[CyPanth]

I can't help but wonder what the game would have looked like without that 19 play, 10 minute+ drive.


How many times have Bison opponents asked something like this?

[fmfantasy]

Worst coaching performance in a championship game in the NDSU FCS era.


for sure but still won...

[Bison_Pride]

NDSU won.

Thats all that matters.

[23Bison]

We played well but I have a feeling that we only played well for maybe 2/3 of the game. Great win ! Love this team!! Go Bison!!

[bisonp]

Both teams made a lot of mistakes but even so, I thought Eastern Washington looked like the real deal. Congrats to them not just on their season, but in perhaps making the Big Sky competitive again.

[MNLonghorn10]

fun game. better than a 49-20 blow out that i was fearing.

[GSUsTALON]

I can't help but wonder what the game would have looked like without that 19 play, 10 minute+ drive.

Your first drive was 8 min & then the 10 min drive & yet you only had a 3 & a half lead in time of possession.


NDSU won and thats all that matters.

[bisonaudit]

Your first drive was 8 min & then the 10 min drive & yet you only had a 3 & a half lead in time of possession.


NDSU won and thats all that matters.

?? Radio said top was 40 min v 20 min ??

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[bisonp]

?? Radio said top was 40 min v 20 min ??

That's what ESPN says.

[MNLonghorn10]

Look at this dolt

https://bigskyfans.com/eagles/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5808&start=160#p76671

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[HerdistheWord]

Top
ewu- 19:55
ndsu- 40:05

[No_Skill]

Decade of Dominance

[Bison4peat]

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Looking forward to next year! How spoiled are we as a fanbase that this is the expectation.

[ndsubison1]

Next year going to be interesting

[heffray]

Next year going to be interesting

Yyyyyyeeeeeeepppppppp.........

[noryan34]

Postgame pressers live on Twitter https://t.co/4VNDOMRCDX

[NFH Schlüssel]

Thanks for the link

[MontBison]

Would be nice if we could get a half decent playing surface every year.

[wagsabison]

Next year going to be interesting

Had our moments where we didn’t play good today. EWU proved to be the 2nd best team IMO. Be interesting how they respond next year too with losing a lot.

I agree. Next year will have its struggles but will be fun. Young team with plenty of talent.


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[WFBisonFan]

7th title. Big win, but ugly at times. Very surprised at how poorly we played on D. Give EWU credit, they are much improved, but without some uncharacteristic play by us, this is 38-10 win or worse. Felt bad for Bruce not getting to play. Thanks to the seniors and coaches who leave the program in great shape. Hard to complain when we are on top again!

[2011BisonAlumni]

Look at this dolt

https://bigskyfans.com/eagles/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5808&start=160#p76671

You know how I know they were unbeatable?

Because they were never beat.

[NWNDBison]

Thanks for the link

Yes! Thank you very much!!!

[scottietohottie]

Is it to early to make fun of Hank Jacobs?

[GSUsTALON]

?? Radio said top was 40 min v 20 min ??

You would half to be right on that one. My Bad & thanks for the correction!

[MNLonghorn10]

anyone know who the lady in the aviators was behind Klieman in the post game interview? She tried grabbing his arm and he ripped it from her grasp and kept walking.

kinda weird.

[noryan34]

https://t.co/ReFl6MMquL Link for NDSU

[scottietohottie]

anyone know who the lady in the aviators was behind Klieman in the post game interview? She tried grabbing his arm and he ripped it from her grasp and kept walking.

kinda weird.

Klieman said get away hay

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

anyone know who the lady in the aviators was behind Klieman in the post game interview? She tried grabbing his arm and he ripped it from her grasp and kept walking.

kinda weird.

Kansas press? Just a guess. No idea

[oldmantutters]

Is it to early to make fun of Hank Jacobs?Nope, go ahead.

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[oldmantutters]

anyone know who the lady in the aviators was behind Klieman in the post game interview? She tried grabbing his arm and he ripped it from her grasp and kept walking.

kinda weird.Laughed so hard at that. Mistress?

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[HerdBot]

Worst coaching performance in a championship game in the NDSU FCS era.

I bet you would bitch your ice cream is too cold. We won.

[BadlandsBison]

Enjoy this Championship!

Easterns defense played the absolute best I’ve seen out of all the games I’ve watched them play. Give them credit, they were well prepared. Meanwhile our offense was not sharp today but we got it done.

Bison defense wasn’t in finest form but they got it done, too. Barrieres wild throwing is typical for him, he makes some good throws then bad throws but he’s quick as heck. That running is good as well.

[Vet70]

Worst coaching performance in a championship game in the NDSU FCS era.

It never ceases to amaze me (but I am not surprised) how much people gripe about how we win.

[fmfantasy]

[QUOTE=wagsabison;1329278]Had our moments where we didn’t play good today. EWU proved to be the 2nd best team IMO. Be interesting how they respond next year too with losing a lot.


I think SDSU was still a clear #2. we shot ourselves in the foot all game long and this was on a neutral site.. EWU would have lost by 35 in the dome with even half the coaching errors..

[WeAreThePride]

Second most points we’ve scored in a chipper. But sure, the offense sucked today.

[fmfantasy]

that left tackle for EWU could have been called for holding on every play... and they were all obvious.. have never seen that before in a game.. They kept talking about escapeability?? yeah my 48 yr old ass could escape with that kind of hold on the edge..

[Vet70]

[/Quote]I think SDSU was still a clear #2. we shot ourselves in the foot all game long and this was on a neutral site.. EWU would have lost by 35 in the dome with even half the coaching errors..[/QUOTE]

Estimates were 75% of the fans were Bison supporters. I wouldn't be surprised if it was more. Fargo South has not been a neutral site for some time. Both teams shot themselves in the foot all game.

[tony]

The team is going to be so different next year - guys like Tuszka and Brooks play with a ton of emotion whereas the "old guard" seemed a little more even-keeled (at least on the surface.)

[Snowgoose]

What a great win and such a great group of seniors. I was bummed for Anderson not getting to finish a great senior season as he has improved a lot. Klieman did a great job and I am thnakful he was our coach. Now let’s get a game against them in a few years and go down and beat them 😁. So proud to be a bison fan with these great young men as they could not have represented NDSU any better on and off the field.

I thought Kleimans choice to kick the field goal was fine as it was a 50/50 decision. If we were only up ten then u go for it cause a field doesn’t change much but if u go up 17 the game is over for sure.

[thebigund]

1) Thank you Seniors. No words can really describe this accomplishment and the positive influence it will have on the program for years to come.
2) Easton Stick. Still the best QB in FCS and rightful Payton Award winner. Thank you for everything Easton. It has been an honor to watch you over the years. FCS record holder for wins. Future NFL QB. Greatest QB in NDSU history. What a final play for an unmatched career.
3) Shep was MVP in my books until Stick's last TD run. Amazing performance when we needed it most.
4) Congrats to EWU on a tough game. I have a lot of respect for their coach. He seems like he gets it.
5) What a crazy game. Sloppy at times. Purely chaotic at others. That third quarter took years off my life. The fake field goal that somehow everyone in Bison Nation knew was going to be fake except the coaching staff. That missed kick in the 4th, wtf was that? Great way to cap off a 19 play drive.
6) Really looking forward to seeing Hendricks step into the leadership role on defense next year. He played a great game. Very happy for Menard to end his career with a sack as well.
7) As much as I'll miss Klieman I won't miss his time management skills. Let's hope that Entz learns from those mistakes.

You honestly think Stick will play in the NFL?

[WeAreThePride]

Why wasn’t Bruce playing? And Brock Robbins?

[WeAreThePride]

You honestly think Stick will play in the NFL?

You honestly think he won’t?

[Vet70]

Why wasn’t Bruce playing? And Brock Robbins?

Bruce still with the quad injury, Robbins suspended.

[WeAreThePride]

Bruce still with the quad injury, Robbins suspended.

Any word on why?

[Kevin]

You honestly think Stick will play in the NFL?

Yes.


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[23Bison]

Failed NCAA drug test with a positive indication of a banned stimulant.

[IzzyFlexion]

FG attempt to go up by 3 scores was absolutely a good decision. Cam missed an easy one......but if he had made it.....I wonder how many fans would think it was bad strategy......I'm guessing ZERO.

