2018 Coach Staff Update

[MAKBison]

This is what we know as of today:

Matt Entz ------ Head Coach
https://gobison.com/news/2018/12/13/matt-entz-named-next-ndsu-head-football-coach.aspx

Randy Hedberg ----- Associate Head Coach/Passing Game Coordinator/QB Coach
https://gobison.com/news/2019/1/9/football-hedberg-promoted-to-associate-head-coach-roehl-to-offensive-coordinator.aspx)

Offense
Tyler Roehl ------ Offensive Coordinator/Tight Ends/Fullbacks Coach
https://gobison.com/news/2019/1/9/football-hedberg-promoted-to-associate-head-coach-roehl-to-offensive-coordinator.aspx

Aj-Blazek ------ Offensive Line Coach
https://247sports.com/college/rutgers/Article/AJ-Blazek-will-not-return-as-Rutgers-Football-offensive-line-coach-127568231

Noah Pauley ----- Wide Receivers Coach
https://umdbulldogs.com/coaches.aspx?rc=439&path=football

Dan Larson----- Running Backs Coach
https://gobison.com/news/2019/1/11/football-dan-larson-named-running-backs-coach-at-north-dakota-state.aspx

Defense
David Braun ---- Defensive Coordinator/ Safeties Coach
https://gobison.com/news/2019/1/10/entz-adds-four-to-ndsu-football-coaching-staff.aspx

Grant Olson ----- Linebackers Coach
https://www.inforum.com/sports/football/947843-Olson-to-return-to-NDSU-to-coach-Bison-linebackers

Nick Goeser ----- Tackles Coach/Special Teams Coordinator
https://gobison.com/news/2019/1/9/football-hedberg-promoted-to-associate-head-coach-roehl-to-offensive-coordinator.aspx

Buddha Williams ----- Defensive Ends Coach
https://gobison.com/news/2019/1/9/football-hedberg-promoted-to-associate-head-coach-roehl-to-offensive-coordinator.aspx

Kody Morgan ----- Cornerbacks/
https://gobison.com/news/2019/1/9/football-hedberg-promoted-to-associate-head-coach-roehl-to-offensive-coordinator.aspx


Operations
Ben Klinger ----- Offensive Quality Control
Daniel Goodman ----- Defensive Quality Control
Jake Otten ----- Director of Football Operations/Video Coordinator
Margie Trickle ---- Administrative Assistant

Still open ----- Recruiting Coordinator

Jim Kramer ------ Assistant Athletic Director of Athletic Performance - Football. (Per Bison Football Show)
https://gobison.com/news/2019/1/6/wa...ball-show.aspx

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Welcome
Grant Olson
https://gosycamores.com/coaches.aspx?rc=602&path=football

Aj-Blazek
https://scarletknights.com/staff.aspx?staff=274

David Braun
https://unipanthers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=601

Noah Pauley
https://umdbulldogs.com/coaches.aspx...&path=football

Dan Larson
https://www.blugolds.com/sports/fball/coaches/LarsonDan?view=bio

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He Gone:
Chris Klieman Source Offical KSU/NDSU announcment
Courtney Messingham Source Offical KSU announcment
Conor Riley Source Offical KSU announcment
Joe Klanderman Source Offical KSU announcment
Jason Ray Source Offical KSU announcment
Hank Jacobs Source Offical KSU announcmentl

[Honeybooboo]

just fill in the rest with Bisonville

[Bison 4 Life]

just fill in the rest with Bisonville

Who does the least on a day to day basis? I'll take that one.

[MAKBison]

just fill in the rest with Bisonville

here is my best Guess:

Matt Entz ---Head Coach
? ---Offensive Coordinator/Running Backs
Nick Goeser ---Defensive Coordinator/Defensive Tackles Coach
Tyler Roehl ---Running Game Coordinator/Tight Ends/Fullbacks Coach
Grant Olsen ---Linebackers Coach
Randy Hedberg ----Quarterbacks Coach
? ---Defensive Backs Coach
Kody Morgan ---Cornerbacks Coach
? ---Wide Receivers Coach
? ---Offensive Line
Buddha Williams ---Defensive Ends Coach
Ben Klinger ---Offensive Quality Control
Daniel Goodman ---Defensive Quality Control
Jake Otten ---Video Coordinator
? ---Director of Football Operations


This is my original and still best guess
The question marks will come from outside except Grant, I already pinned him in

[Honeybooboo]

here is my best Guess:

Matt Entz ---Head Coach
? ---Offensive Coordinator/Running Backs
Nick Goeser ---Defensive Coordinator/Defensive Tackles Coach
Tyler Roehl ---Running Game Coordinator/Tight Ends/Fullbacks Coach
Grant Olsen ---Linebackers Coach
Randy Hedberg ----Quarterbacks Coach
Joe Klanderman ---Defensive Backs Coach
Kody Morgan ---Cornerbacks Coach
? ---Wide Receivers Coach
? ---Offensive Line
Buddha Williams ---Defensive Ends Coach
Ben Klinger ---Offensive Quality Control
Daniel Goodman ---Defensive Quality Control
Jake Otten ---Video Coordinator
? ---Director of Football Operations

This would be a best case scenario IMO

[Bison 4 Life]

I see RJ on the sidelines, is he a GA right now? That kid could run routes, I'd let him coach WRs.

[MAKBison]

This would be a best case scenario IMO

Based on the best information available that is out in the public domain.

[HerdBot]

here is my best Guess:

Matt Entz ---Head Coach
? ---Offensive Coordinator/Running Backs
Nick Goeser ---Defensive Coordinator/Defensive Tackles Coach
Tyler Roehl ---Running Game Coordinator/Tight Ends/Fullbacks Coach
Grant Olsen ---Linebackers Coach
Randy Hedberg ----Quarterbacks Coach
Joe Klanderman ---Defensive Backs Coach
Kody Morgan ---Cornerbacks Coach
? ---Wide Receivers Coach
? ---Offensive Line
Buddha Williams ---Defensive Ends Coach
Ben Klinger ---Offensive Quality Control
Daniel Goodman ---Defensive Quality Control
Jake Otten ---Video Coordinator
? ---Director of Football Operations

Wonder if Randy Hedberg would be interested in being an Offensive Coordinator? Vigen coached QB and was the OC? Randy certainly has the experience. Our young QBs could use him

[Professor Chaos]

This would be a best case scenario IMO
I thought that too until the rumors that they may retain Messingham surfaced. I don't know if there's any basis behind it but if they retain Entz as head coach, Messingham as OC, and Kramer I hate to downplay the significance of the rest of the staff but just those 3 would be a home run IMO no matter who else stayed or went.

[MAKBison]

I thought that too until the rumors that they may retain Messingham surfaced. I don't know if there's any basis behind it but if they retain Entz as head coach, Messingham as OC, and Kramer I hate to downplay the significance of the rest of the staff but just those 3 would be a home run IMO no matter who else stayed or went.

Home run for sure, but our recruiting coordinator needs to be solid for the grand slam.

I would love to pencil Mess in, but the to many conflicting reports. If anyone wants to pm why I should Go for it :-)

[HerdBot]

Klanderman would be a solid candidate for defensive Coordinator too and he spent years as one in D2 Mankato

[MAKBison]

Klanderman would be a solid candidate for defensive Coordinator too and he spent years as one in D2 Mankato

It was a coin flip between the two for me

[Bison 4 Life]

Dream scenario. Keeping Mess and Hedberg.

They don't offer a ton of recruiting value for K State and there are a few offensive assistants that seem to be on the good side down there.

[bajadanny]

I thought that too until the rumors that they may retain Messingham surfaced. I don't know if there's any basis behind it but if they retain Entz as head coach, Messingham as OC, and Kramer I hate to downplay the significance of the rest of the staff but just those 3 would be a home run IMO no matter who else stayed or went.

Hedberg would be great to have
Hope he doesn’t want to move out of ND

[EC8CH]

Klanderman would be a solid candidate for defensive Coordinator too and he spent years as one in D2 Mankato

Agree Klanderman to DC seems like a good move.

[NDSU92]

just fill in the rest with Bisonville

It’s 2018, surely we could employ a ‘Twitch plays Pokemon’ setup where for the first 10 seconds after each play BV members vote to select the next play from the playbook.

