press conferece 12/11?

[KTF]

Roadwarrior posted in another thread that their is a press conference this afternoon (12/11). Can any confirm this? Time?

[bruinbison]

Roadwarrior posted in another thread that their is a press conference this afternoon (12/11). Can any confirm this? Time?

I heard mention of a Tuesday press conference on the sports last night, sorry I missed the time, but my impression was it was a regular playoff game press conference, possibly including players.
But you never know what will be asked by the media......

[roadwarrior]

Jeff Culhane said it on the radio. He also said time to be announced.

[BisonLaw]

It's a Matt Larsen press conference. I really hope we get some substance out of it other than just typical coach search speak.

[roadwarrior]

Culhane just tweeted about it, but still no time announced.

[Honeybooboo]

It's a Matt Larsen press conference. I really hope we get some substance out of it other than just typical coach search speak.

well, they dont want to compromise anything, and so far it appears CK is handling this like a true professional, and already threw out a little hint last night that he is confident the culture will be retained in some way and he will be talking with staff at KSU before making any decisions

its pretty clear unless Matt Larson is a complete idiot he has been preparing for this since the hint of Snyder hanging it up came out, guessing they are getting everything all in place for a seemless transition.

so im going to trust its all good unlike 2013

[BisonLaw]

well, they dont want to compromise anything, and so far it appears CK is handling this like a true professional, and already threw out a little hint last night that he is confident the culture will be retained in some way and he will be talking with staff at KSU before making any decisions

its pretty clear unless Matt Larson is a complete idiot he has been preparing for this since the hint of Snyder hanging it up came out, guessing they are getting everything all in place for a seemless transition.

so im going to trust its all good unlike 2013

I'm with ya. Hopefully they just announce Entz today. That would be the best possible scenario.

[Honeybooboo]

I'm with ya. Hopefully they just announce Entz today. That would be the best possible scenario.

we will be good, unlike listening to Chris Berg right now on ND today trying to pull the distraction card

[KTF]

Could they possibly announce the replacement today? I have no idea what needs to be done behind the scenes. Seems pretty quick given the fact that CK was just hired, or did he keep ML in the loop over the weekend and ML could move behind the scenes.

[cbline]

we will be good, unlike listening to Chris Berg right now on ND today trying to pull the distraction card

With Coach K's professionalism and this senior-laden team, I expect great things from the top down for the rest of this team. We all know times that we have been a part of something bigger than ourselves, and I believe that this is one of those times for this disciplined team and staff. After witnessing the results of the present culture, I predict no letdowns this week for the Bison.

[Vet70]

Could they possibly announce the replacement today? I have no idea what needs to be done behind the scenes. Seems pretty quick given the fact that CK was just hired, or did he keep ML in the loop over the weekend and ML could move behind the scenes.

If it is Entz I think we will very likely know today.

[23Bison]

If Entz is named the new head coach of NDSU football I'm going to sit in the dark and do my very best evil laugh for what that means for the rest of the FCS.

Only slightly joking.... :evil:

[tjbison]

If it is Entz I think we will very likely know today.

i agree, if its internal they want to move quick for recruits

[BisonLaw]

Matt Larsen Press Conference at 2pm today live on 1660. Sure there will be video on other platforms.

[EC8CH]

Matt Larsen Press Conference at 2pm today live on 1660. Sure there will be video on other platforms.

well that sounds like more than a playoff game update, we may have a new coach already.

[roadwarrior]

well that sounds like more than a playoff game update, we may have a new coach already.

What's a "playoff game update"?

[EC8CH]

What's a "playoff game update"?

You know, all the stuff Stig has been complaining about to the NCAA that we'll need to change for their game.

[Professor Chaos]

well that sounds like more than a playoff game update, we may have a new coach already.
Yeah, that's definitely not a normal weekly thing for the AD. I suppose it could just be him answering questions about his succession plan/priorities for Klieman but he could just issue a statement for that. Hopefully it means there's a new head man in place already.

[SDbison]

If Entz is the top candidate and is chosen soon it will be the best outcome for the program. Smoothest transition, allows Klieman to comfortably be head coach for next 2 games, and secures our 2018 recruits. Then the question comes, what if any coaches will Klieman take with him, and would a couple existing standout players follow?

[EC8CH]

If Entz is the top candidate and is chosen soon it will be the best outcome for the program. Smoothest transition, allows Klieman to comfortably be head coach for next 2 games, and secures our 2018 recruits. Then the question comes, what if any coaches will Klieman take with him, and would a couple existing standout players follow?

Predictions on Losses:

Current Players: 0
Verbal: 1
Assistant Coaches: 5

[SDbison]

Predictions on Losses:

Current Players: 0
Verbal: 1
Assistant Coaches: 5

That is too many assistant coaches for my liking. Of course I would prefer 0.