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

Worst coaching performance in a championship game in the NDSU FCS era.

Think Kansas State is having buyer's remorse.

[headedscorp]

Anybody have information on the welcome home party time/place to meet the team!!

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

FG attempt to go up by 3 scores was absolutely a good decision. Cam missed an easy one......but if he had made it.....I wonder how many fans would think it was bad strategy......I'm guessing ZERO.

Never the less, ahead of it, more people were thinking/saying go for it than not.

[2011BisonAlumni]

I bet you would bitch your ice cream is too cold. We won.

Regardless, it still wasn’t a good coaching performance.

[tony]

Great to see Greg Menard have such a monster game.

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

Failed NCAA drug test with a positive indication of a banned stimulant.

Wasn't able to watch the game as all of a sudden my espn2 program was no longer valid. Have no idea why. How did his replacement play?

[Ndsu84]

My favorite thing about the Bison is they’re such a fine tuned machine, usually. No doubt coach leaving screwed them up a bit, but they’re so good they still won.

I wish the audience could have seen Bruce at his best, and KState fans could see just how disciplined this team is.

Maybe Eastern deserves more credit than I’m giving but that fake field goal was too big of an example of shit that just doesn’t happen to NDSU.

[Bison Dan]

Worst coaching performance in a championship game in the NDSU FCS era.

Your still an idiot.

[IzzyFlexion]

My favorite thing about the Bison is they’re such a fine tuned machine, usually. No doubt coach leaving screwed them up a bit, but they’re so good they still won.

I wish the audience could have seen Bruce at his best, and KState fans could see just how disciplined this team is.

Maybe Eastern deserves more credit than I’m giving but that fake field goal was too big of an example of shit that just doesn’t happen to NDSU.

Unless I'm forgetting something, I believe that NDSU went the entire season without a gadget play. I think last year as well.

[Bison20]

Never the less, ahead of it, more people were thinking/saying go for it than not.

Y not kick it, it was a chip shot to go up 3 scores with 4 minutes left. Would have put the game away. Cant blame a missed tg from there on a bad coaching decision since he missed

[IzzyFlexion]

Y not kick it, it was a chip shot to go up 3 scores with 4 minutes left. Would have put the game away. Cant blame a missed tg from there on a bad coaching decision since he missed

Indeed. Nearly extra point distance.
That's why teams kick more extra points than going for 2....Not a lot of difference in the strategy that occurred on the missed FG.

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

Y not kick it, it was a chip shot to go up 3 scores with 4 minutes left. Would have put the game away. Cant blame a missed tg from there on a bad coaching decision since he missed

I think it was based on the fact Peterson has never been solid.

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

How many passes did Shep have and for how many tot yards.

[Bison20]

I think it was based on the fact Peterson has never been solid.

If if was from 50 I agree but it was a chip shot. He had a bad year last season and then a great championship game. Made a game winner in Iowa too. He has made big kicks but missed plenty but you cant assume he misses that one

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

A real bummer that Bruce Anderson couldn't play.

[IzzyFlexion]

If if was from 50 I agree but it was a chip shot. He had a bad year last season and then a great championship game. Made a game winner in Iowa too. He has made big kicks but missed plenty but you cant assume he misses that one

Yup....
Pederson was 83/85 for the season on PAT kicks. (20 yards)
The missed FG was from 23.
And yes....it was the first and only game on grass this season....but still.....83/85. (including 3/3 today)

[Ndsu84]

Unless I'm forgetting something, I believe that NDSU went the entire season without a gadget play. I think last year as well.

What’s your point? Mine was they don’t allow it but did today.

[Bison_Pride]

I wonder if they wanted Bruce 100% for the senior bowl and for his pro day. A LOT of money at stake. That's a lot to risk.

[IzzyFlexion]

What’s your point? Mine was they don’t allow it but did today.

I don't have a problem with your post whatsoever.....Simply pointing out that NDSU did not attempt any type of fake this season......jeez.

[Ndsu84]

I don't have a problem with your post whatsoever.....Simply pointing out that NDSU did not attempt any type of fake this season......jeez.

Oh.

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[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

Your still an idiot.

I agree with you, but it's actually: 'you're'.

[CAS4127]

Failed NCAA drug test with a positive indication of a banned stimulant.

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[Kevin]

I agree with you, but it's actually: 'you're'.

No its not.

[ndsubison1]

Failed NCAA drug test with a positive indication of a banned stimulant.

I heard a rumor of where he got it from, but won't share. Could be way off

[NDSU1980]

I think it was based on the fact Peterson has never been solid.

Radio guys acted like the ball was mishandled before Cam had a chance to kick it. Bad placement isn't Peterson's fault.

[IzzyFlexion]

No its not.

I think it might be...……"" '" ' yo" 'r"e" """ ' ' ' "

[Kevin]

I think it might be...……"" '" ' yo" 'r"e" """ ' ' ' "

Your correct. There wrong.

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

radio guys acted like the ball was mishandled before cam had a chance to kick it. Bad placement isn't peterson's fault.

k ..............

[sage]

What a great win! I'm Montana Bison fan and love your fan base and NDSU program. What an accomplishment this school has done. A record that may not be broken for many years to come. Very proud to be a Bison fan. Love this team.

[BadlandsBison]

I think it might be...……"" '" ' yo" 'r"e" """ ' ' ' "

Can confirm yor' right

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

Eastern actually only scored 3 points more than I though they would get. I did think we would get more than 38, but that's nothing to sneeze at. The TD they got that pissed me off was the one at the end of the 1st half.

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

Can confirm yor' right

Ewe guys are really frikked up.

[IzzyFlexion]

Probably already been pointed out...…..but, their 24 points today was their 2nd lowest scoring output of the season (lost 14-6 to Weber St.)

[scottietohottie]

Failed NCAA drug test with a positive indication of a banned stimulant.

Don't take candy from strangers.

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

Probably already been pointed out...…..but, their 24 points today was their 2nd lowest scoring output of the season (lost 14-6 to Weber St.)

Bet they're a better team now than they were then.

[semobison]

Kicking the field goal was absolutely the right call. A chip shot to make it a three possession game with 3:00 to play. Easy to question that call after he missed.
That ten minute plus drive was beautiful but we came await with nothing. You can watch a lot of football and not see anything like that ever again.
We had multiple chances to go up three scores during the game. I thought our offense was ultra conservative when we had the ball with a two score lead.

[Elvis was a Bison]

In case you missed it, or read it and forgot it, Massey had predicted a final score of NDSU 38 - EWU 24. Know anyone that closer???

[IzzyFlexion]

Bet they're a better team now than they were then.

I agree with you there fo sho.

[WeAreThePride]

Did Stick really rush for all 3 rushing TDs? The stat sheet says so...

[BisonEngrGirl]

Did Stick really rush for all 3 rushing TDs? The stat sheet says so...

Yes


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[SoCalBison]

McPherson was a beast and Barriere will improve. EWU was tougher than I thought, but Bison toughed it out today--better prepared in all phases and Easton would not be denied. Best of luck to the seniors and Klieman. Now lots of time to discuss the 2019 version of the Bison that we'll see in about 8 months. Reversion to the mean or continuation of excellence, despite the graduation of a large senior class?

[Vet70]

Did Stick really rush for all 3 rushing TDs? The stat sheet says so...

Maybe it was his doppelganger. He also led the team in rushing with 128 yards.

[WeAreThePride]

How can the guy who scored 5 TDs not be the MOP?

[Bisonguy]

Yup....
Pederson was 83/85 for the season on PAT kicks. (20 yards)
The missed FG was from 23.
And yes....it was the first and only game on grass this season....but still.....83/85. (including 3/3 today)

How many of those PATs were from the right hash?

The fact that a right footed kicker on the right hash that close can’t see what you’re aiming for, the ball will usually hook right to left, and trying to pull the ball across your body make that kick a lot more difficult than most folks realize. I’m sure the solid footing <purplez> provided by the grass helped make a difficult kick even easier.


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[IzzyFlexion]

How many of those PATs were from the right hash?

The fact that a right footed kicker on the right hash that close can’t see what you’re aiming for, the ball will usually hook right to left, and trying to pull the ball across your body make that kick a lot more difficult than most folks realize. I’m sure the solid footing <purplez> provided by the grass helped make a difficult kick even easier.