[Vet70]

It’s 2018, surely we could employ a ‘Twitch plays Pokemon’ setup where for the first 10 seconds after each play BV members vote to select the next play from the playbook.

Many moons ago at one small school in Ohio, they tried this. The problem was the QB got worn out chucking the pigskin downfield.

[BisonTeacher]

I see RJ on the sidelines, is he a GA right now? That kid could run routes, I'd let him coach WRs.

Not saying he is or isnt...I have no idea.

Sometimes the best athletes dont always make the best coaches. Trying to teach others what they were gifted with isnt always easy. But Sometimes its those who had to struggle to learn and get good at it that are the best coaches.

Just my Friday morning 2 cents from the Education/coaching field.

[thunderingherd]

Riley would be a big loss.

[Bison 4 Life]

Not saying he is or isnt...I have no idea.

Sometimes the best athletes dont always make the best coaches. Trying to teach others what they were gifted with isnt always easy. But Sometimes its those who had to struggle to learn and get good at it that are the best coaches.

Just my Friday morning 2 cents from the Education/coaching field.

Yeah. i would agree but he seems like he's trying to do something with coaching since he's still there. Just figured his technique was so good, that might translate.

[Professor Chaos]

Yeah. i would agree but he seems like he's trying to do something with coaching since he's still there. Just figured his technique was so good, that might translate.
I'm guessing he didn't have an official title with the team. He didn't redshirt so it's likely that he didn't graduate yet last spring (he might be graduating today actually). I guess if anything he would be considered a student manager maybe?

[dryash83]

PLEASE don't take Coach Kramer.

[Bison 4 Life]

I'm guessing he didn't have an official title with the team. He didn't redshirt so it's likely that he didn't graduate yet last spring (he might be graduating today actually). I guess if anything he would be considered a student manager maybe?

I think that what what Grant did in 2014 or so.

[Bison20]

I hope we can keep atleast one of mess or riley. I wouldn't mind see goeser have a chance at DC either. Just really excited entz got the hc job

[noryan34]

I'm guessing he didn't have an official title with the team. He didn't redshirt so it's likely that he didn't graduate yet last spring (he might be graduating today actually). I guess if anything he would be considered a student manager maybe?

You nailed it. Graduating today.

https://twitter.com/NDSUfootball/status/1073642925211480065

[bruinbison]

Eric Peterson’s article today describes Urzendowski as “an undergraduate student assistant coach for the Bison”.

[Bison 4 Life]

Eric Peterson’s article today describes Urzendowski as “an undergraduate student assistant coach for the Bison”.

I hope he sticks around.

[bisonfanette]

Yeah. i would agree but he seems like he's trying to do something with coaching since he's still there. Just figured his technique was so good, that might translate.

He graduated today. (Friday)

[bruinbison]

I hope we can keep atleast one of mess or riley. I wouldn't mind see goeser have a chance at DC either. Just really excited entz got the hc job

I also hope NDSU can keep the Sign Lady!
She has really upped her game here in the playoffs - new innovative strategies and all!
But if Coach Klieman and KState needs her, well, we can all understand the allure of Big-Time FBS football......

[Bison20]

So when do we find out which coaches are leaving? I would think this weekend we should have an idea of who's gone recruiting.

[Professor Chaos]

So when do we find out which coaches are leaving? I would think this weekend we should have an idea of who's gone recruiting.
Entz's introductory press conference is on Monday. Hopefully we find out something then if not sooner.

[BadlandsBison]

Entz's introductory press conference is on Monday. Hopefully we find out something then if not sooner.

Just a hunch, I think the k state staff will be settled more into midweek after the recruiting dead period starts

[Bisonwinagn]

Agree I don't think there will be many changes until after signing day as coaches are too busy recruiting.

[Bisonator98]

Agree I don't think there will be many changes until after signing day as coaches are too busy recruiting.

Non contact period starts Monday so that's when coaches will fill out their staffs.

[Bison20]

Entz's introductory press conference is on Monday. Hopefully we find out something then if not sooner.

I would assume any coaches leaving for sure would be recruiting for ksu this weekend and not ndsu. That's y I thought we might get an idea sometime before monday

[bri-dog]

2011BisonAlumni, sic'em! :)

[HerdBot]

I would assume any coaches leaving for sure would be recruiting for ksu this weekend and not ndsu. That's y I thought we might get an idea sometime before monday

If you haven't signed a new contract, that is very unethical

[Jay]

Blake Seiler (DC/LB) is out recruiting with Klieman today. He’ll be on the staff. Which makes sense as their defense wasn’t terrible and Entz was promoted.

[wisco4]

I would assume any coaches leaving for sure would be recruiting for ksu this weekend and not ndsu. That's y I thought we might get an idea sometime before monday

Coaches Messingham, Klanderman, Ray, Williams and Morgan were with NDSU recruits today. There may have been additional coaches with but those guys a saw for sure.

[GOBISON123]

All this chatter on WYO board makes me feel how great it would be if Coach Mess stayed. I dont think that would happen. Coach Klieman is certainly taking OC Mess with him.

https://wyonation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=18316

[Professor Chaos]

Coaches Messingham, Klanderman, Ray, Williams and Morgan were with NDSU recruits today. There may have been additional coaches with but those guys a saw for sure.
Messingham is huge! Klanderman to DC possibly? I would think either he or Goeser would be going to K-State if they didn't get the DC gig here. I'd love to retain Riley but if Mess is staying on as OC you'd think Riley would be going with Klieman. Hedberg is another question mark still. Very surprised Ray is staying with his Oklahoma roots and ties.

Roehl was tweeting out about future Bison being at the game last Friday after Klieman had been announced as the new K-State coach so I would guess it's pretty likely that he's staying also.

[reformedUNDfan]

I think everyone better prepare themselves for the likelyhood that for at least a year NDSU will be retaining all but a handful of its coaches

[23Bison]

Yeah I think once Klieman has a season under his belt I wouldn’t be shocked to start seeing some coaches trickle into his system. Although he does have contacts with guys like Cain at Fresno State, Pollini at Youngstown, Austin maybe a possibility but doubt he’ll leave the Pats. Lots of good coaches out there with ties to Klieman so who knows what guys he’ll want to bring in.

[2011BisonAlumni]

2011BisonAlumni, sic'em! :)

I’m out dude. It’s going to be 50 here again tomorrow, and I’ll be fly fishing.

[56BISON73]

I’m out dude. It’s going to be 50 here again tomorrow, and I’ll be fly fishing.

Where you going to be fly fishing at this time of the year???

[2011BisonAlumni]

Where you going to be fly fishing at this time of the year???

Bighorn River

Love fishing it in the winter. Usually parlay it into a cast and blast and pheasant hunt the islands

[MAKBison]

Ross just tweeted out that he is hearing 3 coached plus Hank heading to KSU

[SafeTeeJ]

Bighorn River

Love fishing it in the winter. Usually parlay it into a cast and blast and pheasant hunt the islands

Now we are talking! Cast and blast on the Bighorn sounds awesome!!
I assume it will be all nymph fishing, maybe a late midge hatch? I’ve had good luck with small San Juan worm or small red glitter worm, Ray Charles, scuds, etc(#18 or so). You have your own drift boat?
Good luck! Send me a report

[2011BisonAlumni]

Ross just tweeted out that he is hearing 3 coached plus Hank heading to KSU

Hearing Kramer is one of them and he got an offer that was going to put another zero on the end of his paycheck.

[2011BisonAlumni]

Now we are talking! Cast and blast on the Bighorn sounds awesome!!
I assume it will be all nymph fishing, maybe a late midge hatch? I’ve had good luck with small San Juan worm or small red glitter worm, Ray Charles, scuds, etc(#18 or so). You have your own drift boat?
Good luck! Send me a report

PM sent.....

[CAS4127]

Hearing Kramer is one of them and he got an offer that was going to put another zero on the end of his paycheck.

Good! That means Mess or Riley is staying.

Complete troll job I realize, but whatever ....


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[2011BisonAlumni]

Good! That means Mess or Riley is staying.

Complete troll job I realize, but whatever ....


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Me? Not trolling, I am being serious

[MAKBison]

Hearing Kramer is one of them and he got an offer that was going to put another zero on the end of his paycheck.

Never really thought of him as a Fb coach per se, but makes sense I suppose.

[noryan34]

Hearing Kramer is one of them and he got an offer that was going to put another zero on the end of his paycheck.