[Bisonator98]

This has to be boosting Bison 1660 ratings for this month anyway. :biggrin:

[EC8CH]

That is too many assistant coaches for my liking. Of course I would prefer 0.

I toyed with guessing 4, but that seemed too optimistic.

[#1BISONFAN ASHLEY]

Predictions on Losses:

Current Players: 0
Verbal: 1
Assistant Coaches: 5

My guess (hope I'm wrong) is we lose Weerts recruit. For assistants we lose Mess, Riley, Hedberg and couple others. Keep Entz as HC.

[IBleedYellow]

Burgundy's silence during this entire process is deafening.

[Professor Chaos]

Goeser (DTs) and Riley (O-line) were the two that stuck with Klieman when Bohl left (although maybe they had no choice) so I'd have to guess they have spots on the K-State staff if they want them so the only way they stay is if they're promoted to a coordinator (and even then maybe not).

Klanderman (DBs) I have no clue on. Ray (WRs) and Williams (DEs) are fairly new so they might be the guys left out if Klieman can't take everyone with him.

EDIT: Although Ray is from Oklahoma and has Kansas recruiting connections IIRC so maybe he's a good fit down there also.

[EC8CH]

My guess (hope I'm wrong) is we lose Weerts recruit. For assistants we lose Mess, Riley, Hedberg and couple others. Keep Entz as HC.

We lose one coordinator, possibly both. Riley and Goeser likely gone. Would guess a couple on top of that. If we only lose 5 I think that's still a win so long as the core right ones stay.

[aces1180]

I don't think Hedberg is gone...I read once that his wife said NDSU was the last stop as she doesn't want to move anymore.

[tjbison]

we will be fine

[Bison 4 Life]

we will be fine

Yeah, it's silly to think most of our coaches won't be gone. Our program outlasts coaches, I'm not worried.

[Professor Chaos]

I don't think Hedberg is gone...I read once that his wife said NDSU was the last stop as she doesn't want to move anymore.
He'd also have to recruit new areas and be on the road more since I believe right now he only recruits ND.

[#1BISONFAN ASHLEY]

We lose one coordinator, possibly both. Riley and Goeser likely gone. Would guess a couple on top of that. If we only lose 5 I think that's still a win so long as the core right ones stay.

It will all depend on how many of Snyder's assistants are staying. I'm holding out hope that most of the assistants are still in place and we get to keep a majority and only lose 2 or 3, that would probably be the best case scenario. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

[Bisonator98]

Yeah Hedberg isn't going anywhere unless he decides to retire but he has a pretty good gig right now and I'd think the next coach would recognize his worth.

[HerdBot]

My gut says... Entz, Goeser, Hedberg, Buddah, and Roehl stay. This is based on gut feeling, not fact. I think Goeser is in line to be a DC. More gut feeling

[Mr. Burgundy]

Predictions on Losses:

Current Players: 0
Verbal: 1
Assistant Coaches: 5

I will take the "under" on losing 5 assistant coaches to K-State.

[ndsubison1]

Messingham?
Riley?
Jacobs?
Goeser?

[MrSnuffleupagus]

My gut is were losing Klieman.

[Kujava23]

I will take the "under" on losing 5 assistant coaches to K-State.

hmmm inside info perhaps????

Will you make a prediction on verbals??

[tjbison]

I will take the "under" on losing 5 assistant coaches to K-State.

havent you heard, Klieman lied, its a pretty good chance he takes everyone but the Seniors with him...come on Burgundy get with the shit!!!

[IBleedYellow]

I will take the "under" on losing 5 assistant coaches to K-State.

I no longer have any worries.


As always, it is a damn good day to be a Bison!

[westnodak93bison]

Could they possibly announce the replacement today? I have no idea what needs to be done behind the scenes. Seems pretty quick given the fact that CK was just hired, or did he keep ML in the loop over the weekend and ML could move behind the scenes.Probably

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[Mr. Burgundy]

havent you heard, Klieman lied, its a pretty good chance he takes everyone but the Seniors with him...come on Burgundy get with the shit!!!

sorry for my silence, I am a slow reader and I have been reading the 198,981 posts from Bison 4 life.

I am up to 5:42 yesterday....news seems slow. Anything happen after 5:42??? Sorry...so many important posts to sort through!!!

[Bison 4 Life]

sorry for my silence, I am a slow reader and I have been reading the 198,981 posts from Bison 4 life.

I am up to 5:42 yesterday....news seems slow. Anything happen after 5:42??? Sorry...so many important posts to sort through!!!