1) NONE of the PATs were from the right hash.

2) It was a hook alright. But I don't think that field position was COMPLETELY to blame.....It was either a poor hold or he just flat out miss-hit it....because it was a real shanker.

3) For those familiar with a college football practice, place kickers spend oodles of time in relative solitude. They spend countless hours practice kicking from every conceivable position, angle, and distance.

4) Cam is a senior......He's been doing the aforementioned for a looonnng time and has been an important part of the program. He earned the right to be called upon in that situation.

5) He missed a field goal. Doesn't make him a bad guy or a bad player.

6) My point is: It was a prudent decision to attempt a field goal in that particular situation.

[bisonaudit]

How can the guy who scored 5 TDs not be the MOP?

Ballots due with 5 min left in game. Also, 2 picks. Also it's the media and shep is a good story.

[23Bison]

1) NONE of the PATs were from the right hash.

2) It was a hook alright. But I don't think that field position was COMPLETELY to blame.....It was either a poor hold or he just flat out miss-hit it....because it was a real shanker.

3) For those familiar with a college football practice, place kickers spend oodles of time in relative solitude. They spend countless hours practice kicking from every conceivable position, angle, and distance.

4) Cam is a senior......He's been doing the aforementioned for a looonnng time and has been an important part of the program. He earned the right to be called upon in that situation.

5) He missed a field goal. Doesn't make him a bad guy or a bad player.

6) My point is: It was a prudent decision to attempt a field goal in that particular situation.

I agree for the most part but going for it and not converting would have put EWU inside the 5 to start with instead of the 25.

[Vet70]

I agree for the most part but going for it and not converting would have put EWU inside the 5 to start with instead of the 25.

It was actually a start at the 20. The way EWU sliced and diced the Bison D on that drive it may not have made any difference if they started at the 5.

[23Bison]

It was actually a start at the 20. The way EWU sliced and diced the Bison D on that drive it may not have made any difference if they started at the 5.

Thank you for the correction. I believe they would have tried running out but I do remember two plays earlier this year where I was waiting for a safety and all I got was the other team getting a big play or scoring on the next play.

Sad really.

[IzzyFlexion]

I agree for the most part but going for it and not converting would have put EWU inside the 5 to start with instead of the 25.

Don't get me wrong. I am certainly not saying that going for the 1st down would have been a bad decision. I'm just saying that it is my opinion that kicking was MORE advantageous. Didn't work out. Won't ever know if the other call would have worked out or not.

Now.....they did take the ball 80 yards on 4 plays immediately after the miss. Could they have covered 94 yards that quickly or close to it? (hypothetically assuming that they stuffed the 4th down play) Maybe.....again.....we'll never know. One of the many beautiful things about football.

[td577]

It was actually a start at the 20. The way EWU sliced and diced the Bison D on that drive it may not have made any difference if they started at the 5.FG attempt was the right decision every time in that situation. Let's say they did go for it and turned over on downs. EWU's play selection would probably been different from the five. They might have still sliced up the defense, but I think it would have chewed up some time getting it out from so deep.

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[BadlandsBison]

Don't get me wrong. I am certainly not saying that going for the 1st down would have been a bad decision. I'm just saying that it is my opinion that kicking was MORE advantageous. Didn't work out. Won't ever know if the other call would have worked out or not.

Now.....they did take the ball 80 yards on 4 plays immediately after the miss. Could they have covered 94 yards that quickly or close to it? (hypothetically assuming that they stuffed the 4th down play) Maybe.....again.....we'll never know. One of the many beautiful things about football.

Either decision is fine in that situation. One thing to consider, Cam is a senior and Coach K probably wanted the seniors to have their shot in the game.

[LITTLEGUYSINGREEN]

that left tackle for EWU could have been called for holding on every play... and they were all obvious.. have never seen that before in a game.. They kept talking about escapeability?? yeah my 48 yr old ass could escape with that kind of hold on the edge..

Quoted for truth. Unbelievable how our D ends were getting mugged all game and no flags were thrown.

[HerdistheWord]

I would have been fine with either 4th down call. I can see the advantage of going for it and trying to run down more time. However, the FG is a high probability from that distance and a made FG makes it a 3 score game. I was happy with the decision either way, because both choices were logical. I just got annoyed by those who considered the FG choice to be bad coaching. Bad coaching doesn't net you 7 championships in 8 years. It also was a logical and smart coaching decision.

[Vet70]

FG attempt was the right decision every time in that situation. Let's say they did go for it and turned over on downs. EWU's play selection would probably been different from the five. They might have still sliced up the defense, but I think it would have chewed up some time getting it out from so deep.

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I don't have a problem with the FG. And as far as starting from the 5, only the shadow knows if it would have made any difference.

[Vet70]

I love irony. Visit the EWU fan board and they complain about the NDSU holding and the refs looking the other way. In addition, they were sloppy, didn't play their best and even used the "shooting ourselves in the foot" reference. Even the poor coaching decision for the 3rd string QB getting into the game. Did I mention I love irony?

[CalBison97]

I’m hoping to see some gold in the crowd of the Cowboys/Seahawks game. Any Bison fans there?

[noryan34]

I love irony. Visit the EWU fan board and they complain about the NDSU holding and the refs looking the other way. In addition, they were sloppy, didn't play their best and even used the "shooting ourselves in the foot" reference. Even the poor coaching decision for the 3rd string QB getting into the game. Did I mention I love irony?

My favorite everyear is the you have never seen _____ like ours before crowd. This year it was their offense.

Yet NDSU essentially hit their season averages in yards and scoring while their offense was held to 2/3 of the yards and almost 3 TD below their season average.

[Bison bison]

Looking forward to next season.

[Hammerhead]

Sucks for Bruuuce who didn’t get to play. Thank Bison for another great year!

[BisonNeil]

Worst coaching performance in a championship game in the NDSU FCS era.

Absolutely agree. How Kleiman can be so f’ing oblivious to trick plays on special teams this year and last is mind numbing.

[CalBison97]

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[Bison"FANatic"]

I finally saw a someone who could make Cox look a bit slow. Heck he had the angle and their QB ran away a few times. That is impressive considering how great Cox is. He did a very good job keeping him in check as well as he did.

[CAS4127]

Either decision is fine in that situation. One thing to consider, Cam is a senior and Coach K probably wanted the seniors to have their shot in the game.

I saw that happen in the ‘84 Natty and we ended up losing as a result. We’d have 16 Natty’s but for trying to make a feel-good story with Sr’s. It’s a contest to win, not manufacture storylines. Those make themselves.


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[Vet70]

Absolutely agree. How Kleiman can be so f’ing oblivious to trick plays on special teams this year and last is mind numbing.

It's a good thing we're getting rid of the bum.

[BISON Thunder]

My favorite everyear is the you have never seen _____ like ours before crowd. This year it was their offense.

Yet NDSU essentially hit their season averages in yards and scoring while their offense was held to 2/3 of the yards and almost 3 TD below their season average.
This right here...it isn’t always pretty, and rarely is pretty necessary.

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

I love irony. Visit the EWU fan board and they complain about the NDSU holding and the refs looking the other way. In addition, they were sloppy, didn't play their best and even used the "shooting ourselves in the foot" reference. Even the poor coaching decision for the 3rd string QB getting into the game. Did I mention I love irony?

In the Post Game Presser, the EWU coach said their loss was due to penalties, and he was ADAMANT.

[ndsubison1]

It was a close kick he shouldve made. Simple as that. We go for it and dont get it, ppl would be pissed too.

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

It was a close kick he shouldve made. Simple as that. We go for it and dont get it, ppl would be pissed too.

But not as much.

[bisonaudit]

But not as much.

Lol. More. No purple. More for sure.

[CAS4127]

Couple of thoughts:

1. We normally win because we are the better team and play with more effort and emotion. Today we won because we were the better team, but got beat on effort and emotion.

2. The opening game in MPLS next season is gonna be interesting, and fans will continue to get more interested in it as all the new coaching hires come to light and so fans can see the next version of Bison football. If you think about it, that game just gets more and more interesting as it approaches.


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[IzzyFlexion]

Lol. More. No purple. More for sure.