Well Kstate pays their current S&C $350,000.... what’s Kramer at now then? 60-70k?

[Bison 4 Life]

So they're getting rid of Chris Dawson?

[HerdBot]

Hearing Kramer is one of them and he got an offer that was going to put another zero on the end of his paycheck.


Good! That means Mess or Riley is staying.

Complete troll job I realize, but whatever ....


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To put strength and conditioning pay into perspective, the highest paid in the country is the guy from Iowa. $725,000. Most of the Big 12 will pay in the 300-400 range and K State already has a great guy who has been there 20 years.

Also what Kramer does is different for a team like us that redshirts and adds tons weight to a kid over 3 years. K State already recruits athletes who are physically big enough and focus on speed and agility.

So putting an extra zero on Kramers salary seems like a major exaggeration because they cant afford to pay him a million. But he could have been offered

[ndsubison1]

Ever since Alumni saw those tweets he thinks he's some insider.

[2011BisonAlumni]

Ever since Alumni saw those tweets he thinks he's some insider.

Like I said I just heard this. I’m not an insider.

Not football S&C but director of K State S&C across all athletics.

[2011BisonAlumni]

To put strength and conditioning pay into perspective, the highest paid in the country is the guy from Iowa. $725,000. Most of the Big 12 will pay in the 300-400 range and K State already has a great guy who has been there 20 years.

Also what Kramer does is different for a team like us that redshirts and adds tons weight to a kid over 3 years. K State already recruits athletes who are physically big enough and focus on speed and agility.

So putting an extra zero on Kramers salary seems like a major exaggeration because they cant afford to pay him a million. But he could have been offered

I was told S&C coordinator across all athletics.

Kansas State is very much a developmental program like NDSU.

[Bison 4 Life]

So to believe this, you would have to believe that one of the most highly regarded S&C coaches in the Big 12 is out the door, at the behest of the new football coach.

[Vet70]

I was told S&C coordinator across all athletics.

Kansas State is very much a developmental program like NDSU.

Where or who did you hear this from?

[Bison 4 Life]

Where or who did you hear this from?
https://www.standupcomedyclinic.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Stuart-Smalley-1-300x169.jpg

[HerdBot]

I was told S&C coordinator across all athletics.

Kansas State is very much a developmental program like NDSU.

I cant even find that position at K State. You have the top dog job and director of performance Olympic athletics. That's the job Jason Miller has here

[GOBISON123]

Hearing Kramer is one of them and he got an offer that was going to put another zero on the end of his paycheck.

Nope Kramer is not going anywhere. He has a family situation that will keep in in Fargo for a long time.

[2011BisonAlumni]

Where or who did you hear this from?

Former player he is close to.

He could have been pulling my leg though.

Also heading Tyler Roehl is going. Now that would surprise me, but honestly it might be good if Tyler ever had head coaching aspirations at NDSU.

[Hammersmith]

I will say this about the Jim Kramer/Chris Dawson debate, if you were looking to hire a S&C coach based on education, which would you hire:

Bachelors in Business Management
MBA

or

Bachelors in Physical Education
Masters in Exercise Science

Not saying those are the only qualifications, but still...

[Bison 4 Life]

I will say this about the Jim Kramer/Chris Dawson debate, if you were looking to hire a S&C coach based on education, which would you hire:

Bachelors in Business Management
MBA

or

Bachelors in Physical Education
Masters in Exercise Science

Not saying those are the only qualifications, but still...

Cool, lets just say we couldn't get Chris Dawson to come to Fargo. He'll get snapped up by a P5 program the minute he hits the market.

[EC8CH]

Dom predicts Mess, Riley, Klanderman, and Ray go with Klieman.

Says Kramer status "unknown".

Dunn doubtful for championship per source.

Lots of info on chat tonight.

[Professor Chaos]

Dom predicts Mess, Riley, Klanderman, and Ray go with Klieman.

Says Kramer status "unknown".
I'd be good with that (minus the Kramer part). I'd assume that means Riley to OC and Goeser to DC. Retain Hedberg, Roehl, Williams, and Morgan.

[Bison 4 Life]

I'd be good with that (minus the Kramer part). I'd assume that means Riley to OC and Goeser to DC. Retain Hedberg, Roehl, Williams, and Morgan.

Get Napoli from SEMO

[Vet70]

Dom predicts Mess, Riley, Klanderman, and Ray go with Klieman.

Says Kramer status "unknown".

Dunn doubtful for championship per source.

Lots of info on chat tonight.

https://i.imgur.com/cyamGmz.gif

[CAS4127]

I'd be good with that (minus the Kramer part). I'd assume that means Riley to OC and Goeser to DC. Retain Hedberg, Roehl, Williams, and Morgan.

Umm, he said Riley to go with Klieman, no?


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[StL Bison Fan]

https://i.imgur.com/cyamGmz.gif

Gotta be old to get this.
I listen to this on classic radio xm

[Professor Chaos]

Umm, he said Riley to go with Klieman, no?


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Doh! You're right. Well I guess Hedberg at OC isn't a bad option either. Be interesting to see whether Dom is right and Klieman takes 4 assistants with him or if Ross Uglem is right and it's only 3. In either case that would pretty darn good to retain 6 or 7 assistants (including Entz).

Although as some have mentioned before if Klieman has openings on his staff in the next few years he definitely could target some of the remaining assistants from his former staff still at NDSU.

[AKBison]

Doh! You're right. Well I guess Hedberg at OC isn't a bad option either. Be interesting to see whether Dom is right and Klieman takes 4 assistants with him or if Ross Uglem is right and it's only 3. In either case that would pretty darn good to retain 6 or 7 assistants (including Entz).

Although as some have mentioned before if Klieman has openings on his staff in the next few years he definitely could target some of the remaining assistants from his former staff still at NDSU.

Hedberg is developing a reputation here as the quarterback whisperer and we will need him more than ever starting in February when the guys come back. I say pay him like an OC and let him keep his current role and responsibilities with the team. If Riley wants to go with Kli then maybe we should look outside the program for a guy. With that said, I wouldn't mind giving TR a crack at it, especially with Hedberg on staff. The most important hire is DC and we need the best possible candidate for that role.

[CAS4127]

Hedberg is developing a reputation here as the quarterback whisperer and we will need him more than ever starting in February when the guys come back. I say pay him like an OC and let him keep his current role and responsibilities with the team. If Riley wants to go with Kli then maybe we should look outside the program for a guy. With that said, I wouldn't mind giving TR a crack at it, especially with Hedberg on staff. The most important hire is DC and we need the best possible candidate for that role.

D will be fine under Entz. We need someone who can keep this O going/maturing.


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[Hammersmith]

Cool, lets just say we couldn't get Chris Dawson to come to Fargo. He'll get snapped up by a P5 program the minute he hits the market.

Yeah, I admit that was a super simplistic way of looking at it, but I was still surprised when I saw Dawson's bio page. In a field that should be always pushing into new science, I would expect a top practitioner to have advanced degrees in it. Of course it's possible that Dawson has attended innumerable conferences and studied all the latest literature, but S&C seems to be a field where the tendency is to teach others to do things just because that's the way you were taught.

I've gotten the feeling that Kramer and the NDSU S&C program(at least the football side of it) don't do that. In comparison to someone close to home, I've seen geauxsioux/thebigund talk about how great the UND FB S&C program is, but that program seems to be out of date based on the results on the field(rate of injuries and lack of strength/endurance development). But GS/TBUND is adamant about it and I wonder if it's only because he was shaped by that program, so it must be the best way. (That wasn't a slam, btw, just pointing out that we all have blind spots in areas where we were shaped.)

I will say that looking at the careers of both coaches as well as the results on the field, I would take Kramer over Dawson. And also that we need to pay Kramer a whole lot more and expand the S&C staff so that we can have more specialized trainers for different sports/genders and create an NDSU S&C culture that's not built solely around a single coach. NDSU has 4 S&C coaches, K-State has 11.

Here's what I mean about the difference in careers between Kramer and Dawson. Kramer was interested in training/conditioning from the beginning. A bachelors in PhyEd from UW-La Crosse was immediately followed by a masters in exercise science at App St where he also worked as a S&C grad assistant. He then goes to Georgia Tech for five years as a player development coach. After GT, he creates the S&C program at Northern Iowa(earning a national S&C coach of the year honor in the process) before spending a year and a half at the US Olympic Training Center helping to develop the Performance Enhancement Teams before coming to NDSU. This feels like a guy always on the cutting edge of things.