Sorry, I'll slow down so your obsession with me doesn't get in the way of your important work.

[IBleedYellow]

sorry for my silence, I am a slow reader and I have been reading the 198,981 posts from Bison 4 life.

I am up to 5:42 yesterday....news seems slow. Anything happen after 5:42??? Sorry...so many important posts to sort through!!!

Those posts don't matter - keep speaking in tongues about what you know. :hungry:

[tjbison]

sorry for my silence, I am a slow reader and I have been reading the 198,981 posts from Bison 4 life.

I am up to 5:42 yesterday....news seems slow. Anything happen after 5:42??? Sorry...so many important posts to sort through!!!

lol......been some awesome and sad reads

[56BISON73]

havent you heard, Klieman lied, its a pretty good chance he takes everyone but the Seniors with him...come on Burgundy get with the shit!!!

I heard he was taking the seniors also. Damn him!!!!

[Mr. Burgundy]

Sorry, I'll slow down so your obsession with me doesn't get in the way of your important work.

well, you responded in one minute. Sorry. I will stop obsessing....

Enjoy.

[imabison]

It's a Matt Larsen press conference. I really hope we get some substance out of it other than just typical coach search speak.

I am very sure that the relationship between Klieman, and Larsen is much better than it was between Bohl and GT so things are probably transitioning much smoother.

And in the interest of recruiting etc, ML will want to get it done...Whatever the announcement is GO BISON??

[cbline]

I am very sure that the relationship between Klieman, and Larsen is much better than it was between Bohl and GT so things are probably transitioning much smoother.

And in the interest of recruiting etc, ML will want to get it done...Whatever the announcement is SIOUX SUCK

Fixed it for you.

[imabison]

Fixed it for you.

Fixed it to a NONEXISTANT name, shame on you.

[ndsubison1]

It will def be informing. If they dont have a hire yet, he'll say they are looking into things and will complete in coming days

[HerdBot]

Heard on the insiders it will be live on Bison 1660

[BisonNation11]

It's Gus Bradley people. I have the text.

[Vet70]

I am guessing that we are all guessing and nobody knows for sure or they are not saying. While we are at it I'll take the over on recruits.

[BFKasper14]

2:00 today per inforum.


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[phxbison]

Does anybody know what time the press conference is at ?

[EC8CH]

I will take the "under" on losing 5 assistant coaches to K-State.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/91e3ebc0a1aadb77e510ce90cef380dc/tenor.gif?itemid=3471637

[heckler]

here. we. go.

[imabison]

here. we. go.

Blocked at work , pls say how it is...thanks

[CalBison97]

https://www.inforum.com/sports/931853-WATCH-LIVE-NDSU-athletic-director-Matt-Larsen-press-conference

[Bison 4 Life]

This is starting to feel like a live press release.

"candidates are being looked at"

[Professor Chaos]

Larsen says he expects to identify the next head coach in the next 3-4 days. Probably the new coach is introduced this Saturday???

[2011BisonAlumni]

Larsen basically acknowledged him and Chris have had conversations on the staff he will bring with him as he has a ton of respect for them.

Firmly believe he knows who is gone right now.

[OrygunBison]

If it is Entz (or someone else on the staff), it would be pretty bad ass if they announce by having him join Kleiman leading the team through the tunnel on Friday.

[Bison 4 Life]

Larsen basically acknowledged him and Chris have had conversations on the staff he will bring with him as he has a ton of respect for them.

Firmly believe he knows who is gone right now.

Yet the possibility exists that an internal hire might happen, disproving your "everybody's gone" theory.

[Mr Meaty]

If it is Entz (or someone else on the staff), it would be pretty bad ass if they announce by having him join Kleiman leading the team through the tunnel on Friday.

That would really rock the joint!!!! All for it.

[Vet70]

ML---run the ball and defense. Works for me.

[BisonLaw]

If it is Entz (or someone else on the staff), it would be pretty bad ass if they announce by having him join Kleiman leading the team through the tunnel on Friday.

This would be epic!

[StL Bison Fan]

The obligatory ‘Stay Calm and Carry On’ news conference

[WYOBISONMAN]

Yet the possibility exists that an internal hire might happen, disproving your "everybody's gone" theory.

It is pretty common to have someone stay behind that wants to be the HC.

[bajadanny]

Sounds like he is waiting for someone to tell him who to hire

[Bisonator98]

Didn't learn a whole lot from that presser. :bleh:

[IBleedYellow]

Cool - we called a press conference a la UND when it could have been a press release.

[heckler]

Cliff Note Version so please don't take this word for word.