More pissed but probably not more people...….eh, eh?.....nudge, nudge....know what I mean?:biggrin:

[bisontown]

The decision was to kick it. No doubt about it. That kick is made over 95% of the time and making it ices the game. Numbers says kick it, simple as that and was 100% the right call.

[LongLostAlum]

There was never really a doubt in my mind that we would win. Sagarin had us up by about 14, and we won by 14. Next year will be a new chapter with all the turnover in players and coaches. This year, I kept feeling like we were an FBS football team trapped in an FCS conference. It may have been our best team yet. Congratulations on a great year.

[bisonaudit]

There was never really a doubt in my mind that we would win. Sagarin had us up by about 14, and we won by 14. Next year will be a new chapter with all the turnover in players and coaches. This year, I kept feeling like we were an FBS football team trapped in an FCS conference. It may have been our best team yet. Congratulations on a great year.

If you're getting your never a doubt level of confidence from the Sagarin line, it's misplaced.

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

[QUOTE=bisontown;1329482]The decision was to kick it. No doubt about it. That kick is made over 95% of the time and making it ices the game. Numbers says kick it, simple as that and was 100% the right call.[/QUOTE

Peterson is 61%.

[1998braves64]

Good game could have been a bit cleaner especially when things went sideways in 3rd quarter.

Thanks to the seniors and klieman (who absolutely handled the coaching change the way it should be. Hopefully now the blueprint is there on future coaching changes) for the last 5 years.

Looking forward to next year to see the new faces.

The FG call for me I felt your reward outdoes the consequences in that situation, not that they don't ice the game if cam hits it. Obviously the miss gave me a ton of justification for me saying that no doubt. I told my wife we should go for it and be done with it.

[bisonaudit]

[QUOTE=bisontown;1329482]The decision was to kick it. No doubt about it. That kick is made over 95% of the time and making it ices the game. Numbers says kick it, simple as that and was 100% the right call.[/QUOTE

Peterson is 61%.

Please it was an extra point. Get out of here with your 61% .

[IzzyFlexion]

[QUOTE=bisontown;1329482]The decision was to kick it. No doubt about it. That kick is made over 95% of the time and making it ices the game. Numbers says kick it, simple as that and was 100% the right call.[/QUOTE

Peterson is 61%.

100% (3 for 3) from inside of 30 yards heading into today's game. The miss today was from 24 yards.

[bisontown]

[QUOTE=bloodmakesthegrassgrow;1329491]

100% (3 for 3) from inside of 30 yards heading into today's game. The miss today was from 24 yards.

Right!! Haha. This 61% crap is hilarious. Was an extra point. Thought Klieman made a great decision to call a time out and take the O off the field and kick it. Again was 100% the right call.

[Vet70]

Right!! Haha. This 61% crap is hilarious. Was an extra point. Thought Klieman made a great decision to call a time out and take the O off the field and kick it. Again was 100% the right call.

It's really a shame the miss cost us the game.

[bisontown]

Who said it did?

[bisonaudit]

It's really a shame the miss cost us the game.

This is about "attacking the process" and for once this process was correct. The result is not very relevant.

[Vet70]

Who said it did?

It would take too long to explain. :biggrin:

[CalBison97]

Since we can’t seem to let go, I wonder what Easton’s stats were on 4th and less than 2 during his career.

[Vet70]

This is about "attacking the process" and for once this process was correct. The result is not very relevant.

I get it---an "academic" exercise: "not of practical relevance; of only theoretical interest".

[bisonaudit]

I get it---an "academic" exercise: "not of practical relevance; of only theoretical interest".

Yeah. No. Not even a little bit.

[Vet70]

Yeah. No. Not even a little bit.

I'll just take your word for it.

[bisonaudit]

I'll just take your word for it.

Maybe take the head coach's, that is who I quoted.

[BisManBison]

Learned a few things from some insufferable EWU fans here after the game:

1. NDSU really wasn’t that good.
2. EWU blew the game.
3. The refs cost them the game.

I don’t know how anyone else felt, but I never felt the game was in jeopardy, they just weren’t good enough. They played with a lot of heart, but just weren’t good enough to make enough plays despite a lack luster performance by NDSU. And their QB was fast and that was about it. He was baited bad into both int’s. He just wasn’t good enough to beat us with his arm.

[Vet70]

Maybe take the head coach's, that is who I quoted.

He said "Yeah. No. Not even a little bit"? Having fun? :facepalm:

[bisonaudit]

He said "Yeah. No. Not even a little bit"? Having fun?

you know the bit with the quotes around it. "Attack the process"

And yes I am having fun defending a decision to kick, for once.

[Vet70]

you know the bit with the quotes around it. "Attack the process"

And yes I am having fun defending a decision to kick, for once.

I never said it was a bad decision.

[oldmantutters]

I get the thought process behind kicking, it just felt like going for it there was the call. Never thought Klieman would go for it because he plays everything so straight up, but a first down there burns another 2 minutes (minimum) off the clock.

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[DBRJake]

Gotta feel for Cam a bit. Last game of his career and have a sour kick like that and no other FG attempts to redeem himself.

[No_Skill]

you know the bit with the quotes around it. "Attack the process"

And yes I am having fun defending a decision to kick, for once.

That's what has me confused. Aren't you one of the proponents of always going for it on 4th down inside the 50? If the numbers say that going for it is statistically more beneficial, the game situation shouldn't matter.

[Vet70]

That's what has me confused. Aren't you one of the proponents of always going for it on 4th down inside the 50? If the numbers say that going for it is statistically more beneficial, the game situation shouldn't matter.

Tag, your it.

[No_Skill]

Tag, your it.

:) I'm not trying to take any jabs at anyone. Just conversation.

I would have preferred that we go for it in that situation. To me, the potential benefits far outweighed the negatives in that situation.

[NodakGreg]

Worst coaching performance in a championship game in the NDSU FCS era.

Well that's somewhat true,...:
1. Fake Field goal - everyone in our house said they need more points, this might be a fake, and so it was.....omg, special teams in 2 Natty's in a row, not good!
2. 2 stalled offensive drives in 4th qtr, - so predictable play calling, EWU knew we would just run and take no chances, 3 and out, 3 and out - that won't fly in Manhattan...
3. 10minute drive from hell - OUTSTANDING WOW! in a Nat.Title Game, but couldn't put points on the board...thank God we had 14 point cushion.
4. After missed chip shot - guess what EWU is going to do, throw some deep balls fast, MAtt Entz - WHAT the Hell are you doing not putting Cox in the Middle of the field to stop some of those massive sink holes in the field... so they fly free untouched? No one in the middle lots of the game? REALLY! We got lucky EWU made mistakes....

5. Lastly - THANK YOU HERD - EASTON for being one tough SOB. Throws 3 TDS and runs 2 in, incredible stats in a title game and it wasn't our best, SDSU was THE GAME!
We left lots on the field, yet the lack of experience of the other team helped give us some breaks, but that's not our fault, EWU not a disciplined team for having 27 seniors....

So us Bison Fans have to quit being so picky, take a 14 point win and enjoy it right? Its tough when you expect perfection every week....

Its been a fun run for the past 8 years......can we get 4 more NATTYs in 4 years....? why not.

Go Bison, Be Herd,
Nodak Bisman

[Vet70]

:) I'm not trying to take any jabs at anyone. Just conversation.

I would have preferred that we go for it in that situation. To me, the potential benefits far outweighed the negatives in that situation.

I understand. Personally, I would have been okay either way.

[bisonaudit]

That's what has me confused. Aren't you one of the proponents of always going for it on 4th down inside the 50? If the numbers say that going for it is statistically more beneficial, the game situation shouldn't matter.

I'm not always for just about anything.

The Game situation matters quite a bit sometimes.

Any number of points there ends the game. A first down also ends the game. 95 percent chance to make the kick. Less than that to get a first down. That ignores some sublties but it seems pretty straight forward to me.

[JCEE1990]

Kicking the field goal was absolutely the right call. A chip shot to make it a three possession game with 3:00 to play. Easy to question that call after he missed.
That ten minute plus drive was beautiful but we came await with nothing. You can watch a lot of football and not see anything like that ever again.
We had multiple chances to go up three scores during the game. I thought our offense was ultra conservative when we had the ball with a two score lead.