By contrast, Dawson started as a football player. He got his business bachelors while playing for Oklahoma. While getting his MBA from Oklahoma, he worked as a grad assistant and then became a S&C assistant coach there. After five years at Oklahoma, he spent two months interning with the Dallas Cowboys, five months as team administrator of the XFL LV Outlaws, two years at Minnesota as head strength coach, then six years at Kansas doing the same, all before taking his current job at K-State. I just don't see any outside-the-box work on that resume, and Minnesota and Kansas aren't exactly known for putting exceptionally conditioned teams on the field.

Now this is just a cursory look at their careers without knowing what other work they've done to stay on top of the science of S&C, but I don't see anything that would make me want Dawson over Kramer. And they're almost the same age, so it's not like one has a decade or more experience than the other. On paper it looks like the main reason they are in such different places today is just due to Dawson playing at Oklahoma and getting those early contacts, while Kramer started at a DIII and had to work his way up on his own.

But that's all just an outsider's look.

[Bison bison]

Got confirmation on one coach going to kstate. Assume the lid is officially off.

[MAKBison]

Got confirmation on one coach going to kstate. Assume the lid is officially off.

And???????????

[stevdock]

If Kramer does decide to go with (I personally don't think he will), do we have anyone who has worked under Kramer who can keep the truck rolling here?

This might be the biggest position to fill outside of head coach.

[Jay]

If Kramer does decide to go with (I personally don't think he will), do we have anyone who has worked under Kramer who can keep the truck rolling here?

This might be the biggest position to fill outside of head coach.

Ryan Napoli, currently at SEMO.

[Bison 4 Life]

Ryan Napoli, currently at SEMO.

Yep, he'll do.

https://www.bisonillustrated.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Ryan-Napoli.jpg

[CalBison97]

Got confirmation on one coach going to kstate. Assume the lid is officially off.

Bisonville turning into Facebook. What’s the purpose of a post like this?

[Bison bison]

That we should know by noon tomorrow who's leaving.

[EC8CH]

If Mess, and Riley are both gone, where does Entz go to build up the offensive staff? Seems like there would need to be some new blood pumped into the system.

Agree with CAS this will be biggest hire considering offense will be replacing a lot next year.

[56BISON73]

If Mess, and Riley are both gone, where does Entz go to build up the offensive staff? Seems like there would need to be some new blood pumped into the system.

Agree with CAS this will be biggest hire considering offense will be replacing a lot next year.

You can bet there are a bunch of coaches who have thrown their hats in the ring. Not to mention all of the coaches hes knows from being in the profession for so long.

[B. b. bison]

Yep, he'll do.


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[EC8CH]

You can bet there are a bunch of coaches who have thrown their hats in the ring. Not to mention all of the coaches hes knows from being in the profession for so long.

Seems like so far the coaching transition has been as predictable as possible. Will be interesting to see if there are any surprises with the possible replacement hires. Hopefully good surprises.

[BisonTeacher]

5 pages and no updates. I love bisonville.

[Vet70]

Bisonville turning into Facebook. What’s the purpose of a post like this?

What is the purpose of all of the posts that are pure speculation? :rofl:

[Jay]

K-state 247 ($) Projecting Klieman's Staff:

https://247sports.com/college/kansas-state/LongFormArticle/Chris-Klieman-coach-Kansas-State-coaching-staff-projection-analysis-126433921/#126433921_1

[bruinbison]

K-state 247 ($) Projecting Klieman's Staff:

https://247sports.com/college/kansas-state/LongFormArticle/Chris-Klieman-coach-Kansas-State-coaching-staff-projection-analysis-126433921/#126433921_1

Was just going to post on 247’s projections - so will only say there is one surprise guesstimate by 247 at LB Coach - and his wife is a better athlete than he is :)

[Bison 4 Life]

Was just going to post on 247’s projections - so will only say there is one surprise guesstimate by 247 at LB Coach - and his wife is a better athlete than he is :)

That's been the worst kept secret this whole process.

[Bison20]

That's been the worst kept secret this whole process.

So who are they thinking is leaving? You have to subscribe to read it.

[tolnabison]

So who are they thinking is leaving? You have to subscribe to read it.

Coach Riley and Coach Klanderman. Along with Hank Jacobs, which we already knew.

Also had them hiring Grant Olson to coach LBs and former Bison coach/current Fresno St D-Tackle Coach Jamar Cain.

[Bison 4 Life]

So who are they thinking is leaving? You have to subscribe to read it.

I was talking about Grant Olson coming back to coach the LB's or something. That was in the mix even before Entz got named.

No, I'm not paying for content. I never do.

[Professor Chaos]

I was talking about Grant Olson coming back to coach the LB's or something. That was in the mix even before Entz got named.

No, I'm not paying for content. I never do.
Their projection wasn't that Grant Olson would be going to NDSU to coach LBs. Think bigger...

[IndyBison]

Their projection wasn't that Grant Olson would be going to NDSU to coach LBs. Think bigger...

OL and DL are bigger than LBs generally.

:rimshot::rimshot::bow:

Sorry...couldn't resist. I got to meet Grant a couple times at ISU scrimmages. I wish him the best of luck wherever he goes.

[Bison 4 Life]

Their projection wasn't that Grant Olson would be going to NDSU to coach LBs. Think bigger...

That's why I said or something.

[ndsubison1]

That's been the worst kept secret this whole process.

Didn't see any talk about it on here

[Bison 4 Life]

Didn't see any talk about it on here

Literally mentioned on the 3rd post of this thread. Also, extensively on the CK and ME threads.

[Mr. Burgundy]

I feel like Grant Olson is going to one of the spots, and I have no idea if the LB position coach is available at KSU or not, but it is here. I feel like this will happen quickly.

If it is true that we lose Riley and Klanderman.....that would mean we keep Messingham (which would SHOCK ME), Goesser, Buddha, Jay Ray, Tyler and Randy Hedberg...... and Entz would be in a great position. I am hoping to keep either Klanderman or Goesser and have them at DC. Both are very deserving. Again, I would be absolutely shocked if Mess doesn't go in some capacity to KSU. Things have to happen quickly. I wish this wasn't signing day week, as things are crazy. So much on the plate of both head coaches.

I really think Tyler ends up the OC, with Randy in his hip pocket. THey are a great team already. Riley is bigtime and everyone knows that. I am interested in who we fill the O Line coach with. I want SOME new blood on the staff. Grant would be great at LB coach...but some new blood is great...and CK did an amazing job bringing in new blood that fit. Messingham, Jamar Cain, Jay Ray, etc. An amazing job of replacing coaches after we lost some over the years.

[Bison 4 Life]

I feel like Grant Olson is going to one of the spots, and I have no idea if the LB position coach is available at KSU or not, but it is here. I feel like this will happen quickly.

If it is true that we lose Riley and Klanderman.....that would mean we keep Messingham (which would SHOCK ME), Goesser, Buddha, Jay Ray, Tyler and Randy Hedberg...... and Entz would be in a great position. I am hoping to keep either Klanderman or Goesser and have them at DC. Both are very deserving. Again, I would be absolutely shocked if Mess doesn't go in some capacity to KSU. Things have to happen quickly. I wish this wasn't signing day week, as things are crazy. So much on the plate of both head coaches.

I really think Tyler ends up the OC, with Randy in his hip pocket. THey are a great team already. Riley is bigtime and everyone knows that. I am interested in who we fill the O Line coach with. I want SOME new blood on the staff. Grant would be great at LB coach...but some new blood is great...and CK did an amazing job bringing in new blood that fit. Messingham, Jamar Cain, Jay Ray, etc. An amazing job of replacing coaches after we lost some over the years.

Keeping Hedberg would mitigate any misgivings that can be had for Tyler's relative inexperience. I like that combination.

[Winning is Gr8]

i think Mess stays for 1-2 years to help continuity (I think CK wants to Help Entz as much as he can while bring some assistance that can help teach right away) This also gives time for CK to see who on the KSU staff is good and who can go and when an opening happens he will bring Mess (next year or the year after) . Then Tyler becomes OC. This is great news for NDSU as with a new QB next year having Mess, Tyler and Randy all there will definitely be good.