AD: Congratulates Klieman and his family. Says NDSU is the toughest and best job in the FCS. Early signing period is making the process go faster. Reached out to recruits to say NDSU stood behind our offers to them. Next 3-4 days will interview candidates for the best option.

Question: Internal candidate the best option?
AD: It is an option and we have a very talented staff but we want the best possible person for the job. Really talented staff here.

Question: Going to use a committee?
AD: He is leaning on a small group of people to help with the process.

Question: Who does Chris think should be hired or who will go with him?
AD: Had a lot of conversations with Chris (one this morning) but won't go into detail. Chris thinks very highly of his staff.

Question: Mental list of possible candidates?
AD: From the day the AD got to NDSU he has created a mental list of possible candidates.

AD: College athletics is about relationships and boils down to trust and respect to be completely honest.

Question: Important for the next coach to have NDSU ties?
AD: Very important but not needed

Question: Salary structure?
AD: Depends where we end up. It will be similar to Klieman but it all depends.

Question: What to look for in a candidate and their coaching philosophy?
AD: Run the ball and great defense

Question: Are people reaching out to you about wanting the job?
AD: Best job in the FCS lots of people and their representation have reached out.

Question: Will Chris have any input for the head coach?
AD: 100% respect his opinion

Question: Timeline?
AD: We want the right person no matter what. We want him for the long term. If it happens before signing day great if not then that is fine.

Question: Interviews starting this week?
AD: That would be the hope.

[KTF]

If it is Entz (or someone else on the staff), it would be pretty bad ass if they announce by having him join Kleiman leading the team through the tunnel on Friday.

If no successful candidate, seniors only no cr lea d.c. ong...

[Bison 4 Life]

It is pretty common to have someone stay behind that wants to be the HC.

I know. 2011 picked "everybody's gone" as the hill to die on. Of course, he's been breathlessly throwing out every theory he can over the last 48 hrs. A live look:

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0IylOPCNkiqOgMyA/giphy.gif

[Vet70]

Sounds like he is waiting for someone to tell him who to hire

Who is telling him---Bill Snyder?

[CalBison97]

I know. 2011 picked "everybody's gone" as the hill to die on. Of course, he's been breathlessly throwing out every theory he can over the last 48 hrs. A live look:

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0IylOPCNkiqOgMyA/giphy.gif

Give 2011 credit. He's currently batting a thousand.

[2011BisonAlumni]

I know. 2011 picked "everybody's gone" as the hill to die on. Of course, he's been breathlessly throwing out every theory he can over the last 48 hrs. A live look:

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0IylOPCNkiqOgMyA/giphy.gif

I did not say everyone is gone. I said certain members are likely gone. I really think that includes Entz and Mess but time will tell.

[BYZEN]

Cliff Note Version so please don't take this word for word.

AD: Congratulates Klieman and his family. Says NDSU is the toughest and best job in the FCS. Early signing period is making the process go faster. Reached out to recruits to say NDSU stood behind our offers to them. Next 3-4 days will interview candidates for the best option.

Question: Internal candidate the best option?
AD: It is an option and we have a very talented staff but we want the best possible person for the job. Really talented staff here.

Question: Going to use a committee?
AD: He is leaning on a small group of people to help with the process.

Question: Who does Chris think should be hired or who will go with him?
AD: Had a lot of conversations with Chris (one this morning) but won't go into detail. Chris thinks very highly of his staff.

Question: Mental list of possible candidates?
AD: From the day the AD got to NDSU he has created a mental list of possible candidates.

AD: College athletics is about relationships and boils down to trust and respect to be completely honest.

Question: Important for the next coach to have NDSU ties?
AD: Very important but not needed

Question: Salary structure?
AD: Depends where we end up. It will be similar to Klieman but it all depends.

Question: What to look for in a candidate and their coaching philosophy?
AD: Run the ball and great defense

Question: Are people reaching out to you about wanting the job?
AD: Best job in the FCS lots of people and their representation have reached out.

Question: Will Chris have any input for the head coach?
AD: 100% respect his opinion

Question: Timeline?
AD: We want the right person no matter what. We want him for the long term. If it happens before signing day great if not then that is fine.

Question: Interviews starting this week?
AD: That would be the hope.

Short version.....he's stalling until after the game on Friday.

[Coal_train20]

I could be wrong, but "3-4 days" sounds an awful lot like "Entz is leaving." Does anyone remember how long it took GT to name Klieman HC in 2013?

[BisonLaw]

I could be wrong, but "3-4 days" sounds an awful lot like "Entz is leaving." Does anyone remember how long it took GT to name Klieman HC in 2013?

8 days

10char

[Rixen]

Same feeling as some others. This going to a week long search and decision definitely feels like the obvious candidates in house are leaving. Oh well, we shall see.