I was thinking the same about getting nothing from that drive, but then I realized we came away from that drive without their offense being on the field for ten minutes.

[bisonlax44]

So what's next? Eight would be Great?

[BadlandsBison]

I saw that happen in the ‘84 Natty and we ended up losing as a result. We’d have 16 Natty’s but for trying to make a feel-good story with Sr’s. It’s a contest to win, not manufacture storylines. Those make themselves.


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I feel that is how the field goal call came. Klieman is leaving, the seniors are gone soon. Just my thoughts, so happy for the team and seniors

[HerdBot]

So what's next? Eight would be Great?

What do we think we're We Fest

[MNLonghorn10]

Learned a few things from some insufferable EWU fans here after the game:

1. NDSU really wasn’t that good.
2. EWU blew the game.
3. The refs cost them the game.

I don’t know how anyone else felt, but I never felt the game was in jeopardy, they just weren’t good enough. They played with a lot of heart, but just weren’t good enough to make enough plays despite a lack luster performance by NDSU. And their QB was fast and that was about it. He was baited bad into both int’s. He just wasn’t good enough to beat us with his arm.Happens every year. My favorite is the dork saying ndsu isnt unbeatable after going 15-0.
Ewus defense did well. Running back was tough. QB was below impressive besides a few throws, he looked immature out there.

They'll be back because of the bad big sky. Probably a top 4 seed again.


Im happy it wasn't decided at halftime

[gizmo]

EWU is one of the better teams the Bison have played in Frisco...always respect your opponent. Everybody that thought we would steamroll them was obviously wrong. Then, those same people claim the Bison played poorly forgetting that there was actually another good team on the field that had a lot to do with the Bison's "poor play".

What about all of the spoiled fans who have been clamoring for closer games? Were they happy when there was actually a chance the game could be lost? I can only imagine the clamor to "fire Klieman"! Lol!

The FCS national championship is one of the hardest titles to win in all of sports. Period. Just ask all of those other teams not named NDSU. Every championship is deserved, no matter if it is won by a single point or 40, and not nearly enough credit is given to the runner-up.

[BisonNeil]

1) NONE of the PATs were from the right hash.

2) It was a hook alright. But I don't think that field position was COMPLETELY to blame.....It was either a poor hold or he just flat out miss-hit it....because it was a real shanker.

3) For those familiar with a college football practice, place kickers spend oodles of time in relative solitude. They spend countless hours practice kicking from every conceivable position, angle, and distance.

4) Cam is a senior......He's been doing the aforementioned for a looonnng time and has been an important part of the program. He earned the right to be called upon in that situation.

5) He missed a field goal. Doesn't make him a bad guy or a bad player.

6) My point is: It was a prudent decision to attempt a field goal in that particular situation.

I agree it wasn’t Cam’s fault but he shouldn’t have been put in that position. You would have to be completely blind to the fact that he hasn’t been consistent in his career. Yes he had made some big kicks, but consistency had not been his forte. I disagree that kicking the FG was the prudent thing to do. The ball was right in front of me and it was 1+ Yds from a first down. Grow a pair Klieman! Go for the kill. He was a great coach but he lacked the killer instinct which will continue to plague him I’m afraid.

[Elvis was a Bison]

After a good nights sleep, all that needs to be said is we won "the darn day", and we are National Champions again.

[X-Factor]

Yup....
Pederson was 83/85 for the season on PAT kicks. (20 yards)
The missed FG was from 23.
And yes....it was the first and only game on grass this season....but still.....83/85. (including 3/3 today)

Anybody go back to look if the snap and spot were solid? Someone messed up obviously, but not necessarily has to be on Cam

[BisonNeil]

EWU is one of the better teams the Bison have played in Frisco...always respect your opponent. Everybody that thought we would steamroll them was obviously wrong. Then, those same people claim the Bison played poorly forgetting that there was actually another good team on the field that had a lot to do with the Bison's "poor play".

What about all of the spoiled fans who have been clamoring for closer games? Were they happy when there was actually a chance the game could be lost? I can only imagine the clamor to "fire Klieman"! Lol!

The FCS national championship is one of the hardest titles to win in all of sports. Period. Just ask all of those other teams not named NDSU. Every championship is deserved, no matter if it is won by a single point or 40, and not nearly enough credit is given to the runner-up.

Not everbody! I said it would be a much closer game than the experts thought. I thought they were a good team coming in and the game confirmed that!

[scottietohottie]

It is nice waking up with my eyebrows still on.

[EC8CH]

I thought it was odd they didn't center up the kick for that last FG, kept it on the right hash instead. Maybe Cam wanted it that way?

Fluky game from start to finish. Glad the Bison held on for the win. Cowboys Seattle game felt the same way. Always seemed like Dallas should win but so many wierd big plays felt like anything could happen.

Winning Championships Never Gets Old!

[scottietohottie]

Saw Klieman get off the plane in Fargo. Does that mean one last final last bison football show. That's classy if so. Also noticed Stick didn't get off the plane. He must be training for pro day. Nice.

[Vet70]

I agree it wasn’t Cam’s fault but he shouldn’t have been put in that position. You would have to be completely blind to the fact that he hasn’t been consistent in his career. Yes he had made some big kicks, but consistency had not been his forte. I disagree that kicking the FG was the prudent thing to do. The ball was right in front of me and it was 1+ Yds from a first down. Grow a pair Klieman! Go for the kill. He was a great coach but he lacked the killer instinct which will continue to plague him I’m afraid.

Different call but going for the FG and being up 3 scores would have been the dagger.

[Christopher Moen]

I thought it was odd they didn't center up the kick for that last FG, kept it on the right hash instead. Maybe Cam wanted it that way?

Fluky game from start to finish. Glad the Bison held on for the win. Cowboys Seattle game felt the same way. Always seemed like Dallas should win but so many wierd big plays felt like anything could happen.

Winning Championships Never Gets Old!

The previous play ended at the right side of the field and hence, why the ball was placed on the right hash mark. If a play ends somewhere between the hash marks, that’s where the next play begins.

Due to how wide college football keeps its hash marks compared to the NFL, those short FGs are tougher when kicking from the hashes. If you stand by where the kick takes place and look at the angle of where the uprights are, it’s like trying a rugby kick. That’s why in college, some teams try to get the ball backed up five yards with a delay of game.

As far as the call of going for the FG or going for a first down, I was hoping they went for it which got me some dirty, “are you dumb” looks from those around me at the game. Either way was fine, but the soft, weak defense NDSU went into afterwards was what disappointed me, not the miss or not getting the first down.

Also, if you got a chance to go on the field afterwards, you got to feel how slick and soft the surface was. Maybe the new tarp they use needs to be off longer to dry the top soil a bit.

Lastly, you’re absolutely correct, Winning Championships never gets old!


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[IzzyFlexion]

I agree it wasn’t Cam’s fault but he shouldn’t have been put in that position. You would have to be completely blind to the fact that he hasn’t been consistent in his career. Yes he had made some big kicks, but consistency had not been his forte. I disagree that kicking the FG was the prudent thing to do. The ball was right in front of me and it was 1+ Yds from a first down. Grow a pair Klieman! Go for the kill. He was a great coach but he lacked the killer instinct which will continue to plague him I’m afraid.

I'm old, fat, and slow...but not blind.

During his career at NDSU, Cam Pederson kicked the ball inside of 30 yards 282 times. (XP & FG attempts). He was successful on 273 of those attempts. That's 96.8%.

Between 30-39 yards (career), he was 20-25 for 80% on FG attempts.

If a coach doesn't think that a kicker with that kind of a success rate from short yardage should be put into that position.....well.....

[Bison Dan]

I agree it wasn’t Cam’s fault but he shouldn’t have been put in that position. You would have to be completely blind to the fact that he hasn’t been consistent in his career. Yes he had made some big kicks, but consistency had not been his forte. I disagree that kicking the FG was the prudent thing to do. The ball was right in front of me and it was 1+ Yds from a first down. Grow a pair Klieman! Go for the kill. He was a great coach but he lacked the killer instinct which will continue to plague him I’m afraid.

The killer instinct would be the FG to go up 3 scores.

[tony]

The killer instinct would be the FG to go up 3 scores.

Yeah, make that xp of a a field goal and it's GAME OVER.