A new OL coach now isn't the worst thing for us as we have experience and the new coach can hopefully mesh and continue the success.

[ndsubison1]

Literally mentioned on the 3rd post of this thread. Also, extensively on the CK and ME threads.

Not of Grant to KSU.

[Bison 4 Life]

Not of Grant to KSU.

So I learned a few minutes ago. I was talking about Grand to NDSU. see my sig.

[BadlandsBison]

Goeser, Klanderman, Mess, Riley

We need to keep at least ONE of those 4 or things might get a little shaky...

[Bison 4 Life]

Goeser, Klanderman, Mess, Riley

We need to keep at least ONE of those 4 or things might get a little shaky...

Not worried. This is a premier destination for coaches with a top 5% salary expectation.

[1998braves64]

I'd say Roehl might be a good candidate to leave and experience another location, and actually might help him if option ever opens up for him to come back and be a HC here. But he might have to fight GO for that position as they're about on the same timeline.

Any word on GO coming back to NDSU? Maybe they wait until he gets DC at ISUb (or somewhere else?) to lure him home?

Edit: Sorry was still on page 2 or 3. :facepalm:

[HerdBot]

I feel like Grant Olson is going to one of the spots, and I have no idea if the LB position coach is available at KSU or not, but it is here. I feel like this will happen quickly.

If it is true that we lose Riley and Klanderman.....that would mean we keep Messingham (which would SHOCK ME), Goesser, Buddha, Jay Ray, Tyler and Randy Hedberg...... and Entz would be in a great position. I am hoping to keep either Klanderman or Goesser and have them at DC. Both are very deserving. Again, I would be absolutely shocked if Mess doesn't go in some capacity to KSU. Things have to happen quickly. I wish this wasn't signing day week, as things are crazy. So much on the plate of both head coaches.

I really think Tyler ends up the OC, with Randy in his hip pocket. THey are a great team already. Riley is bigtime and everyone knows that. I am interested in who we fill the O Line coach with. I want SOME new blood on the staff. Grant would be great at LB coach...but some new blood is great...and CK did an amazing job bringing in new blood that fit. Messingham, Jamar Cain, Jay Ray, etc. An amazing job of replacing coaches after we lost some over the years.

Jamar Cain was a DC at Wyoming under Dave Christensen. Hes a fan favorite here too

[mtoutfitter]

Jamar Cain was a DC at Wyoming under Dave Christensen. Hes a fan favorite here too

Wasn't he also Special Teams coach here....seem to remember some grumbling about maybe not doing a very good job at that....could be wrong tho.

[BisonLaw]

Roehl, Mess, Goeser, and Hedberg present for Entz press conference today if that means anything.

[BadlandsBison]

Roehl, Mess, Goeser, and Hedberg present for Entz press conference today if that means anything.

Entz just said they are staying

[Bison 4 Life]

Entz just said they are staying

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o72EUhWnSSfsghAbe/giphy.gif

[HerdBot]

He didn't say those 4 coaches are staying, he said as of now, the only open position is Defensive Coordinator. Obviously that is a blanket statement

[THEsocalledfan]

Roehl, Mess, Goeser, and Hedberg present for Entz press conference today if that means anything.

So, goeser DC?

[Bisonator98]

Wasn't he also Special Teams coach here....seem to remember some grumbling about maybe not doing a very good job at that....could be wrong tho.

No that was Atif.

[Bisonator98]

Entz just said they are staying

Not exactly.

[Bison 4 Life]

He didn't say those 4 coaches are staying, he said as of now, the only open position is Defensive Coordinator. Obviously that is a blanket statement

When asked about his assistants and the timeline, he said "Right now, they're all standing in the back of the room so the timeline is now" So it seems at least those coaches in attendance are in.

[mtoutfitter]

No that was Atif.

Thank You for the correction.

[EC8CH]

Kolpack: "Assistants Matt, Timeline?"

Entz: "Well right now they're all standing in the back of the room, so the timeline is now."

[BadlandsBison]

Like Bot said, Entz left some ambiguity on staff openings. I would interpret as they are now waiting on Klieman.

IMHO its safe to assume those coaches in the room are staying.

[EC8CH]

"Do you have any idea how many openings there might be on your staff from Chris moving on or are you still working through that"

"At this time the only opening I know of is the one I left"

[THEsocalledfan]

"Do you have any idea how many openings there might be on your staff from Chris moving on or are you still working through that"

"At this time the only opening I know of is the one I left"

Very clever. And clearly a canned answer.

[Rixen]

Know that we will lose some talented coaches but I will echo the others. I will be THRILLED if Mess stays. I would probably rank Mess as my #1 or #2 priority just because Entz is a defensive minded coach and he could mentor or work closely with a new DC. Keeping our OC would alleviate a lot of anxiety for me as he did an excellent job.

Really hope we get some clarity soon though. Hoping for Mess, Goeser, Roehl, Hedberg and Kramer. To be clear for all the coaches reading this, thanks for everything and we will gladly keep whoever wants to stay!

[HerdBot]

Know that we will lose some talented coaches but I will echo the others. I will be THRILLED if Mess stays. I would probably rank Mess as my #1 or #2 priority just because Entz is a defensive minded coach and he could mentor or work closely with a new DC. Keeping our OC would alleviate a lot of anxiety for me as he did an excellent job.

Really hope we get some clarity soon though. Hoping for Mess, Goeser, Roehl, Hedberg and Kramer. To be clear for all the coaches reading this, thanks for everything and we will gladly keep whoever wants to stay!

Mess is #1 because it keeps all the systems in place and gives other coaches some time to get comfortable in their new roles. Everyone knows Mess will be on a short list for K State

[gunner56]

I really wish someone could dig up some positive insider info on Kramer.

[HerdBot]

I really wish someone could dig up some positive insider info on Kramer.

On Twitter, he followed a barber in Mississippi who is friends with an insurance agent in Kansas City who is an alumni of K State whose 3rd cousin's ex girlfriend knew someone who worked in the athletic department

[thunderingherd]

I wonder if the assistants that were NOT at the press conference have already been locked in at KSU? And keeping everything under wraps for NDSU and KSU coaching moves until after this signing date. CK locking in his recruits and ME locking in his without stirring the pot?

[HerdBot]

I wonder if the assistants that were NOT at the press conference have already been locked in at KSU? And keeping everything under wraps for NDSU and KSU coaching moves until after this signing date. CK locking in his recruits and ME locking in his without stirring the pot?

I think it's going to be just like most of us have predicted.

[Bisonwinagn]

I wonder if the assistants that were NOT at the press conference have already been locked in at KSU? And keeping everything under wraps for NDSU and KSU coaching moves until after this signing date. CK locking in his recruits and ME locking in his without stirring the pot?

This is what I've been saying for the last several days. Plus with recruiting over the weekend today is the first day Klieman had a chance to interview anyone.

[KC Bison]

What do take from the N. Texas coach that didn't come because he wanted to bring his whole staff with him? Does that mean that Chris will be able to only bring the positions that are available, given the current staff that is already in place?

[BadlandsBison]

What do take from the N. Texas coach that didn't come because he wanted to bring his whole staff with him? Does that mean that Chris will be able to only bring the positions that are available, given the current staff that is already in place?

K-state guys are saying that coordinators are staying in place for now along with most of the defensive staff. Offensive staff will see some changes.

[BisonNation11]

What do take from the N. Texas coach that didn't come because he wanted to bring his whole staff with him? Does that mean that Chris will be able to only bring the positions that are available, given the current staff that is already in place?

Gene said all positions are open. Chris is welcome to bring whomever he likes. Gene simply stated that all of the previous coaches are available to remain on staff/interview with Chris. So some will stay with KSU, some won't. Who knows, maybe he finds roles for everyone. I'm thinking the N. Texas guy didn't see KState as a destination job. More of a stepping stone and wanted an easy way out when they time came. Gene didn't want that.

[NDSU1980]

Maybe I missed it, and I humbly apologize if I did, but WHAT ABOUT KRAMER?

[MAKBison]

Maybe I missed it, and I humbly apologize if I did, but WHAT ABOUT KRAMER?

For HR purposes I believe he is a state employee. I am sure he is under Larson and not Entz. But to answer your questions....NO ONE KNOWS :-)

[MAKBison]

What do take from the N. Texas coach that didn't come because he wanted to bring his whole staff with him? Does that mean that Chris will be able only to bring the positions that are available, given the current staff that is already in place?

