#1 overall seed is sealed, conference championship sealed

[MNLonghorn10]

How much do the starters play next week in a worthless game? All seniors will likely have 3 more home games. Losing Greg Menard or Jabril to an injury would suck.

I honestly wouldnt expect Easton to play much...does Trey Lance have his 4th game eligibility? I'd do that.

[Bison 4 Life]

How much do the starters play next week in a worthless game? All seniors will likely have 3 more home games. Losing Greg Menard or Jabril to an injury would suck.

I honestly wouldnt expect Easton to play much...does Trey Lance have his 4th game eligibility? I'd do that.

HH needs some better reps. I think we're fucked if Easton goes down.

[EC8CH]

How much do the starters play next week in a worthless game? All seniors will likely have 3 more home games. Losing Greg Menard or Jabril to an injury would suck.

I honestly wouldnt expect Easton to play much...does Trey Lance have his 4th game eligibility? I'd do that.

No Lance. Need his two games in the back pocket.

[MNLonghorn10]

ok so let Hotchkiss play the majority? I agree, if stick goes down, this team is properfucked

[Bison20]

ok so let Hotchkiss play the majority? I agree, if stick goes down, this team is properfucked

Not with our defense and o line. Try lance would probably play. We could still easily win a bunch of games. Not saying that we would still win the championship but we aren't fucked.

[MNLonghorn10]

Im overreacting yea...but the team isn't exactly built to win a shootout without Stick. Could HH or TL come in and keep a lead? Yea.

but going down a quick 2 scores vs an EWU without stick? yea no thanks.

[KSBisonFan]

Maybe play Hendrickson at QB?*


*Reference to the official MVFC game of the week broadcast crew.

[SoCalBison]

If Stick were to get hurt, then we'd see the defense step up and the running game kick into high gear. Just like the the games this season when Easton was having an off day. Still championship capable.

[Vet70]

Not with our defense and o line. Try lance would probably play. We could still easily win a bunch of games. Not saying that we would still win the championship but we aren't fucked.

At this point, if we don't win it all I would consider us screwed.

[Bisonwinagn]

This thread is stupid!!!!!!!

[HerdBot]

Its senior day, so the starters are going to play. Which QB would we play? I think HH is probably better prepared to be the starter right now but Tre Lance probably has the slight edge next year. Tough call because 1 side wants to see Tre get some more experience for next year but HH needs reps because he's the starter if Easton gets hurt. Both need reps

[EC8CH]

This thread is stupid!!!!!!!

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[ndsubison1]

Why is this thread stupid? Could think of a lot worse topics. Championship is #1.

[bison_by_blood]

I’ll use this thread to complain about something I’ve had an issue with back to the Bohl days and is still a thing. Why the fuck do we have starters in the game when we are up 30+ in the second half? I’m pretty sure our backups aren’t gonna let up. We are burning Red Shirts for Special teams guys, which I’m fine with, but maybe let those guys get some work with the Off/Def? Mostly saying we have a billion seniors that are gonna be gone after this year. Those guys shouldn’t be playing in the 2nd half of a blowout. So many reps that the younger kids, some of whom will be starting next year could use.

[bison_by_blood]

For example, much rather have Jasir Cox in to get some reps than having Jabril Cox in to what..beat up guys in garbage time?

[gizmo]

I’ll use this thread to complain about something I’ve had an issue with back to the Bohl days and is still a thing. Why the fuck do we have starters in the game when we are up 30+ in the second half? I’m pretty sure our backups aren’t gonna let up. We are burning Red Shirts for Special teams guys, which I’m fine with, but maybe let those guys get some work with the Off/Def? Mostly saying we have a billion seniors that are gonna be gone after this year. Those guys shouldn’t be playing in the 2nd half of a blowout. So many reps that the younger kids, some of whom will be starting next year could use.
As evidence to refute your claims, I'll point out that the Bison have won six of the last seven national championships and are heavily favored to win another this season. Yeah, I think they know what they are doing.

[WFBisonFan]

As evidence to refute your claims, I'll point out that the Bison have won six of the last seven national championships and are heavily favored to win another this season. Yeah, I think they know what they are doing.


I agree that they know what they're doing, but wouldn't you be just a wee bit upset if Stick or Cox blew an ACL up 30 late in the 3rd, early 4th? I know I would be. Not arguing that our staff doesn't know what they're doing because they obviously are the best, but Stick took a couple of shots yesterday late that made me think of this exact thing.

[EC8CH]

I'd bet the starters want to play. They only get so many snaps in their career. Seems like the deal is they get 3 quarters in blowouts.

[Vet70]

The coaches can't win. Posters criticize for leaving players in too long, other posters criticize Klieman for taking his foot off the gas.

[IndyBison]

Worked a game yesterday with the #2 team in NAIA hosting an 0-10 team with a 30 game losing streak. It was 35-7 in the last minute of the first half and Marian scored a TD on a short pass to their #1 receiver. It looked like a fairly simple play, but he went to the ground shortly after he got up. He had to be carried off the field with no weight on his foot. One of his teammates told me he heard a pop in his foot. They were already playing without their #1 running back. Not sure if he was injured or being held out. If they lost both the playoffs could be tough in the latter rounds.

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[tjbison]

They have to play the 1s, can't sit that long between games, they will play the first half at least if not 3 qtrs like yesterday

[2011BisonAlumni]

I'd bet the starters want to play. They only get so many snaps in their career. Seems like the deal is they get 3 quarters in blowouts.

Disagree. They could tear their ACL in practice as easily as in a game.

The starters need to be conditioned to play 4 quarters.

[EC8CH]

Disagree. They could tear their ACL in practice as easily as in a game.

The starters need to be conditioned to play 4 quarters.

I'm confused. I'm saying starters want to and should play. Even in a blowout they are going to get a minimum of 3 quarters in

[2011BisonAlumni]

I'm confused. I'm saying starters want to and should play. Even in a blowout they are going to get a minimum of 3 quarters in

Replied to wrong poster sorry.

I completely agree with you on this.

Also, why do we value Easton Stick’s health over Trey Lance or Bruce Anderson over Seth Wilson? Granted, NDSU is in the middle of a championship run, but I’d sure hate to see a potential starter for next year get hurt this late in the game.

[MNLonghorn10]

Replied to wrong poster sorry.

I completely agree with you on this.

Also, why do we value Easton Stick’s health over Trey Lance or Bruce Anderson over Seth Wilson? Granted, NDSU is in the middle of a championship run, but I’d sure hate to see a potential starter for next year get hurt this late in the game.

Great question! I have no idea why we would value Eastons value over Bruces or Seths or Treys. No idea at all.

[MNLonghorn10]

They have to play the 1s, can't sit that long between games, they will play the first half at least if not 3 qtrs like yesterday

Obviously the starters are gonna play, but Id bet that 3rd qtr leash is a lot shorter this week than priors......when nothing was sealed up.

[tjbison]

Obviously the starters are gonna play, but Id bet that 3rd qtr leash is a lot shorter this week than priors......when nothing was sealed up.

agree, but CK made a statement in a presser that the starters will play 3 qtrs, see if he holds to that, guess it depends if its a game or not (obviously)

[2011BisonAlumni]

Great question! I have no idea why we would value Eastons value over Bruces or Seths or Treys. No idea at all.

I would never “rather” see one kid get hurt over another. Don’t give a fuck if he never plays or is the star.

[MNLonghorn10]

I would never “rather” see one kid get hurt over another. Don’t give a fuck if he never plays or is the star.No shit. Thats not what any of us are implying.

"Hey the future says easton is going to shred his knee on this play so...holden get out there!"


The fuck kind of logic is that?

[DakotaOkie]

From a different perspective, the 2's and 3's in the running back corp were getting game time with the first string QB. Wilson and Colfield had the bulk of the rushing yards. Shepherd had a handful of catches with the balance scattered among TE's and backs. I think it was a game opportunity to fine tune the entire offensive squad. Messingham was not placing Stick into many perilous running situations or so it seemed.

[Gully]

I'd like Easton to get the 30 or so rushing yards he needs to break the MVFC career rushing by a QB record.

[Mr Meaty]

From a different perspective, the 2's and 3's in the running back corp were getting game time with the first string QB. Wilson and Colfield had the bulk of the rushing yards. Shepherd had a handful of catches with the balance scattered among TE's and backs. I think it was a game opportunity to fine tune the entire offensive squad. Messingham was not placing Stick into many perilous running situations or so it seemed.

Agreed, great game call yesterday. They stacked the box and Stick made them play with solid passes and catches by TE and WR. Second we just beat them into submission with Colfield and Wilson.

[Elvis was a Bison]

From a different perspective, the 2's and 3's in the running back corp were getting game time with the first string QB. Wilson and Colfield had the bulk of the rushing yards. Shepherd had a handful of catches with the balance scattered among TE's and backs. I think it was a game opportunity to fine tune the entire offensive squad. Messingham was not placing Stick into many perilous running situations or so it seemed.

Stick does that to himself. Go back and watch him go after the incompletion to Shep that some thought may be a fumble!!

[BisonNeil]

From a different perspective, the 2's and 3's in the running back corp were getting game time with the first string QB. Wilson and Colfield had the bulk of the rushing yards. Shepherd had a handful of catches with the balance scattered among TE's and backs. I think it was a game opportunity to fine tune the entire offensive squad. Messingham was not placing Stick into many perilous running situations or so it seemed.

Exactly! I have talked to coaches about this very thing, why when you are up by 30+ points in the third quarter don't you put in the backups? First thing was game conditioning, not the same as practice conditioning, so starters need it. Second was backups need to play with starters, they learn more than if the entire D or O is replaced and third stringers are only playing with third stringers.

[Christopher Moen]

[/B]Stick does that to himself. Go back and watch him go after the incompletion to Shep that some thought may be a fumble!!

He’s the anti-Cam Newton.


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[scottietohottie]

Stick scores at least a TD on bama.

[Professor Chaos]

I'd like Easton to get the 30 or so rushing yards he needs to break the MVFC career rushing by a QB record.
Hasn't he done that already?

[17>1]

I think I'll trust the coach's judgemet on when they need to start taking starters out. Did anyone hear Coach K after the YSU game actually say how pleased he was that the Bison got to play a 4 quarter game for once? Maybe the starters are working on plays later in the game that they haven't executed real well in practice and they want to get better at them during a game. Maybe they're running plays at that point that they may need to turn to late in a close game down the road and they're successful because they did it in a game and got some film on it and improved on it. Win the day, win the game, win the play. Get better, and if playing through the 3rd quarter allows them to get better then that's all that matters. Sure, I would hate to see anyone get hurt late in a game, but these starters and seniors deserve to be in there as long as coach allows. It's been so fun watching Easton Stick play at NDSU these last 5 years, I want to see him out on every play and every snap that he has an opportuntiy to be out there for.

[Vet70]

Hasn't he done that already?

NDSU career records have Stick at 2,245 and MVFC records have DeAndre Smith at 2,276.

[tony]

Hasn't he done that already?

Only got 8 net yards rushing against da Bears - looks like 31 yards to go. He is also 2 rushing TDs from getting the MVFC record for most rushing TDs (he's at 34, the record is 36.) For a little perspective, the NDSU record for rushing TDs by a QB is 60+ (and Bentrim played a 10-game schedule and they didn't count postseason games back then) - NDSU's offense is a tish more balanced nowadays.

[Professor Chaos]

NDSU career records have Stick at 2,245 and MVFC records have DeAndre Smith at 2,276.
Ah, I see where I goofed up. I thought his 1895 rushing yards referenced in this article ("https://www.inforum.com/sports/football/4498963-kolpack-field-bison-quarterback-stick-all-american-good-guy) was where he was at to start the year but that included the 55 yards he had against Cal Poly and North Alabama.

[stevdock]

I realize it would stink for someone to get hurt in a game where the #1 seed is clinched and the conference is wrapped. But what is also wrapped is the first round bye so if the starters don't play this weekend, then they would have almost a month in between games. The way this season is going our luck would be that James Madison would be put in our pod to play in our first game. Also at this point I get the most important thing for the team is now to do whatever it takes to win the championship. But this team has also put themselves in a potential different category of championship teams and to finish that then the team needs to win this weekend.

[Vet70]

I realize it would stink for someone to get hurt in a game where the #1 seed is clinched and the conference is wrapped. But what is also wrapped is the first round bye so if the starters don't play this weekend, then they would have almost a month in between games. The way this season is going our luck would be that James Madison would be put in our pod to play in our first game. Also at this point I get the most important thing for the team is now to do whatever it takes to win the championship. But this team has also put themselves in a potential different category of championship teams and to finish that then the team needs to win this weekend.

Right now I am more concerned about SDSU than JMU.

[TAILG8R]

I tend to agree but the thing I keep coming back to is MOST postseason games with the bunnies have been decidedly one sided in favor of the Bison.
Right now I am more concerned about SDSU than JMU.

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[BisonNeil]

I tend to agree but the thing I keep coming back to is MOST postseason games with the bunnies have been decidedly one sided in favor of the Bison.

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True, but the 27-24 second round game in 2014 was a nail biter and took a great pass by Wentz and even a greater catch to get the win.

[bajadanny]

The bunnies suck

Their coach is a dick

[stevdock]

Right now I am more concerned about SDSU than JMU.

I was trying to show the last thing we need to be is rusty coming into a first round game because we might be scared of an injury. JMU in the first game is more likely than playing SDSU at all in my opinion.

[wagsabison]

The bunnies suck

Their coach is a dick

This is true.


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[GSUsTALON]

And thats the way it should be.