[MNLonghorn10]

jeremy jorgeson doing the bison show awkwardly by himself. lulz

[scottietohottie]

jeremy jorgeson doing the bison show awkwardly by himself. lulz

I knew I shouldn't have made fun of Hank Jacobs.

[56BISON73]

I'm old, fat, and slow...but not blind.

During his career at NDSU, Cam Pederson kicked the ball inside of 30 yards 282 times. (XP & FG attempts). He was successful on 273 of those attempts. That's 96.8%.

Between 30-39 yards (career), he was 20-25 for 80% on FG attempts.

If a coach doesn't think that a kicker with that kind of a success rate from short yardage should be put into that position.....well.....

Bingo.....

[GreenfieldBison]

No its not.

Oh yes it is.

[2011BisonAlumni]

Happens every year. My favorite is the dork saying ndsu isnt unbeatable after going 15-0.
Ewus defense did well. Running back was tough. QB was below impressive besides a few throws, he looked immature out there.

They'll be back because of the bad big sky. Probably a top 4 seed again.


Im happy it wasn't decided at halftime

Ya I mean after never leading for a single second in the game, spending 45 minutes of the game being down two scores, have a 20 to 40 minute TOP battle, giving up nearly 500 yards of offense, having fewer first downs and losing the turnover battle really showed everyone that the Bison were beatable this year...

[Vet70]

Ya I mean after never leading for a single second in the game, spending 45 minutes of the game being down two scores, have a 20 to 40 minute TOP battle, giving up nearly 500 yards of offense, having fewer first downs and losing the turnover battle really showed everyone that the Bison were beatable this year...

What Bison team during this run hasn't been beatable?

[2011BisonAlumni]

What Bison team during this run hasn't been beatable?

2013 and 2018

No team proved the ability to do it that year.

[HerdNugget9000]

Says something that the biggest debate after this season from other teams is "Was it physically possible to beat the Bison or not?"

[Vet70]

2013 and 2018

No team proved the ability to do it that year.

The 2013 team was down 23-10 to UNI at the end of 3 quarters and scored a touchdown with less than 3 minutes left. Sounds beatable to me.

[IzzyFlexion]

Watching the replay of the onside kick...…….

On the first attempt (Bison offsides penalty), if Ben Ellefson doesn't make that great block on EWU's Sam McPherson, he (McPherson) has a good chance of grabbing the ball out of the air on the run. Darrius Shepherd would have had a hard time stopping, changing direction, and catching him.

[oldmantutters]

Watching the replay of the onside kick...…….

On the first attempt (Bison offsides penalty), if Ben Ellefson doesn't make that great block on EWU's Sam McPherson, he (McPherson) has a good chance of grabbing the ball out of the air on the run. Darrius Shepherd would have had a hard time stopping, changing direction, and catching him.Can't advance an onsides kick as the kicking team.

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[IzzyFlexion]

Can't advance an onsides kick as the kicking team.

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Oh......was not aware of that.

[2011BisonAlumni]

The 2013 team was down 23-10 to UNI at the end of 3 quarters and scored a touchdown with less than 3 minutes left. Sounds beatable to me.

Were they beat? Did UNI prove they could by beating them?

A football game is 60 minutes long. I was at that game in 2013. Bison had more yards, first downs and dominated the TOP. They were the better football team. UNI kept it close, but getting close only matters in horseshoes.

[IndyBison]

Oh......was not aware of that.Kicking team can't advance ANY kick (kickoff, punt, try or FG) unless it's a scrimmage kick that has not crossed the neutral zone. The kick ends when it is possessed by either team or is otherwise dead by rule. So if the receiving team possesses it and then fumbles it, it's no longer a kick and recovery by the kicking team allows them to advance it. If a punt or FG or try is blocked and the kicking team recovers it before it crosses the neutral zone, they can advance it.

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[Vet70]

Were they beat? Did UNI prove they could by beating them?

A football game is 60 minutes long. I was at that game in 2013. Bison had more yards, first downs and dominated the TOP. They were the better football team. UNI kept it close, but getting close only matters in horseshoes.

Yesterday the Bison had more yards, first downs, and dominated the TOP. And yet you think EWU that lost by 14 proved that the Bison were beatable. Okay.

[bisoneer]

Take a look at the last EWU drive where they scored quickly, on about the 2nd play of that drive the slot receiver on the right lined up off sides and there was no flag.

[2011BisonAlumni]

And yet you think EWU that lost by 14 proved that the Bison were beatable. Okay.

When did I say that????

[Vet70]

Ya I mean after never leading for a single second in the game, spending 45 minutes of the game being down two scores, have a 20 to 40 minute TOP battle, giving up nearly 500 yards of offense, having fewer first downs and losing the turnover battle really showed everyone that the Bison were beatable this year...


When did I say that????

Ha, after reading it again I finally caught the sarcasm. My mistake and apologies.

[Facts]

Ha, after reading it again I finally caught the sarcasm. My mistake and apologies.

Do we have a sarcasm font?

[Vet70]

Do we have a sarcasm font?

Yes, and I find it ironic given my signature line.

[JMB]

A couple of notes about Eastern Washington.

1) I was impressed that they didn't quit. The 10 min drive could be demoralizing, but they kept fighting.
2) I thought their offensive line held up really well. They seemed to keep their qb fairly clean. Granted, we had a fairly controlled pass rush because the QB was elusive, but I thought they played well.
3) They did a decent job on defense, making adjustments to our running game. I came into the game expecting huge gaping holes. I don't think Dunn made it to 100 yards, so they tightened things down a bit.

[BadlandsBison]

Ewu’s defense put on one of, if not their best performances of the season yesterday. I thought the offense could bully them.

[04 Badger]

The problem with the field goal was the angle. At the 5 yard line on the right hashmark is a tough field goal attempt. We won and that is all that manners

[BisManBison]

Ewu’s defense put on one of, if not their best performances of the season yesterday. I thought the offense could bully them.

I thought it was more conservative play calling on our part every time we got a two score lead than it was adjustments made by EWU.

[BisonEngrGirl]

The problem with the field goal was the angle. At the 5 yard line on the right hashmark is a tough field goal attempt. We won and that is all that manners

Has it ever happened, where a team has a close weird angle FG, so they purposefully take a delay of game penalty to back up a bit?


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[DakotaOkie]

Learned a few things from some insufferable EWU fans here after the game:

1. NDSU really wasn’t that good.
2. EWU blew the game.
3. The refs cost them the game.

I don’t know how anyone else felt, but I never felt the game was in jeopardy, they just weren’t good enough. They played with a lot of heart, but just weren’t good enough to make enough plays despite a lack luster performance by NDSU. And their QB was fast and that was about it. He was baited bad into both int’s. He just wasn’t good enough to beat us with his arm.
There are always some d-bag folks out there, but all of EWU fans we encountered were really pleasant folks (before the game and after). After the game, EWU folks were congratulating us fans, high-fives for people headed down to the field, taking photos with Bison fans (admittedly that part was a bit weird), etc. There was one unexceptional guy that started the game by flipping us off as the cheering and yelling started (we were behind the EWU allotment area) but he quickly settled down. Sorry that you had the privilege of encountering the insufferable folks.

That trick play on the FG was epic (unfortunately it worked) and essentially kept EWU in the game. From the stands everyone was debating what happened and if it was legal (it was). The replays shown in the stadium did not shed much light on the play. Looking at it later online, the play was executed perfectly to the point the shovel pass sync'd with the kicker's leg movement.

The officiating crew did a good job in my opinion. They let the teams play. Yeah, there probably some holding calls not made but that went both ways. The only call I saw that seemed wrong (in person directly in front of me, at full speed, by a stands fan) was the offensive pass interference against NDSU. It will probably be there when I get around to watching the game again on TV.

Overall, that was a good game to attend and, of course, the good guys won.

[Rock]

Hail the Bison.

Thank you seniors.

Thank you Klieman- have questioned some of the in game management but that is just one component of coaching and one of the few we see as fans.

His team management, recruiting, and relationship building appear phenomenal. Guy does what he says. He has the ability to bring in really good people around him, and now the dollars to support it. Guessing he is aware of some of his deficits and will bring in people to shore that up.

He did a lot in Fargo filling new staff right off and made adjustments with staff while here.