FYI...this has been widely reported now....you have to accept the KSU coordinators is and always was FAKE NEWS.
The guy you speak of pulled out cuz he was not sure in. His agent made up the rational as for why he pulled out, which again is FAKE NEWS. the real reason he pulled out is he did not want to potentially lose the job to an FCS guy....his team thought it would lower his stock. Hence the fake news runor was created. BTW....This all comes from the KSU local news beat wirtter that has been 100% right with all of his info throughout this.

[westriver bison]

K-state guys are saying that coordinators are staying in place for now along with most of the defensive staff. Offensive staff will see some changes.

The Kstate guys on message boards are speculating just like everyone else.


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[BadlandsBison]

The Kstate guys on message boards are speculating just like everyone else.


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I know. We will find out soon enough.

[Bison 4 Life]

Remember, CK has a larger pool than just the NDSU coaches. Likely people with good recruiting for the areas they need.

[NDSUstudent]

I think Klieman would be making a big mistake if he doesn't bring in his own coordinators. His first call should be to Hazelton.

[56BISON73]

What do take from the N. Texas coach that didn't come because he wanted to bring his whole staff with him? Does that mean that Chris will be able to only bring the positions that are available, given the current staff that is already in place?

CK can bring anyone he wants to.

[BisonLaw]

8704

Pic from today's press conference from the Forum website.

[23Bison]

I can about imagine what they had to say about it.

[Bison 4 Life]

8704

Pic from today's press conference from the Forum website.

Well that's everybody. Can't be everybody.

Weird looks on their faces.

[DakotaOkie]

8704

Pic from today's press conference from the Forum website.
Jeez, that is not a crew that seems very happy about anything.

[EC8CH]

Well that's everybody. Can't be everybody.

Weird looks on their faces.

Winter camp game face.

[BisonLaw]

I wouldn't look to much into the looks on their faces. Rob Sobolik (I believe?) and the random old guy in the background have the same random look. Don't even know who was talking when the pic was taken. I think what is most telling is that they all showed up to support, regardless of whether they're staying or going.

[Professor Chaos]

It was probably taken right after McFeely asked a question. /notpurple

[CAS4127]

Too be candid, not everyone is 100% in on the hire.

And Mrs. Entz needs to get the hell off Twitter, as do a number of players. No, I don’t follow them. Others that I do follow re-tweet their posts.


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[Mr. Burgundy]

[QUOTE=CAS4127;1323885]Too be candid, not everyone is 100% in on the hire.

And Mrs. Entz needs to get the hell off Twitter, as do a number of players. No, I don’t follow them. Others that I do follow re-tweet their posts.

There is no hire that would make 100% everyone happy.

[SDbison]

[QUOTE=CAS4127;1323885]Too be candid, not everyone is 100% in on the hire.

And Mrs. Entz needs to get the hell off Twitter, as do a number of players. No, I don’t follow them. Others that I do follow re-tweet their posts.

There is no hire that would make 100% everyone happy. How very true. Not to mention who knows how things are going to.turn out for the new staff (who is promoted, who takes job with Klieman or elsewhere and who was or will be over-looked). All these coaches work their ass off to make the Bison the best football program in the country!

[56BISON73]

I wouldn't look to much into the looks on their faces. Rob Sobolik (I believe?) and the random old guy in the background have the same random look. Don't even know who was talking when the pic was taken. I think what is most telling is that they all showed up to support, regardless of whether they're staying or going.

The random old guy is a huge Bison supporter$$$$$$$$$ that used to own Fargo Wire and Harness.

[CAS4127]

The random old guy is a huge Bison supporter$$$$$$$$$ that used to own Fargo Wire and Harness.

Fargo Assembly??!


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[BFKasper14]

Too be candid, not everyone is 100% in on the hire.

And Mrs. Entz needs to get the hell off Twitter, as do a number of players. No, I don’t follow them. Others that I do follow re-tweet their posts.


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Any details regarding the first statement?


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[roadwarrior]

Fargo Assembly??

Yes...…...

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

8704Pic from today's press conference from the Forum website.

I didn't see this in the forum. Do you have the original link?

[Bison 4 Life]

There is nothing out of line on Brenda Entz's Twitter feed.

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

I didn't see this in the forum. Do you have the original link?

Never mind. Found it. Hard to read much into that, IMO

[CAS4127]

Yes...…...

He and his wife have been huge NDSU supporters going way back, and I mean WAY back. Very nice people too.


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[CAS4127]

Any details regarding the first statement?


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No, other than I’m not referring to current coaches, staff or anyone else in the pic. Just to be clear.


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[Honeybooboo]

Too be candid, not everyone is 100% in on the hire.

And Mrs. Entz needs to get the hell off Twitter, as do a number of players. No, I don’t follow them. Others that I do follow re-tweet their posts.


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What has she tweeted that is so bad....I haven't saw anything bad

[BFKasper14]

No, other than I’m not referring to current coaches, staff or anyone else in the pic. Just to be clear.


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Gotcha. Thanks for that! I was thinking maybe some of the coaches were sour about it. Good to know.


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[Mr. Burgundy]

He and his wife have been huge NDSU supporters going way back, and I mean WAY back. Very nice people too.


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Agreed, they are great people!!! Big time supporters!

[scottietohottie]

8704

Pic from today's press conference from the Forum website.

Somebody show them an old irrelevant nickel?

[56BISON73]

Fargo Assembly??!


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Yep...thats it.

[CAS4127]

Agreed, they are great people!!! Big time supporters!

Would you also agree that this isn’t a “CK-like” hire, in that Entz, at least right now, is not nearly as polished and ready as CK and family was/were when he was hired. And, this is a ML hire, not a GT hire—I’ve put a lot of thought into that personally. And yeah, I’m a bit concerned, as are others.


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[HerdBot]

8704

Pic from today's press conference from the Forum website.8707

If you look at this picture, nobody looks happy but obviously everyone is.

[HerdBot]

Jeez, that is not a crew that seems very happy about anything.

So are you saying Matt Entz, Matt Larson, and the Prez arent happy? Cmon silly speculation. The Foolum easily manipulates the simple minded people

http://www.bisonville.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8707&d=1545101279

[HerdBot]

Would you also agree that this isn’t a “CK-like” hire, in that Entz, at least right now, is not nearly as polished and ready as CK and family was/were when he was hired. And, this is a ML hire, not a GT hire—I’ve put a lot of thought into that personally. And yeah, I’m a bit concerned, as are others.


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I think Entz has been around great coaches his entire life. He even saw the exact same process unfold. Klieman wasnt that polished right away. His on camera and press conferences used to be awkward compared to Bohl. He even almost forgot to take a timeout in his first game and kept interfering with the Coordinators. Now he is polished as hell

[NDSUstudent]

There was no CK-like hire, Entz is probably as close to it as we could get though.

[MAKBison]

Too be candid, not everyone is 100% in on the hire.

And Mrs. Entz needs to get the hell off Twitter, as do a number of players. No, I don’t follow them. Others that I do follow re-tweet their posts.


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What post are u talking about? Ms. Entz has posted nothing any sane person would balk at.

[wagsabison]

We’ll definitely hit a few road bumps next year and there will be some growing pains. College football has turnover and we’ll see how well we do this go around.


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[StL Bison Fan]

I think Entz has been around great coaches his entire life. He even saw the exact same process unfold. Klieman wasnt that polished right away. His on camera and press conferences used to be awkward compared to Bohl. He even almost forgot to take a timeout in his first game and kept interfering with the Coordinators. Now he is polished as hell

We got Coach K through the rough times of the poorly tied tie.

[2011BisonAlumni]

Would you also agree that this isn’t a “CK-like” hire, in that Entz, at least right now, is not nearly as polished and ready as CK and family was/were when he was hired. And, this is a ML hire, not a GT hire—I’ve put a lot of thought into that personally. And yeah, I’m a bit concerned, as are others.


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Eh I don’t know. Was Klieman really that polished?

We all had some concerns about Klieman. More or less, he been a DB coach save for 2 years as a defensive coordinator at NDSU and one year with a losing record as a head coach at a D3 school.

[TAILG8R]

Those were pretty damn bad. It's like he was trying to wring the life out of those suckers.
We got Coach K through the rough times of the poorly tied tie.

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[BisonLaw]

Well, Mrs. Entz's tweets are protected now.