Keep your heads down and let's bring home another championship, Bison!

[heckler]

Kolpack said that too: "Focus on semifinal game until Friday. Make hire on Saturday."


Short version.....he's stalling until after the game on Friday.

[Professor Chaos]

I could be wrong, but "3-4 days" sounds an awful lot like "Entz is leaving." Does anyone remember how long it took GT to name Klieman HC in 2013?
It was a week between when Bohl was officially announced (which was the day after the news broke that he was leaving) and Klieman was officially announced. Both were on a Sunday. Taylor said that he approached Klieman earlier in the week to gauge his interest in staying on as head coach and all Klieman wanted to do was prepare for the Coastal Carolina game upcoming that Saturday. Then he said Klieman approached him on that Thursday (4 days after Bohl was announced as Wyoming's next head coach) saying that he had interest in the job but wanted to wait until after the Coastal Carolina game to discuss it with Gene. Then they talked at length that Saturday evening (CCU game was that 11AM quarterfinal time slot), Gene made the decision, and announced it officially on Sunday.

Here's the presser with the details: https://youtu.be/dDI_PUwLyOU

[heckler]

It was a week between when Bohl was officially announced (which was the day after the news broke that he was leaving) and Klieman was officially announced. Both were on a Sunday. Taylor said that he approached Klieman earlier in the week to gauge his interest in staying on as head coach and all Klieman wanted to do was prepare for the Coastal Carolina game upcoming that Saturday. Then he said Klieman approached him on that Thursday (4 days after Bohl was announced as Wyoming's next head coach) saying that he had interest in the job but wanted to wait until after the Coastal Carolina game to discuss it with Gene. Then they talked at length that Saturday evening (CCU game was that 11AM quarterfinal time slot), Gene made the decision, and announced it officially on Sunday.

Here's the presser with the details: https://youtu.be/dDI_PUwLyOU

Sounds like the same game plan this time around...

[Bisonator98]

I could be wrong, but "3-4 days" sounds an awful lot like "Entz is leaving." Does anyone remember how long it took GT to name Klieman HC in 2013?

8 days.

Everything takes time, you don't hire someone on the spot at this level.

[imabison]

https://www.inforum.com/sports/931853-WATCH-LIVE-NDSU-athletic-director-Matt-Larsen-press-conference

Thats where I started but it wanted to load a player and it was blocked. Got enough info. Thanks

[SDbison]

Kolpack said that too: "Focus on semifinal game until Friday. Make hire on Saturday."
At this point all I care about is that the Bison beat the snot out of the jackbunnies this Friday. Tired of those turds hanging around.

[Vet70]

I will get back to everyone soon with what all this actually means. First I need to consult my tea leaves, tarot cards, ouija board, star charts, old wives' tales, crystal ball, throwing bones, palm reading, holding a seance, and reading entrails through human sacrifice (I have a few suggestions). If all that fails I'll consult TAB's Magic 8 Ball. The truth is outside there somewhere.

[bruinbison]

If it is Saturday + so be it, I would enjoy learning later that the Friday Night recruits, including Luke Weerts, were “introduced” to the new head coach of the NDSU Bison......!

[Bison20]

You cant expect him to hire someone less than 24 hours after klieman hire is official. I'm sure ml has a good idea of who it is but needs to go through the process and evaluate everything. If its Saturday I think its internal. Have to also have an idea who might be leaving with klieman

[Bison 4 Life]

When CK was hired, the original timeline was described by GT as having gotten to know him before any of the Bohl stuff so he felt comfortable with him.

Couple conversations the first week after Bohl announced. CK wanted to concentrate on Coastal Carolina. Thursday of that week 12/12 CK reaches out to GT saying he's interested also didn't want to talk until after the game.
After CC game, CK goes to GT's house and he talks his way into the job, GT offers, CK accepts. 12/14 press conference to announce.

Basically 12/7 Bohl says adios, 12/14 CK is announced.

[THEsocalledfan]

I will get back to everyone soon with what all this actually means. First I need to consult my tea leaves, tarot cards, ouija board, star charts, old wives' tales, crystal ball, throwing bones, palm reading, holding a seance, and reading entrails through human sacrifice (I have a few suggestions). If all that fails I'll consult TAB's Magic 8 Ball. The truth is outside there somewhere.

Vet, we need a countdown thread until the new hire Saturday. Get 'er done! :)

[Bison Loaf]

Vet, we need a countdown thread until the new hire Saturday. Get 'er done! :)

Vet is busy running Thunderstruck Makers on an interim basis during Loaf's unexplained absence.


Bisonville Administration

[Vet70]

Vet is busy running Thunderstruck Makers on an interim basis during Loaf's unexplained absence.