Once a Bison. Best wishes at KState. I think he will do very well.

See you in 2023 Coach K. (Speculation).


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[BisManBison]

There are always some d-bag folks out there, but all of EWU fans we encountered were really pleasant folks (before the game and after). After the game, EWU folks were congratulating us fans, high-fives for people headed down to the field, taking photos with Bison fans (admittedly that part was a bit weird), etc. There was one unexceptional guy that started the game by flipping us off as the cheering and yelling started (we were behind the EWU allotment area) but he quickly settled down. Sorry that you had the privilege of encountering the insufferable folks.

That trick play on the FG was epic (unfortunately it worked) and essentially kept EWU in the game. From the stands everyone was debating what happened and if it was legal (it was). The replays shown in the stadium did not shed much light on the play. Looking at it later online, the play was executed perfectly to the point the shovel pass sync'd with the kicker's leg movement.

The officiating crew did a good job in my opinion. They let the teams play. Yeah, there probably some holding calls not made but that went both ways. The only call I saw that seemed wrong (in person directly in front of me, at full speed, by a stands fan) was the offensive pass interference against NDSU. It will probably be there when I get around to watching the game again on TV.

Overall, that was a good game to attend and, of course, the good guys won.

We stayed at the Westin which happened to be where the EWU team stayed, so we had lots of EWU fans talk to us after the game. I’d say about half of them were insufferable, but even the ones that were decent brought up the officiating.

[KC Bison]

In the Post Game Presser, the EWU coach said their loss was due to penalties, and he was ADAMANT.

I also saw the post game comments and yes, he blamed the loss on penalties. I was thinking there must have been a huge differential in penalties and yardage. I pulled up the stats and Bison and EW each had 8 penalties and the yardage was 61 against the Bison and 60 against EW. Reminded of the South Dakota State game, we had 9 penalties for 70 yards and somehow won that game.

[89MTBISON]

Watched about an hour of ESPN sportcenter last night, no mention of the mighty Bison. We are as stale as 3 day old fish. Perhaps I blinked.

[MAKBison]

So was a bit disappointed with the play
calling during the game. We were bitching how we were not running a shit ton of I...formations and looks etc. Now after catching up, I see BRobbibs did not play.....it all makes sense.

Given the multiple running back injury situation and now knowing the Fback situation, I understand who so vanilla.

EWU should know this....we beat u running about a third of the playbook.

[IzzyFlexion]

Was hoping to see Bruce come onto the field for the last (kneel down) play.

Rushing, receiving, special teams.....what a great career for #8.

[DM05]

Was hoping to see Bruce come onto the field for the last (kneel down) play.

Rushing, receiving, special teams.....what a great career for #8.

He's listed on the participation list....must've gotten in towards the end at some point.

[DakotaOkie]

Was hoping to see Bruce come onto the field for the last (kneel down) play.

Rushing, receiving, special teams.....what a great career for #8.
Bruce was in the game for one or two plays in the second (?) quarter. Most likely as a decoy at that point. Great Bison career for sure.

[wagsabison]

So was a bit disappointed with the play
calling during the game. We were bitching how we were not running a shit ton of I...formations and looks etc. Now after catching up, I see BRobbibs did not play.....it all makes sense.

Given the multiple running back injury situation and now knowing the Fback situation, I understand who so vanilla.

EWU should know this....we beat u running about a third of the playbook.

Combo of Brock and Bruce out lessened our power running game. Rest of the guys are more elusive, they aren’t going to pound the rock. Dunn played well tho.


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[IzzyFlexion]

He's listed on the participation list....must've gotten in towards the end at some point.


Bruce was in the game for one or two plays in the second (?) quarter. Most likely as a decoy at that point. Great Bison career for sure.

Oh wow.....I didn't notice that he was in there. Well....that's fantastic! So glad he got a chance to participate in this one.

[wisco4]

I heard a rumor of where he got it from, but won't share. Could be way off

I heard a story about this from a solid source. If what he told me is accurate someone has a bit of explaining to do.

[Vet70]

I also saw the post game comments and yes, he blamed the loss on penalties. I was thinking there must have been a huge differential in penalties and yardage. I pulled up the stats and Bison and EW each had 8 penalties and the yardage was 61 against the Bison and 60 against EW. Reminded of the South Dakota State game, we had 9 penalties for 70 yards and somehow won that game.

There is something that those penalty numbers aren't showing. EWU had 93 yards in plays wiped out in the first quarter and 104 for the game plus the penalties. I could have overlooked something but I didn't see losses for the Bison other than the penalty yards.

[DCinOK]

Great day to be a Bison...#7..glorious weather..game was nerve-wracking, but will remember much about it compared to our blowouts..rushing the field never gets old.. Came home and watched the dvr'd pregame show and thought they did a much better job as it was all about the FCS Champ game and not Monday night.

[SkiMerlin]

There is something that those penalty numbers aren't showing. EWU had 93 yards in plays wiped out in the first quarter and 104 for the game plus the penalties. I could have overlooked something but I didn't see losses for the Bison other than the penalty yards.

Wasn't there an offensive pass interference call where we lost some yardage?

[bisonaudit]

There is something that those penalty numbers aren't showing. EWU had 93 yards in plays wiped out in the first quarter and 104 for the game plus the penalties. I could have overlooked something but I didn't see losses for the Bison other than the penalty yards.

So their cheating was effective, except they got caught.

[Vet70]

Wasn't there an offensive pass interference call where we lost some yardage?

Good catch---6 yards.

[MAKBison]

Ewu’s defense put on one of, if not their best performances of the season yesterday. I thought the offense could bully them.

I think it could if we would have used more than 1/3rd of it.

[IndyBison]

We stayed at the Westin which happened to be where the EWU team stayed, so we had lots of EWU fans talk to us after the game. I’d say about half of them were insufferable, but even the ones that were decent brought up the officiating.I wish all these officiating experts would help us and join us. So many areas of the country are losing officials and not recruiting enough to replace them. Youth leagues are really struggling to find officials and high schools are having to move games to Thursday and Saturday to find enough officials to cover the games.

Once you get over the learning hump the fans and coaches abusing you doesn't bother you as much because you know they are probably wrong and it doesn't matter what they say. It becomes a craft you work at the continually be better and you become a part of a fraternity of people with a similar passion. And you get to be a key part of a great sport.

Anyone at any age can start but especially those on their early 20s should consider it. If you love it and put in your time you have a shot of making it to Division I or even the NFL. Please send me a PM if you or someone you know might be remotely interested.

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[CAS4127]

So their cheating was effective, except they got caught.

The biggest play called back (think it went for 50) in first half was for 5 players in the backfield—an alignment issue basically—and had no effect on the outcome of the play. There was another, similar call that went for 15-20, again, that had no effect on outcome of play.


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[Vet70]

The biggest play called back (think it went for 50) in first half was for 5 players in the backfield—an alignment issue basically—and had no effect on the outcome of the play. There was another, similar call that went for 15-20, again, that had no effect on outcome of play.


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I knew that, but I am ignoring him tonight. By the by, you still owe me an e-mail. :biggrin:

[HerdBot]

The biggest play called back (think it went for 50) in first half was for 5 players in the backfield—an alignment issue basically—and had no effect on the outcome of the play. There was another, similar call that went for 15-20, again, that had no effect on outcome of play.


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Is it possible having 5 in the backfield is the reason there was a blown coverage?

[BisManBison]

I wish all these officiating experts would help us and join us. So many areas of the country are losing officials and not recruiting enough to replace them. Youth leagues are really struggling to find officials and high schools are having to move games to Thursday and Saturday to find enough officials to cover the games.

Once you get over the learning hump the fans and coaches abusing you doesn't bother you as much because you know they are probably wrong and it doesn't matter what they say. It becomes a craft you work at the continually be better and you become a part of a fraternity of people with a similar passion. And you get to be a key part of a great sport.

Anyone at any age can start but especially those on their early 20s should consider it. If you love it and put in your time you have a shot of making it to Division I or even the NFL. Please send me a PM if you or someone you know might be remotely interested.

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I also wish that those that complain about officials would reflect internally. EWU was highly penalized all year, averaging 8 or 9 per game. Seems their coaches could have addressed that at some point during the year before it bit them in the ass.