Bisonville strikes again.

[JMB]

Well, Mrs. Entz's tweets are protected now.

Bisonville strikes again.

Sounds like it is a lesson well learned.. :)

[Bison 4 Life]

I hope nobody harassed her. There was nothing wrong with her Twitter feed.

[CAS4127]

Well, Mrs. Entz's tweets are protected now.

Bisonville strikes again.

Good!! And I hope she quits replying to player tweets and that players quit the tweeting, at least until Natty is done. Sproles is the worst, and he really hasn’t shown up yet on the field. Hopefully he steps it up next year and we can use him to replace Shep, which will be really big shoes for him to fill.


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[56BISON73]

Would you also agree that this isn’t a “CK-like” hire, in that Entz, at least right now, is not nearly as polished and ready as CK and family was/were when he was hired. And, this is a ML hire, not a GT hire—I’ve put a lot of thought into that personally. And yeah, I’m a bit concerned, as are others.


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I didnt think CK was all that comfortable in front of the camera when he was first hired. Hedidnt look comfortable in a suit. At the end he was pretty slick. Entz will find his way also.

[CAS4127]

Eh I don’t know. Was Klieman really that polished?

We all had some concerns about Klieman. More or less, he been a DB coach save for 2 years as a defensive coordinator at NDSU and one year with a losing record as a head coach at a D3 school.

He and his family were humble and respected the tradition of NDSU. Could not care less about the balance of your post.


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[Bison 4 Life]

Well, Mrs. Entz's tweets are protected now.

Bisonville strikes again.

Bisonville always has to Bisonville.

[Ndsu84]

We got Coach K through the rough times of the poorly tied tie.

Ha!

My wife used to say you can tell Straus took over Klieman’s wardrobe. :)

[Honeybooboo]

Good!! And I hope she quits replying to player tweets and that players quit the tweeting, at least until Natty is done. Sproles is the worst, and he really hasn’t shown up yet on the field. Hopefully he steps it up next year and we can use him to replace Shep, which will be really big shoes for him to fill.


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Sproles has not put anything negative out on social media, I think your missing something

[Bison 4 Life]

Sproles has not put anything negative out on social media, I think your missing something

https://media.makeameme.org/created/forget-it-hes-nqunii.jpg

[CAS4127]

Sproles has not put anything negative out on social media, I think your missing something

No, I’m not missing anything, and that’s the problem. He just needs to shut it down IMO. Way to active on social media from what I’ve seen and want (again, I don’t follow him, but people like so-called and other do and re-tweet). I don’t see shit from Stick, Shep, Bruce etc. Get what I mean?

[thunderingherd]

Good!! And I hope she quits replying to player tweets and that players quit the tweeting, at least until Natty is done. Sproles is the worst, and he really hasn’t shown up yet on the field. Hopefully he steps it up next year and we can use him to replace Shep, which will be really big shoes for him to fill.


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Wow. Im relieved someone called the twitter police. Go to bed

[MAKBison]

Good!! And I hope she quits replying to player tweets and that players quit the tweeting, at least until Natty is done. Sproles is the worst, and he really hasn’t shown up yet on the field. Hopefully he steps it up next year and we can use him to replace Shep, which will be really big shoes for him to fill.


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The only tweet I could find that matches what you seem to be hyperventilating over is a pic of the players rushing the stands after the win. The caption reads: Why NDSU, this is why #family

All the rest of his post are generic family etc. What's the problem?



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[Honeybooboo]

https://media.makeameme.org/created/forget-it-hes-nqunii.jpg

I just don't see anything wrong with Phoenix congratulating his cousin on a verbal to Umary today, and calling NDSU a Family

But apparently he needs to play better to earn the right to tweet...lol my god

[CAS4127]

Wow. Im relieved someone called the twitter police. Go to bed

Huh? Just stated my opinion—apparently it may have resonated somewhere.


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[CAS4127]

This seems to be the tweet in question



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Why NDSU?<br>This is why...... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Family?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Family</a> <a href="https://t.co/fMZ05NaAxx">pic.twitter.com/fMZ05NaAxx</a></p>— Phoenix Sproles (@PSproles) <a href="https://twitter.com/PSproles/status/1074459609153314816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah, that makes it clear ....


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[Bison 4 Life]

All I've seen from Twitter is that this team is a huge family and that players, coaches, and their families all buy into it.


Pardon me while I find a fainting couch.

[Professor Chaos]

No, I’m not missing anything, and that’s the problem. He just needs to shut it down IMO. Way to active on social media from what I’ve seen and want (again, I don’t follow him, but people like so-called and other do and re-tweet). I don’t see shit from Stick, Shep, Bruce etc. Get what I mean?
Activity on social media (as long as it's not done during games/practices/etc) has little to no impact on performance on the field from a player and especially from a coach's wife. If it bothers you that much maybe you should spend less time on social media.

[Twincitybizon]

No, I’m not missing anything, and that’s the problem. He just needs to shut it down IMO. Way to active on social media from what I’ve seen and want (again, I don’t follow him, but people like so-called and other do and re-tweet). I don’t see shit from Stick, Shep, Bruce etc. Get what I mean?

Grrrrr . Get off my lawn.... You sounds old.... Have a pbr and relax eh

[Bison bison]

These kids better not be making any long distance phone calls either.

[56BISON73]

Activity on social media (as long as it's not done during games/practices/etc) has little to no impact on performance on the field from a player and especially from a coach's wife. If it bothers you that much maybe you should spend less time on social media.

What he is alluding to is the perception one could get from a few misspoken words. After its been posted you can never retract it no matter how innocent the person posting it thought the post was.We had a player a few years ago posting on who was injured. Stupid shit like that can get you in to trouble.
Others can misconstrue what was said. Nothing good comes out of it.

[MAKBison]

Yeah, that makes it clear ....


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I fixed it

[MAKBison]

What he is alluding to is the perception one could get from a few misspoken words. After its been posted you can never retract it no matter how innocent the person posting it thought the post was.We had a player a few years ago posting on who was injured. Stupid shit like that can get you in to trouble.

And he is doing nothing close that.

One pic with the players celebrating with the students and the caption " why ndsu #family"

What's more someone tweeted him about being good and he tweets back?..."its about the Team"

[CAS4127]

Activity on social media (as long as it's not done during games/practices/etc) has little to no impact on performance on the field from a player and especially from a coach's wife. If it bothers you that much maybe you should spend less time on social media.

Pretty sure he posted within 5-10 mins of the SDSU win (from what I saw from re-tweets from people that post here), which means he was in locker room with “his” team. Yeah, that’s a solid teammate. Run to your phone and call for attention. Nah, do it on the field and you don’t have to do that.


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[Professor Chaos]

What he is alluding to is the perception one could get from a few misspoken words. After its been posted you can never retract it no matter how innocent the person posting it thought the post was.We had a player a few years ago posting on who was injured. Stupid shit like that can get you in to trouble.
Fair enough and that's a good point. The content of tweets can be questioned. That Lehigh receiver that got suspended for a tweet a few years back is evidence enough of that.

But I don't see an issue with Sproles in particular. He's got coaches following him so I'm sure there's checks in place there.

[El_Chapo]

Pretty sure he posted within 5-10 mins of the SDSU win (from what I saw from re-tweets from people that post here), which means he was in locker room with “his” team. Yeah, that’s a solid teammate. Run to your phone and call for attention. Nah, do it on the field and you don’t have to do that.


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Sure hope Pheonix and the rest don't fly to Miami and take a picture on a yacht!! (ODJ of Giants 3 years ago)

I follow every single player, everything is good, even Aaron Mercadel sliding into hottie's DM's... LOL.

[Bison bison]

It was 24 minutes.

This is how many communicate.

Shocked if he was the only one with his phone out by then. And who cares if he was?

[MAKBison]

Pretty sure he posted within 5-10 mins of the SDSU win (from what I saw from re-tweets from people that post here), which means he was in the locker room with “his” team. Yeah, that’s a solid teammate. Run to your phone and call for attention. Nah, do it on the field and you don’t have to do that.


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One tweet about going to Frisco a retweet of the official NDsU tweet and a tweet congratulating stick which was a official fcs retweet.

Not seeing it.....trying to, but can't find the there.

[Honeybooboo]

Lol..someone on the joose tonight??

[Professor Chaos]

Pretty sure he posted within 5-10 mins of the SDSU win (from what I saw from re-tweets from people that post here), which means he was in locker room with “his” team. Yeah, that’s a solid teammate. Run to your phone and call for attention. Nah, do it on the field and you don’t have to do that.


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Ok, I see where you're coming from and I'd agree that's not the best time to be pulling out your phone. If anything a quick word from a coach should be all that's needed since it was harmless enough in that situation.

[Bison 4 Life]

For someone who doesn't follow Twitter, that's quite the forensic accounting job.

[MAKBison]

Ok, I see where you're coming from and I'd agree that's not the best time to be pulling out your phone. If anything a quick word from a coach should be all that's needed since it was harmless enough in that situation.

I call bs.....first chuck was pissed about the #family pic. Now it's because it was too soon after a game. Whatever.....dude is just in a mood.

The pregame retweet between PS and his dad must really be bugging u CAS. I mean How could he be focused on the game. Lol

[Vet70]

I've said it before---anyone who spends any time on social media is an idiot.

[CAS4127]

For someone who doesn't follow Twitter, that's quite the forensic accounting job.

I process quickly.


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[PattyBison]

No, I’m not missing anything, and that’s the problem. He just needs to shut it down IMO. Way to active on social media from what I’ve seen and want (again, I don’t follow him, but people like so-called and other do and re-tweet). I don’t see shit from Stick, Shep, Bruce etc. Get what I mean?

Meh. 5 years ago a lot of players were really active on twitter. Twitter isn't the most popular with the current batch of college kids. I am sure there is a lot of social media activity that you don't see. This generation doesn't know any other reality.

[CAS4127]

I've said it before---anyone who spends any time on social media is an idiot.

Lmao!!




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[CAS4127]

I call bs.....first chuck was pissed about the #family pic. Now it's because it was too soon after a game. Whatever.....dudes in a mood.

What family pic?


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[Bison bison]

I process quickly.


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And you were only off by 19 minutes!

[Wally]

I might have to sit out a few plays and try BV again in a week or so. Uff

[MontBison]

We got Coach K through the rough times of the poorly tied tie.

Had and still has the worst haircut in the game. Who hacks off there sideburns like that?

[MAKBison]

What family pic?


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His dad twitted him wishing him and the team good look tonight. There is a pic with him and his dad on the field who knows when that was taken, but again who cares.

[Bison bison]

Looks like it was on field - during a game!

Holy sh#t! Kids these days!!!

His dad tweeted it at 6.39 in morning. You know what that means!!!

[Bison 4 Life]

Looks like it was on field - during a game!

Holy sh#t! Kids these days!!!

His dad tweeted it at 6.39 in morning. You know what that means!!!

Be nice. It's dark outside so he can't yell at any clouds until tomorrow.

[CAS4127]

And you were only off by 19 minutes!

Don’t think so and, any players who is out of locker room in less than 30 mins after a big, physical game is, well, trying to get out of locker room for a reason. If you haven’t been there, your wouldn’t understand.


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[MAKBison]

Looks like it was on field - during a game!

Holy sh#t! Kids these days!!!

This just in from SM aka The Devil's Tool

Grimsley, Johnson Named to Walter Camp FCS All-America Team

[Bison bison]

Don’t think so and, any players who is out of locker room in less than 30 mins after a big, physical game is, well, trying to get out of locker room for a reason. If you haven’t been there, your wouldn’t understand.


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It's a fact.

It's time stamped at 10.33. the game was over at 10.09 according to the box score. Took me all of three minutes to find this out.

I'm sure he posted it from the locker room.

[MAKBison]

Don’t think so and, any players who is out of locker room in less than 30 mins after a big, physical game is, well, trying to get out of locker room for a reason. If you haven’t been there, your wouldn’t understand.


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U should of just stopped when we told ya u were being too sensitive. Tell me, u just didn't say....." You guys just don't understand ". OMG. This is getting uncomfortable u need someone to stop by Walgreens. Lol

[CAS4127]

It's a fact.

It's time stamped at 10.33. the game was over at 10.09 according to the box score. Took me all of three minutes to find this out.

I'm sure he posted it from the locker room.

Perfect. Proves my point that he was posting will still locker room with “his”team!


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[Bison bison]

Who f#ckin cares!

[Bison 4 Life]

If you haven’t been there, your wouldn’t understand.



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[MAKBison]

Who f#ckin cares!

Let me break this down 4 u.
He is.....

1) oversensitive
2) telling u that " u just don't understand"
3) getting upset cuz PS dared to multi task when his entire focus should have been on providing suppor ....despite the fact PS Was indeed providing support.
4) fixating on the time.... min by min.
5) being unreasonably and not logical
6) being judgmental about Entz's wife SM habits of being too supportive.
7) can't admit being wrong.

U get where I am going with this

[Bison bison]

Fine. I'll quit. Hope you're happy, MAK.

[MAKBison]

Fine. I'll quit. Hope you're happy, MAK.
Good call.....I find it best to just let nature run its course. Lol

[Bisonwinagn]

Jfc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! Grow the fuck up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

[56BISON73]

Good call.....I find it best to just let nature run its course. Lol

No you really dont let nature take its course like you are some innocent by stander. You always seem to lend a helping hand.:biggrin:

[THEsocalledfan]

https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article223215485.html

Sounds like Klieman is making some staff decisions this week; betting after signing day. I think we will have some clarity by Friday.

[BisonCardinal]

Reading that kansas.com article, it would seem odd to have both Collin Klein and Randy Herberg, both QB coaches, on staff. I'm thinking Hedberg stays.

[westriver bison]

Reading that kansas.com article, it would seem odd to have both Collin Klein and Randy Herberg, both QB coaches, on staff. I'm thinking Hedberg stays.

I don’t think Klein will be qb coach. Probably tight ends.


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[Professor Chaos]

I don’t think Klein will be qb coach. Probably tight ends.


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Was that supposed to be purple???

[Honeybooboo]

I don’t think Klein will be qb coach. Probably tight ends.


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Really? Former star QB and current QB coach is going to be moved to TE coach??

I highly doubt it

[BadlandsBison]

Gonna be a long week.

[westriver bison]

Really? Former star QB and current QB coach is going to be moved to TE coach??

I highly doubt it

He played quarterback more like a fullback, same with the quarterbacks he’s coached in Manhattan. He never threw the ball well and neither do the players he coached. Kstate’s system will change a lot. I don’t see them looking at the sideline when they are lined up to get the play.


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[Wally]

Really? Former star QB and current QB coach is going to be moved to TE coach??

I highly doubt it

If a guys ultimate goal is to be an OC, it makes perfect sense that he may be a TE coach, an RB coach, etc along the way

[MAKBison]

No you really dont let nature take its course like you are some innocent by stander. You always seem to lend a helping hand.:biggrin:



So are saying one needs to give cas a hug, be a good listener, maybe even pick some chocolate. I mean, I guess if I think it would help.

[ndsubison1]

Dont have to play and coach the same position

[IzzyFlexion]

I might have to sit out a few plays and try BV again in a week or so. Uff

Concussionville protocol?!?! :rofl:

[GOBISON123]

He played quarterback more like a fullback, same with the quarterbacks he’s coached in Manhattan. He never threw the ball well and neither do the players he coached. Kstate’s system will change a lot. I don’t see them looking at the sideline when they are lined up to get the play.


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He trained Eli Dunn the UNI QB while he was at UNI and Eli Dunn was okay this year.

[TAILG8R]

He trained Eli Dunn the UNI QB while he was at UNI and Eli Dunn was okay this year.So Dunn was good after he was no longer coached by him?

:)

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[56BISON73]

So are saying one needs to give cas a hug, be a good listener, maybe even pick some chocolate. I mean, I guess if I think it would help.

Thats what you took from my post? :facepalm:

[tjbison]

This thread got stupid....but go figure

[MAKBison]

Thats what you took from my post? :facepalm:

Nay, I was just ignoring it. Given the uptick in the cred count last night, it seems my theme was a hit. A guys gotta Stick with what works, plus its funny cuz it was true

[BisonTeacher]

This thread got stupid....but go figure

13 pages and no updates on coaches. Yeah...I'd say so.

[MAKBison]

13 pages and no updates on coaches. Yeah...I'd say so.

Can't update until there is something to update

[ndsubison1]

Urban Meyer to OC