Bisonville Administration



Which means like Loaf I ain't doing nothin'.

[HerdBot]

You cant expect him to hire someone less than 24 hours after klieman hire is official. I'm sure ml has a good idea of who it is but needs to go through the process and evaluate everything. If its Saturday I think its internal. Have to also have an idea who might be leaving with klieman

Yep. Agreed.

[DM05]

If it is Entz (or someone else on the staff), it would be pretty bad ass if they announce by having him join Kleiman leading the team through the tunnel on Friday.

Holy shit...I can't articulate how much I hope this happens.

[Bisonwinagn]

I'm hopeful they can make a hire by this weekend.

[CAS4127]

I no longer have any worries.


As always, it is a damn good day to be a Bison!

If we can keep Entz and Riley, I would be feeling pretty good. Peeps have/need to understand that we are running incredibly complex schemes right now on both sides of the ball, so to keep two that actually know those complex schemes would be awesome. Now, if we could keep Mess and a few others, that would be icing on the cake. I’m a bit concerned.

If we can’t keep at least the two I mentioned, then I say look hard at Mallory and or Neilson and their respective staffs and bring them in.

People mentioning coaches with no college (HS) no college HC/coordinator experience are not understanding that we run very complex schemes, and those coaches just simply aren’t ready for them, along with what other teams do to scheme against us. We will regress without the correct hire—think Babich-like.


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[CAS4127]

Short version.....he's stalling until after the game on Friday.

I think/feel Saturday or Sunday is better. Players don’t need more distraction before Friday.


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[MAKBison]

Pretty good listen...talks who goes who stays.

The McFeely Mess podcast: BONUS Klieman going to K-State edition | INFORUM
https://www.inforum.com/entertainment/podcasts/931713-The-McFeely-Mess-podcast-BONUS-Klieman-going-to-K-State-edition#.XA_K8eAXF90.twitter

[HerdBot]

If we can keep Entz and Riley, I would be feeling pretty good. Peeps have/need to understand that we are running incredibly complex schemes right now on both sides of the ball, so to keep two that actually know those complex schemes would be awesome. Now, if we could keep Mess and a few others, that would be icing on the cake. I’m a bit concerned.

If we can’t keep at least the two I mentioned, then I say look hard at Mallory and or Neilson and their respective staffs and bring them in.

People mentioning coaches with no college (HS) no college HC/coordinator experience are not understanding that we run very complex schemes, and those coaches just simply aren’t ready for them, along with what other teams do to scheme against us. We will regress without the correct hire—think Babich-like.


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Riley would be super awesome. Riley vould be a great offensive Coordinator too. Hes already the run game Coordinator. K State has a pretty legendary O line coach in Charlie Dickey so the timing may not be right

[noryan34]

If we can keep Entz and Riley, I would be feeling pretty good. Peeps have/need to understand that we are running incredibly complex schemes right now on both sides of the ball, so to keep two that actually know those complex schemes would be awesome. Now, if we could keep Mess and a few others, that would be icing on the cake. I’m a bit concerned.

If we can’t keep at least the two I mentioned, then I say look hard at Mallory and or Neilson and their respective staffs and bring them in.

People mentioning coaches with no college (HS) no college HC/coordinator experience are not understanding that we run very complex schemes, and those coaches just simply aren’t ready for them, along with what other teams do to scheme against us. We will regress without the correct hire—think Babich-like.


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Both those outside coaches you mentioned run completely different offense schemes than NDSU. so they dont really fit the continuity of schemes narrative

[CAS4127]

Riley would be super awesome. Riley vould be a great offensive Coordinator too. Hes already the run game Coordinator. K State has a pretty legendary O line coach in Charlie Dickey so the timing may not be right

I just hope people realize that CK and staff are the best we have EVER had, and we may never have a better HC/staff—they are that good. I have zero doubt that CK and his entire staff could easily transition as a whole to KSU and be outstanding, I just don’t want all of them to go, but I bet CK would like that scenario—other than it would be a huge blow to our program—and I don’t think/feel he wants to do that.


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[MAKBison]

I just hope people realize that CK and staff are the best we have EVER had, and we may never have a better HC/staff—they are that good. I have zero doubt that CK and his entire staff could easily transition as a whole to KSU and be outstanding, I just don’t want all of them to go, but I bet CK would like that scenario—other than it would be a huge blow to our program—and I don’t think/feel he wants to do that.


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He Also needs folks to recruite Texas and Oklahoma.

[CAS4127]

He Also needs folks to recruite Texas and Oklahoma.

If you’re referring to CK, I have no doubt he and his staff could do that, but maybe would need someone else with ties to those states. I saw a tweet last year from a coach somewhere in Florida who said NDSU walks into schools down there “like they are Alabama.” I like that! He didn’t.

Just picture it—>our recruiter walks into any HS anywhere in the country with NDSU attire on, arms crossed and “Hi, I’m representing North Dakota State” with no apologies or inferior thoughts/actions. To me that shows they are proud of and confident in our program, and middle finger if you don’t like that/can’t compete! ‘Tude!! Hope the next staff is the same way, because they should be.


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[CAS4127]

Both those outside coaches you mentioned run completely different offense schemes than NDSU. so they dont really fit the continuity of schemes narrative

I’m not convinced that they can’t and wouldn’t be able too. Also, I feel their schemes are closer to ours than you think. They just don’t have the players to do it the way we do.


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[Bison 4 Life]

If you’re referring to CK, I have no doubt he and his staff could do that, but maybe would need someone else with ties to those states. I saw a tweet last year from a coach somewhere in Florida who said NDSU walks into schools down there “like they are Alabama.” I like that! He didn’t.

Just picture it—>our recruiter walks into any HS anywhere in the country with NDSU attire on, arms crossed and “Hi, I’m representing North Dakota State” with no apologies or inferior thoughts/actions. To me that shows they are proud of and confident in our program, and middle finger if you don’t like that/can’t compete! ‘Tude!! Hope the next staff is the same way, because they should be.


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K State doesn't do that. They can't.

[MAKBison]

If you’re referring to CK, I have no doubt he and his staff could do that, but maybe would need someone else with ties to those states. I saw a tweet last year from a coach somewhere in Florida who said NDSU walks into schools down there “like they are Alabama.” I like that! He didn’t.

Just picture it—>our recruiter walks into any HS anywhere in the country with NDSU attire on, arms crossed and “Hi, I’m representing North Dakota State” with no apologies or inferior thoughts/actions. To me that shows they are proud of and confident in our program, and middle finger if you don’t like that/can’t compete! ‘Tude!! Hope the next staff is the same way, because they should be.


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They are not representing NDSU and they are competing against Alabama now so I think they probably keep folks on who know these areas.

And agree 100%. Btw, your mam Timmy P would be like that ;)

[Herd890]

He Also needs folks to recruite Texas and Oklahoma.

Jason Ray has experience in those states with his time at Oklahoma State, among other stops. I would be surprised if he doesn’t go with Klieman based on recruiting fit and knowledge of the area.

[CAS4127]

They are not representing NDSU and they are competing against Alabama now so I think they probably keep folks on who know these areas.

And agree 100%. Btw, your mam Timmy P would be like that ;)

They were at the time, and that impressed me.

No, TP would not represent that way. I failed to mention they did it with class and not in a boisterous way; rather, in a professional/confident way that clearly gained major respect.


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[MAKBison]

They were at the time, and that impressed me.

No, TP would not represent that way. I failed to mention they did it with class and not in a boisterous way; rather, in a professional/confident way that clearly gained major respect.


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I know what you were saying, I am just pulling your chain. But, I do think they need folks who know Texas and Oklahoma plus having some fbs guys will help with the fans.....that's why IMO Mess is gone (b12 experience)

[HerdBot]

I just hope people realize that CK and staff are the best we have EVER had, and we may never have a better HC/staff—they are that good. I have zero doubt that CK and his entire staff could easily transition as a whole to KSU and be outstanding, I just don’t want all of them to go, but I bet CK would like that scenario—other than it would be a huge blow to our program—and I don’t think/feel he wants to do that.


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I think the fact our current staff is not only talented but longly tenured makes them work as a team quite well. But check out 2005. Too bad they couldnt stay together. At the time I didn't think much of it but looking back I can see why that staff was gutted. We do a great job of paying guys now so you dont have that revolving door

Craig Bohl Head Coach
Casey Bradley Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinat
Patrick Perles Offensive Coordinator/Offensive Line
Willie Mack Garza - Defensive backs
Steve Laqua Running Backs Coach
Reggie Moore Wide Receivers Coach
Brent Vigen Quarterbacks Coach/Passing Game
Todd Wash Defensive Line Coac

[Bison 4 Life]

I think the fact our current staff is not only talented but longly tenured makes them work as a team quite well. But check out 2005. Too bad they couldnt stay together. At the time I didn't think much of it but looking back I can see why that staff was gutted. We do a great job of paying guys now so you dont have that revolving door

Craig Bohl Head Coach
Casey Bradley Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinat
Patrick Perles Offensive Coordinator/Offensive Line
Willie Mack Garza - Defensive backs
Steve Laqua Running Backs Coach
Reggie Moore Wide Receivers Coach
Brent Vigen Quarterbacks Coach/Passing Game
Todd Wash Defensive Line Coac

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[CAS4127]

I know what you were saying, I am just pulling your chain. But, I do think they need folks who know Texas and Oklahoma plus having some fbs guys will help with the fans.....that's why IMO Mess is gone (b12 experience)

Sucks that Mess is likely gone. His self-improvement at schemes and play-calling is excitingly evident.

That all said, I was acutely involved in the hiring/selection process when Hager was fired and Babich was selected, and when he was, I stated publicly (to the extent that was available at the time) that we/NDSU football were/was about to regress terribly. So, once-bitten, twice-shy if you will ...


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[HerdBot]

Sucks that Mess is likely gone. His self-improvement at schemes and play-calling is excitingly evident.

That all said, I was acutely involved in the hiring/selection process when Hager was fired and Babich was selected, and when he was, I stated publicly (to the extent that was available at the time) that we/NDSU football were/was about to regress terribly. So, once-bitten, twice-shy if you will ...


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Babich is the epitome of what happens when you change the offense and defense of something that works. One of the dumbest moves in the Athletic Departments history.

I wish they had listened to your advice

And yes, Mess is a rock star. 1 bad game in 2 years. Knock on wood

[noryan34]

Babich is the epitome of what happens when you change the offense and defense of something that works. One of the dumbest moves in the Athletic Departments history.

I wish they had listened to your advice

And yes, Mess is a rock star. 1 bad game in 2 years. Knock on wood


I was just reaching fandom in the early Babich years so I dont remember much but I always think and go holy hell we are spoiled fans when we think a coach that went 46-22 (.676 win percent) is one of the dumber moves for the football program

[scbison91]

I was just reaching fandom in the early Babich years so I dont remember much but I always think and go holy hell we are spoiled fans when we think a coach that went 46-22 (.676 win percent) is one of the dumber moves for the football program and maybe have National championship if didn't lose 2 QB's in playoff and have to play in kitty litter.... I was living down in TX and only saw on satellite games against UND so I don't know all the issues with Babich.... Just remembered when he left people were happy....

[Vet70]

I was just reaching fandom in the early Babich years so I dont remember much but I always think and go holy hell we are spoiled fans when we think a coach that went 46-22 (.676 win percent) is one of the dumber moves for the football program

He had tons of talent and had 0 NCC titles, made the playoffs twice and went 2-2 in 6 years. If he had stayed when we went D1 it would have been a disaster.

[noryan34]

I’m not convinced that they can’t and wouldn’t be able too. Also, I feel their schemes are closer to ours than you think. They just don’t have the players to do it the way we do.


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The may possible be able to change. But if NDSU goes the outside hire route I think they could reach quite a bit higher than two coaches with losing records in the FCS

[Bison 4 Life]

The may possible be able to change. But if NDSU goes the outside hire route I think they could reach quite a bit higher than two coaches with losing records in the FCS

Hard pass on Neilson but you can't put the record on Mallory.

Even the vaunted Bill Snyder went 1-10 in his first season at K State,

[Bisonator98]

I don't blame Babich nearly as much as someone else named Bob. :mad:

[Bisonator98]

I'll pass on Neilson, don't know anything about Mallory except he has no ties to our program except Bohl and Grant.

No reason to go outside candidate unless we can not keep one of the current staff. That would suck IMO.

[KNOW IT ALL]

I cant imagine going outside for a HC. There will be at least one Assistant with HC qualities more than happy taking a starting HC position of a lifetime. Especially after watching Klieman parlay a couple years into a 14 Million dollar contract. You go to KSU as an assistant and you may wallow in a losing program for a couple years. There is no guarantee that Klieman succeeds at KSU and assistants are guaranteed nothing. Building a Winner and Taking over a winner is a totally different monster entirely. Lose in year one with a guaranteed avg. roster team that he is walking into and a fourth of your fans will already question a FCS hire. CK's peace of mind comes with as a 6 year guarantee that allows him to retire when he's done if he likes. Leaving as an assistant has its risks over taking the job at NDSU @ 4-5 year $400K.

[THEsocalledfan]

I must say, the more and more I think about it, whoever gets this job needs to bring Grant Olson (and Amy) home. He has head coach written all over him, just not yet.

[MAKBison]

I must say, the more and more I think about it, whoever gets this job needs to bring Grant Olson (and Amy) home. He has head coach written all over him, just not yet.

I am calling that one a done deal

[Bison 4 Life]

I must say, the more and more I think about it, whoever gets this job needs to bring Grant Olson (and Amy) home. He has head coach written all over him, just not yet.

She can fuel up at Petro Serve USA. I'll bet she misses her drives going as far.