[CAS4127]

Is it possible having 5 in the backfield is the reason there was a blown coverage?

I get where you’re coming from, but we just got beat, not tricked. Wasn’t blown coverage. Again, just got beat/outplayed/coached on those plays.


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[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

Indeed, EWU was undisciplined all season not just in the Natty. They were good enough to overcome it in most of their games.

[DORMIE]

Indy, could you explain the rule about the lateral on the faked field goal.
If his knee was down, why could he pass the ball? Maybe that's why he could?
Thanks for your expertise, I do golf rules.

[IBleedYellow]

Indy, could you explain the rule about the lateral on the faked field goal.
If his knee was down, why could he pass the ball? Maybe that's why he could?
Thanks for your expertise, I do golf rules.

There's a rule in college that allows the knee to be down. It was legit. Indy will pull up the actual rule :)

[Vet70]

Indy, could you explain the rule about the lateral on the faked field goal.
If his knee was down, why could he pass the ball? Maybe that's why he could?
Thanks for your expertise, I do golf rules.

It is simply an exception to the rule.

[Swaghook]

Indy, could you explain the rule about the lateral on the faked field goal.
If his knee was down, why could he pass the ball? Maybe that's why he could?
Thanks for your expertise, I do golf rules.
I think they said it was a legal play because the intent was to trick the Defense by going through the motions of a FG. I only wondered if the ball had touched the ground when he faked it and would that have counted as a downed ball.

[Swaghook]

I also wish that those that complain about officials would reflect internally. EWU was highly penalized all year, averaging 8 or 9 per game. Seems their coaches could have addressed that at some point during the year before it bit them in the ass.

Maybe the refs were on our side for this one. ;) j/k

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[Swaghook]

Found the rule: ARTICLE 3. A live ball becomes dead and an official shall sound his whistle or declare it dead:
[...]
b. When any part of the ball carrier’s body, except his hand or foot, touches the ground or when the ball carrier is tackled or otherwise falls and loses possession of the ball as he contacts the ground with any part of his body, except his hand or foot [Exception: The ball remains alive when an offensive player has simulated a kick or at the snap is in position to kick the ball held for a place kick by a teammate. The ball may be kicked, passed or advanced by rule]

[IndyBison]

Found the rule: ARTICLE 3. A live ball becomes dead and an official shall sound his whistle or declare it dead:
[...]
b. When any part of the ball carrier’s body, except his hand or foot, touches the ground or when the ball carrier is tackled or otherwise falls and loses possession of the ball as he contacts the ground with any part of his body, except his hand or foot [Exception: The ball remains alive when an offensive player has simulated a kick or at the snap is in position to kick the ball held for a place kick by a teammate. The ball may be kicked, passed or advanced by rule]There is the rule. This was a forward pass so if it had been dropped it would be a dead ball as an incomplete forward pass. Another version is for the holder to flip it behind his head to the kicker. If that is dropped it would still be a live ball that can be recovered and advanced by either team.

If any of you are high school coaches don't try this! The high school rule is different. The exception for the holder to have his knee on the ground still exists but he must rise before throwing it. If this happened in high school, the defense would get the ball first and 10 at the spot where the holder flipped the ball.

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[Bison4Life]

It was actually a start at the 20. The way EWU sliced and diced the Bison D on that drive it may not have made any difference if they started at the 5.

So why did Eastern get the ball at the 20? The holder was the 14 and I can’t remember in college does it go to the original line of scrimmage or where the holder is.

[Vet70]

So why did Eastern get the ball at the 20? The holder was the 14 and I can’t remember in college does it go to the original line of scrimmage or where the holder is.

I believe it always goes to the 20 if the try is inside of that yard line.

[IndyBison]

So why did Eastern get the ball at the 20? The holder was the 14 and I can’t remember in college does it go to the original line of scrimmage or where the holder is.If the ball is snapped inside the 20 B will next snap at the 20. If it's snapped outside the 20 the ball will be placed at the previous spot. Both assume the miss was not touched by B beyond the neutral zone.

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[Bison4Life]

If the ball is snapped inside the 20 B will next snap at the 20. If it's snapped outside the 20 the ball will be placed at the previous spot. Both assume the miss was not touched by B beyond the neutral zone.

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Basicly a touchback then

[IndyBison]

Basicly a touchback thenOnly if snapped inside the 20. Miss snapped at the 27 will next be snapped at the 27.

High school rule difference...ball snapped at the 35 and is short so it rolls dead or downed at the 3. Ball next snapped by B at the 3! A FG is essentially a punt that can score. Most missed FGs go into the end zone so they are touchbacks and next snapped at the 20.

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[89MTBISON]

Is the Barbecue Bowl curse completely debunked?

[tony]

Good catch---6 yards.

6 yards and a first down in their territory.

I was thinking about something kind of related today: You could make a pretty good (and long) highlight reel of all the times NDSU has had TDs called back in the last five years.

[scottietohottie]

I'm sure ewu will come up with some pretty nice runner up shirts

[Professor Chaos]

This is a pretty cool picture I thought.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190107/3a33279e6408543911e4af4224102838.jpg

[EC8CH]

The previous play ended at the right side of the field and hence, why the ball was placed on the right hash mark. If a play ends somewhere between the hash marks, that’s where the next play begins.

Due to how wide college football keeps its hash marks compared to the NFL, those short FGs are tougher when kicking from the hashes. If you stand by where the kick takes place and look at the angle of where the uprights are, it’s like trying a rugby kick. That’s why in college, some teams try to get the ball backed up five yards with a delay of game.

As far as the call of going for the FG or going for a first down, I was hoping they went for it which got me some dirty, “are you dumb” looks from those around me at the game. Either way was fine, but the soft, weak defense NDSU went into afterwards was what disappointed me, not the miss or not getting the first down.

Also, if you got a chance to go on the field afterwards, you got to feel how slick and soft the surface was. Maybe the new tarp they use needs to be off longer to dry the top soil a bit.

Lastly, you’re absolutely correct, Winning Championships never gets old!


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I meant NDSU should have run the ball to the left on third down to center the ball between the hashes for the FG attempt. Pretty standard practice when positioning for a FG attempt at close range. I think it was a poor play call not to in that situation.

[DCinOK]

This is a pretty cool picture I thought.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190107/3a33279e6408543911e4af4224102838.jpg

Wow...I was towards the front and had no idea the field was that full...amazing. I also felt about 20 degrees hotter on the field than in the shaded end zone where I'd been.

[Bison4Life]

Only if snapped inside the 20. Miss snapped at the 27 will next be snapped at the 27.

High school rule difference...ball snapped at the 35 and is short so it rolls dead or downed at the 3. Ball next snapped by B at the 3! A FG is essentially a punt that can score. Most missed FGs go into the end zone so they are touchbacks and next snapped at the 20.

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interesting....thanks for the info.

[BigDEXX]

Was he down by contact?

https://twitter.com/BryanTupa/status/1081704445195489280

[DCinOK]

https://twitter.com/NCAA_FCS

Some great videos of the Bison post-game locker room...

[#1BISONFAN ASHLEY]

Was he down by contact?

https://twitter.com/BryanTupa/status/1081704445195489280

I did the same thing back in '14, I'm glad no one was able to get a video of it.:rofl:

[garbageman]

I did the same thing back in '14, I'm glad no one was able to get a video of it.:rofl:

Did anyone see the pregame on espn news. Just wondering if Walker still picked the field?

[Christopher Moen]

Was he down by contact?

https://twitter.com/BryanTupa/status/1081704445195489280

Crack kills dude....get him a belt!

[Christopher Moen]

Did anyone see the pregame on espn news. Just wondering if Walker still picked the field?

I believe someone posted somewhere on Bisonville that Walker picked EWU to win.

[Swaghook]

Was he down by contact?

https://twitter.com/BryanTupa/status/1081704445195489280

Last year a drunk guy dancing around in row 1 fell over the rail during the game. Lucky for him he did not crack his head open on the concrete. Unlucky for him and those with him they escorted him out of the game.

[Bison bison]

Some drunk 20 year old did something to start bleeding lick a stuck pig at the Illinois State game. Blood was everywhere.

[Vet70]

I believe someone posted somewhere on Bisonville that Walker picked EWU to win.

No one would have to post it to figure that out. :rofl: